CHEMTRAILs are what???

This is VERY true. However, just because it's proven I had sex with a woman before does not mean I'm having sex with EVERY woman you see.

Same thought process.

I suspect my primary motivation for getting irritated at many CT believers comes down to the sheer arrogance with which they address anyone that doesn't agree with them (they're not alone in this ... hell, even I've been guilty of it, I really shouldn't judge.)

Disbeliever: "Please show me any proof that that trail is made up of chemicals."

Believer: "LOOK UP!!! ARE YOU STUPID?!?!"

Disbeliever: "That's a contrail. Nothing new."

Believer: "It's persistent!!! You're an idiot!!! That PROVES it's a nefarious plot from the government!!"

Disbeliever: "Persistence is not proof. Contrails can trigger cirrus clouds."

Believer: "That's not true!!! You're paid by the government to disagree with me!!!"

Disbeliever: "Here's photographic evidence that this has been going on since before ww2."

Believer: "You photoshopped that!!!"

Disbeliever: *sigh* *walks away*

This mock conversation I just wrote out is a pretty accurate portrayal of how these conversations usually go.

Even though the person making a claim has the burden of proof even when a disbeliever submits evidence contrary to the believer's claim, it's instantly rejected.

As another poster stated: It's like a religion.

And WHY do you care what we think about CHEMTRAILS?

Because the spread of ignorance is something EVERYONE should fight!

I don't expect any chemtard to understand that...

7) George B's favorite topic

Not really . . . However, I have spent much time researching and studying the issue over the last two years. . . .

The point here is that the agencies involved tried to hide their activities and were successful for several decades. . . .since they avoided all liability and criticism of anyone involved, what makes the public think similar activities could not be conducted as has been suggested . . . Would the present agencies also hide their activities for decades as well?????

However, as you can see from this poll less than 39% of the GLP voters feel visual evidence is the most important evidence of CHEMTRAILs. . . Other factors are important to advocates including the historical existence of motives, patents, laws, etc. seems advocates simply don't look at the sky and decide!!!

Thread: The single best Evidence CHEMTRAILs Exist  . . .  

POLL: The single best Evidence CHEMTRAILs Exist  . . .  
8) Visual Observations and various environmental testing    38.8% (59)
1) Patents. . . Stratospheric Welsbach seeding for reduction of global warming & Method of modifying weather, etc   19.1% (29)
6) Desire to reduce population  . . .Ga Guidestones, CFR, Club of Rome    13.8% (21)
12) Motivation by threats: Solar Storms, EMP, global warming, Weather wars & UN treaty against weather wars    7.9% (12)
4) Human experimentation by US government and TPTB . . . Church Committee, Norwood papers, MK Ultra   5.9% (9)
9) US code and laws allowing Chemical & Biological warfare agents on citizens until 1997   3.9% (6)
7) Various Whistleblowers. . . Project Cloverleaf, etc.   2.6% (4)
3) Scientific Research, recommendations & Symposia Public announcements by Science Czar Holderin, Bill Gates, etc   2.0% (3)
5) Secret weapons systems developed in complete secrecy ie Manhattan Project, etc.    2.0% (3)
11) Airline industry & IPCC's lack of mitigation efforts to reduce persistent contrails   2.0% (3)
10) Supreme court cases dismissing liability of government for human experimentation damages   1.3% (2)
2) History of exact behavior. . .  zinc cadmium sulfide from A C-119 Flying Boxcar in 1950 - 1960s   0.7% (1)
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7) George B is sooooooooooooo stupid. Vote +1

And you base your statement on what facts? . . .

Most jets pollute the skys and the pollution eventually finds it way to the ground. We can measure what artificial flying is doing to our planet. For example Mt. Shasta has extreme concentrations of aluminum and other things that are found in jet fuels... talking about what the trails look like is not as relevant as to what the outcome of air traffic over a given pristine environment is. Smarter air transit needs to be thought of or people need to learn some patience and enjoy the trip between two points.

This pic is from 1991. what you trying to tell us GB?

False flags like 911 are the easiest way to brainwash a whole population and get them to give up their freedoms and support never ending wars against Israel's enemies...but no, our government wouldn't do that to us..would they?

All transportation results in contamination of the area traveled through. . . .the question is what is acceptable and what is too much . . .

So they are spraying in Iraq at 3 am in 1991.



Edit: link?

Last Edited by mrroy on 12/30/2011 10:43 PM

The photo obviously demonstrates persistent trails in the sky. . . It shows them in a war zone where contrails would not be desirable . . . Unless they were either unavoidable or encouraged for some military purpose. . . .I think it is interesting they were so abundant and persistent. . . These appear to be from AWACS aircraft and tankers used to air refuel other aircraft. . . .it has been suggested that the first gulf war was used to introduce advanced 3d imaging technology used for battlefield management. . . One can use the photo to support arguments from both advocates and debunkers . . .what do you think? . . .

Depending on air speed and direction, brightness of the moon and stars they could have been visible during the night or the next morning. . . However, because of the altitude of photo platform the trails were only cloud banks to the people on the ground. . .

Last Edited by George B on 12/30/2011 10:56 PM

After 9-11 when ALL planes were grounded, chem trails were still being put down in my area.
A doubting coworker finally realised something unusal was happening in our skys after seeing
the spray being put down in a pattern when no planes were supposed to be flying.

NEMS are so tiny you cannot see them, unless you have an electron microscope. They are molecular in size. They can be programmed and controlled using a super computer to move around in three dimensional space. You figure out how they are used!

HI George B, how are you?

Hey! Be nice! Unlike most of the others, George actually employs some critical thinking and refuses to scream "CHEMTRAILS!" at EVERY contrail he sees. He's come to his conclusions in a fairly educated manner.

The fact that he's almost never rude to those that disagree with him should warrant a little common courtesy, don't you think?

Where was this?

I am fine. . . getting use to being back home. . .getting use to the old routine. . . How are you VT? . . .

Would seem to be rather expensive to manufacture . . . Would there be better ways to target their use than high altitude release over an enormous area . .

A true debate requires civility between the participants if anything is expected to be accomplished . . .I try to maintain a calm head as much as possible. . . Thanks for your comments . . .

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Chemtrails are....something that whiny losers who have NO concept of what they are exposed to from millions of sources all around them complain about, non-stop.

It's also a term used by IDIOTS when they see persistent contrails in the sky.

Actually, he classifies all persistent contrails as chemtrails.

Actually, I do not. . .