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No Dhimmi User ID: 14630 United States 12/23/2011 06:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As long it is food grade it is fine for humans and pets. I use this site for my DE. [link to www.earthworksde.com] ALL relevant scriptures that include a time factor prove no pre-trib rapture. Over 50 verses! Kindle Edition only 99 CENTS! Biblical Eschatological “Time-Stamps” Relevant to the Last Day/Days (Amazon) |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 7595556 United States 12/24/2011 03:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank you for your reply. I have read the info on that site and also on Wolf Creek Ranch and Earth Works health and also some blogs and articles. I would really like to see some stories of people who have used it on their cats with no negative results. I am really worried about trying it because one person (on a blog or forum) said their cat almost died from using it. I just would like some reassurance from others that have used it and had nothing bad happen, and then I would feel better about trying it. Sorry if anyone thinks I am being a big worry wart! Thank you again to any who reply. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6694008 United States 12/24/2011 04:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have been going back and forth on the DE and if it is safe to use. I have researched it on the web, and finally came to the conclusion that it couldnt hurt ... and it very well may help. So what the heck. I would try it. I ordered some and just got it yesterday. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7595556 Now I also want to give it to my cats. But I thought I would look up some more sites just to be sure and then saw something that said DON'T give it to your cats it can be very abrasive to their insides and hurt them. I just would like anyone who has used it to say their experience with it and if it hasnt hurt their pets at all, then I would feel better about trying it. (By the way, I have read some forums, but never posted on any before so I dont really know what I am doing if I post something the wrong way.) I will check back later. Thank you to any who reply. I give it to my dog about once a week. I ingest a little every day. It is very good for everyone. Don't know about cats though. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6694008 United States 12/24/2011 04:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As long it is food grade it is fine for humans and pets. I use this site for my DE. Quoting: No Dhimmi [link to www.earthworksde.com] That's where I got mine. Great stuff! |
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MEASURE IT User ID: 7592463 United States 12/24/2011 04:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes it is safe, I have used it and it helps expel any parasites and is good for their coats too :-) The ONLY thing you have to watch out for is giving too much, which can constipate them , and also be hard on their urinary system by over stimulating them to pee too much. Just keep an eye on their litter box behaviors, if they are having regular defecations and not running to pee every half hour, you should be fine ! :-) . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16501403 United States 05/22/2012 10:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If I were you, I wouldn't give it to any of my pets. No matter what is said by one or thousands. Why take that chance. It kills bugs from the inside out, why would anyone take a chance on doing that. It doesn't make sense to put any pet at risk. I would use it on the bugs, but put it in places that the pets can't get to. I love my pets way to much to take that chance. I would feel sooooooooooooo bad if something happend to my pets because of me. I have earwig issues so I will use it but not where my animals lay,run, or play. My understanding is that DE attacks then when they eat it , it does someting to there inside Good luck to your pet |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 19738203 Canada 07/14/2012 08:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have been going back and forth on the DE and if it is safe to use. I have researched it on the web, and finally came to the conclusion that it couldnt hurt ... and it very well may help. So what the heck. I would try it. I ordered some and just got it yesterday. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7595556 Now I also want to give it to my cats. But I thought I would look up some more sites just to be sure and then saw something that said DON'T give it to your cats it can be very abrasive to their insides and hurt them. I just would like anyone who has used it to say their experience with it and if it hasnt hurt their pets at all, then I would feel better about trying it. (By the way, I have read some forums, but never posted on any before so I dont really know what I am doing if I post something the wrong way.) I will check back later. Thank you to any who reply. Yes Yes Yes. Have a kennel and raise German Shepherds. Have been using it for years. It worms them. Sprinle in their beds for bugs and you can put it directly on their coats for bugs and mites and all that stuff. JUST DON"T GET IN EYES. RUB INTO THER BEDS WELL. Its really good for them and you too. You can find the formula's all over the web. I put it in their food and drinking water. 1 tsp for a big dog daily. Its full of great minerals too. |
warriorsbond User ID: 18677608 United States 07/14/2012 08:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank you for your reply. I have read the info on that site and also on Wolf Creek Ranch and Earth Works health and also some blogs and articles. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7595556 I would really like to see some stories of people who have used it on their cats with no negative results. I am really worried about trying it because one person (on a blog or forum) said their cat almost died from using it. I just would like some reassurance from others that have used it and had nothing bad happen, and then I would feel better about trying it. Sorry if anyone thinks I am being a big worry wart! Thank you again to any who reply. I use it on my cat daily. I use a partial teaspoon. She is only 8 pounds. no negative side effects. I use purina one beyond cat food. it has no corn in it which was making her sick all the time. so to be safe I gave her the diatomaceous earth ordered from above link. I bought the 2.5 jug about 8 months ago. I been giving it to her a month now. No puking and in fact she behaves better. Wants more attention and seems more relaxed. not sure that sounds right but its true. After the first day she seemed more at ease. I have used it for two months now and no ill effects in fact my nails are stronger. I am happy for that. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 18792244 South Africa 07/14/2012 09:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There's quite a following in my country of folk using DE on their cats, dogs, horses & farmyard animals. In fact, I sell the stuff and as long as it's Food Grade it is not only safe, but enlivens your animals in numerous ways. Non Food Grade is the stuff used to clean pools, etc. Toxic for people & pets. I have all my cats on Food Grade DE- they get a heaped tspn each day, mixed in with their food. I always thought my 8 yr old tabby was just small & skinny, although strong. Within 6 weeks of consuming DE, I noticed his body weight had increased by a third & he'd actually grown a couple of centimetres. I dismissed it as my imagination at the time as it was winter, but when the winter coat shedding happened and he was still comparatively huge, I realised how potent the DE effects were. All his life he must have been eaten alive by parasites within, stopping his natural growth. Btw, none have needed a vet since early last year, when I started them on DE. It has 15 trace minerals, its sponge like action sucks up all heavy metals and there are no negative side effects whatsoever. Arthritic dogs/cats (and people) have made amazing recoveries through it due to the high silica content. Nor can you/cats overdose on it...it is that harmless. Wolfcreek is one of the places I started my research on DE - excellent source. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 28825138 Canada 12/01/2012 01:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If I were you, I wouldn't give it to any of my pets. No matter what is said by one or thousands. Why take that chance. It kills bugs from the inside out, why would anyone take a chance on doing that. It doesn't make sense to put any pet at risk. I would use it on the bugs, but put it in places that the pets can't get to. I love my pets way to much to take that chance. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16501403 I would feel sooooooooooooo bad if something happend to my pets because of me. I have earwig issues so I will use it but not where my animals lay,run, or play. My understanding is that DE attacks then when they eat it , it does someting to there inside Good luck to your pet It doesn't kill insects from the inside out, it gets in between the joints of their exoskeleton and cuts them up on a microscopic level. Insects don't eat it and aren't even attracted to it in any way, it affects them by external contact only so they have to walk through it/be dusted with it. It works on such a microscopic level that it doesn't affect larger animals, externally OR internally. The only thing you have to be careful about is inhaling the dust as it can irritate the lungs(but so would flour if you inhaled some) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 29044775 United States 12/04/2012 01:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have used DE on both my dog and my cats for the past two years. I drink it, as well. Yes, it does rid them of parasites. I bought mine from Wolf Creek Ranch and bought two large bags of it. I even treated the yard. My cats are two years old. I started them on when they were 8 weeks old. I did have a neutered male cat last month that had a blockage but, if you do your research, many neutered male cats get blockages and the majority of them are NOT on DE. The vet seems to think it was dry cat food or some sort of stress that causes this and it tends to run in neutered males. It makes me wonder if there was a problem with the surgery to begin with or if they were neutered too young. I am currently transitioning over to a raw food diet with supplements because I do believe the pet foods are not good at all for them. They are full of grain, mold, preservatives, etc. There are places online to buy organic ground rabbit and I am grinding chicken thighs partially cooked to kill any bacteria, but not thoroughly cooked so they get the nutrients. DE does work and my male WAS NOT blocked due to DE. His brother is a neutered male and he has never had a blockage. Check out how many neutered males get blockages, it is horrible. My friend's neutered male cat had a blockage and she was not using DE. Please see the following: The cause of struvite crystals in cats is dry commercial pet foods. Due to the lack of moisture in the diet, the urine becomes too concentrated, and due to the use of plant-based ingredients in dry kibble, the urine becomes too alkaline. An alkaline environment in very concentrated urine predisposes struvite formation. Struvite crystals do not tend to appear in a more acidic environment and where the urine is more dilute. The cat is not a natural water drinker, as it has evolved over millions of years, in a very arid part of the planet, and derived most of its moisture from its prey. Consequently, the domestic cat which is fed a diet of dry foods is chronically dehydrated. The best line of defense is prevention. When the cat consumes a balanced, natural diet of raw meat, the urine can maintain a more natural pH. The water content of the food (typically 75 – 80% moisture) creates a more dilute urine, and struvite formation, does not occur. As I said, I totally feel 100% comfortable giving them Diatomaceous Earth Food Grade. BUT, I do not overdo it because I just feel I would rather give them just under the amount that over the amount. That is just me. When my cats went to the vet, they had no parasites. They have maintained that. So, definitely used the DE and definitely educate yourself on raw food diets for them. Sorry for the lengthy post but, I needed to clarify my neutered male's blockage was not due to DE and I am now introducing all of my cats to a raw meat diet of rabbit, turkey and poultry with fish oil and taurine supplements. The meat is ground with the bone in it for calcium. Great website for this is: [link to www.catinfo.org] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36347308 United States 03/17/2013 04:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If I were you, I wouldn't give it to any of my pets. No matter what is said by one or thousands. Why take that chance. It kills bugs from the inside out, why would anyone take a chance on doing that. It doesn't make sense to put any pet at risk. I would use it on the bugs, but put it in places that the pets can't get to. I love my pets way to much to take that chance. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16501403 I would feel sooooooooooooo bad if something happend to my pets because of me. I have earwig issues so I will use it but not where my animals lay,run, or play. My understanding is that DE attacks then when they eat it , it does someting to there inside Good luck to your pet DE does not kill bugs from the inside out. It scratches their exoskeleton and they become dehydrated and die. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 590644 United States 03/17/2013 05:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The earlier thread has lots of information; now up to 18 pages: Thread: Has anyone tried Diatomaceous Earth? Thread: Has anyone tried Diatomaceous Earth? (Page 18) |
Beachy Keen User ID: 1914333 United States 06/03/2013 03:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have been reading for days and days, talking everyone about DE. What I have found in all of that research is that if it is FOOD GRADE DE and not the stuff you use in a swimming pool (first of all probably purchased in two different places) it is safe for humans and animals. I have had animals, large and small, my entire life. I take in rescue animals as well and I have never, in 48 years, had a flea problem until two weeks ago. We moved to a section of southern CA which seems to be the flea capital of the planet. My three cats are indoor only and always have been. I two large dogs that hate being indoors so they are outside more of the time (except on bath day once a week) but the common denominator is my small Yorkie. He goes out to play or potty and then comes in and he blessed my cats and my home with fleas. Before we knew what was happening (never having had them) the three cats were infested, the dog was infested and I assume the house by now as well. I allowed our vet to give us a topical spot on treatment for the cats because bathing them is like trying to put a lion into a paper bag. Within two hours of using the spot on chemical my oldest cat was foaming at the mouth, drooling and yowling like she was dying. I instantly threw her in the sink and washed her face and mouth out (assuming she somehow itched the application spot and licked her paws) and held her for the next two hours while on the phone with the vet. She lived and recovered just fine but my point is that is amazes me the amount of people that are willing to put chemicals on their animals that can KILL THEM and be okay with that but are totally against using a product that is safe enough to YOU to eat! If it does not work then fine, move on but using chemicals as your first advance of attack seems crazy and reckless to me if there are other options. They may be a little slower but far less risky. As for people focusing on what will happen if you inhale it....go inhale some corn meal or flour or even baby powder and let me know how you feel after that. Use common sense people, inhaling any powder into your lungs is never a good thing, I don't care what it is. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 43497552 United States 07/19/2013 10:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The information posted about raw diets and struvite crystal formation is incorrect and your cat's neuter has absolutely nothing to do with crystal formation. Indoor male neutered cats do have a higher incidence of crystal formation and urinary blockage, but it has nothing to do with dry vs. canned food. Canned cat food is higher in moisture and protein, vs. dry cat food that's loaded with carbs, so in general canned diets are more favorable. Raw diets are a complete fad, and typically cause more harm than good. Licensed veterinarians absolutely do not recommend feeding raw diets to dogs or cats. And hopefully anybody feeding his or her cat a raw diet knows that cats need taurine in their diets, and if its not supplemented serious heart disease will ensue. As far as DM earth, please call Animal Poison Control and ask an expert. Your cat's health is worth it. Good luck. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 43579361 United States 07/19/2013 10:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what CAN hurt your pets and you - is to inhale the DE particles as they float into the air. Don't put dry DE on pet's coats - it will hurt their lungs. Wetting it with water until soupy, and feeding it to them via syringe is good. For fleas, bathe them in Dawn dish washing hand detergent. Don't use dry DE for fleas because of the lung problem. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 43579361 United States 07/19/2013 11:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LOL To humans and pets, DE is like talcum powder. The vet was just parroting what he had been told and was wrong. To parasites, DE is like glass, and dispels them. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 43579361 United States 07/19/2013 11:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah a vet once told me that DE was bad to inject orally because it would scratch the surface of the intestines. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43579361 LOL To humans and pets, DE is like talcum powder. The vet was just parroting what he had been told and was wrong. To parasites, DE is like glass, and dispels them. typo! should be injest |
sarauc User ID: 4830832 United States 07/31/2013 09:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If I were you, I wouldn't give it to any of my pets. No matter what is said by one or thousands. Why take that chance. It kills bugs from the inside out, why would anyone take a chance on doing that. It doesn't make sense to put any pet at risk. I would use it on the bugs, but put it in places that the pets can't get to. I love my pets way to much to take that chance. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16501403 I would feel sooooooooooooo bad if something happend to my pets because of me. I have earwig issues so I will use it but not where my animals lay,run, or play. My understanding is that DE attacks then when they eat it , it does someting to there inside Good luck to your pet this statement makes no sense because the bugs dont eat the DE, it physically cuts their exoskeleton, causing them to dry out inside and die. It is non-toxic in food grade form. it is made out of dried up phytoplanktons. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45960052 United States 08/29/2013 09:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If I were you, I wouldn't give it to any of my pets. No matter what is said by one or thousands. Why take that chance. It kills bugs from the inside out, why would anyone take a chance on doing that. It doesn't make sense to put any pet at risk. I would use it on the bugs, but put it in places that the pets can't get to. I love my pets way to much to take that chance. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16501403 I would feel sooooooooooooo bad if something happend to my pets because of me. I have earwig issues so I will use it but not where my animals lay,run, or play. My understanding is that DE attacks then when they eat it , it does someting to there inside Good luck to your pet And yet I'll bet you will happily put a liquid poison from your vet onto your pet. One that kills bugs by putting poison into the bloodstream of your pet, so that the bugs will ingest the poison when they bite your pet. DE is perfectly safe internally and externally. I've used it regularly on dogs, cats, equines and myself for many years without issue. Including inhaling plenty of it. Of course you don't want to overdue the inhalation of a powder of any kind. Diatomaceous earth is also very drying, so will dry out your skin from handling it. Nothing earth shattering though! |
Galaxy User ID: 46060130 United States 08/31/2013 07:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The information posted about raw diets and struvite crystal formation is incorrect and your cat's neuter has absolutely nothing to do with crystal formation. Indoor male neutered cats do have a higher incidence of crystal formation and urinary blockage, but it has nothing to do with dry vs. canned food. Canned cat food is higher in moisture and protein, vs. dry cat food that's loaded with carbs, so in general canned diets are more favorable. Raw diets are a complete fad, and typically cause more harm than good. Licensed veterinarians absolutely do not recommend feeding raw diets to dogs or cats. And hopefully anybody feeding his or her cat a raw diet knows that cats need taurine in their diets, and if its not supplemented serious heart disease will ensue. As far as DM earth, please call Animal Poison Control and ask an expert. Your cat's health is worth it. Good luck. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43497552 Dry vs. canned food IS a factor in urinary blockage and crystal formation. Reduced or insufficient fluid intake is a contributing factor in many urinary and bladder conditions, for both people and pets. "The solution to pollution is dilution" and minerals as well as bacteria are condensed and not moved out of the body as quickly when moisture levels are low. In addition, this concentration often leads to changes in pH which are favorable to crystal formation. Cats are not natural water drinkers as in nature they get the majority of their fluids from the bodies of their prey. When they are fed a dry kibble diet, their daily water intake is far below that of a cat fed a canned or raw diet. Other factors can influence crystal formation, including food content, but reduced moisuture intake is the biggest risk factor. Raw diets are far from "a complete fad" and are ideal nutrition for pets when the owner ensures the recipes they feed are balanced. It is absolutely not true that "licensed veterinarians absolutely do not recommend feeding raw diets to dogs or cats" and in fact, many do and will specifically refer you to veterinary nutritionists for custom formulated recipes, especially if your animal has a special need or disease. Most vets know next to nothing about nutrition themselves as it is not something covered in depth in the course of regular veterinary school. The cat's organs and tissues benefit from higher quality protein and the absence of unnecessary and inflammatory grains. Taurine need not always be supplemented if additional organs and hearts are included in the recipe, but you're right, it is essential cats receive it in their diets. The calcium:phosphorous ratio is also of the utmost importance. Raw feeding is not by any means hard, and it is cheaper to feed raw, you just have to put in a little prep work or use a professionally formulated recipe. As many others have said, DE is commonly used for parasites both internally and externally. Avoid letting your pet breathe in the dust and get food grade DE. |
jude User ID: 22705644 Spain 09/01/2013 01:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | why does that person think that a raw diet is bad for cats, what on earth does he think they eat in the wild, they don't have cookers you know, the perfect diet for a cat is 5 mice a day, it has all the nutrients they need, that is how they evolved, eating small rodents. Of course the vet will tell you not to do it, he wants to sell you his pet food. Jude |