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Mitt Romney, Missouri, Illinois and Mormonism

 
Alesiah
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Mitt Romney, Missouri, Illinois and Mormonism
Some interesting facts looking at now and then, in history.
from Massachusetts is campaigning again for President. He is a Mormon..
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Let's take a trip into the past...
The history link between Missouri, Illinois and mormonism is very interesting.

Through the vision of Joseph Smith, Jr.12/23/1805 – 6/27/1844 founder of the Latter Day Saint movement, believed Missouri to be their proposed Holy Land.
They wanted to make it their headquarters and establish a utopian city called Zion in western Missouri.

Missourian's would have no part in it and expelled them in 1833.
However, they returned to claim the land and then begin the Mormon War in Missouri of 1838.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

was put in place to exterminate them from the state of Missouri.
10,000 were removed and did not begin to return until 25 years later but the Missouri 44 remained on the books until our bicentennial year in 1976, during the 38th US President, when Missouri Governor Kit Bond formally rescinded it.

[link to www.sos.mo.gov]
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
[link to www.newsinhistory.com]
[link to www.whitehouse.gov]

Smith then lived in Illinois and campaigned for President of the United States in 1844.
He believed a theocratic monarchy was the ideal form of government for the United States.
Smith declared he would be one of the instruments in fulfilling Nebuchadnezzar's statue vision in the Book of Daniel and that secular government would be destroyed without "sword or gun",and would be replaced with a theodemocratic Kingdom of God. Smith taught that this kingdom would be multidenominational and democratic.

Smith was killed on 6/27/1844, when an armed mob with blackened faces stormed the Carthage Jail where he was being held. He was shot multiple times before falling out the window, crying "Oh Lord my God!"
He died shortly after hitting the ground where he was nearly decapitated. He was buried in Nauvoo, Illinois.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Weird facts...

1. Our 33rd President was democrat from Missouri. Israel was born..
2. Our 38th President was republican, in office during the bicentennial year of 1976 when the 44 was rescinded by Bond.
3. Our 44th President was democrat, from Illinois.

Information-411:

On 4/11/11
Mitt Romney announced he was forming a presidential exploratory committee.. [link to johnkingusa.blogs.cnn.com]

4 months later:

On 8/11/11


Hummm, what is going on here?

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Re: Mitt Romney, Missouri, Illinois and Mormonism
By the way, I'm not promoting anyone for president at this time. Just researching all the candidates and noticed these weird odd facts that went along with the time-lines in Missouri and Illinois history..

1833-Mormons in Missouri attempting to claim it for Zion.
Our 33rd US President is from Missouri

1838-Missouri 44
Our 38th US President in office when the 1938 order was
rescinded in our year.

1844-Father of Latter Day Saints, Joseph Smith for President, same year killed and buried in Illinois.
Our 44th President moved from Illinois.

The Mormons made their home base in Utah after leaving Illinois and Missouri.
So let's look to Utah to see how their state did compared to the rest of the nation.

Now wouldn't it just top this weirdness off, if our 45th President was Mormon??
Knowing Utah, is the 45th State of the Union...

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Interesting. knew they were no good. if only we could drive them out again, lol.
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Re: Mitt Romney, Missouri, Illinois and Mormonism
Reason the mormons came back to missouri was probably due to the civil war. during that time the govt of missouri was replaced.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Reason the came back to missouri was probably due to the civil war. during that time the govt of missouri was replaced.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7609949


Yes, good point and remember southern Utah in 9/11/1857!!!!

The Mountain Meadows massacre culminated on
September 11, 1857.

Mormon's disguised as Native Americans attacked and killed California bound, Arkansas families totaling 120 men women and children. The interruption by the American Civil War, resulted in only nine indictments during 1874 for this act..
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

144 years between this event and our 09/11/2001 event.
[link to www.timeanddate.com]

Utah became a state on January 4,1896 and was the 45th state of the United States.
Yes, wouldn't it be weird if our 45th President was Mitt Romney, a Mormon...

Read more: [link to wiki.answers.com]

Research:
Joseph Smith's doctrine of 1830s, to 1842.
You can read about the Nauvoo endowment included an elaborate ceremony containing elements similar to Freemasonry and the Jewish tradition of Kabbalah.

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What type of government and Presidency was Joseph Smith campaigning for?

It's called Theodemocracy..

[link to bycommonconsent.com]
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Re: Mitt Romney, Missouri, Illinois and Mormonism
By the way, I'm not promoting anyone for president at this time. Just researching all the candidates and noticed these weird odd facts that went along with the time-lines in Missouri and Illinois history..

1833-Mormons in Missouri attempting to claim it for Zion.
Our 33rd US President is from Missouri

1838-Missouri 44
Our 38th US President in office when the 1938 order was
rescinded in our year.

1844-Father of Latter Day Saints, Joseph Smith for President, same year killed and buried in Illinois.
Our 44th President moved from Illinois.

The Mormons made their home base in Utah after leaving Illinois and Missouri.
So let's look to Utah to see how their state did compared to the rest of the nation.

Now wouldn't it just top this weirdness off, if our 45th President was Mormon??
Knowing Utah, is the 45th State of the Union...
 Quoting: Alesiah


let us not forget all the feel good commercials about folks who are mormons his camp is why they are running
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Ha! Please...
They are ALL puppets....
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Ron Paul has my vote, but a Mormon president would be better than a Muslim one!

Interesting facts, and good research.
No trees were killed in the sending of this message, however a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
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I wanna know why Mitty has over 400 Million in the Vatican bank.
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I noticed many 'I AM A MORMON' ads on TV and billboards lately...anyone else?
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Ron Paul has my vote, but a president would be better than a Muslim one!

Interesting facts, and good research.
 Quoting: Missouri Foxtrotter


Even my son is going to vote for Ron..
I told him Ron was running back when he was born...LOL
I'm still researching...

What do you know about Mormons???
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I noticed many 'I AM A ' ads on TV and billboards lately...anyone else?
 Quoting: LA-LA-LA


It's not popular here, so I haven't seen any Billboards..

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Mitt Romney birth chart:

[link to www.astrotheme.com]


As you know Joseph Smith was trying to claim Missouri land for the new Zion in 1833-1844.

However, the new Zion was created with jointing efforts of our 33rd President in the Middle East, bout 104 years later..

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Re: Mitt Romney, Missouri, Illinois and Mormonism
I dug up something else about Mormonism.

Easter: April 3rd 1836, Nissan 16 in the Hebrew Calendar was very significant to them concerning prophecy.
Easter,April 3rd and Nissan 16 didn't happen again until 1988, 152 years later..
It doesn't happen again in our life time.
Next time is: 4/3/2140.
[link to www.assa.org.au]
4/3/2140=Nissan 16
[link to www.chabad.org]

Links to Joseph Smith and the Easter, April 3rd, Nissan 16th connection:
[link to www.lds.org]

[link to www.lds.org]

[link to www.lds.org]

[link to josephsmith.net]

The only thing significant I could find for 4/3/1988 was the construction of the 8th Temple in Utah..

After considering numerous sites for the temple, the final decision was made on April 3, 1988, by the First Presidency of the Mormon Church.
Four years later in May of 1992, the groundbreaking took place, and on January 8, 1992,
President Howard W. Hunter dedicated the Bountiful Utah Mormon Temple. Two hundred thousand members of the Mormon Church attended the dedicatory sessions, more than had ever before attended the dedication of a Mormon Temple.
[link to mormontemples.com]

OMG, Lotta money invested in those LDS Temples.


What is the First Presidency in the LDS?
[link to www.mormonwiki.com]

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Stop being a total dick and bagging out a man because of his religion, Most of what is put out there as facts is utter bull.
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Stop being a total dick and bagging out a man because of his religion, Most of what is put out there as facts is utter bull.
 Quoting: grasptheuniverse


You are in Australia? Funny Dude..

Well, I guess you don't have to worry bout the fact Mitt's prophet was slaughtered in your area, or an 'Extermination Order' lifted on Mormons less than 36 years ago in your state. Hmmmm?

What will the out-come be: Let bygones be bygones?
Or will it be "revenge is mine." if a Mormon becomes President.

We'll,see what happens in the Mid-West.
Does the President have any power?

Look what happened with Bush Jr/Bush Sr..
The 9/11 happened and the Bush administration attacked Afghanistan.. BUT the wrath turned to Iraq 3/20/03. Why?
1991 conflict between Bush Sr and Saddam/Iraq????

The insult of the shoe..

An 18-storey Al-Rashid hotel in Baghdad was known for its mosaic tiles installed in the foyer, depicting George HW Bush. Tiles – a portrait of former U.S. president with an expression of surprise is made on the floor to the entrance to the hotel to make any visitor to walk on his face.

After the invasion of Iraq, the mosaic was destroyed by U.S. soldiers.

[link to iraqpictures.org]

The troops destroyed it in 2003 and the face of Saddam replaced the face of Bush.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]


What was that!!!.... Some unfinished business????
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"Mitt" "Mormon" Romney credited with 800,000 "votes" in Florida although less than 5,000 "people" voted for him

why do you see 1 out of 100,000 people with a sign (sticker, etc) supporting Romney?
Why nobody knows about any Romney supporters?
Why are half of the 300 "people" celebrating "Mitt"'s "victory" in Florida the same zombie faces we saw in Iowa, the same paid personel charred from state to state?

Answer:
Romney has never attracted a "crowd" larger than 300 (paid employees). Ron Paul's loser role in the primaries is to legitimate the electronic fraud, attracting people to cast their "votes", avoiding the situation of no people showing up to "vote".
Reminder: in 2008 McCain never attracted a "crowd" larger than 2,200 until Palin joined, reaching than a 14,000 crowd in California.
He had less than 5 million votes and was credited with 58 million "votes".
Ron Paul's role is to convince the human cattle that voting machine software is honest
US "elections" = electronic farse = software "counting" votes of human cattle
[link to www.google.com]
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Well you really are a total fruit loop You dont even know what you are talking about. You say that Mitts prophet was slaughtered in my area. Are you on strong meds, what does that even have to do with anything. You are anti any religion that you dont agree with. You are picking on someone that you personally do not like and you are hoping he doesnt get to be president. I hope that you get a mormon president.
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Hello Alesiah,


Here is some more fun info for you-


"Mitt’s grandfather, Gaskell Romney, was NOT a United States citizen when he fled to Mexico because Utah was not yet a state. In contrast to many territories, when Utah BECAME a state, those living there had to APPLY for U.S. Citizenship. Since Gaskell LEFT the TERRITORY and was living in Mexico at the time of Utah’s statehood, he could NOT have been a U.S. Citizen.

George Romney is the key to the eligibility of Mitt Romney. George came back to the United States at the age of 5 with his mother. Having been born on MEXICAN soil to parents who were NOT at the time, United States citizens, George should have been considered a citizen of Mexico.

George Romney could have applied for U.S. citizenship at the age of 21 but…Did he?

That’s the question"


Read more:
[link to www.thenationalpatriot.com]



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Well you really are a total fruit loop You dont even know what you are talking about. You say that Mitts prophet was slaughtered in my area. Are you on strong meds, what does that even have to do with anything. You are anti any religion that you dont agree with. You are picking on someone that you personally do not like and you are hoping he doesnt get to be president. I hope that you get a mormon president.
 Quoting: grasptheuniverse


Re-read my post to you.
It says:
Well, I guess you don't have to worry bout the fact Mitt's prophet was slaughtered in your area, or an 'Extermination Order' lifted on Mormons less than 36 years ago in your state. Hmmmm?


As you can see, I'm talking about my area..
I'm the one concerned. You don't have to worry because you don't even live in the US......
I got outta religion along time ago. I just study it now.
BTW, 1/3 of my family are Mormon and that's why I know these things.

IC4U

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i'm surrounded by mormons... and they are without a doubt the nicest people i know.

and i'm an atheist who is embarrassed by those who share my belief.

pretty weird, huh?
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Hello Alesiah,


Here is some more fun info for you-


"Mitt’s grandfather, Gaskell Romney, was NOT a United States citizen when he fled to Mexico because Utah was not yet a state. In contrast to many territories, when Utah BECAME a state, those living there had to APPLY for U.S. Citizenship. Since Gaskell LEFT the TERRITORY and was living in Mexico at the time of Utah’s statehood, he could NOT have been a U.S. Citizen.

George Romney is the key to the eligibility of Mitt Romney. George came back to the United States at the age of 5 with his mother. Having been born on MEXICAN soil to parents who were NOT at the time, United States citizens, George should have been considered a citizen of Mexico.

George Romney could have applied for U.S. citizenship at the age of 21 but…Did he?

That’s the question"


Read more:
[link to www.thenationalpatriot.com]



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 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051


Thanks Daniel, that is some cool info. Kinda goes along with some research I'm doing..
I don't personally have anything against Mitt but it will be Mitt vs Obama.. It's just how the numbers fall.
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"Mitt" "Mormon" Romney credited with 800,000 "votes" in Florida although less than 5,000 "people" voted for him

why do you see 1 out of 100,000 people with a sign (sticker, etc) supporting Romney?
Why nobody knows about any Romney supporters?
Why are half of the 300 "people" celebrating "Mitt"'s "victory" in Florida the same zombie faces we saw in Iowa, the same paid personel charred from state to state?

Answer:
Romney has never attracted a "crowd" larger than 300 (paid employees). Ron Paul's loser role in the primaries is to legitimate the electronic fraud, attracting people to cast their "votes", avoiding the situation of no people showing up to "vote".
Reminder: in 2008 McCain never attracted a "crowd" larger than 2,200 until Palin joined, reaching than a 14,000 crowd in California.
He had less than 5 million votes and was credited with 58 million "votes".
Ron Paul's role is to convince the human cattle that voting machine software is honest
US "elections" = electronic farse = software "counting" votes of human cattle
[link to www.google.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14616278


Who do the elite want in office now, Mitt or Obama and why?
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i'm surrounded by mormons... and they are without a doubt the nicest people i know.

and i'm an atheist who is embarrassed by those who share my belief.

pretty weird, huh?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13297298


I'm surrounded by them too because some of my closest family are LDS members,Aunt,Uncle, cousins.. My employer is a Mormon as well. A very fine man.
However,I've studied Mormonism and Christians would be blown away by it..

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