Asteroid/Meteorit seen over Germany couple hours ago-- It was the re-entry of the upper stage of a Soyuz rocket?!

I dont believe anything


And there was more then one soyus start...this tank was from the latest one which carry the new astronauts and docks at the ISS on dec 23

for the 1st poster of this subject?

I observed the object in question. This was no Soyuz rocket.

Please unban sergeimosin

Something similar in Switzerland:

[link to translate.google.de]

Battle for Mönchengladbach... and so it begins

yes, i saw it happen live
no UFO, just a meteor or
space junk burning on re-entry.

* frankfurt area @ 5:30ish pm

the 2nd object in the video
(long tail/blue background)
is a totally DIFFERENT EVENT
...and its going the WRONG WAY/ANGLE!!!

nobody noticed that??

good morning iwtb76. I am sorry i had not seen your post.

You deserved the pin.

I wish you a merry christmas.

hmmm strange, it seems that i posted my comment in the wrong thread, i was talking about another sighting in russia. Sorry for the confusion.

Your video indeed looks like a meteor but could also be space junk.

:kimjong3:

I have a feeling this was a sign.

SOrry OP, your title is not correct! What Soyuz rocket?

A Soyuz rocket and a Russian military communications satellite crashed in Siberia on Friday
[link to spaceflightnow.com]
[link to www.google.com]


The other one Soyuz that took three man to ISS was 4 days ago! The boost rockets felt down in Siberia too.

good pic here:
[link to www.spiegel.de]

Well okay but there are dozen of sources now that reports it was a soyuz re-entry...im confused now

Breaking News: Decay of Soyuz r/b stage from André Kuipers' launch to ISS observed from the Netherlands!
[link to sattrackcam.blogspot.com]


Fireball over Germany

[UPDATE: Turns out the fireball described below was the re-entry of the Soyuz booster that brought Expedition 30 up to the International Space Station a few days ago. Thanks to Marco Langbroek for alerting me to this!]

[Update 2 (19:08 GMT): More footage, and a picture in a Dutch paper. Tip o' the Whipple Shield to VirtualAstro and JHG Hendriks.]

Reports are coming in of a very bright fireball over Germany, Belgium, and the Netherlands. It happened around 16:30 GMT (17:30 local time in that part of Europe) on December 24 (just a couple of hours ago as I write this). I heard of it when BA Bloggee Dave Grant sent me a note from Dusseldorf; he got video of it!
[link to blogs.discovermagazine.com]


Soyuz upper stage is the most likely explanation

The German Centre for Aerospace (DLR) keeps the reentry of the Soyuz upper stage for the most likely explanation. This rocket stage was removed about nine hours after launch. However, it will probably take until Tuesday to this statement could not be confirmed officially, said the DLR.

Some scientists are already one hundred percent sure that the upper stage of the ejected Russian Soyuz rocket that caused the lights. Marco Langbroek of the Dutch scientist wrote in his blog that the published time agree the re-entry of the rocket stage into the atmosphere with the observed luminosity of the well. Langbroek refers to information from the United States Strategic Command, which also monitors the re-entry of all objects produced by humans into the atmosphere. The data are, however, to view only available to registered users.

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Rocket my arse!

Santa

Hi whoami,


it wasnt the military satelite yes
they talk about the soyuz which carries the astronauts...and i dont say it is fact, but nearly all sources talk about this now

This should no offense and i dont wanna be foolish

phobos-grunt coming back down a little early?

say it soyuz whilst they check for any dangers caused by the toxic fuel?

Star of Bethlehem

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For other uses, see Star of Bethlehem (disambiguation).


Adoration of the Magi by Florentine painter Giotto di Bondone (1267–1337). The Star of Bethlehem is shown as a comet above the child. Giotto witnessed an appearance of Halley's Comet in 1301.

In Christian tradition, the Star of Bethlehem, also called the Christmas Star,[1] revealed the birth of Jesus to the magi, or "wise men", and later led them to Bethlehem. The star appears in the nativity story of the Gospel of Matthew, where magi "from the east" are inspired by the star to travel to Jerusalem.[2] There they meet King Herod of Judea, and ask where the king of the jewish people had been born. Herod, following a verse from the Book of Micah interpreted as a prophecy, directs them to Bethlehem, a nearby village. The star leads them to Jesus' house in Bethlehem, where they pay him obeisance, or respect, and give him gifts. The wise men were then given divine warning not to return to Herod so they return to their "own country" by a different route.[3]
Many Christians see the star as a miraculous sign to mark the birth of the Christ (or messiah). Some theologians claimed that the star fulfilled a prophecy, known as the Star Prophecy.[4] Astronomers have made several attempts to link the star to unusual astronomical events, such as a conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn , a comet or a supernova.[5][6]
Prominent scholars question the historical accuracy of the story and argue that the star was a pious fiction created by the author of the Gospel of Matthew.[7]

More at link

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Last Edited by SHR on 12/25/2011 10:42 AM

hehe,

well okay :D

I will change it a bit now...

Couple weeks ago we had a meteor here in Ontario. It was a big blue-green ball of light with a long trail of fire behind it. It was really cool. But there have been an increase in meteor sightings in my opinion. Them being seen on a greater scale at the same time instead of only a few people seeing the incident.

Okay people! This was clearly Silver Surfer! Glactucus is coming!

Okay people! This was clearly Silver Surfer! Glactucus is coming!

whoami i know the dates....


UPDATE - the final TIP for Soyuz r/b 38037 / 2011-078B has been released by USSTRATCOM near 18h GMT and it indeed shows that this was the Soyuz r/b: reentry time is quoted as 16:25 +/- 1 minute GMT at 49 deg N, 7 deg E. This fits the observations well.

In the Dutch press, there meanwhile appears to be a lot of confusion. The Dutch National Police claims that they talked to "NASA" who apparently said it was a "meteor" (or "comet"). So THAT is widely claimed in the press now, to the point of calling the identification with the Soyuz 3rd stage "speculation". Which it is not: it is based on factual data and now clearly confirmed by the USSTRATCOM TIP message. What more do you want?!


The observations fit with 2011-078B , the last stage of the Soyuz rocket that brought Dutch astronaut Andre Kuipers up to the ISS earlier this week. It was already predicted to decay near this moment by USSTRATCOM

[link to sattrackcam.blogspot.com]

yep, could be

its all confusing now i want to believe its not space junk...but i also want to inform what the msm media picks up

[link to www.20min.ch]

[link to translate.google.de]

12/24/2011 5:25 PM Basel Switzerland

Last Edited by bigT3ddy on 12/25/2011 09:06 AM

Was ist Das?!?! lol

Very interesting indeed.. I will be back to follow this thread more after Christmas lunch w/ the fam! :)

also in switzerland (video) [link to www.20min.ch]

Has anyone been able to calculate around where this thing came down?

It didn't magically fall down nine minutes after launch. The upper stage of a rocket like this goes with the payload into orbit. It doesn't decay and reenter until some days later. By the time the third stage has done its job, the spacecraft is in a low orbit.

Last Edited by Astromut on 12/25/2011 11:45 AM