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Message Subject Sumerian Pantheon Gods & Jesus
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Ok so I am at a crossroads now.. Its proof that the Old Testament came from older writings, primarily, the writings of the Sumerians.. So in Sumerian creation it is said the Enki made humanity and Enlil deceived. Enlil wanted a flood and Enki saved. Yet Enki is known as the evil one because of his emblem, the serpent, and Enlil has been deemed as Jehovah. So its quite confusing when you involve the New Testament into all this, but I have somewhat cracked the surface of the truth. Now which of these gods is the god of Jesus? "39 They answered him, “Abraham is our father.” Jesus said to them, “If you were Abraham's children, you would be doing the works Abraham did, 40 but now you seek to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. This is not what Abraham did. 41 You are doing the works your father did.” They said to him, “We were not born of sexual immorality. We have one Father—even God.” 42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and I am here. I came not of my own accord, but he sent me. 43 Why do you not understand what I say? It is because you cannot bear to hear my word. 44 You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies." -John 8:39-44 So the god of Jesus was definitly not Jehovah or Enlil.. so is it Enki? Or I'm thinking its neither of the two and that Jesus is the father Anu of the Sumerian pantheon, who is described as sitting in a throne with light emanating from him. Jesus described his father as sitting in a throne with light emanating from him. Jesus also said that if you have seen me then you have seen the father.. So Jesus is Anu right? If anyone has any insight on this please reply.
 Quoting: Anonymous 7632300


OP, its disheartening when someone like you (like many of us) asks genuine questions and gets slammed with biblical dogma. I was raised in a Christian home and for over 40 years, sat in a silent bubble of questions because no one (within the church) had the answers I was seeking. About 5 years ago, I began in-depth study of the origins of Christianity, the church, our history, ancient civilizations, etc., and it didn't take long for many of the pieces to start falling into place. I don't wish to speak ill of anyone's religion, but, if one seeks truth, be prepared to have your eyes opened once you start digging into the historical data.

Keep seeking OP... the truth is out there! :)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1948683


It's also important to remember, the victors are the one's writing history, but that doesn't mean the victors are good people.

I've read of who the people were behind the early days of organized Christianity, and I'm disgusted. Lying, cheating, stealing, murder, prostitution . . . all part of the lives of leaders of the "church." It was all about power and prestige. They ruled over Kings, remember.

It's not hard to imagine that the Vatican TODAY, is up to it's neck in money laundering, murder, and pedophiles, deeply into the mob, and soon to be taken down.

So many lies about who we are. We've been lied to since day one about it all. I'm convinced that if there is a true God, the elite and all those behind the corruption, would never have allowed us peons to know the truth. They killed for the truth, and they still do.

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1520917


Ok so I am at a crossroads now.. Its proof that the Old Testament came from older writings, primarily, the writings of the Sumerians.. So in Sumerian creation it is said the Enki made humanity and Enlil deceived. Enlil wanted a flood and Enki saved. Yet Enki is known as the evil one because of his emblem, the serpent, and Enlil has been deemed as Jehovah. So its quite confusing when you involve the New Testament into all this, but I have somewhat cracked the surface of the truth. Now which of these gods is the god of Jesus? "39 They answered him, “Abraham is our father.” Jesus said to them, “If you were Abraham's children, you would be doing the works Abraham did, 40 but now you seek to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. This is not what Abraham did. 41 You are doing the works your father did.” They said to him, “We were not born of sexual immorality. We have one Father—even God.” 42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and I am here. I came not of my own accord, but he sent me. 43 Why do you not understand what I say? It is because you cannot bear to hear my word. 44 You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies." -John 8:39-44 So the god of Jesus was definitly not Jehovah or Enlil.. so is it Enki? Or I'm thinking its neither of the two and that Jesus is the father Anu of the Sumerian pantheon, who is described as sitting in a throne with light emanating from him. Jesus described his father as sitting in a throne with light emanating from him. Jesus also said that if you have seen me then you have seen the father.. So Jesus is Anu right? If anyone has any insight on this please reply.
 Quoting: Anonymous 7632300


OP, its disheartening when someone like you (like many of us) asks genuine questions and gets slammed with biblical dogma. I was raised in a Christian home and for over 40 years, sat in a silent bubble of questions because no one (within the church) had the answers I was seeking. About 5 years ago, I began in-depth study of the origins of Christianity, the church, our history, ancient civilizations, etc., and it didn't take long for many of the pieces to start falling into place. I don't wish to speak ill of anyone's religion, but, if one seeks truth, be prepared to have your eyes opened once you start digging into the historical data.

Keep seeking OP... the truth is out there! :)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1948683


It's also important to remember, the victors are the one's writing history, but that doesn't mean the victors are good people.

I've read of who the people were behind the early days of organized Christianity, and I'm disgusted. Lying, cheating, stealing, murder, prostitution . . . all part of the lives of leaders of the "church." It was all about power and prestige. They ruled over Kings, remember.

It's not hard to imagine that the Vatican TODAY, is up to it's neck in money laundering, murder, and pedophiles, deeply into the mob, and soon to be taken down.

So many lies about who we are. We've been lied to since day one about it all. I'm convinced that if there is a true God, the elite and all those behind the corruption, would never have allowed us peons to know the truth. They killed for the truth, and they still do.

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1520917
 
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