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First of all, Enlil was Jehovah from Genesis 2-Genesis 24, after that, Jehovah were two gods, Enki and his son Marduk. It appears that most of you here have not read the Bible thoroughly and profoundly. Second of all, what makes you say that the Bible record is the true account of man's origin? The entire Bible was/is corrupted to lead man to believe in one sole god and to control mankind as a convenience to higher religoius leaders! If you believe that the Bible is the true source for man's origin and you dismiss the ancient premordial records of the Sumerians, then, you are solely mistaken!!!!!!!
Do you think that the Sumerians just out of the blue decided to invent ficticious stories relating to the Bible just because they were bored and didn't have anything better to do? Their records were written by actual eyewitnesses, who were there at that time; just like the HOLOCAUST of WW2, I can say that that event is a myth, because I wasn't there and I didn't see it happen or the MAN on the moon of 69, I can say that that is a myth because I wasn't there to see it. One more thing, you can believe what ever you want to believe in. I elect to believe in the Sumerian tablets, more credible!
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Ok so I am at a crossroads now.. Its proof that the Old Testament came from older writings, primarily, the writings of the Sumerians.. So in Sumerian creation it is said the Enki made humanity and Enlil deceived. Enlil wanted a flood and Enki saved. Yet Enki is known as the evil one because of his emblem, the serpent, and Enlil has been deemed as Jehovah. So its quite confusing when you involve the New Testament into all this, but I have somewhat cracked the surface of the truth. Now which of these gods is the god of Jesus? "39 They answered him, “Abraham is our father.” Jesus said to them, “If you were Abraham's children, you would be doing the works Abraham did, 40 but now you seek to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. This is not what Abraham did. 41 You are doing the works your father did.” They said to him, “We were not born of sexual immorality. We have one Father—even God.” 42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and I am here. I came not of my own accord, but he sent me. 43 Why do you not understand what I say? It is because you cannot bear to hear my word. 44 You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies." -John 8:39-44 So the god of Jesus was definitly not Jehovah or Enlil.. so is it Enki? Or I'm thinking its neither of the two and that Jesus is the father Anu of the Sumerian pantheon, who is described as sitting in a throne with light emanating from him. Jesus described his father as sitting in a throne with light emanating from him. Jesus also said that if you have seen me then you have seen the father.. So Jesus is Anu right? If anyone has any insight on this please reply.
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The answer you are looking for is found in the ancient gnostic gosepls in the nag hammadi library. The God Jesus came from is NOT the god of the old testament. This is common knowledge among christian gnostics likes myself. As far as Him being Enki, I am also pursuing learning that because the Godhead described in the gnostic gospels have not assigned Him a particular name. He is addressed as or named by HIs charater I.e. Father of the All, The Inscrutable One etc.. Hope this helps narrow it down. :)
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aaaaaah silence is golden , where have the devils gone , they a gone running hahahahaha silly silly people
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aaaaaah silence is golden , where have the devils gone , they a gone running hahahahaha silly silly people
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Good points. A bit beljgerent and prideful but you are kn track.
The mistake all seem to be making is that any of this is magical or exists in a realm of spirit and fantasy. This is all a matter of mundane reality that while I triguing and awe inspiring to ponder...ancient aliens...3600 year orbits...spiced DNA laden slave races...it is just hard mundane physically real events that have been passed down via story and felt via akashi genetically imprinted akasjic record.

We white "devils" are a hybrid. We are copies of copies of alien and terrestrial codes but if we get behind all this racial pride and arrogance of bappensgance and study the latter deeds of Jenkins and the para les of Jesus we can leap frog over all this and just be.

Worship doesn't help anyone but the frightened. And those who are most frightened are the most worshipful.

Get off tour knees and put down your fists and let's just laugh at the fact that none of us...none of us knows what is going on here.
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with a small percentage of wealthy controlling elite and bunch of slaves.
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Ok so I am at a crossroads now.. Its proof that the Old Testament came from older writings, primarily, the writings of the Sumerians.. So in Sumerian creation it is said the Enki made humanity and Enlil deceived. Enlil wanted a flood and Enki saved. Yet Enki is known as the evil one because of his emblem, the serpent, and Enlil has been deemed as Jehovah. So its quite confusing when you involve the New Testament into all this, but I have somewhat cracked the surface of the truth. Now which of these gods is the god of Jesus? "39 They answered him, “Abraham is our father.” Jesus said to them, “If you were Abraham's children, you would be doing the works Abraham did, 40 but now you seek to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. This is not what Abraham did. 41 You are doing the works your father did.” They said to him, “We were not born of sexual immorality. We have one Father—even God.” 42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and I am here. I came not of my own accord, but he sent me. 43 Why do you not understand what I say? It is because you cannot bear to hear my word. 44 You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies." -John 8:39-44 So the god of Jesus was definitly not Jehovah or Enlil.. so is it Enki? Or I'm thinking its neither of the two and that Jesus is the father Anu of the Sumerian pantheon, who is described as sitting in a throne with light emanating from him. Jesus described his father as sitting in a throne with light emanating from him. Jesus also said that if you have seen me then you have seen the father.. So Jesus is Anu right? If anyone has any insight on this please reply.
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The 'Apocalypse' from Revelations can be also called the 'Great Revealing' as it will show those lost souls following the current dark path that the book and words they worship were merely the test they never knew they were taking.

Christ knew, but none of his flock listened to his words, or follow his ways, and we are still stuck under the yoke of 'Kingship that was brought down from Heaven' ™
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First of all, Enlil was Jehovah from Genesis 2-Genesis 24, after that, Jehovah were two gods, Enki and his son Marduk. It appears that most of you here have not read the Bible thoroughly and profoundly. Second of all, what makes you say that the Bible record is the true account of man's origin? The entire Bible was/is corrupted to lead man to believe in one sole god and to control mankind as a convenience to higher religoius leaders! If you believe that the Bible is the true source for man's origin and you dismiss the ancient premordial records of the Sumerians, then, you are solely mistaken!!!!!!!
Do you think that the Sumerians just out of the blue decided to invent ficticious stories relating to the Bible just because they were bored and didn't have anything better to do? Their records were written by actual eyewitnesses, who were there at that time; just like the HOLOCAUST of WW2, I can say that that event is a myth, because I wasn't there and I didn't see it happen or the MAN on the moon of 69, I can say that that is a myth because I wasn't there to see it. One more thing, you can believe what ever you want to believe in. I elect to believe in the Sumerian tablets, more credible!
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Indeed.

People have a hard time wrapping their head around the notion that those stories in the Bible(all three books) attributed to a single God are in fact stories of multiple gods playing hero.
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No that's not what the Sumerian writings say at all.

[link to www.sitchiniswrong.com]

The old testament or Genesis does not come from Sumer since Noah's g-grandson Nimrod founded all of Babylon.

Genesis is older than any other text on the planet, compiled by Moses from original witnessed accounts firsthand all the way back to creation. (wiseman hypothesis)
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That website is a joke.

Genesis is NOT older than any text on the planet.

That is simply a bold faced lie told by Abrahamic slaves.
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No that's not what the Sumerian writings say at all.

[link to www.sitchiniswrong.com]

The old testament or Genesis does not come from Sumer since Noah's g-grandson Nimrod founded all of Babylon.

Genesis is older than any other text on the planet, compiled by Moses from original witnessed accounts firsthand all the way back to creation. (wiseman hypothesis)
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That website is a joke.

Genesis is NOT older than any text on the planet.

That is simply a bold faced lie told by Abrahamic slaves.
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of course it is a joke.
check amuro biglino, who based on his translations for the vatican of the bible, the ancient herew texts, asserts the idea that Yahweh and his angles were flesh beings.
[link to www.maurobiglino.com]
really intresting his works.
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No that's not what the Sumerian writings say at all.

[link to www.sitchiniswrong.com]

The old testament or Genesis does not come from Sumer since Noah's g-grandson Nimrod founded all of Babylon.

Genesis is older than any other text on the planet, compiled by Moses from original witnessed accounts firsthand all the way back to creation. (wiseman hypothesis)
 Quoting: J 7609949


That website is a joke.

Genesis is NOT older than any text on the planet.

That is simply a bold faced lie told by Abrahamic slaves.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24453482


of course it is a joke.
check amuro biglino, who based on his translations for the vatican of the bible, the ancient herew texts, asserts the idea that Yahweh and his angles were flesh beings.
[link to www.maurobiglino.com]
really intresting his works.
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his knowledge of acient hebrew were approved by the vatican, who published his works in its own name. he can't be dismissed like sitchin.
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GOD is the SUN (The Star)
Jesus is also the SUN

The Sun is our life giver and taker

The sooner you accept that the sooner the human race can move forward.
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This is about you:

Romans 1:19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
Romans 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
Romans 1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
Romans 1:23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
Romans 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
Romans 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
Romans 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
Romans 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
Romans 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
Romans 1:29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
Romans 1:30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
Romans 1:31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
Romans 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Repent.
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Can you tell me where you are getting the idea that the Hebrew Scriptures are entirely based on Sumerian tablets?

Some of the stories are the same - and seem to have come from some written texts, but the Sumerian culture was destroyed circa 2000 BCE - about a millennium before Judaism was established.

Egypt also had an influence on the Hebrew Scriptures, not only in some of its hymns, but with whole systems of ethics and morals.

It is too simplistic to say God = Enlil, etc . . . it is much more complicated than that.

John is a complex and difficult text, in both its philosophy and its theology. The passage you are quoting is one where Jesus is accusing men of being children of Satan - and you seem to have made the very common mistake of conflating Satan with the serpent.

For the writer of the gospel of John, many things were very black and white. You either followed God, or you were a child of Satan . . . nothing in between. You believed in Christ and so had eternal life, or you did not, and were therefore damned for all time, etc. etc. This is one of those passages - you can follow the rules of "this world" (ie the Roman Empire), and so be a son of Satan, or you can follow the rules of God and be one of the elect.

Who have you been reading that you have fashioned your thinking around? There might be other books that you could find more helpful or inspirational . . .
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Well the Sumerians talked about the Garden of Eden, Creation, Planets.. They talked about a tree of life which can be seen in images of their tablets.. They also wrote that the tree of life is in their dwelling place, which the Bible says the tree of life is in heaven. And even if the civilization was wiped out the tablets remain till today. This was thousands of years before the Hebrew texts and for the Hebrews to write the same things must have meant that they either rewrote Sumerian, ancient Aramaic writings about the Sumerians into their own writings which is now called the Old Testament.

In the Old Testament it says lets make man in "our" image. In the old testament it also seems to have a God that has two personalities. He was loving and in another part he's destroying nations. This is very similar to Enki and Enlil of the Sumerians, which seems the Hebrews formed into one God. Now I'm trying to figure out.. What the hell is going on?!?!? The Hebrews can not on first account have written everything that is in the Old Testament because they weren't even around during the creation. The tribe of Judah was a tribe formed after the confounding of the languages in Babylon. The Hebrew language roots from Aramaic, which was most likely taken by the Jewish people from early Aramaic speaking nations such as Assyria. The God of Moses (the Jealous God of the bible) is a member of the Annunaki (The ones who came from heaven to earth). Now whichever one he is, whether he is Anu the father of the Annunaki, or Enki or Enlil that I don't know. What Sitchin says about Nibiru and the planet that the Annunaki live on is very similar to what the Bible says about heaven. For example the Annunaki had an interest in gold.. The bible says that heaven has streets of gold. Jesus said that his father sits in a throne which light emanates from him and the holy council surrounds him. Anu the father of Enki and Enlil is also said to have been sitting in a throne surrounded by the Annunaki council. Now as to who is Jesus? Is he Enki? Is he Enlil? Is he just a man that was born of the holy spirit? Or is he just a man that was sedated on the cross and then escaped to Kashmir as some texts claim, and his claim has been perpetuated into a whole ordeal? Is he the holy Anu incarnated in human form? The Sumerians didn't even believe in hell, since Enlil was the one that deceived Eve into eating the the fruit of forbidden knowledge and not "Satan". Now Nibiru the red planet is not heaven.. Nibiru plays the role of the sun for the planets revolving around Nibiru. If Sitchin was incorrect then why do these same similar gods appear about 3000 years later in Egypt, Rome, and Greece? Did they build the pyramids to leave as proof of their arrival? Is judgment day the third arrival of Nibiru by Earth?
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The real history is lost forever in the burning of the library at Alexandria. That being said, there are clues, myths, stories, parables, allegories..etc. to bring someone into understanding. And what is it we are supposed to understand? They were here, bad stuff happened...they want to return, but need to get 7 billion under control.. that is the bottom line.
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ALL THIS IS NOTED FROM TIME LIVED... BUT WHAT U SEEK IS NOT THESE WORDS... BUT THE OBSERVATIONS OF ALL CREATION LIVING EVERYWHERE... NOT JUST LITTLE EARTH BACTERIUM MICROBES CALLED HUMANOID... THE TRUTH COMES FROM NOT TALKING TO NO ONE... BUT OBSERVING EVERYTHING AND DOING JUSTICE TO THAT WHICH IS OPPRESSED BY QUESTIONING... FOLLOW NOT MAN OR GO TO ITS SCHOOL'S FOR THE LORD IS THE FOREST AND THE ENVIRONMENTS OF UNDERSTANDING LIFE... KILLING ANYTHING IS SIN... CAUSE SIN MADE U A WALKING FLYING BACTERIUM... THE HOLY SPIRIT IS PERPETUAL... NEEDING NO CONSUMING... HENCE GOD IS PURE ENERGY = GLORY... GOD IS ALIVE AGAIN IN FLESH FOR IT CAN TAKE ON ANY CREATION IT NEEDS TO CONVEY ITSELF...AND HAS COME BACK TO REDEEM ITS CREATIONS THAT FELL INTO BACTERIUM INDULGENCE OVER GLORY OF THE SPIRIT ZOHAR TORAH ORAH BODY... THE GHOSTGODHEADED AURA BODY ATOM... YOUR QUEST IS CLOSE... BUT 1 MUST SUFFER THE WORST PERFECTLY TO OBTAIN THE PUREST TRUTHS OF LIBERATION AND RESTORATION OF GOD'S CREATIONS SALVATIONS... BOTH U ARE LOOKING FOR GOOD... 1 OF U HAS EGO PROBLEMS... BUT U WHO SEEK OLDER THAN ALL RECORD OF IT... U WILL FIND IT ALONE... AND NOT ASKING ANYTHING BUT THE EXOTIC ENERGIES OF THE ALL BEING WE LIVE INSIDE RIGHT AT THIS MOMENT THEE ALMIGHTY IS ALIVE FOR WE ARE INSIDE ITS LIVING HOST VESSEL... I WISH HUMANS HAD A CLUE... UNTIL U SEEK THE HIDDEN 1... U WILL NOT KNOW THAT IT IS RIGHT THERE WITH U... 93% OF LIFE IS TOAST AND 7% ARE STILL THE GOD DNA STRAND DEFENDING ALL LIFE... HOPE U CAN READ INBETWEEN LINES TO THE 1 THAT WALKS INBETWEEN WORLDS... G-JES'SELAH COSMIC LAW # 1 PARTICLE ATOM LORD
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ALL THIS IS NOTED FROM TIME LIVED... BUT WHAT U SEEK IS NOT THESE WORDS... BUT THE OBSERVATIONS OF ALL CREATION LIVING EVERYWHERE... NOT JUST LITTLE EARTH BACTERIUM MICROBES CALLED HUMANOID... THE TRUTH COMES FROM NOT TALKING TO NO ONE... BUT OBSERVING EVERYTHING AND DOING JUSTICE TO THAT WHICH IS OPPRESSED BY QUESTIONING... FOLLOW NOT MAN OR GO TO ITS SCHOOL'S FOR THE LORD IS THE FOREST AND THE ENVIRONMENTS OF UNDERSTANDING LIFE... KILLING ANYTHING IS SIN... CAUSE SIN MADE U A WALKING FLYING BACTERIUM... THE HOLY SPIRIT IS PERPETUAL... NEEDING NO CONSUMING... HENCE GOD IS PURE ENERGY = GLORY... GOD IS ALIVE AGAIN IN FLESH FOR IT CAN TAKE ON ANY CREATION IT NEEDS TO CONVEY ITSELF...AND HAS COME BACK TO REDEEM ITS CREATIONS THAT FELL INTO BACTERIUM INDULGENCE OVER GLORY OF THE SPIRIT ZOHAR TORAH ORAH BODY... THE GHOSTGODHEADED AURA BODY ATOM... YOUR QUEST IS CLOSE... BUT 1 MUST SUFFER THE WORST PERFECTLY TO OBTAIN THE PUREST TRUTHS OF LIBERATION AND RESTORATION OF GOD'S CREATIONS SALVATIONS... BOTH U ARE LOOKING FOR GOOD... 1 OF U HAS EGO PROBLEMS... BUT U WHO SEEK OLDER THAN ALL RECORD OF IT... U WILL FIND IT ALONE... AND NOT ASKING ANYTHING BUT THE EXOTIC ENERGIES OF THE ALL BEING WE LIVE INSIDE RIGHT AT THIS MOMENT THEE ALMIGHTY IS ALIVE FOR WE ARE INSIDE ITS LIVING HOST VESSEL... I WISH HUMANS HAD A CLUE... UNTIL U SEEK THE HIDDEN 1... U WILL NOT KNOW THAT IT IS RIGHT THERE WITH U... 93% OF LIFE IS TOAST AND 7% ARE STILL THE GOD DNA STRAND DEFENDING ALL LIFE... HOPE U CAN READ INBETWEEN LINES TO THE 1 THAT WALKS INBETWEEN WORLDS... G-JES'SELAH COSMIC LAW # 1 PARTICLE ATOM LORD
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Us humans??? So what does that make you?
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Ok so I am at a crossroads now.. Its proof that the Old Testament came from older writings, primarily, the writings of the Sumerians.. So in Sumerian creation it is said the Enki made humanity and Enlil deceived. Enlil wanted a flood and Enki saved. Yet Enki is known as the evil one because of his emblem, the serpent, and Enlil has been deemed as Jehovah. So its quite confusing when you involve the New Testament into all this, but I have somewhat cracked the surface of the truth. Now which of these gods is the god of Jesus? "39 They answered him, “Abraham is our father.” Jesus said to them, “If you were Abraham's children, you would be doing the works Abraham did, 40 but now you seek to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. This is not what Abraham did. 41 You are doing the works your father did.” They said to him, “We were not born of sexual immorality. We have one Father—even God.” 42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and I am here. I came not of my own accord, but he sent me. 43 Why do you not understand what I say? It is because you cannot bear to hear my word. 44 You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies." -John 8:39-44 So the god of Jesus was definitly not Jehovah or Enlil.. so is it Enki? Or I'm thinking its neither of the two and that Jesus is the father Anu of the Sumerian pantheon, who is described as sitting in a throne with light emanating from him. Jesus described his father as sitting in a throne with light emanating from him. Jesus also said that if you have seen me then you have seen the father.. So Jesus is Anu right? If anyone has any insight on this please reply.
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OP, its disheartening when someone like you (like many of us) asks genuine questions and gets slammed with biblical dogma. I was raised in a Christian home and for over 40 years, sat in a silent bubble of questions because no one (within the church) had the answers I was seeking. About 5 years ago, I began in-depth study of the origins of Christianity, the church, our history, ancient civilizations, etc., and it didn't take long for many of the pieces to start falling into place. I don't wish to speak ill of anyone's religion, but, if one seeks truth, be prepared to have your eyes opened once you start digging into the historical data.

Keep seeking OP... the truth is out there! :)
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It's also important to remember, the victors are the one's writing history, but that doesn't mean the victors are good people.

I've read of who the people were behind the early days of organized Christianity, and I'm disgusted. Lying, cheating, stealing, murder, prostitution . . . all part of the lives of leaders of the "church." It was all about power and prestige. They ruled over Kings, remember.

It's not hard to imagine that the Vatican TODAY, is up to it's neck in money laundering, murder, and pedophiles, deeply into the mob, and soon to be taken down.

So many lies about who we are. We've been lied to since day one about it all. I'm convinced that if there is a true God, the elite and all those behind the corruption, would never have allowed us peons to know the truth. They killed for the truth, and they still do.

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Ok so I am at a crossroads now.. Its proof that the Old Testament came from older writings, primarily, the writings of the Sumerians.. So in Sumerian creation it is said the Enki made humanity and Enlil deceived. Enlil wanted a flood and Enki saved. Yet Enki is known as the evil one because of his emblem, the serpent, and Enlil has been deemed as Jehovah. So its quite confusing when you involve the New Testament into all this, but I have somewhat cracked the surface of the truth. Now which of these gods is the god of Jesus? "39 They answered him, “Abraham is our father.” Jesus said to them, “If you were Abraham's children, you would be doing the works Abraham did, 40 but now you seek to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. This is not what Abraham did. 41 You are doing the works your father did.” They said to him, “We were not born of sexual immorality. We have one Father—even God.” 42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and I am here. I came not of my own accord, but he sent me. 43 Why do you not understand what I say? It is because you cannot bear to hear my word. 44 You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies." -John 8:39-44 So the god of Jesus was definitly not Jehovah or Enlil.. so is it Enki? Or I'm thinking its neither of the two and that Jesus is the father Anu of the Sumerian pantheon, who is described as sitting in a throne with light emanating from him. Jesus described his father as sitting in a throne with light emanating from him. Jesus also said that if you have seen me then you have seen the father.. So Jesus is Anu right? If anyone has any insight on this please reply.
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OP, its disheartening when someone like you (like many of us) asks genuine questions and gets slammed with biblical dogma. I was raised in a Christian home and for over 40 years, sat in a silent bubble of questions because no one (within the church) had the answers I was seeking. About 5 years ago, I began in-depth study of the origins of Christianity, the church, our history, ancient civilizations, etc., and it didn't take long for many of the pieces to start falling into place. I don't wish to speak ill of anyone's religion, but, if one seeks truth, be prepared to have your eyes opened once you start digging into the historical data.

Keep seeking OP... the truth is out there! :)
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It's also important to remember, the victors are the one's writing history, but that doesn't mean the victors are good people.

I've read of who the people were behind the early days of organized Christianity, and I'm disgusted. Lying, cheating, stealing, murder, prostitution . . . all part of the lives of leaders of the "church." It was all about power and prestige. They ruled over Kings, remember.

It's not hard to imagine that the Vatican TODAY, is up to it's neck in money laundering, murder, and pedophiles, deeply into the mob, and soon to be taken down.

So many lies about who we are. We've been lied to since day one about it all. I'm convinced that if there is a true God, the elite and all those behind the corruption, would never have allowed us peons to know the truth. They killed for the truth, and they still do.

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The mystery is revealed once again.

Fifth Basis—The Mystery of our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ, who entered upon his mission as the Redeemer from the day Melchizedek met Abram returning from the slaughter of the kings. This is the revelation of the Apostle Paul.
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No doubt Jesus was referring to God, the father as God the Father of his Soul.

Almost all pre-Hebrew religions had many gods and goddesses as well as humans who were said to have one of them as a parent.

God does not violate the same natural laws he created and he does not impregnate women like other gods.

Whomever developed the story of a virgin birth did so in the mythological sense to make Jesus more than human.

God, the father of his soul, makes him no less divine as the Holy Spirit was said to be within him early on.

Nor is he any less divine if he was married as soon as he could support a wife as a carpenter. It would have been an arranged marriage when he was young as was the Jewish custom of the time. Even as a Rabbi, he would have been expected to marry.

So it probably was not Mary Magdeline or any version of her.

By the time of his ministry around 30, it is quite possible he was already a widower since so many young women died in childbirth and many children died young, if not at birth.

We actually know so little of him. As a carpenter and susposedly a Rabbi, he would have been a literate man. He could have written his own gospels and perhaps did.

Maybe we just haven't found them or maybe they were destroyed or maybe the Vatican Library has kept his own writings hidden.

Joseph of Arimathea (?) was also a literate man. Surely if he gave a grave to Mary for the body, he would also have written his own knowledge of Jesus and the life he led. As an uncle of Jesus, he certainly would have known him from birth.

Now that is the gospel we should all want to read. It might actually be truthful.

Much of what we have come to know as the gospels and the Bible was written for the pagans. To convert them, things had to be in terms they could understand. Even their holy days were co-opted because they would not give up their celebrations. Churches and Cathedrals were often built upon pagan temple sites.

None of that invalidates Jesus as our Savior from Satan or his divine nature.

Let us also recognize that the Catholic Church and many other Christian sects still follow the outlines of Paul in his letters in shutting out women and telling them to be silently obedient.

Peter may have founded the Church of Rome, but it was Constantine who really directed what would be in the Bible and what would be the laws of the Church. All else was considered heresy and heretics were murdered.

And that is why the American concept of Freedom of Religion shook the world almost as much as the concept of one man, one vote or goverment by the people, of the people and for the people. There was no such things anywhere in the world until then.
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its all the same people.

then and now...one people.
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Agree. All the same people just with different names.
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It's all fiction man, it's all fiction.
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Ok so I am at a crossroads now.. Its proof that the Old Testament came from older writings, primarily, the writings of the Sumerians..
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They also admit they "created" man to be their slaves (to mine gold). Do you honestly think the slave driver/s would EVER tell the slaves the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

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NO WHITES GONA ANSWER THE ABOVE , NOPE ..

i thought not , not fucking one of you is a true believer or knows anything about god or the bible , wtf is wrong with your race , oh yeah ye are of your father ...da debil
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You can't say that. Not all are.Yahuaha or whatever name we give him now doesn't pick based upon color. He chooses based upon blood. That's the first thing. Secondly, anyone is free to seek the truth . To be good knights mean to be just.
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Ok I get that the scripture says that Jehovah is Jesus's father, but I am talking about Sumerian writings since Hebrew texts root from their tablets.. So Enlil would be the father of Jesus then? Enlil is the storm God. Yet Enlil was the deceiver and Enlil was the one that wished to wipe out humanity. Enki on the other hand was the one that saved humanity and he is the God of Wisdom. He is the one called Lord in Sumerian writings. Enki is the one that made humanity in the likeness of 'us' the gods.. That is why Enlil deceived Eve into eating the fruit. That is why the Bible in the Old Testament has two characteristics.. One being loving and the other being angry and hateful.. Yahweh and Jehovah are not the same one God as the Old Testament claims.. They are Enki and Enlil. Now please use Sumerian texts as well as the Bible. So is Jehovah (Enlil) the God of Jesus and his father and is he incarnated into human form as Jesus? Where is Enki or Yahweh stand in all this? Since the Hebrews wrote the Old Testament based on Sumerian Writings. I am trying to piece the Sumerian writings instead of the Old Testament with the New Testament to find answers.
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the sun is not God
God is everywhere

humanity got that idea in 50000bc
think about it
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Ok so I am at a crossroads now.. Its proof that the Old Testament came from older writings, primarily, the writings of the Sumerians.. So in Sumerian creation it is said the Enki made humanity and Enlil deceived. Enlil wanted a flood and Enki saved. Yet Enki is known as the evil one because of his emblem, the serpent, and Enlil has been deemed as Jehovah. So its quite confusing when you involve the New Testament into all this, but I have somewhat cracked the surface of the truth. Now which of these gods is the god of Jesus? "39 They answered him, “Abraham is our father.” Jesus said to them, “If you were Abraham's children, you would be doing the works Abraham did, 40 but now you seek to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. This is not what Abraham did. 41 You are doing the works your father did.” They said to him, “We were not born of sexual immorality. We have one Father—even God.” 42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and I am here. I came not of my own accord, but he sent me. 43 Why do you not understand what I say? It is because you cannot bear to hear my word. 44 You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies." -John 8:39-44 So the god of Jesus was definitly not Jehovah or Enlil.. so is it Enki? Or I'm thinking its neither of the two and that Jesus is the father Anu of the Sumerian pantheon, who is described as sitting in a throne with light emanating from him. Jesus described his father as sitting in a throne with light emanating from him. Jesus also said that if you have seen me then you have seen the father.. So Jesus is Anu right? If anyone has any insight on this please reply.
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FALSE
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You tards keep arguing untill youre blue in the face. None of you can prove a damn thing. Ima go out and enjoy the SUN


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