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How do you express something that cannot be verbalized?

 
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You can cause you pheromones to emit a particular smell that expresses your desire. You can do this by mentally imagining what you want, then don't wash for a few days. The message will float on the air.
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That is genius!

But I can't go a day without a bath or shower.

How about simply donning the same outfit?
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hmm, I dunno, it takes practice too..firstly for your brain to realise what you want it to do, and then getting thre imagry right. Good luck!
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What about not knowing what you want exactly?

I mean, if we want something better than we could ever imagine--how does one go about imagining that?
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You have to have a clear idea about what you want, and I must ad that your body is creating pheromones according to your wishes without you knowing it, like if you wanted sex then that message is created, most of us emit that pheromone constantly. If you wanted love however then that is at best ambiguous and at worst impossible. You may imagine yourself in that situation, for we all inherently love our selves, mostly. That resultant pheromone will be very attractive to all people and even animals because it is altruistic and pure. But it is hard, and mostly easier to lead a good life and want pure things and the pheromones you create will come without training your body to express its desire through its smell.

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Re: How do you express something that cannot be verbalized?
Write it.

If you can't verbalize it... write it.

...unless what you really meant was being "unable to put words to a feeling" then um... no idea what to tell you.
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Yeah, that's what I meant.

I just have the urge to swim, be immersed.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


"I just have the urge to swim, be immersed."

lol... didn't you just put the feeling to words by saying that?
 Quoting: Roentgen®


Well, that is accompanying something much more...inexpressible. But I feel as though relief can be had from swimming, immersion in water.

My thoughts have been floating in a tidepool for a while now.
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Sounds to me like you seek the feeling of being disconnected from something/someone... like you're seeking solace in the quiet.
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Re: How do you express something that cannot be verbalized?
Let's say you're so mystified by the beauty of existence, that you've fallen in love with it.

Having seen some reason to the design, moments of clarity, and knowing that it is all just as it is, perfectly and yet infinitely Golden like Phi, for a perfect reason.

Saying you're gracious, or thankful is not enough to express the feeling. Wanting more is so vastly--more--than saying anything, or verbalizing a thought in language whatsoever.

I've fallen in love with...the Unspeakable. The Experiencer seduced by the Unknown.

I cannot get enough of the adventure.

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That is genius!

But I can't go a day without a bath or shower.

How about simply donning the same outfit?
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


hmm, I dunno, it takes practice too..firstly for your brain to realise what you want it to do, and then getting thre imagry right. Good luck!
 Quoting: Baba Cha


What about not knowing what you want exactly?

I mean, if we want something better than we could ever imagine--how does one go about imagining that?
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


You have to have a clear idea about what you want, and I must ad that your body is creating pheromones according to your wishes without you knowing it, like if you wanted sex then that message is created, most of us emit that pheromone constantly. If you wanted love however then that is at best ambiguous and at worst impossible. You may imagine yourself in that situation, for we all inherently love our selves, mostly. That resultant pheromone will be very attractive to all people and even animals because it is altruistic and pure. But it is hard, and mostly easier to lead a good life and want pure things and the pheromones you create will come without training your body to express its desire through its smell.
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I do have an idea about what I want, but at the same time I don't wish to be limited by my ability to conceive. I feel alright with the specifics of most things, and I'm sure my pheromones emit accordingly.

Sex is easily gotten through verbalization, among other things. Intimacy is something altogether different.

I want to experience more, that's for sure. To know more about our human identity as it was made to be--not just what we're told and/or tell ourselves continually.

I want an adventure into our collective psyche, the hidden one beneath the ocean.

IDK, I'm fucking weird.
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Paint, Music, Dance, make love.
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Let's say you're so mystified by the beauty of existence, that you've fallen in love with it.

Having seen some reason to the design, moments of clarity, and knowing that it is all just as it is, perfectly and yet infinitely Golden like Phi, for a perfect reason.

Saying you're gracious, or thankful is not enough to express the feeling. Wanting more is so vastly--more--than saying anything, or verbalizing a thought in language whatsoever.

I've fallen in love with...the Unspeakable. The Experiencer seduced by the Unknown.

I cannot get enough of the adventure.


 Quoting: SecondPrecession


I know EXACTLY what you mean. It's like trying to describes a great feeling or emotion while I'm tripping. When I try to use words I just laugh. I can talk about other stuff, but those strong emotions that you can't use words to describe... just makes me laugh hysterically.

Ever try mushrooms? I bet that's what you need.
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Expression from the right brain.

It's deep.

It's feeling.

It cannot be verbalized, and yet needs expression.

How do we do this?

I'm going to turn off all the lights, get naked and burn incense while lying in the tub.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


You get naked before you get in the tub? I think this World is definitely going crazy.. : P
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Get really baked, then take a hot yoga class.
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Let's say you're so mystified by the beauty of existence, that you've fallen in love with it.

Having seen some reason to the design, moments of clarity, and knowing that it is all just as it is, perfectly and yet infinitely Golden like Phi, for a perfect reason.

Saying you're gracious, or thankful is not enough to express the feeling. Wanting more is so vastly--more--than saying anything, or verbalizing a thought in language whatsoever.

I've fallen in love with...the Unspeakable. The Experiencer seduced by the Unknown.

I cannot get enough of the adventure.


 Quoting: SecondPrecession


I know EXACTLY what you mean. It's like trying to describes a great feeling or emotion while I'm tripping. When I try to use words I just laugh. I can talk about other stuff, but those strong emotions that you can't use words to describe... just makes me laugh hysterically.

Ever try mushrooms? I bet that's what you need.
 Quoting: Trainspotter


I have this emotion and feeling without tripping, and it needs expression. Sometimes I laugh whilst crying for the sheer joy of it, lol. It's as though I simply cannot express it any other way, like my mind and body don't know how.

But I want to dig deeper than that, and bring up something more than tears of joy and laughter. I want to understand this existence, intimately.
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Let's say you're so mystified by the beauty of existence, that you've fallen in love with it.

Having seen some reason to the design, moments of clarity, and knowing that it is all just as it is, perfectly and yet infinitely Golden like Phi, for a perfect reason.

Saying you're gracious, or thankful is not enough to express the feeling. Wanting more is so vastly--more--than saying anything, or verbalizing a thought in language whatsoever.

I've fallen in love with...the Unspeakable. The Experiencer seduced by the Unknown.

I cannot get enough of the adventure.


 Quoting: SecondPrecession


I know EXACTLY what you mean. It's like trying to describes a great feeling or emotion while I'm tripping. When I try to use words I just laugh. I can talk about other stuff, but those strong emotions that you can't use words to describe... just makes me laugh hysterically.

Ever try mushrooms? I bet that's what you need.
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I have this emotion and feeling without tripping, and it needs expression. Sometimes I laugh whilst crying for the sheer joy of it, lol. It's as though I simply cannot express it any other way, like my mind and body don't know how.

But I want to dig deeper than that, and bring up something more than tears of joy and laughter. I want to understand this existence, intimately.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


I have it without tripping too. Mushrooms just help to explore it. I haven't found a way to express it either. Just wanted to let you know you're not alone, but we are very few...
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Let's say you're so mystified by the beauty of existence, that you've fallen in love with it.

Having seen some reason to the design, moments of clarity, and knowing that it is all just as it is, perfectly and yet infinitely Golden like Phi, for a perfect reason.

Saying you're gracious, or thankful is not enough to express the feeling. Wanting more is so vastly--more--than saying anything, or verbalizing a thought in language whatsoever.

I've fallen in love with...the Unspeakable. The Experiencer seduced by the Unknown.

I cannot get enough of the adventure.


 Quoting: SecondPrecession


I know EXACTLY what you mean. It's like trying to describes a great feeling or emotion while I'm tripping. When I try to use words I just laugh. I can talk about other stuff, but those strong emotions that you can't use words to describe... just makes me laugh hysterically.

Ever try mushrooms? I bet that's what you need.
 Quoting: Trainspotter


I have this emotion and feeling without tripping, and it needs expression. Sometimes I laugh whilst crying for the sheer joy of it, lol. It's as though I simply cannot express it any other way, like my mind and body don't know how.

But I want to dig deeper than that, and bring up something more than tears of joy and laughter. I want to understand this existence, intimately.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


I have it without tripping too. Mushrooms just help to explore it. I haven't found a way to express it either. Just wanted to let you know you're not alone, but we are very few...
 Quoting: Trainspotter


Thanks.

I guess some things are just meant to be, and not necessarily be understood. There is always another level of depth to the Unknown, and I guess Experience is that staircase that gets us there.
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Re: How do you express something that cannot be verbalized?
Expression from the right brain.

It's deep.

It's feeling.

It cannot be verbalized, and yet needs expression.

How do we do this?

I'm going to turn off all the lights, get naked and burn incense while lying in the tub.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


You can cause you pheromones to emit a particular smell that expresses your desire. You can do this by mentally imagining what you want, then don't wash for a few days. The message will float on the air.
 Quoting: Baba Cha


In addition, those pheromones are emitted as well as the energy of your very powerful intentions, whether you can find words for them or not, feel what you feel, with as much intention as possible, keep it positive or things will get difficult... mentally imagine what you want, see yourself having it, want it... deliberately... your energy emmissions are far more powerful than anything a shower a day can wash away... if its love, then love with all your heart... If this is a feeling you have toward another that you can not express, consciously feel that whatever it is and look into that persons eyes, they will see it, they will feel it! You look kinda young to be teasing these fellas on here with all the bath and vibrator talk... just saying
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Re: How do you express something that cannot be verbalized?
Expression from the right brain.

It's deep.

It's feeling.

It cannot be verbalized, and yet needs expression.

How do we do this?

I'm going to turn off all the lights, get naked and burn incense while lying in the tub.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


Don't forget the vibrator!

tomato
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That's what fingers, hands and fists are for silly!! yawn
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Re: How do you express something that cannot be verbalized?
Expression from the right brain.

It's deep.

It's feeling.

It cannot be verbalized, and yet needs expression.

How do we do this?

I'm going to turn off all the lights, get naked and burn incense while lying in the tub.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


You can cause you pheromones to emit a particular smell that expresses your desire. You can do this by mentally imagining what you want, then don't wash for a few days. The message will float on the air.
 Quoting: Baba Cha


In addition, those pheromones are emitted as well as the energy of your very powerful intentions, whether you can find words for them or not, feel what you feel, with as much intention as possible, keep it positive or things will get difficult... mentally imagine what you want, see yourself having it, want it... deliberately... your energy emmissions are far more powerful than anything a shower a day can wash away... if its love, then love with all your heart... If this is a feeling you have toward another that you can not express, consciously feel that whatever it is and look into that persons eyes, they will see it, they will feel it! You look kinda young to be teasing these fellas on here with all the bath and vibrator talk... just saying
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Lol, I am 34, and the vibrator thingy was not my idea, not really my style either.

I did take a bath in the dark with some incense.

I think too many people are afraid of the unknown, and so they avoid it.

Others allow the darkness or unknown to be defined for them--ie., bad, evil, etc.

It occurred to me in the bath that this is the time of year when the Northern hemisphere of the earth is darkened, cold and re-moisturizing itself. Hence, the signs of the Sea-Goat, Aquarius and Pisces--a time to go deeper into the subconscious. By the time spring equinox comes, I will have planted the proper seeds to bear fruit by fall.

But until then, I want to figure out why I do things I don't want to do, and conversely, why I don 't do things that I do want to do. The answers to these mysteries lie within my subconscious mind, and there are some things I'd like to uproot, and others I would like to nurture for growth. For now, I will let the water lead me like a river flowing down a mountain into the depths of the valley below. I want to see what is carved there.

hf

I appreciate all of your responses, vibrators, pheromones, mushrooms and all, lol.

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Hi. Right brain stuff is better expressed through actions. Hugging is good, be it another person, pet, tree, yourself, or a vibrator. Dancing, painting, making music, or other artistic endeavors are great avenues of expression. Outdoor activities that elevate your appreciation for the natural world are also sublime. Meditation and mantra can be useful tools.

I salute the spirit within. Enjoy the ride.
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Let's say you're so mystified by the beauty of existence, that you've fallen in love with it.

Having seen some reason to the design, moments of clarity, and knowing that it is all just as it is, perfectly and yet infinitely Golden like Phi, for a perfect reason.

Saying you're gracious, or thankful is not enough to express the feeling. Wanting more is so vastly--more--than saying anything, or verbalizing a thought in language whatsoever.

I've fallen in love with...the Unspeakable. The Experiencer seduced by the Unknown.

I cannot get enough of the adventure.


 Quoting: SecondPrecession


I know EXACTLY what you mean. It's like trying to describes a great feeling or emotion while I'm tripping. When I try to use words I just laugh. I can talk about other stuff, but those strong emotions that you can't use words to describe... just makes me laugh hysterically.

Ever try mushrooms? I bet that's what you need.
 Quoting: Trainspotter


I have this emotion and feeling without tripping, and it needs expression. Sometimes I laugh whilst crying for the sheer joy of it, lol. It's as though I simply cannot express it any other way, like my mind and body don't know how.

But I want to dig deeper than that, and bring up something more than tears of joy and laughter. I want to understand this existence, intimately.
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Hi SP,

I was thinking about this thread a bit...

"I have this emotion and feeling without tripping, and it needs expression. Sometimes I laugh whilst crying for the sheer joy of it, lol. It's as though I simply cannot express it any other way, like my mind and body don't know how."

Sounds like spiritual bliss :)

It happens to me whenever I think about God or the wonders of creation.

Holy Spirit, Prana, Spiritual Bliss, Hare, LVX (LUX) or just light and love from above.

It's like Gods smiling at you and your beaming with happiness, joy.

Just a guess...

LVX!

Frater

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easy - same as secret societies use: make the chosen individual "experience" what you seek them to see/know.

secret societies dont share secrets, they "go through experiences" whcih cause changes and are named as initiations/
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I just have the urge to swim, be immersed.
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book some time in a flotation tank?

you can't swim in it, but you'll be immersed by water and darkness.
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Re: How do you express something that cannot be verbalized?
Expression from the right brain.

It's deep.

It's feeling.

It cannot be verbalized, and yet needs expression.

How do we do this?

I'm going to turn off all the lights, get naked and burn incense while lying in the tub.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


Pics or it never happened!

Edit: Damn I was too late!

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Expression from the right brain.

It's deep.

It's feeling.

It cannot be verbalized, and yet needs expression.

How do we do this?

I'm going to turn off all the lights, get naked and burn incense while lying in the tub.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


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Let's say you're so mystified by the beauty of existence, that you've fallen in love with it.

Having seen some reason to the design, moments of clarity, and knowing that it is all just as it is, perfectly and yet infinitely Golden like Phi, for a perfect reason.

Saying you're gracious, or thankful is not enough to express the feeling. Wanting more is so vastly--more--than saying anything, or verbalizing a thought in language whatsoever.

I've fallen in love with...the Unspeakable. The Experiencer seduced by the Unknown.

I cannot get enough of the adventure.


 Quoting: SecondPrecession


I know EXACTLY what you mean. It's like trying to describes a great feeling or emotion while I'm tripping. When I try to use words I just laugh. I can talk about other stuff, but those strong emotions that you can't use words to describe... just makes me laugh hysterically.

Ever try mushrooms? I bet that's what you need.
 Quoting: Trainspotter


I have this emotion and feeling without tripping, and it needs expression. Sometimes I laugh whilst crying for the sheer joy of it, lol. It's as though I simply cannot express it any other way, like my mind and body don't know how.

But I want to dig deeper than that, and bring up something more than tears of joy and laughter. I want to understand this existence, intimately.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


Hi SP,

I was thinking about this thread a bit...

"I have this emotion and feeling without tripping, and it needs expression. Sometimes I laugh whilst crying for the sheer joy of it, lol. It's as though I simply cannot express it any other way, like my mind and body don't know how."

Sounds like spiritual bliss :)

It happens to me whenever I think about God or the wonders of creation.

Holy Spirit, Prana, Spiritual Bliss, Hare, LVX (LUX) or just light and love from above.

It's like Gods smiling at you and your beaming with happiness, joy.

Just a guess...

LVX!

Frater
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Yes, I'd say you are right. Only, this has happened to me for some time now, well over a decade. So, in part I understand that joy as an expression of being here in wondrous creation as part of it.

But there is also this extreme desire for more. The deep mystery of it while experiencing it at the same time is just wild to me and I want to go deeper.
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bump for expressing the inexpressible.
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"Yes, I'd say you are right. Only, this has happened to me for some time now, well over a decade. So, in part I understand that joy as an expression of being here in wondrous creation as part of it.

But there is also this extreme desire for more. The deep mystery of it while experiencing it at the same time is just wild to me and I want to go deeper."

Few hear it and fewer really follow through.

It's a quest and Ive been on that quest since i was 15. Nuts about it since 15. I've studied Alchemy to Zen, lived in Hindu temples, am ordained this, initiated that, brother, bakta, frater and in almost all traditions I've found spiritual bliss but the truth that no religions ever tell is that it's just between YOU and God. It's personal.

Sure various things offer stuff that can help trigger that bliss and explain stuff, offer insight and all that.

But a few people who have made their way in this manner have banded together in various pockets and I'm fortunate to have people with similar experiences and desires near me.

I know it's cliche to say everyones path is different but everyones path is different and I wouldn't expect yours to be the same as mine.

i can't seem to type capital I's unless i really try LOL.

Can't seem to express what I want to say lol but anyway, enjoy the ride and welcome to the club. It's worth it, it's given meaning and joy to life rather than just the mundane affairs of maintaining.

Whats missing from peoples lives who have plenty, why are they not so happy when they could be full of Joy? Obvious of course.

LVX Luv and I'm smiling :)

cheers

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It seems like the important part is that you have someone to express this to, and not just anyone, but someone who can make you feel like you have made connection with in a very intimate, but not necessarily sexual, way. It feels like you're spinning out there in a dance of souls with out another soul that dances the same dance, or is symbiotic with you. When I want to express, I write, hopefully flowing through my self onto the medium offering exchange. I can only hope someone feels something and shares the experience. Try this, and let me know if it hits anything.

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are you left handed?

if so break out the sassafras oil.

it's xtc.
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I am not left-handed.

I wonder if that's where such a common expression came from, ie. "suffering sassafras!" People back in the day knew a lot more about plants and their oils than we do today.
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Crap. I was guessing you're left handed...

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Interesting Topic, it is!

My Wife and i have no common language,
except English.

Sometimes, when something need to be quick
like: Run, Duck and Cover or "Now"
we use Handsigns like Soldiers on a Mission!

When we have a fight we just speak our native Language
and for the better times we just do and show!

In a Discussion we use our Iphones for the Dictionary!

Nice Topico, 5 Stars!
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How do you express something that cannot be verbalized?
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:clubbed:
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lol

What exactly are you trying to imply?
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weird, I literally feel like I am Fire.
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What exactly are you trying to imply?
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I thought we were playing the non verbalize game

Do You know that pictures speak louder than words?!
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Very well then. I will load up some smilies.


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