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My Boyfriend And I Have Good Working Knowledge Of The Astral And Self Defense There, Ask Us A Question

 
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I'm only doing this because I'm extremely bored and have nothing better to do. Sorry but if you're looking for religious or "love and light" answers you won't find any here. We're skeptical about nearly everything, even our own astral experiences and we don't subscribe to factions or belief systems. We just observe things and follow our own ideals.

We only offer our practical knowledge of what we've found to work in various situations. We're not here to "save" people or allow them to become dependent on us, we give advice and tips but you need to do the work yourself, we're not your personal body guards. You can ask anything ranging from astral to spirits to defense and working with energy. We've found a myriad of past life memories working together in these fields.

My boyfriend knows more than I do and he's not online at the moment, in fact he doesn't even know I wrote this on his behalf yet. When he wakes up I'll get him to answer stuff.
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If your so skeptical, why do you believe in all this astral stuff? Its not real, there is nothing to 'defend' against. Its just you wishing to feel special.
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If your so skeptical, why do you believe in all this astral stuff? Its not real, there is nothing to 'defend' against. Its just you wishing to feel special.
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No. It's more about analyzing everything we did, felt and experienced there. We sort through to ensure we're not just going along with these things through blind faith. Our "belief" in the paranormal is a result of countless substantial experiences with it. Obviously not evidence that can be shown to the world, it's a personal thing. This thread is for those who share similar interests or experiences.
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what is your access method?
standard OOBE stuff? meditation?

what quantifiable evidence have you been able to produce (not calling you out, just curious) i.e. remote viewing each other, playing cards, etc.

what non-physical beings have you both interacted with?
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What is a watcher and whom does it serve ?
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What is a watcher and whom does it serve ?
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I have no idea. I've never heard of a watcher before.
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what is your access method?
standard OOBE stuff? meditation?

what quantifiable evidence have you been able to produce (not calling you out, just curious) i.e. remote viewing each other, playing cards, etc.

what non-physical beings have you both interacted with?
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As for access, it's projection in various forms. A lot of the times we end up there via dream states without even realizing it, or sometimes we're aware. On rare occasions we had a full transition (leaving the physical body 100%), at that point the "astral/ spiritual" realm or whatever becomes about as physical and as real as this one. I guess that could qualify as an OBE.

For my boyfriend and I it actually came out through shared dreams. I had my first one with him in 2004 before I even knew he existed. We met on a spiritual site initially and went back and forth cross referencing all these dreams we think we might have shared. A lot of those were also shared past life memories that came through in dreams.

Then it started getting weirder, one time he came to my location physically when we were both sleeping (he's on the other side of the world) and grabbed my arm. I felt it physically and woke up then asked him about it. With the dreams it's not one of us going "Oh yeah I had the same thing". We hold back a lot of the details and the other needs to provide a lot of the specific details of events before it can be confirmed.

A lot of things like that over a period of time that built up to a point where we couldn't really deny to ourselves that it wasn't real. Don't really think it's fair to call them non physical since technically they're very physical and real on the realm they're native to. But uhm, various races. So called 'angels', extra terrestrials and humans etc. They're normal people to us, their races don't give them any special statuses in our eyes.

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“Saying one government is better than another government because one only killed 10 million, as opposed to 100 million is absolute insanity.” - Shingen.

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fasinating OP, I've no personal experience of this. A monk near me can project at will, he is very well known here (Thailand)
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I know dreams are important. Problem is I locked the door after I felt (rather tan seeing) my hand getting out of my hand in a pit of darkness. The fear was the thing that closed the door so now it's tough 4 me 2 do the auto-hypnose B4 dreaming including the reverse countdown. There was a time I ordered my mind to remember the dreams (in most cases we forget everything about it when we wake up) and I wrote them down or drew them with details. So the question is:
1) What is the method we outta use to remember the dreams or get into deeper levels?
2) What is the "protection" we need to use? A visual image we caress like having an energy cocoon or helmet? If so (or other thing) what COLOR do we gotta imagine?
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Is it true the astral body is a bit purple and it's like a duplicate of our own?
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What is a watcher and whom does it serve ?
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I have no idea. I've never heard of a watcher before.
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"The third sigil is said to be that of the “Watcher.” Many cultures have believed in a race of Watchers which are not quite human but not quite Divine. Sometimes referred to as the “Grigori,” the Watchers oversee events on Earth and are often associated with a Choir of Angels (often called “guardian angels”). The Watchers seem to be capable of serving the purpose of watching over and protecting humans. In almost all beliefs, these Watchers seem to have an uncertain disposition, and are capable of destroying one who makes an error in performing a ritual or who has offended the Gods in some way, just as easily as they might grant the most potent protection to those that the Watcher may see as deserving. "
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Can you astral travel around this plane here, the Earth, and have you been able to verify that the things you see out of body actually exist in 3D? Have you then visited the Moon and the other planets and if so what notable things have you seen there? What about finding lost persons, shouldn't OOB'ers be able to locate them too?
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Honest question, do you and your boyfriend have astral sex!
If so could you describe the differences!!!

Can you both go in to the astral while being next to each other or do your energy fields interact!

I have had a few obe's but did nothave 100 per cent control, was like a different me, a higher me a part of me was missing while fully out of body.
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What is a watcher and whom does it serve ?
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I have no idea. I've never heard of a watcher before.
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"The third sigil is said to be that of the “Watcher.” Many cultures have believed in a race of Watchers which are not quite human but not quite Divine. Sometimes referred to as the “Grigori,” the Watchers oversee events on Earth and are often associated with a Choir of Angels (often called “guardian angels”). The Watchers seem to be capable of serving the purpose of watching over and protecting humans. In almost all beliefs, these Watchers seem to have an uncertain disposition, and are capable of destroying one who makes an error in performing a ritual or who has offended the Gods in some way, just as easily as they might grant the most potent protection to those that the Watcher may see as deserving. "
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Oh god. Well yeah, there's plenty who will tell you they're something along those lines. Doesn't necessarily make it true, or sometimes it's someone misinterpreting a job that's a bit beyond their comprehension. I think there's numerous occupations out there that could fit that interpretation.

Anytime someone assumes that kind of authority though, to punish the "evil" and reward the "good" I want to throw up. They're nothing short of benevolent dictator.
“Saying one government is better than another government because one only killed 10 million, as opposed to 100 million is absolute insanity.” - Shingen.

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Yep... and WHAT YOU FOCUS ON... EXANDS and is created...

It is a SELF CREATED World... of illusions...

If your so skeptical, why do you believe in all this astral stuff? Its not real, there is nothing to 'defend' against. Its just you wishing to feel special.
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fasinating OP, I've no personal experience of this. A monk near me can project at will, he is very well known here (Thailand)
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You know it's something just about everyone can learn though right? I mean I personally wasn't able to do it since birth, it's a skill I had to learn since last year. No disrespect to your monk friend, it's probably true. I'm just saying if you're actually interested to learn it for yourself it's possible.

You'd just have to be willing to put with the downside, which would potentially include astral/ physical attacks. Which is kind of what my boyfriend teaches defense for.
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You said you wanted to help us understand, I asked you specific questions.
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Is it true the astral body is a bit purple and it's like a duplicate of our own?
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Uhm well whenever I've been in my own astral body it's never been purple. But yes the astral body seems to be an exact carbon copy of the physical one. There's another body people have that we termed the spiritual body which tends to look.... much different.

I have no idea what exactly determines the looks of the spiritual one, I think maybe a combination of a bunch of genetic code strung together from the physical bodies of past lives add or minus the genes that the person desires to express in their appearance. I'm really not sure on that one.

I think the reason why the astral body gets associated with the purple is because that's how they appear to a person on this level when the astral body is attempting to come down to this level, so it gives off a ghost like look, even though it looks entirely physical as far it is concerned.
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You said you wanted to help us understand, I asked you specific questions.
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I don't know everything, only what I've experienced so far. I'm no guru sorry. My boyfriend would handle some topics better than I would, he has more of a complex and scientific understanding, as well as a better knowledge of the hierarchies up there. I'm kind of allergic to pretentious angels.
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Honest question, do you and your boyfriend have astral sex!
If so could you describe the differences!!!

Can you both go in to the astral while being next to each other or do your energy fields interact!

I have had a few obe's but did nothave 100 per cent control, was like a different me, a higher me a part of me was missing while fully out of body.
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Lol I guess it was only a matter of time before this came up.
Yes it's possible, although I guess there hasn't been a 50/50 shared conscious experience yet. You may want to ask him for the astral sex one. His name is Reiz when he gets online.

We actually live on opposites of the world but we're still able to astral at the same time. It's a very complicated situation.

As for the OBEs, uhm it almost would sound like you were probably in your astral body, not spiritual and maybe even not entirely 100% aware. I'm just guessing based from experience, I don't know what happened there as well as you do. The only time I really tend to have trouble controlling is when I'm not 100% conscious in the projection.
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How do i stay conscious in my sleep and astral project while sleeping?

I've had many obe's, but they were mostly vibrations, sounds, and the feeling of me getting out of my body.
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I am not discussing angels. Thanks for answering the question.

Without being technical, regarding dreams and protection, what's your advice? Because I'm not particularly interested in what you can achieve 'cos I believe it's possible to achieve wonders. The thing is most of us CAN'T or what we could we lost for several reasons.

Just give me a tip (if ever) and I'll try to put it into practice, otherwise is a theoretical curiosity which helps you alone in your practice, objective for you, subjective for us. T

Then I shall withdraw.
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I know dreams are important. Problem is I locked the door after I felt (rather tan seeing) my hand getting out of my hand in a pit of darkness. The fear was the thing that closed the door so now it's tough 4 me 2 do the auto-hypnose B4 dreaming including the reverse countdown. There was a time I ordered my mind to remember the dreams (in most cases we forget everything about it when we wake up) and I wrote them down or drew them with details. So the question is:
1) What is the method we outta use to remember the dreams or get into deeper levels?
2) What is the "protection" we need to use? A visual image we caress like having an energy cocoon or helmet? If so (or other thing) what COLOR do we gotta imagine?
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For remembering dreams I think it seriously just boils down to practice. I tend to have a good memory of them personally but I managed to increase that ability just be simply going to sleep with a strong intention of being "awake" in the dreams. The more aware/ conscious you are in your dreams, the more likely you are to remember the events when you wake up. That same method gave me increased lucid dreams (deeper states) as well.

Protection can come in hundreds of forms. New age people will tell you to ask for protection from certain beings and surround yourself in "light" or auras. Christians would tell you to pray to Gods or angels for protection. None of those methods are wrong. Gods tend to go out of their way to help the people who worship them, but sometimes the situations are a bit more dire and require more than just that.

It really depends on the nature of the threat. Praying, exorcising and auras may work well for small "demons" which tend to just be amalgamations of extreme negative energy but when you have say, a person comprised of many different spectrums of energy instead of just one specific type (like negative/ positive) is after you because of a past life grudge or something, shining some light on them won't do much except maybe make them laugh at you.

At this point you'd need to be able to pick up a weapon and use it. When we say self defense it's more along the lines of self defense you'd expect to take classes for down here, except with energy usage thrown in. I think I'm going to leave that for Reiz though, he's much better in this area than myself. >.>
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When and if your boyfriend comes, I would like to know about HYBRID "amalgamations", the combo of hum-animal beings described in all religions but people in different places and different tongues which are not 'archetypes' or symbols but real in their respective realms, trapped in our reality.
Of course, if this was merely bad inner energy we wouldn't require any weapons at all. We use them because they are from "beyond" so to speak.
As promised I will withdraw 'til you or your boyfriend expand more about this. However I will command my mind to be conscious about the dreams. I was these days....
Thanks again.
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I am not discussing angels. Thanks for answering the question.

Without being technical, regarding dreams and protection, what's your advice? Because I'm not particularly interested in what you can achieve 'cos I believe it's possible to achieve wonders. The thing is most of us CAN'T or what we could we lost for several reasons.

Just give me a tip (if ever) and I'll try to put it into practice, otherwise is a theoretical curiosity which helps you alone in your practice, objective for you, subjective for us. T

Then I shall withdraw.
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Hmm alright then. I'll try.

Well when people are attacked in their dreams or astral by monsters or people, most tend to run. My tip would be not to run, but to be resourceful instead.

With an aura field all you need to do is detect the energy that's running through you, try looking in your heart area, that's a major energy hub. Your aura is already there, it's constantly around you. What you need to do is will that field to extend a few meters around your body, either 360 degrees or as a wall in a certain concentrated direction. Pour all the energy/ concentration you have into that wall to strengthen it, if it works it can stop most incoming projectiles and energy based attacks, unless they're designed to get around it.

Sorry I find it really hard to describe anything without being somewhat technical. :S
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Thanks, I'll do that when I need it. It looks like special FXs in some films like He Man and the Masters of the Universe and Big Trouble in Little China. Of course, fiction imitates real life in such cases.

That's why I asked about the colors.
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Thanks, I'll do that when I need it. It looks like special FXs in some films like He Man and the Masters of the Universe and Big Trouble in Little China. Of course, fiction imitates real life in such cases.

That's why I asked about the colors.
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Yeah there tends to be plenty of truth in fiction. It kind of blows my mind sometimes how blatant some of it is. We find that colours of the energy tend to reflect what you're putting out, not necessarily something you can directly control, it's more of a by product. I could be wrong though.
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what do these entities and or extraterrestrials look like? Do they communicate? Are they friendly?

How would one begin to have an obe experience?
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I'm only doing this because I'm extremely bored and have nothing better to do.
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I only read your OP because I'm extremely bored and have nothing better to do.
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How would one begin to have an obe experience?
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Well here I am I guess. Give me a bit to read through this and find what needs answering.
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