any other married people completely fucking lonely?

You gotta be Friends 1st, that's my opinion. We get bored sometimes, but it is what it is. Till death do us part.

My husband treats me like I am already dead, because I won't go to his religion. I stopped going in 03, and found Christ, the real one.

We are so different, nothing in common at all. He will not leave me even though we have'nt had relations in almost two years, and I have no way to leave so we are more like roomates.

ive been trying to push hewr that way for years, she wont have it.
as most women do, she presented herself as this sexualy wild woman up for anything while we dated.

now its hurry up and get it over with while i lay here like a corpse.

can't be with a person you don't love.

Good grief, so you married with a high sex drive, got the other end of the spectrum with a frigid wife and you urged her to join the sex swingers? Sex swinging is the death blow to any marriage, Who wants to sex swap their partner or watch another man pound their lady while they wank off.

Just end it already. You proposing that froze her up and shes closed up to you and cant trust you.

Play the field as a single man and stop living a lie.

this is a huge part of it. i have no friends. we have no friends. NONE.

ive been trying for years to get us into a group or club, anywhere to make friends and she sabotages it or wont do it.

do you still have that mindset today (bolded)? Do you wish you still could have an open relationship like that?

Sounds like if she is "hurry up and get it over with" well, it maybe if that is your mindset, and not hers, then she probably doesn't feel special or loved, and therefore is unwilling to give you special attention or love.

It takes two.


If you both don't want the same things emotionally, physically, spiritually, ......you know.....

Counseling, if that doesn't work --- set yourselves free.

Once you mentioned the "swinging" part. She doesnt trust you anymore. Groups, clubs and friends might mean youre looking for someone to hook up with

A woman has good memory, Once she loses trust , you never get it back. And lack of trust shuts her off sexually

Bullshit Apollo. Come on. You are better than generalizing like that.

Being on the internet too much will do that to a relationship.

Surely you both have something you both like doing...what about going for walks together?

Hardy har har.

Change your perception and love yourself and your reality will change.

Lonely is a state of mind.

yes, it is all about her pussy is being the most precious pussy in the whole world...

another thread turning into a certin self loveing man's dairy, you know the guy, the one who always trys to hijak threads n spread fake slef proclaimed wisdom ?
i think u know the guy ;)

cheers for chip! that is what I tried saying too, but nicely!

i'm evolved past the jealeousy.

sorry to hear that mate ,
you are a good fella i always like your comments , shame you have red karma from all the shills, if i ever get my account back i will green you.

btw friend, as somebody already mentioned, comunicating is the answer, i still believe you can stil make it, but swinging is never the way , being a man for your wife means you will never accept another man laying a hand on her, she is yours , and the only woman you need, let her know that.

bullshit, open or semi open marriages is the future of marriage. no other way can work long term, except maybe total religious control over people's behavior.

Yeah, it is not the wife that needs to change. OP needs an overhaul psychologically.

LOL no it is not. You watch too much porn on the nets.

If my wife ever came to me with a serious look on her face and asked that another man join our bed, Id be like WTF? and yeah, it would pretty much be over.

thanx buddy!

we have good days and bad days. we have a child and are the 2 best parents in the world. she just freezes me out sometimes emotionally and sexually(when she doesnt get her way on something, anything)

so nice to hear decent men in here give advice. goochie needs it!

I think he is lucky his wife is there, and she may be biding time to get out ---- stashing the cash ----- planning the escape route------

well sorry to say that but i guess then she is not the one for you anymore if what you u are saying is the truth,

go your sepret ways, and take the chance to refind your self ,sometimes you are less lonely despite the fact that no one is around you comparing to being with some1 who makes you feel misreble .

and pardon my english not a natvie speaker

Yes many, but not me, im no longer married.
And im no longer lonely, for I have myself

thats because:
A. your a child emotionally
B. you have a small weiner
C. both

What do you know of wisdom?

Its called the SINGLE life. You can do a 1,000 partners in every position , every week.

Leave marriage to those that can do it right as a commited and spiritual contract

Ive never understood people attempting both, It cant work

Oh I agree, I kindly tell her to go a head, you don't need me.

lets not let this thread turn into a debate over swinging.