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Best SHTF Weapon???

 
GaryMule
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These are my choice for shtf or survival firearms. Missing is a 22 pistol or revolver, I do have a heritage arms 22lr. In my opinion the best weapon you have is the one you have practiced and trained with. I do not fear the guy that collects guns as a hobby and only shoots 3 or 4 rounds a year. I fear the guy with the mosin, or the 22 how shoots every week and knows the gun. He knows which ammo it will take and where it will hit everytime!

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Your best weapon is your brain.
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and plenty of toilet paper,
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Your best weapon is your brain.
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That is 100% correct, it is also your best safety.
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These are my choice for shtf or survival firearms. Missing is a 22 pistol or revolver, I do have a heritage arms 22lr. In my opinion the best weapon you have is the one you have practiced and trained with. I do not fear the guy that collects guns as a hobby and only shoots 3 or 4 rounds a year. I fear the guy with the mosin, or the 22 how shoots every week and knows the gun. He knows which ammo it will take and where it will hit everytime!


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I bought 2 Marlin Model 60 .22 Long Rifles 2 weeks ago. I also have 16,000 rounds. I have 6 combat tours, I have seen shtf in person. ;-)


Also 4 -- 12 gauges

12gauge

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Re: Best SHTF Weapon???
Guns are for PUSSIES who dont know how to FIGHT.

Best weapon..is one that NEVER runs out of ammo...

A BRUTAL KATANA!

...with shock mod...

Cant go wrong.
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Your best weapon is your brain.
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This.

A knife would be handy too.

If you choose guns then an AK47, and a reliable handgun.
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I don't like the idea of lacquering up wooden skeleton firearms, as it reflects light and would give you away.
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Guns are for PUSSIES who dont know how to FIGHT.

Best weapon..is one that NEVER runs out of ammo...

A BRUTAL KATANA!

...with shock mod...

Cant go wrong.
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Never bring a knife to a Gun fight.
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A mop and toilet paper
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He has an awesome channel, he is currently living for 30 days in a yurt!
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Re: Best SHTF Weapon???
It really depends on what you want to do with it.

Hunting? .223 or .308. Maybe 30-30.

Fighting other peoples? .223 or .308.

Fighting foreign armies? .308.

Personal close-in protection? .45acp or .357 if you don't care about what's behind your target.

Killing birds for food? 12 guage with birdshot...


I mean, unless you specify, this is kind of pointless.
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These are my choice for shtf or survival firearms. Missing is a 22 pistol or revolver, I do have a heritage arms 22lr. In my opinion the best weapon you have is the one you have practiced and trained with. I do not fear the guy that collects guns as a hobby and only shoots 3 or 4 rounds a year. I fear the guy with the mosin, or the 22 how shoots every week and knows the gun. He knows which ammo it will take and where it will hit everytime!


 Quoting: GaryMule


I bought 2 Marlin Model 60 .22 Long Rifles 2 weeks ago. I also have 16,000 rounds. I have 6 combat tours, I have seen shtf in person. ;-)


Also 4 -- 12 gauges

12gauge
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Thanks for your service, I cannot begin to imagine the things you have gone through.
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Re: Best SHTF Weapon???
Guns are for PUSSIES who dont know how to FIGHT.

Best weapon..is one that NEVER runs out of ammo...

A BRUTAL KATANA!

...with shock mod...

Cant go wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7629793


I have to admit that I would not want to mess with anyone with any MMA or hand to hand training.
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I don't like the idea of lacquering up wooden skeleton firearms, as it reflects light and would give you away.
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Very true. I realized this as it dried, this was my first ever wood type project, I have another Mosin that is bare bones.
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Re: Best SHTF Weapon???
It really depends on what you want to do with it.

Hunting? .223 or .308. Maybe 30-30.

Fighting other peoples? .223 or .308.

Fighting foreign armies? .308.

Personal close-in protection? .45acp or .357 if you don't care about what's behind your target.

Killing birds for food? 12 guage with birdshot...


I mean, unless you specify, this is kind of pointless.
 Quoting: Emmeric


Well you are right, it is like I tell my wife when she complains, you have different weapons for different things, just like her shoes. After that she is quiet for a while, well more like a day or so...
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Re: Best SHTF Weapon???
Guns are for PUSSIES who dont know how to FIGHT.

Best weapon..is one that NEVER runs out of ammo...

A BRUTAL KATANA!

...with shock mod...

Cant go wrong.
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Never bring a knife to a Gun fight.
 Quoting: ***DRAGOON***


I wouldnt...

I wait it out while all the idiots waste all their ammo killing eachother off..

THEN id be the only one with a serious weapon.

That and my very light and totally silent longbow...

...for those...stealth encounters.
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These are my choice for shtf or survival firearms. Missing is a 22 pistol or revolver, I do have a heritage arms 22lr. In my opinion the best weapon you have is the one you have practiced and trained with. I do not fear the guy that collects guns as a hobby and only shoots 3 or 4 rounds a year. I fear the guy with the mosin, or the 22 how shoots every week and knows the gun. He knows which ammo it will take and where it will hit everytime!


 Quoting: GaryMule


I bought 2 Marlin Model 60 .22 Long Rifles 2 weeks ago. I also have 16,000 rounds. I have 6 combat tours, I have seen shtf in person. ;-)


Also 4 -- 12 gauges

12gauge
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Thanks for your service, I cannot begin to imagine the things you have gone through.
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Thanks ;-)
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Re: Best SHTF Weapon???
Guns are for PUSSIES who dont know how to FIGHT.

Best weapon..is one that NEVER runs out of ammo...

A BRUTAL KATANA!

...with shock mod...

Cant go wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7629793


Never bring a knife to a Gun fight.
 Quoting: ***DRAGOON***


I wouldnt...

I wait it out while all the idiots waste all their ammo killing eachother off..

THEN id be the only one with a serious weapon.

That and my very light and totally silent longbow...

...for those...stealth encounters.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7629793


Let us know how that works out for you, I do not intend on shooting anyone. I am just going to wait any shtf event that might happen out.
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Re: Best SHTF Weapon???
Guns are for PUSSIES who dont know how to FIGHT.

Best weapon..is one that NEVER runs out of ammo...

A BRUTAL KATANA!

...with shock mod...

Cant go wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7629793


Never bring a knife to a Gun fight.
 Quoting: ***DRAGOON***


I wouldnt...

I wait it out while all the idiots waste all their ammo killing eachother off..

THEN id be the only one with a serious weapon.

That and my very light and totally silent longbow...

...for those...stealth encounters.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7629793

You might be waiting a long while, many in the know are doing what I am doing.
I most likely with get up to 50,000 rounds.


The shtf could last a life-time, I want to make sure I have rounds when I'm 90
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The best weapon is no fear of death. Accepting the fact that everyone dies and not fearing your own death will make the outcome of any battle irrelevant.

Do not take that to mean that I cannot or would not hold my own in any conflict, with any weapon or none, cause I can and have, but in the end, even that does not matter.

Dust in the wind...
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Guns are for PUSSIES who dont know how to FIGHT.

Best weapon..is one that NEVER runs out of ammo...

A BRUTAL KATANA!

...with shock mod...

Cant go wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7629793


Never bring a knife to a Gun fight.
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I also keep two 22 cal air rifles that shoot at about 900 FPS, I never want to waist ammo on small game.
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Re: Best SHTF Weapon???
a gun
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Mossberg pump

next question

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Guns are for PUSSIES who dont know how to FIGHT.

Best weapon..is one that NEVER runs out of ammo...

A BRUTAL KATANA!

...with shock mod...

Cant go wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7629793


I know, I know, you poor bastard. And I mean that with the greatest of respect. You live in a country that punked you for your guns. So, well, you have to adjust your logic to the next level down and this is what you have come up with. A Katana.

Good luck my friend.........
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For what it's worth, yes of course the best weapon is your brain, that is, if it's worth anything.

Next?

12g Shotgun, hands down. If a person could only have one thing period. The 12g has so many different types of shells, it's amazing.

Peace...........
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Re: Best SHTF Weapon???
Learn how to make Bows & Arrows.

That way you'll always have access to a long range weapon.
Guns can run out of ammo.
But so long as you have wood , you 'll always have arrows.

Also in a SHTF situation, if you're really good at making Bows & Arrows, you'll never be short of a valuable item for trade.
How many chicken, and vegetables for a good quality Bow and five arrows??

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I also keep two 22 cal air rifles that shoot at about 900 FPS, I never want to waist ammo on small game.
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sir, you may want to consider a cattle prod also
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Not so much the weapon. More dependent upon The AMMUNITION>


I handload match ammunition for .223. 75 or 77gr bthp match bullets. The bullets are tough and hit hard. At 500yds they deliver more energy than a .357mag of 125gr started at 1400fps can deliver at 25yds. Takes a well made rifle to shoot with the accuracy and precision this ammo is suited for: out to 600+ yards.

The AR-15 is a fine fighting rifle. I am not much on M4 carbines. Had LMT and Noveske 14.5" barreled uppers and sold them. 20" barrel with 1:7 twist is great for these heavy and longish .224 bullets.

.45acp with 230gr or 200gr Flat Point jacketed from a 5" barreled pistol is another dependable recipe. Even standard, generic 230gr roundnose or ball ammo works great. Bullet weight and diameter does the trick for handguns. AR-15 can easily shoot sub .5moa at all distances it is viable, IF (big if) IF you can shoot...


Shotgun or .22LR is not a defensive weapon. Shotgun is very specialized, ammo is bulky and heavy, very costly and has limited range. .22LR is good for shooting pests in your garden or henhouse, but not good for much else. A .22lr Conversion Unit for a 1911 .45acp is good for acclimating a new shooter to slide movement and accurate shooting before they learn the .45acp.

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