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Would you vote for a president that allows a citizen to do whatever they want to their own body?

 
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If a person is diagnosed with Alzheimer’s chances are when the disease progresses far enough they simply will not take their own lives however, their hostility and abuse towards others will grow.

Anyone seeking an abortion has already negated free sex educational and resources to eliminate unwanted pregnancies and disease prevention practices.

A teenager mutilating him or herself typically masks their anger and feelings of lashing out and harming others and speculating that an elected official would turn their back on a troubled youth is simplistic and erroneous.

If someone wishes to smoke pot until becoming oblivious then realistically what stops them now half asses laws that currently many states wish to eliminate.

Perhaps if Darwin’s law was allowed free reign we might end up with a stronger society instead of perpetually coddling the self-absorbed and leeches upon society.

One last point although Ron Paul is a Libertarian he also brings his own spiritual beliefs into the picture as we all do hence there is no one who strictly follows any political system.
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If a person is diagnosed with Alzheimer’s chances are when the disease progresses far enough they simply will not take their own lives however, their hostility and abuse towards others will grow.

Anyone seeking an abortion has already negated free sex educational and resources to eliminate unwanted pregnancies and disease prevention practices.

A teenager mutilating him or herself typically masks their anger and feelings of lashing out and harming others and speculating that an elected official would turn their back on a troubled youth is simplistic and erroneous.

If someone wishes to smoke pot until becoming oblivious then realistically what stops them now half asses laws that currently many states wish to eliminate.

Perhaps if Darwin’s law was allowed free reign we might end up with a stronger society instead of perpetually coddling the self-absorbed and leeches upon society.

One last point although Ron Paul is a Libertarian he also brings his own spiritual beliefs into the picture as we all do hence there is no one who strictly follows any political system.
 Quoting: SilverPatriot


BUT Ron Paul stated we should be able to do whatever we want with our own bodies. You just justified your views. Thank you! Did you vote on my poll??
SMILE...you're not as stupid as they think you are!

"Once a government is committed to the principal of silencing the voice of opposition, it has only one way to go and that is down the path of increasingly repressive measures, until it becomes a source of terror to all its citizens and creates a country where everyone lives in terror" - Harry S Truman

"The single most inspiring source for us is the human struggle." Jared Leto

“Money, without brains, always is dangerous. Properly used, it is the most important essential of civilization.” - Napoleon Hill

“Failures see the hole in the donut, but do not see the donut around the hole.” - Napoleon Hill

“One of the great mistakes is to judge policies and programs by their intentions rather than their results.” ― Milton Friedman

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Ron Paul lied. He does not support abortion and therefore does not believe that women have the right to do what ever they want to their own body--keep in mind that the fetus is considered part of the woman's body.
 Quoting: Wonkish


It isn't a fetus it is a baby, there are ways to not get pregnant so, the baby has rights too. A baby has to grow in the womans body, they don't have a choice, so after they are there they have to be protected, as would a disabled person.
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I'm surprised that this isn't getting more hits. There is a Presidential Election at stake here. Wow...
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What does that have to do with Ron Paul?
 Quoting: SHR


The poll was asking would you vote for a president that allows a citizen to do whatever they want to their own body. I posted and then didn't get many responses and wondered why.
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Funny man was trying to be funny by implying RP won't even be in play come November.
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All I want to know is how can America support a president that says it should be ok to do whatever we want to our own bodies while there are a million laws currently in place that says we CAN NOT do whatever we want.

We CAN NOT smoke pot!

We CAN NOT have 3rd trimester abortions!

We CAN NOT mutilate ourselves and stay out the fucking NUT HOUSE!

Any presidential candidate can promise the world BUT c'mon world! Wake the hell up!
SMILE...you're not as stupid as they think you are!

"Once a government is committed to the principal of silencing the voice of opposition, it has only one way to go and that is down the path of increasingly repressive measures, until it becomes a source of terror to all its citizens and creates a country where everyone lives in terror" - Harry S Truman

"The single most inspiring source for us is the human struggle." Jared Leto

“Money, without brains, always is dangerous. Properly used, it is the most important essential of civilization.” - Napoleon Hill

“Failures see the hole in the donut, but do not see the donut around the hole.” - Napoleon Hill

“One of the great mistakes is to judge policies and programs by their intentions rather than their results.” ― Milton Friedman

Every man has a right to utter what he thinks is truth, and every other man has a right to knock him down for it. - Samuel Johnson
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Observations

If a person is diagnosed with Alzheimer’s chances are when the disease progresses far enough they simply will not take their own lives however, their hostility and abuse towards others will grow.

Anyone seeking an abortion has already negated free sex educational and resources to eliminate unwanted pregnancies and disease prevention practices.

A teenager mutilating him or herself typically masks their anger and feelings of lashing out and harming others and speculating that an elected official would turn their back on a troubled youth is simplistic and erroneous.

If someone wishes to smoke pot until becoming oblivious then realistically what stops them now half asses laws that currently many states wish to eliminate.

Perhaps if Darwin’s law was allowed free reign we might end up with a stronger society instead of perpetually coddling the self-absorbed and leeches upon society.

One last point although Ron Paul is a Libertarian he also brings his own spiritual beliefs into the picture as we all do hence there is no one who strictly follows any political system.
 Quoting: SilverPatriot


BUT Ron Paul stated we should be able to do whatever we want with our own bodies. You just justified your views. Thank you! Did you vote on my poll??
 Quoting: Doomalicious


Again, you have elected a simplistic approach focusing on a single element that you object to and have negated all of my statements and no, I did not bother with your poll, as it is too simplistic and self-serving.

Let us expand do you believe the government should mandate that you have a flu shot and your children the Gardasil (human papillomavirus vaccine) regardless of the toll these injections can take upon your quality of life or life itself.

Think beyond your personal peeves.
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What does that have to do with Ron Paul?
 Quoting: SHR


The poll was asking would you vote for a president that allows a citizen to do whatever they want to their own body. I posted and then didn't get many responses and wondered why.
 Quoting: Doomalicious


Funny man was trying to be funny by implying RP won't even be in play come November.
 Quoting: wisc_natureboy


November?????
 Quoting: SHR


You are getting more funny. chuckle
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Ron Paul is on C-SPAN right now if you are interested.
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Ron Paul is on C-SPAN right now if you are interested.
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I'll catch the interview on the flipside :)
SMILE...you're not as stupid as they think you are!

"Once a government is committed to the principal of silencing the voice of opposition, it has only one way to go and that is down the path of increasingly repressive measures, until it becomes a source of terror to all its citizens and creates a country where everyone lives in terror" - Harry S Truman

"The single most inspiring source for us is the human struggle." Jared Leto

“Money, without brains, always is dangerous. Properly used, it is the most important essential of civilization.” - Napoleon Hill

“Failures see the hole in the donut, but do not see the donut around the hole.” - Napoleon Hill

“One of the great mistakes is to judge policies and programs by their intentions rather than their results.” ― Milton Friedman

Every man has a right to utter what he thinks is truth, and every other man has a right to knock him down for it. - Samuel Johnson
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Observations

If a person is diagnosed with Alzheimer’s chances are when the disease progresses far enough they simply will not take their own lives however, their hostility and abuse towards others will grow.

Anyone seeking an abortion has already negated free sex educational and resources to eliminate unwanted pregnancies and disease prevention practices.

A teenager mutilating him or herself typically masks their anger and feelings of lashing out and harming others and speculating that an elected official would turn their back on a troubled youth is simplistic and erroneous.

If someone wishes to smoke pot until becoming oblivious then realistically what stops them now half asses laws that currently many states wish to eliminate.

Perhaps if Darwin’s law was allowed free reign we might end up with a stronger society instead of perpetually coddling the self-absorbed and leeches upon society.

One last point although Ron Paul is a Libertarian he also brings his own spiritual beliefs into the picture as we all do hence there is no one who strictly follows any political system.
 Quoting: SilverPatriot


BUT Ron Paul stated we should be able to do whatever we want with our own bodies. You just justified your views. Thank you! Did you vote on my poll??
 Quoting: Doomalicious


Again, you have elected a simplistic approach focusing on a single element that you object to and have negated all of my statements and no, I did not bother with your poll, as it is too simplistic and self-serving.

Let us expand do you believe the government should mandate that you have a flu shot and your children the Gardasil (human papillomavirus vaccine) regardless of the toll these injections can take upon your quality of life or life itself.

Think beyond your personal peeves.
 Quoting: SilverPatriot


I don't have ANY personal peeves as you've stated. I'll expand now!

My children have had the Gardasil series, YES ALL 4 OF MY KIDS THAT ARE ALL GIRLS!

I haven't elected a simplistic approach to anything but a curious poll that you CHOSE NOT TO PARTICIPATE IN! That's cool. If you want to expand on my views then ask me directly without making an idiot of yourself. Shoot!
SMILE...you're not as stupid as they think you are!

"Once a government is committed to the principal of silencing the voice of opposition, it has only one way to go and that is down the path of increasingly repressive measures, until it becomes a source of terror to all its citizens and creates a country where everyone lives in terror" - Harry S Truman

"The single most inspiring source for us is the human struggle." Jared Leto

“Money, without brains, always is dangerous. Properly used, it is the most important essential of civilization.” - Napoleon Hill

“Failures see the hole in the donut, but do not see the donut around the hole.” - Napoleon Hill

“One of the great mistakes is to judge policies and programs by their intentions rather than their results.” ― Milton Friedman

Every man has a right to utter what he thinks is truth, and every other man has a right to knock him down for it. - Samuel Johnson
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Most of the items on the vote list people are already doing now regardless of the law except for trimester abortions, instead they are having the kids, hating on them and abusing or killing them.

It's our bodies. Our last freedoms.

Already people are doing some freaky shit as long as they don;t push it on me, I don't care what they do. I can always look away if they did something ugly to themselves. My option.
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Since most of you have chosen to worship a new false-god
called "do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law"
and Ron Paul has chosen to be the false prophet.... let
me ask you a question... do all individuals have this right
of citizenship... to do what they will with their own bodies ?


Including children ?


After all... on what basis should children be exempt.



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sure, as long as you are not a threat to others.. go ahead and shove a pencil in your dick hole, that's your business.
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Those laws are unconstitutional in the first place.

He will not be able to do everything he wants, but if he could somehow nulify all unconstitutional laws - priceless!

As long as you don't step on other's rights, including their property rights, you can do as you please.
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Since most of you have chosen to worship a new false-god
called "do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law"
and Ron Paul has chosen to be the false prophet.... let
me ask you a question... do all individuals have this right
of citizenship... to do what they will with their own bodies ?


Including children ?


After all... on what basis should children be exempt.



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 Quoting: Dr Doom


Parents are responsible for their children until they are 18 years old. If you haven't got them straight by then, there isn't anything you can do.
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Ron Paul lied. He does not support abortion and therefore does not believe that women have the right to do what ever they want to their own body--keep in mind that the fetus is considered part of the woman's body.
 Quoting: Wonkish


Who considers a fetus part of the female body?

That is absurd.
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Since most of you have chosen to worship a new false-god
called "do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law"
and Ron Paul has chosen to be the false prophet.... let
me ask you a question... do all individuals have this right
of citizenship... to do what they will with their own bodies ?


Including children ?


After all... on what basis should children be exempt.



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 Quoting: Dr Doom


Parents are responsible for their children until they are 18 years old. If you haven't got them straight by then, there isn't anything you can do.
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Amen! I've preached the way "it should be" to my kids until I was blue in the face. 19 year "kids" know everything that ever was and if a parent says they're wrong, they become the strongest Transformer Superhero ever! Go ahead Super Mother Superior, make me whole!
SMILE...you're not as stupid as they think you are!

"Once a government is committed to the principal of silencing the voice of opposition, it has only one way to go and that is down the path of increasingly repressive measures, until it becomes a source of terror to all its citizens and creates a country where everyone lives in terror" - Harry S Truman

"The single most inspiring source for us is the human struggle." Jared Leto

“Money, without brains, always is dangerous. Properly used, it is the most important essential of civilization.” - Napoleon Hill

“Failures see the hole in the donut, but do not see the donut around the hole.” - Napoleon Hill

“One of the great mistakes is to judge policies and programs by their intentions rather than their results.” ― Milton Friedman

Every man has a right to utter what he thinks is truth, and every other man has a right to knock him down for it. - Samuel Johnson
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Ron Paul lied. He does not support abortion and therefore does not believe that women have the right to do what ever they want to their own body--keep in mind that the fetus is considered part of the woman's body.
 Quoting: Wonkish


he supports states rights as opposed to federal roe vs wade.

that's fine by me.

you wanna skillet scramble the kid? under RP, go to the states that welcome it.

FUCK a federal national mandate.

commie fucks
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bump

Amen
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But what happened to the unholy grail of 'free will' ?
Do children not automatically have free will ?

Is the age limit for the right to exercise free will
over one's own body something the government
should legislate... or should the parents decide ?




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But what happened to the unholy grail of 'free will' ?
Do children not automatically have free will ?

Is the age limit for the right to exercise free will
over one's own body something the government
should legislate... or should the parents decide ?




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 Quoting: Dr Doom


parents decide
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Oh goody... so if a parent decides
his child has no free will until
age 30 or 40.... and another parent
liberates his child at age 5 or 6...
that's ok ?



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Ron Paul lied. He does not support abortion and therefore does not believe that women have the right to do what ever they want to their own body--keep in mind that the fetus is considered part of the woman's body.
 Quoting: Wonkish


Considered by whom? That's a twisted viewpoint. The fetus is a person, its own person. I wonder if some people would still say the same thing if they were talking to someone who survived an abortion.

"You weren't a person, you were just like another limb, nothing. It was completely acceptable to throw you away."
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Oh goody... so if a parent decides
his child has no free will until
age 30 or 40.... and another parent
liberates his child at age 5 or 6...
that's ok ?



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No, the child is free at 18.
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First you told me the parents decide
when their child gains free will...
and now you say the government decides.

Your answers are confusing.



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According to the Bible children become adults at age 20.

Which means the US sends 18 and 19 year old children to war
[not allowed under God's Law.]



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According to the Bible children become adults at age 20.

Which means the US sends 18 and 19 year old children to war
[not allowed under God's Law.]



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I wouldn't argue with 20, but most kids want to be free way before then.
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First you told me the parents decide
when their child gains free will...
and now you say the government decides.

Your answers are confusing.



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 Quoting: Dr Doom


only to you
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Wouldn't it be ironic if under a Ron Paul administration
all hell breaks loose and the draft is reinstated.

God knows what part of the planet Ron Paul might send
your body. ;-)




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Ron Paul lied. He does not support abortion and therefore does not believe that women have the right to do what ever they want to their own body--keep in mind that the fetus is considered part of the woman's body.
 Quoting: Wonkish


Who considers a fetus part of the female body?

That is absurd.
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Uh, duh, uh, it is attached to the body isn't it.
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Ron Paul lied. He does not support abortion and therefore does not believe that women have the right to do what ever they want to their own body--keep in mind that the fetus is considered part of the woman's body.
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Who considers a fetus part of the female body?

That is absurd.
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Uh, duh, uh, it is attached to the body isn't it.
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