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Let's face it, you can't separate money from greed. The only good trading method is the barter system.

 
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Let's face it, you can't separate money from greed. The only good trading method is the barter system.
With the barter system, not only can everyone know each other, but they rely on each other to survive. Thus they will not kill each other like what money has done to us. The barter system will keep a good balance in a society and eliminate all the things that are no use to us. No more useless junk and thus will be more environmental friendly. The population will be more in control of their life and not be influenced by the government and banks.

Barter system is not only a good trading method but it will create a caring society as a whole. No more cheating others, what you see is what you'll get. That's the way it should be right at the beginning.
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Re: Let's face it, you can't separate money from greed. The only good trading method is the barter system.
all money is is liquidy... as long as u have an item someone wants there will be greed can we stop with these threads now?
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Re: Let's face it, you can't separate money from greed. The only good trading method is the barter system.
all money is is liquidy... as long as u have an item someone wants there will be greed can we stop with these threads now?
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Will you trade your food for a car? Which is more important?
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all money is is liquidy... as long as u have an item someone wants there will be greed can we stop with these threads now?
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Will you trade your food for a car? Which is more important?
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if i manufactured cars i would trade it for food or
if i was a king i would kill someone for a car the same way id kill someone for money id also kill someone for food the same way id kill someone for money
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Re: Let's face it, you can't separate money from greed. The only good trading method is the barter system.
all money is is liquidy... as long as u have an item someone wants there will be greed can we stop with these threads now?
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Will you trade your food for a car? Which is more important?
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if i manufactured cars i would trade it for food or
if i was a king i would kill someone for a car the same way id kill someone for money id also kill someone for food the same way id kill someone for money
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How many people can you kill? No one will be king because everyone will be equally important. Sure every now and then there will some bad people but the society will get rid of them immediately. Nature is one big barter system. Grass provide food for cows and cows fertilize the soil to grow more grass.
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Re: Let's face it, you can't separate money from greed. The only good trading method is the barter system.
all money is is liquidy... as long as u have an item someone wants there will be greed can we stop with these threads now?
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Will you trade your food for a car? Which is more important?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 959341


if i manufactured cars i would trade it for food or
if i was a king i would kill someone for a car the same way id kill someone for money id also kill someone for food the same way id kill someone for money
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7618708


How many people can you kill? No one will be king because everyone will be equally important. Sure every now and then there will some bad people but the society will get rid of them immediately. Nature is one big barter system. Grass provide food for cows and cows fertilize the soil to grow more grass.
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every1 will be equally important? ok tell me when humans evolved enough to not need leaders tell me when a casheir (who idk how hes going to get paid... a shiny rock?) is just as important as an engineer (idk how he will get paid either) all your saying is hopefull stuff that will never happen in reality
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Will you trade your food for a car? Which is more important?
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if i manufactured cars i would trade it for food or
if i was a king i would kill someone for a car the same way id kill someone for money id also kill someone for food the same way id kill someone for money
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7618708


How many people can you kill? No one will be king because everyone will be equally important. Sure every now and then there will some bad people but the society will get rid of them immediately. Nature is one big barter system. Grass provide food for cows and cows fertilize the soil to grow more grass.
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every1 will be equally important? ok tell me when humans evolved enough to not need leaders tell me when a casheir (who idk how hes going to get paid... a shiny rock?) is just as important as an engineer (idk how he will get paid either) all your saying is hopefull stuff that will never happen in reality
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Can't you see, every human being will be taking care of each other in order to survive and improve as a species. No one can overtake the other.
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if i manufactured cars i would trade it for food or
if i was a king i would kill someone for a car the same way id kill someone for money id also kill someone for food the same way id kill someone for money
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7618708


How many people can you kill? No one will be king because everyone will be equally important. Sure every now and then there will some bad people but the society will get rid of them immediately. Nature is one big barter system. Grass provide food for cows and cows fertilize the soil to grow more grass.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 954862


every1 will be equally important? ok tell me when humans evolved enough to not need leaders tell me when a casheir (who idk how hes going to get paid... a shiny rock?) is just as important as an engineer (idk how he will get paid either) all your saying is hopefull stuff that will never happen in reality
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7618708


Can't you see, every human being will be taking care of each other in order to survive and improve as a species. No one can overtake the other.
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even in the tribes of africa they have village cheifs humans (as of now atleast) NEED a person in charge and keep every1 in line and now that were off topic let me get back on topic

say i grow corn and u raise cows what if i want a cow to eat but u dont want corn and thats all i have to offer.. then i have to find somethin u want barter for that with someone else and then barter with u for the cow orrrr with money i could sell my corn and buy a cow its not money that = greed its the love of items (money gives u items) money is actually good cuase it makes civilization run smoother also even ancient places used money just it was gold silver and bronze
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How many people can you kill? No one will be king because everyone will be equally important. Sure every now and then there will some bad people but the society will get rid of them immediately. Nature is one big barter system. Grass provide food for cows and cows fertilize the soil to grow more grass.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 954862


every1 will be equally important? ok tell me when humans evolved enough to not need leaders tell me when a casheir (who idk how hes going to get paid... a shiny rock?) is just as important as an engineer (idk how he will get paid either) all your saying is hopefull stuff that will never happen in reality
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7618708


Can't you see, every human being will be taking care of each other in order to survive and improve as a species. No one can overtake the other.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 954862


even in the tribes of africa they have village cheifs humans (as of now atleast) NEED a person in charge and keep every1 in line and now that were off topic let me get back on topic

say i grow corn and u raise cows what if i want a cow to eat but u dont want corn and thats all i have to offer.. then i have to find somethin u want barter for that with someone else and then barter with u for the cow orrrr with money i could sell my corn and buy a cow its not money that = greed its the love of items (money gives u items) money is actually good cuase it makes civilization run smoother also even ancient places used money just it was gold silver and bronze
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Of course there must be an organized system in order for the system barter to work. The problem with money is people view it as survival item and started collecting more and more money. Too much money makes people want too many useless things and create imbalance in the society. Money should only be use if people are not emotionally attached to it which is impossible.
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Re: Let's face it, you can't separate money from greed. The only good trading method is the barter system.
With the barter system, not only can everyone know each other, but they rely on each other to survive. Thus they will not kill each other like what money has done to us. The barter system will keep a good balance in a society and eliminate all the things that are no use to us. No more useless junk and thus will be more environmental friendly. The population will be more in control of their life and not be influenced by the government and banks.

Barter system is not only a good trading method but it will create a caring society as a whole. No more cheating others, what you see is what you'll get. That's the way it should be right at the beginning.
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barter will lead us back down the same road as it did before..time for something new resource based economy ftw!
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Re: Let's face it, you can't separate money from greed. The only good trading method is the barter system.
That kind of society does sound perfect, and I wish I could live there, but it's impossible

Greed is an inherent part of our humanity and so we strive to not be greedy

Bartering is still a great idea, but there's so many laws against it which force big parts of the market to go underground

you could start by getting rid of any sort of income tax
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Re: Let's face it, you can't separate money from greed. The only good trading method is the barter system.
That kind of society does sound perfect, and I wish I could live there, but it's impossible

Greed is an inherent part of our humanity and so we strive to not be greedy

Bartering is still a great idea, but there's so many laws against it which force big parts of the market to go underground

you could start by getting rid of any sort of income tax
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... and of any sort of interest on funny PAPER money.
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well people must be re-educated to use barter. People now lack of the necessary expertise.
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I would rather say, you cant separate insecurity from greed
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it like people forget history and that barter got us to where we are now. insanity:::doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. no money, no barter, this is where we need to go. share and care for every human no matter where they happen to be located on the planet, and no matter what environment they come from.
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I would rather say, you cant separate insecurity from greed
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Is not greed causing it rather? Most of the conflicts are greed implied.
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all money is is liquidy... as long as u have an item someone wants there will be greed can we stop with these threads now?
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Great poster, you nailed.

These idealistic folks who think just because they implement their utupia people will suddenly become good and noble are just fucking annoying.

Come back to reality morans.
"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

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Re: Let's face it, you can't separate money from greed. The only good trading method is the barter system.
all money is is liquidy... as long as u have an item someone wants there will be greed can we stop with these threads now?
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Great poster, you nailed.

These idealistic folks who think just because they implement their utupia people will suddenly become good and noble are just fucking annoying.

Come back to reality morans.
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the reality is most of societies depraved are not born this way they are created. we teach most of what is wrong in the world. we leave millions uneducated or poorly educated...we teach violence, greed, and separatism. we say to children share, share, share but they hear us talk about mine mine mine. its not a utopia i want to force on people...i dont want to force anything...i want to educate people to the fact that a moneyless/barterless society is possible. we have the technology to get us there all we need are the educated masses who are ready for a change...ready to have actual equality for every human.
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Re: Let's face it, you can't separate money from greed. The only good trading method is the barter system.
Many people wouldnt understand this, people know of no other system other then this one, they will not let it go easily. They are filled with fear.


I would love to see a complete overhaul, bring on a Resource based economy like The Venus Project :D
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Many people wouldnt understand this, people know of no other system other then this one, they will not let it go easily. They are filled with fear.


I would love to see a complete overhaul, bring on a Resource based economy like The Venus Project :D
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they have been filled with fear...im really tired of being called a commie b/c i want people to share.
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Greed is not a feeling.. its a strategy to manage your feelings of insecurity
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With the barter system, not only can everyone know each other, but they rely on each other to survive. Thus they will not kill each other like what money has done to us. The barter system will keep a good balance in a society and eliminate all the things that are no use to us. No more useless junk and thus will be more environmental friendly. The population will be more in control of their life and not be influenced by the government and banks.

Barter system is not only a good trading method but it will create a caring society as a whole. No more cheating others, what you see is what you'll get. That's the way it should be right at the beginning.
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all money is is liquidy... as long as u have an item someone wants there will be greed can we stop with these threads now?
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Great poster, you nailed.

These idealistic folks who think just because they implement their utupia people will suddenly become good and noble are just fucking annoying.

Come back to reality morans.
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren


the reality is most of societies depraved are not born this way they are created. we teach most of what is wrong in the world. we leave millions uneducated or poorly educated...we teach violence, greed, and separatism. we say to children share, share, share but they hear us talk about mine mine mine. its not a utopia i want to force on people...i dont want to force anything...i want to educate people to the fact that a moneyless/barterless society is possible. we have the technology to get us there all we need are the educated masses who are ready for a change...ready to have actual equality for every human.
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There's no equality, some people, if not most, are naturally selfish, you can't re-engineer human nature except by force and even then it wont last long. Best thing is let people gravitate towards communities which share their values. You should be free to try your ideas with like minded individuals and other people should be able to live anyway they feel like. Centralization is evil, it goes against all natural laws, it will inexorably end in the same thing you want to abolish.

The golden rule should be that the freedoms of one end where the freedoms of the other begin. You can't do harm to others to implement your vision of right. Thus the only desirable choice remains a decentralized system which allows folks to redistribute themselves according to compatibility of character and ideology. The big evil of humanity is trying to force their standards onto others by force, let everyone arrive to their own conclusions by their own experience,.
"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

-- Dixon Diaz
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all money is is liquidy... as long as u have an item someone wants there will be greed can we stop with these threads now?
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Great poster, you nailed.

These idealistic folks who think just because they implement their utupia people will suddenly become good and noble are just fucking annoying.

Come back to reality morans.
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren


the reality is most of societies depraved are not born this way they are created. we teach most of what is wrong in the world. we leave millions uneducated or poorly educated...we teach violence, greed, and separatism. we say to children share, share, share but they hear us talk about mine mine mine. its not a utopia i want to force on people...i dont want to force anything...i want to educate people to the fact that a moneyless/barterless society is possible. we have the technology to get us there all we need are the educated masses who are ready for a change...ready to have actual equality for every human.
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There's no equality, some people, if not most, are naturally selfish, you can't re-engineer human nature except by force and even then it wont last long. Best thing is let people gravitate towards communities which share their values. You should be free to try your ideas with like minded individuals and other people should be able to live anyway they feel like. Centralization is evil, it goes against all natural laws, it will inexorably end in the same thing you want to abolish.

The golden rule should be that the freedoms of one end where the freedoms of the other begin. You can't do harm to others to implement your vision of right. Thus the only desirable choice remains a decentralized system which allows folks to redistribute themselves according to compatibility of character and ideology. The big evil of humanity is trying to force their standards onto others by force, let everyone arrive to their own conclusions by their own experience,.
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it really boils down to us not agreeing on one thing...you think we are born this way ...and i think we are taught to be this way.
also you neglect to realize a resource based economy is non violent, there is no force, there is education, there is scientific method. its being able to say this is the best way we see possible to do something and heres the proof but you have the choice to do otherwise. the biggest evil that society perpetuates is separatism...when you look at earth there are no borders these are imaginary lines drawn in the dirt to say im better than you.
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There's just too many idealistic hopeless folks within the masses of mankind, such as to make the work for tyrants much easier. Any unrealistic ideal can be used to sway the emotionally unstable masses any place they wish.

There's a hermetic law which teaches that the wise man is not swayed by the ever swinging pendulum of polarity, but he raises above it and remains unaffected.

Humanity is just too ignorant of truth to understand what really should be done.
"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

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Great poster, you nailed.

These idealistic folks who think just because they implement their utupia people will suddenly become good and noble are just fucking annoying.

Come back to reality morans.
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren


the reality is most of societies depraved are not born this way they are created. we teach most of what is wrong in the world. we leave millions uneducated or poorly educated...we teach violence, greed, and separatism. we say to children share, share, share but they hear us talk about mine mine mine. its not a utopia i want to force on people...i dont want to force anything...i want to educate people to the fact that a moneyless/barterless society is possible. we have the technology to get us there all we need are the educated masses who are ready for a change...ready to have actual equality for every human.
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There's no equality, some people, if not most, are naturally selfish, you can't re-engineer human nature except by force and even then it wont last long. Best thing is let people gravitate towards communities which share their values. You should be free to try your ideas with like minded individuals and other people should be able to live anyway they feel like. Centralization is evil, it goes against all natural laws, it will inexorably end in the same thing you want to abolish.

The golden rule should be that the freedoms of one end where the freedoms of the other begin. You can't do harm to others to implement your vision of right. Thus the only desirable choice remains a decentralized system which allows folks to redistribute themselves according to compatibility of character and ideology. The big evil of humanity is trying to force their standards onto others by force, let everyone arrive to their own conclusions by their own experience,.
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren


it really boils down to us not agreeing on one thing...you think we are born this way ...and i think we are taught to be this way.
also you neglect to realize a resource based economy is non violent, there is no force, there is education, there is scientific method. its being able to say this is the best way we see possible to do something and heres the proof but you have the choice to do otherwise. the biggest evil that society perpetuates is separatism...when you look at earth there are no borders these are imaginary lines drawn in the dirt to say im better than you.
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So what will you do with the substantial amount of people who will always refuse to agree with your views? What if they don't conform to your education and your science?

You see, your premise is flawed from the beginning and it's rooted in the idealistic notion that you can somehow turn everyone into good natured people from your own perspective of what good is.

We are now killing arabs in the middle east for that very reason, they dont agree with our standards of good and dont want to accept being re educated. The CFR and Rothschild think it's worth it to bomb them into submission, I think it's worth to leave everyone alone unless they want to come and force you to accept their own paradigm, then you have a right to defend yourself.

Your utopia is impossible, at least in this dimension of existence. Maybe there's other non material dimensions where you could pull it off, I cant say for sure.
"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

-- Dixon Diaz
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With the barter system, not only can everyone know each other, but they rely on each other to survive. Thus they will not kill each other like what money has done to us. The barter system will keep a good balance in a society and eliminate all the things that are no use to us. No more useless junk and thus will be more environmental friendly. The population will be more in control of their life and not be influenced by the government and banks.

Barter system is not only a good trading method but it will create a caring society as a whole. No more cheating others, what you see is what you'll get. That's the way it should be right at the beginning.
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Actually I agree heartily with this.

This is how it all began. "Money" was just introduced as a way to "even the field" so to speak. To have something that those who are not "local" to have something worth while from a trade.

More and more people are going back to trading services and goods. This is great in my opinion ans everyone gets what they want and there are NO interferences from Big Brother.

People are seeing (waking up) to the fact that our government IS becoming more intrusive and they are not taking it lightly.

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In fact if the system I propose would be implemented, instead of this NWO lunacy, the effect you desire would have a much higher degree of success. A world rooted in mutual respect and good willed commerce would give way to much lesser conflict. It wouldn't be perfect, but perfect doesn't exist here. Even if you would be able to create a perfect world, a natural disaster could destroy it all in one night, thus rendering it imperfect nonetheless.

Stop looking for what isn't there, work with what you have,.
"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

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12/28/2011 08:15 AM
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Re: Let's face it, you can't separate money from greed. The only good trading method is the barter system.
With the barter system, not only can everyone know each other, but they rely on each other to survive. Thus they will not kill each other like what money has done to us. The barter system will keep a good balance in a society and eliminate all the things that are no use to us. No more useless junk and thus will be more environmental friendly. The population will be more in control of their life and not be influenced by the government and banks.

Barter system is not only a good trading method but it will create a caring society as a whole. No more cheating others, what you see is what you'll get. That's the way it should be right at the beginning.
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You are a fucking idiot.
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12/28/2011 08:43 AM
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Re: Let's face it, you can't separate money from greed. The only good trading method is the barter system.
Another moneyless utopia thread...AAARGH!!!!!


No matter how many rational, reasonable, logical replies are presented, reality does not register with these idealists.

I know a guy who spent 11 years in state prison for abducting and robbing an old woman. Was his ultimate goal to take her money? No. He wanted beer. If she had beer his quest would be over. Since she had no beer, he took her money and TRADED it for the beer he wanted.

Money was a means to his ends, just as it is a means to the ends MOST of us pursue.

Anyone who believes a utopia is possible should begin a utopian society on a small scale with like minded people and live your dream. Let the rest of us wallow in our misery. PLEASE.
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12/28/2011 08:48 AM
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Re: Let's face it, you can't separate money from greed. The only good trading method is the barter system.
well people must be re-educated to use barter. People now lack of the necessary expertise.
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Well said. Hopefully, people have been heeding the warnings b/c the time for reeducation is coming quickly.

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