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We come from the ocean.

 
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We belong to the air !!

We are descendants of the Son of Air !

Water cannot win over Air !
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All life that we see evolved as micro biological organisms in the sea.

Makes ya think, it we have developed this far, who's to say there's not intelligent life in our oceans? We know jack about them!
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Exactly!

But we do know that octopi and cuttlefish, etc. are extremely intelligent (by our standards).

Wouldn't it be much easier to explore the core and depths of the earth via water rather than mining on land? I know the pressure is extremely intense, but it would seem that if we studied water-vascular systems we could easily innovate and proceed to explore.

I think there may be vast underwater caves with oxygen trapped within them.
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How do you think the Tree of Life works if I might ask you?
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The Tree is a roadmap to universal consciousness.

It is all about the relationship of angles (angels) to one another as part of creation relating to itself.

It is the design of the cosmos repeated infinitely throughout the micro--there is nothing that does not adhere to this design except for the Nameless, Innocence.
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Well you won't see me near an ocean as I have a phobia of sharks...tissue
The truth is in your eyes.....

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of this fiber-optic nation
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The Tree is a roadmap to universal consciousness.

It is all about the relationship of angles (angels) to one another as part of creation relating to itself.

It is the design of the cosmos repeated infinitely throughout the micro--there is nothing that does not adhere to this design except for the Nameless, Innocence.
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Are you able to look at things....without injection of your own beliefs?....Able to stay neutral without question for a period of time...to consider other routes and meanings?

Asking for a truly honest answer...
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The Tree is a roadmap to universal consciousness.

It is all about the relationship of angles (angels) to one another as part of creation relating to itself.

It is the design of the cosmos repeated infinitely throughout the micro--there is nothing that does not adhere to this design except for the Nameless, Innocence.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


Are you able to look at things....without injection of your own beliefs?....Able to stay neutral without question for a period of time...to consider other routes and meanings?

Asking for a truly honest answer...
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No, and I'm not sure that anyone is capable of doing this given the right brain encodes information through feeling and emotion. It is a biofeedback system within which the left brain is a mirror of the right, but playback occurs in verbal/thought form.

I cannot escape meaning, so neutrality doesn't occur.
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The Incredible Mr. Limpet

Henry Limpet: Doesn't it kind of give you a thrill of hope, George?

George Stickel: Hope for what, Henry?

Henry Limpet: Well, with the war in Europe and new weapons being invented all the time, why, what if men were actually foolish enough to destroy themselves completely? Then, you see, the fish in the ocean would develop into a new race of men, and, well, this time they might turn out better, you see?
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Great film. I love the message about finding one's true nature.
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I Resonate To Dolphins

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The Tree is a roadmap to universal consciousness.

It is all about the relationship of angles (angels) to one another as part of creation relating to itself.

It is the design of the cosmos repeated infinitely throughout the micro--there is nothing that does not adhere to this design except for the Nameless, Innocence.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


Are you able to look at things....without injection of your own beliefs?....Able to stay neutral without question for a period of time...to consider other routes and meanings?

Asking for a truly honest answer...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3142324


No, and I'm not sure that anyone is capable of doing this given the right brain encodes information through feeling and emotion. It is a biofeedback system within which the left brain is a mirror of the right, but playback occurs in verbal/thought form.

I cannot escape meaning, so neutrality doesn't occur.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


Thinking outside the BOX....is it possible there's actually a reason for FEAR as a tool?...and thank you for letting me ask you these questions.

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The Tree is a roadmap to universal consciousness.

It is all about the relationship of angles (angels) to one another as part of creation relating to itself.

It is the design of the cosmos repeated infinitely throughout the micro--there is nothing that does not adhere to this design except for the Nameless, Innocence.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


Are you able to look at things....without injection of your own beliefs?....Able to stay neutral without question for a period of time...to consider other routes and meanings?

Asking for a truly honest answer...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3142324


No, and I'm not sure that anyone is capable of doing this given the right brain encodes information through feeling and emotion. It is a biofeedback system within which the left brain is a mirror of the right, but playback occurs in verbal/thought form.

I cannot escape meaning, so neutrality doesn't occur.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


Thinking outside the BOX....is it possible there's actually a reason for FEAR as a tool?...and thank you for letting me ask you these questions.


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Yes, fear is a tool for remembering.

I find it interesting that people are so afraid of the dark. And often sitting in the dark, when fear arises, I ask myself why? And the answer I get is because it is the unknown. It is not the unknown that we fear exactly, but our projection of something into the unknown, ie. a creepy hand or something of that sort.

So I guess if it had a purpose, that purpose would be to reveal to us what is there in our own intimate unknown (subconscious) selves.

Thank you for the thought-provoking questions.

Might I ask what this has to do with water and/or the ocean?
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Are you able to look at things....without injection of your own beliefs?....Able to stay neutral without question for a period of time...to consider other routes and meanings?

Asking for a truly honest answer...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3142324


No, and I'm not sure that anyone is capable of doing this given the right brain encodes information through feeling and emotion. It is a biofeedback system within which the left brain is a mirror of the right, but playback occurs in verbal/thought form.

I cannot escape meaning, so neutrality doesn't occur.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


Thinking outside the BOX....is it possible there's actually a reason for FEAR as a tool?...and thank you for letting me ask you these questions.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3142324


Yes, fear is a tool for remembering.

I find it interesting that people are so afraid of the dark. And often sitting in the dark, when fear arises, I ask myself why? And the answer I get is because it is the unknown. It is not the unknown that we fear exactly, but our projection of something into the unknown, ie. a creepy hand or something of that sort.

So I guess if it had a purpose, that purpose would be to reveal to us what is there in our own intimate unknown (subconscious) selves.

Thank you for the thought-provoking questions.

Might I ask what this has to do with water and/or the ocean?
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


Molecular geometry or molecular structure is the three-dimensional arrangement of the atoms that constitute a molecule. It determines several properties of a substance including its reactivity, polarity, phase of matter, color, magnetism, and biological activity.

The Bond has FLEX! something most don't understand.

[link to en.wikipedia.org] Flip it around, it's the top of the Tree of Life.....Just talking for now and thinking with you....in only tiny parts.
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Re: We come from the ocean.
It's a calculator if you know how it moves in parts or as a whole....as single or Plural.

There's 3 Tree of Life...middle one being BINARY.
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FEAR causes chemical reaction within the BODY....The BODY is mostly WATER as you know.
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I cannot escape meaning, so neutrality doesn't occur.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession

some traditions tried hard, eg. regard zen-culture in light of Lao Tse's Tao Teh King.

regard tabula rasa: a bullshit theory in my opinion but admittedly a blank slate beginning could benefit psychological growth.

many religions condemn judging. i think for a good reason. every relation you wire in your head, validates it?

neutral observation is impossible (eg., you collapse the wavefunction anyway), but you can try not to attach something to observation. a blank mind is a good receiver.

meaning is overrated. it doesn't change things in yourself or in the outside world. it just creates complexity and opposites. meaning is not insight.

but i'm just ranting again... so let me spout about oceans:


some say that water is a universal solvent, a cleaning agent.
same goes up for mud/clay, which essentialy is erosion from a very distant past...
same goes up for very fine dust (eg. ash)...

we are largely water inside
some say we were built of clay
and we definitely are stardust

mud is the middle road mixture of water and dust...

We are now, but we land people came first from the water.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession

we got out of water once before in evolution, but we went back in... (i'm serious). why would that have happened here on earth?


I think there may be vast underwater caves with oxygen trapped within them.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession

all oceans are just like a drop on the crust, and that crust is thick enough to contain many wonders.
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Clay, Mud, dirt is only a personification towards an action in the Tree of Life.....Something else you people screwed up.
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Clay, Mud, dirt is only a personification towards an action in the Tree of Life.....Something else you people screwed up.
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You also have to know what Tree the action is taking place on....to produce the personification.
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No, and I'm not sure that anyone is capable of doing this given the right brain encodes information through feeling and emotion. It is a biofeedback system within which the left brain is a mirror of the right, but playback occurs in verbal/thought form.

I cannot escape meaning, so neutrality doesn't occur.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


Thinking outside the BOX....is it possible there's actually a reason for FEAR as a tool?...and thank you for letting me ask you these questions.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3142324


Yes, fear is a tool for remembering.

I find it interesting that people are so afraid of the dark. And often sitting in the dark, when fear arises, I ask myself why? And the answer I get is because it is the unknown. It is not the unknown that we fear exactly, but our projection of something into the unknown, ie. a creepy hand or something of that sort.

So I guess if it had a purpose, that purpose would be to reveal to us what is there in our own intimate unknown (subconscious) selves.

Thank you for the thought-provoking questions.

Might I ask what this has to do with water and/or the ocean?
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


Molecular geometry or molecular structure is the three-dimensional arrangement of the atoms that constitute a molecule. It determines several properties of a substance including its reactivity, polarity, phase of matter, color, magnetism, and biological activity.

The Bond has FLEX! something most don't understand.

[link to en.wikipedia.org] Flip it around, it's the top of the Tree of Life.....Just talking for now and thinking with you....in only tiny parts.
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Interesting.

Perhaps water is the ultimate mirror.
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Clay, Mud, dirt is only a personification towards an action in the Tree of Life.....Something else you people screwed up.
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You also have to know what Tree the action is taking place on....to produce the personification.
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Yes, because there are two "sides" to every sphere, ie. polar exchange.

It explains why the Egyptian pantheon included male and female versions of each diefication (sphere).
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I cannot escape meaning, so neutrality doesn't occur.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession

some traditions tried hard, eg. regard zen-culture in light of Lao Tse's Tao Teh King.

regard tabula rasa: a bullshit theory in my opinion but admittedly a blank slate beginning could benefit psychological growth.

many religions condemn judging. i think for a good reason. every relation you wire in your head, validates it?

neutral observation is impossible (eg., you collapse the wavefunction anyway), but you can try not to attach something to observation. a blank mind is a good receiver.

meaning is overrated. it doesn't change things in yourself or in the outside world. it just creates complexity and opposites. meaning is not insight.

but i'm just ranting again... so let me spout about oceans:


some say that water is a universal solvent, a cleaning agent.
same goes up for mud/clay, which essentialy is erosion from a very distant past...
same goes up for very fine dust (eg. ash)...

we are largely water inside
some say we were built of clay
and we definitely are stardust

mud is the middle road mixture of water and dust...

We are now, but we land people came first from the water.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession

we got out of water once before in evolution, but we went back in... (i'm serious). why would that have happened here on earth?


I think there may be vast underwater caves with oxygen trapped within them.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession

all oceans are just like a drop on the crust, and that crust is thick enough to contain many wonders.
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Went back in?

Please tell me more.

I can only think of one reason we will have done this, because the environment outside of the water became caustic.
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Thinking outside the BOX....is it possible there's actually a reason for FEAR as a tool?...and thank you for letting me ask you these questions.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3142324


Yes, fear is a tool for remembering.

I find it interesting that people are so afraid of the dark. And often sitting in the dark, when fear arises, I ask myself why? And the answer I get is because it is the unknown. It is not the unknown that we fear exactly, but our projection of something into the unknown, ie. a creepy hand or something of that sort.

So I guess if it had a purpose, that purpose would be to reveal to us what is there in our own intimate unknown (subconscious) selves.

Thank you for the thought-provoking questions.

Might I ask what this has to do with water and/or the ocean?
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


Molecular geometry or molecular structure is the three-dimensional arrangement of the atoms that constitute a molecule. It determines several properties of a substance including its reactivity, polarity, phase of matter, color, magnetism, and biological activity.

The Bond has FLEX! something most don't understand.

[link to en.wikipedia.org] Flip it around, it's the top of the Tree of Life.....Just talking for now and thinking with you....in only tiny parts.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3142324


Interesting.

Perhaps water is the ultimate mirror.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


O = 8 and more in symbolism.
H = 1 and more in symbolism.
H = 1 and more in symbolism.
H20 = 10

Tree of Life = 10
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

You need to take YOURSELF out of it.....Keep it neutral...It's why you people can't see....Your ego's
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Does it make sense to you what I said?
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Does it make sense to you what I said?
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You have to let go...to see.
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I cannot escape meaning, so neutrality doesn't occur.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession

some traditions tried hard, eg. regard zen-culture in light of Lao Tse's Tao Teh King.

regard tabula rasa: a bullshit theory in my opinion but admittedly a blank slate beginning could benefit psychological growth.

many religions condemn judging. i think for a good reason. every relation you wire in your head, validates it?

neutral observation is impossible (eg., you collapse the wavefunction anyway), but you can try not to attach something to observation. a blank mind is a good receiver.

meaning is overrated. it doesn't change things in yourself or in the outside world. it just creates complexity and opposites. meaning is not insight.

but i'm just ranting again... so let me spout about oceans:


some say that water is a universal solvent, a cleaning agent.
same goes up for mud/clay, which essentialy is erosion from a very distant past...
same goes up for very fine dust (eg. ash)...

we are largely water inside
some say we were built of clay
and we definitely are stardust

mud is the middle road mixture of water and dust...

We are now, but we land people came first from the water.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession

we got out of water once before in evolution, but we went back in... (i'm serious). why would that have happened here on earth?


I think there may be vast underwater caves with oxygen trapped within them.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession

all oceans are just like a drop on the crust, and that crust is thick enough to contain many wonders.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6993819


Went back in?

Please tell me more.

I can only think of one reason we will have done this, because the environment outside of the water became caustic.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


Never mind.
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Does it make sense to you what I said?
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Yes, it is the same reason the zodiac does not include the earth as a planet--because what is being viewed is everything in relation to it.

If my dreams are any indication, I think I am still in the process of "dying" to my ego. I keep getting the option to die by choice in them.
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I cannot escape meaning, so neutrality doesn't occur.
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some traditions tried hard, eg. regard zen-culture in light of Lao Tse's Tao Teh King.

regard tabula rasa: a bullshit theory in my opinion but admittedly a blank slate beginning could benefit psychological growth.

many religions condemn judging. i think for a good reason. every relation you wire in your head, validates it?

neutral observation is impossible (eg., you collapse the wavefunction anyway), but you can try not to attach something to observation. a blank mind is a good receiver.

meaning is overrated. it doesn't change things in yourself or in the outside world. it just creates complexity and opposites. meaning is not insight.

but i'm just ranting again... so let me spout about oceans:


some say that water is a universal solvent, a cleaning agent.
same goes up for mud/clay, which essentialy is erosion from a very distant past...
same goes up for very fine dust (eg. ash)...

we are largely water inside
some say we were built of clay
and we definitely are stardust

mud is the middle road mixture of water and dust...

We are now, but we land people came first from the water.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession

we got out of water once before in evolution, but we went back in... (i'm serious). why would that have happened here on earth?


I think there may be vast underwater caves with oxygen trapped within them.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession

all oceans are just like a drop on the crust, and that crust is thick enough to contain many wonders.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6993819


Went back in?

Please tell me more.

I can only think of one reason we will have done this, because the environment outside of the water became caustic.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


Never mind.
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Perhaps we missed our original home?
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All life that we see evolved as micro biological organisms in the sea.

Makes ya think, it we have developed this far, who's to say there's not intelligent life in our oceans? We know jack about them!
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At best the fossil record is staggeringly inconsistant. That first line, if you care to be honest, is a major assumption.


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Does it make sense to you what I said?
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You have to let go...to see.
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Please be patient with "us people".

hf
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Just agitated today.....sorry....maybe later.
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Just agitated today.....sorry....maybe later.
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Agitation.

Are you agitated by your own inability to convey an idea, or agitated by the ineptitude of your audience?

Maybe a bit of both.

Later.

hf

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