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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 6845027  United States12/31/2011 09:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey! Be nice! Unlike most of the others, George actually employs some critical thinking and refuses to scream "CHEMTRAILS!" at EVERY contrail he sees. He's come to his conclusions in a fairly educated manner. The fact that he's almost never rude to those that disagree with him should warrant a little common courtesy, don't you think? Actually, he classifies all persistent contrails as chemtrails. Actually, I do not. . . Yes, you have said that contrails are a type of chemtrail. |
| George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten!  User ID: 1219201 United States12/31/2011 09:29 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Sir Phydeau Hey! Be nice! Unlike most of the others, George actually employs some critical thinking and refuses to scream "CHEMTRAILS!" at EVERY contrail he sees. He's come to his conclusions in a fairly educated manner. The fact that he's almost never rude to those that disagree with him should warrant a little common courtesy, don't you think? Actually, he classifies all persistent contrails as chemtrails. Actually, I do not. . . Yes, you have said that contrails are a type of chemtrail. I have said that contrails could be a subset of CHEMTRAILs if one took the position that any aerosol released at altitude by an aircraft including water vapor or any chemical was by definition a Chemtrail. . . however, I feel there must be a motive for the release of such chemicals. . . And the trails need not be visible as well. . . .  :C - #1a: Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1611462 United States12/31/2011 09:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey! Be nice! Unlike most of the others, George actually employs some critical thinking and refuses to scream "CHEMTRAILS!" at EVERY contrail he sees. He's come to his conclusions in a fairly educated manner. The fact that he's almost never rude to those that disagree with him should warrant a little common courtesy, don't you think? A true debate requires civility between the participants if anything is expected to be accomplished . . .I try to maintain a calm head as much as possible. . . Thanks for your comments . . .  Thank you George B. You are so right. Much appreciated. A little civility goes a long way. More people tend to listen to a debate. And thank you too, Z. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1611462 United States12/31/2011 09:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey! Be nice! Unlike most of the others, George actually employs some critical thinking and refuses to scream "CHEMTRAILS!" at EVERY contrail he sees. He's come to his conclusions in a fairly educated manner. The fact that he's almost never rude to those that disagree with him should warrant a little common courtesy, don't you think? A true debate requires civility between the participants if anything is expected to be accomplished . . .I try to maintain a calm head as much as possible. . . Thanks for your comments . . . Thank you George B. You are so right. Much appreciated. A little civility goes a long way. More people tend to listen to a debate. And thank you too, Z. * Sir Pydeau. (Z) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 6845027 United States12/31/2011 09:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6845027 Actually, he classifies all persistent contrails as chemtrails. Actually, I do not. . . Yes, you have said that contrails are a type of chemtrail. I have said that contrails could be a subset of CHEMTRAILs if one took the position that any aerosol released at altitude by an aircraft including water vapor or any chemical was by definition a Chemtrail. . . however, I feel there must be a motive for the release of such chemicals. . . And the trails need not be visible as well. . . . :C - #1a: Show that stupid "advocate exhibit" where you separate them by type...class...or whatever way you invented to classify them... |
| George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 1219201 United States12/31/2011 09:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have said that contrails could be a subset of CHEMTRAILs if one took the position that any aerosol released at altitude by an aircraft including water vapor or any chemical was by definition a Chemtrail. . . however, I feel there must be a motive for the release of such chemicals. . . And the trails need not be visible as well. . . . Show that stupid "advocate exhibit" where you separate them by type...class...or whatever way you invented to classify them... I thought I would never hear you request I post one of my information sheets. . .  Last Edited by George B on 12/31/2011 09:49 AM Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
| George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 1219201 United States12/31/2011 09:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is pretty old now and I bet some of the links don't work . . . But this is I think what you requested Noble. . . . Interesting info . . goo from the sky . . . [link to www.thelivingmoon.com] Newest version of Chemtrals FACT SHEET 28 July 2011. . . UK authorities want help with contrails. . . . [link to consciouslifenews.com] This is the single most studied TRAIL in the public record studied researchers. . . . [link to www.met.reading.ac.uk] IMO there are at least three types of CHEMTRAILS . . .  1. Low grade TRAILs are the newer persistent Contrail: Most visible and thus the cause of much emotional responses . . . these are the majority of those seen and responded too. They are caused by long haul aircraft using high efficiency jet engines [link to www.jerryesmith.com] that produce exhaust aerosols higher in relative humidity and at lower temperatures than the older type engines. . [link to contrailscience.com] . . this results in more visible and persistent TRAILS than the earlier versions and along with the relative increase in long haul flights and the steady increase in the high efficiency engines' use the prevalence of the Trails and their public knowledge has also increased. [link to www.sciencedirect.com] This type of Trail follows the same atmospheric laws that contrails do . . . and cannot be distinguished from contrails, except they have a greater chance to be persistent and form cirrus cloud banks. These trails are not all together harmless because they have the potential to change the climate. [link to ozone-uv.defra.gov.uk] NOTE: They are indistinguishable from contrails. There is much data and knowledge known about this type of TRAIL. They have been studied in detail by IPCC [link to www.raes.org.uk] and [link to www.faa.gov] ,NASA [link to www.areco.org] and [link to afreserve.com] and [link to www-pm.larc.nasa.gov] [link to www-pm.larc.nasa.gov] , NOAA [link to www.epa.gov] , and DOE. [link to stopnwo.com] , The long term affects are the only thing in doubt. [link to www.met.reading.ac.uk] and [link to consciouslifenews.com] [link to www.youtube.com] [link to www.archive.org] High Efficiency bypass jet engines . . . [link to ozone-uv.defra.gov.uk] Paragraph: 3.3.2. [link to www.aviationsystemsdivision.arc.nasa.gov] 2% increase in fuel and 70% decrease in TRAILs. Contrail avoidance research. . . . [link to www.benthamscience.com] 2. Medium grade TRAILs: These TRAILS may or may not be visible (for the most part) and are made up of the aerosols used for cloud seeding [link to www.weathermodification.com] insecticide spraying [link to afreserve.com] , Chaff [link to www.globalsecurity.org] and other known missions of the military [link to books.nap.edu] , water boards, corporations, etc. [link to books.nap.edu] and [link to www.weathermodification.org] These are not as emotional usually because few people see them. However, these TRIALS have significant affects. They may result in rain, draughts, floods, high levels of toxic substances [link to www.youngstown.afrc.af.mil] and [link to www.gaylemclaughlin.net] in localized areas, power failures, storm and lightning alteration, etc. NOTE: There is much data and knowledge known about this type of TRAIL. The long term affects again are the only thing in doubt. Inadequate laws and treaties make these TRAILS and the damage they sometimes create very problematic. Courts have been very reluctant to award damages to persons harmed by the use of these aerosols i.e. cloud seeding operations. [link to www.rbs2.com] and [link to www.rbs2.com] and [link to www.whoi.edu] 3. High grade TRAILs: These TRAILS in my opinion (IMO) may or may not be visible but are released by methods to keep them camouflaged or invisible to the average citizen. IMO they would be dispersed at night or above heavy cloud cover, etc. and usually at rather high altitudes. These are used as countermeasures or detection systems to electromagnetic weather modification weapons (these weapons were mentioned by Secretary of Defense Cohen [link to en.wikipedia.org] and [link to www.fas.org] during the Clinton Administration), communication enhancements for over the horizon communication and surveillance. [link to www.scribd.com] . Other possible uses are protection from EMP from solar storms , geoengineering operations or experiments [link to real-agenda.com] and [link to www.cfr.org] and experimentation for Riot Control over large areas of the country (which is permissible under US Code with informed consent . . really [link to en.wikipedia.org] ). NOTE: There is little or no hard evidence known about this type of TRAIL . . . IMO there is a high probability they exist based upon inference because of history [link to www.hoover.org] and [link to en.wikipedia.org] , capability. [link to www.youtube.com] , budget, patents [link to patft.uspto.gov] PN/5003186 and PN/6315213 , scientific symposia [link to www.metatronics.net] , research [link to www.met.reading.ac.uk] , etc. The long term affects are completely unknown. Interesting information. . . . [link to chemtruth.ning.com] Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 6845027 United States12/31/2011 10:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have said that contrails could be a subset of CHEMTRAILs if one took the position that any aerosol released at altitude by an aircraft including water vapor or any chemical was by definition a Chemtrail. . . however, I feel there must be a motive for the release of such chemicals. . . And the trails need not be visible as well. . . . Show that stupid "advocate exhibit" where you separate them by type...class...or whatever way you invented to classify them... I thought I would never hear you request I post one of my information sheets. . . "information sheets"  |
| George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 1219201 United States12/31/2011 10:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: George B I have said that contrails could be a subset of CHEMTRAILs if one took the position that any aerosol released at altitude by an aircraft including water vapor or any chemical was by definition a Chemtrail. . . however, I feel there must be a motive for the release of such chemicals. . . And the trails need not be visible as well. . . . Show that stupid "advocate exhibit" where you separate them by type...class...or whatever way you invented to classify them... I thought I would never hear you request I post one of my information sheets. . . "information sheets" At least I try to explain my position. . . Where is yours? . . . Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 6845027 United States12/31/2011 10:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is pretty old now and I bet some of the links don't work . . . But this is I think what you requested Noble. . . . Quoting: George B Interesting info . . goo from the sky . . . [link to www.thelivingmoon.com] Newest version of Chemtrals FACT SHEET 28 July 2011. . . UK authorities want help with contrails. . . . [link to consciouslifenews.com] This is the single most studied TRAIL in the public record studied researchers. . . . [link to www.met.reading.ac.uk] IMO there are at least three types of CHEMTRAILS . . . 1. Low grade TRAILs are the newer persistent Contrail: Most visible and thus the cause of much emotional responses . . . these are the majority of those seen and responded too. They are caused by long haul aircraft using high efficiency jet engines [link to www.jerryesmith.com] that produce exhaust aerosols higher in relative humidity and at lower temperatures than the older type engines. . [link to contrailscience.com] . . this results in more visible and persistent TRAILS than the earlier versions and along with the relative increase in long haul flights and the steady increase in the high efficiency engines' use the prevalence of the Trails and their public knowledge has also increased. [link to www.sciencedirect.com] This type of Trail follows the same atmospheric laws that contrails do . . . and cannot be distinguished from contrails, except they have a greater chance to be persistent and form cirrus cloud banks. These trails are not all together harmless because they have the potential to change the climate. [link to ozone-uv.defra.gov.uk] NOTE: They are indistinguishable from contrails. There is much data and knowledge known about this type of TRAIL. They have been studied in detail by IPCC [link to www.raes.org.uk] and [link to www.faa.gov] ,NASA [link to www.areco.org] and [link to afreserve.com] and [link to www-pm.larc.nasa.gov] [link to www-pm.larc.nasa.gov] , NOAA [link to www.epa.gov] , and DOE. [link to stopnwo.com] , The long term affects are the only thing in doubt. [link to www.met.reading.ac.uk] and [link to consciouslifenews.com] [link to www.youtube.com] [link to www.archive.org] High Efficiency bypass jet engines . . . [link to ozone-uv.defra.gov.uk] Paragraph: 3.3.2. [link to www.aviationsystemsdivision.arc.nasa.gov] 2% increase in fuel and 70% decrease in TRAILs. Contrail avoidance research. . . . [link to www.benthamscience.com] 2. Medium grade TRAILs: These TRAILS may or may not be visible (for the most part) and are made up of the aerosols used for cloud seeding [link to www.weathermodification.com] insecticide spraying [link to afreserve.com] , Chaff [link to www.globalsecurity.org] and other known missions of the military [link to books.nap.edu] , water boards, corporations, etc. [link to books.nap.edu] and [link to www.weathermodification.org] These are not as emotional usually because few people see them. However, these TRIALS have significant affects. They may result in rain, draughts, floods, high levels of toxic substances [link to www.youngstown.afrc.af.mil] and [link to www.gaylemclaughlin.net] in localized areas, power failures, storm and lightning alteration, etc. NOTE: There is much data and knowledge known about this type of TRAIL. The long term affects again are the only thing in doubt. Inadequate laws and treaties make these TRAILS and the damage they sometimes create very problematic. Courts have been very reluctant to award damages to persons harmed by the use of these aerosols i.e. cloud seeding operations. [link to www.rbs2.com] and [link to www.rbs2.com] and [link to www.whoi.edu] 3. High grade TRAILs: These TRAILS in my opinion (IMO) may or may not be visible but are released by methods to keep them camouflaged or invisible to the average citizen. IMO they would be dispersed at night or above heavy cloud cover, etc. and usually at rather high altitudes. These are used as countermeasures or detection systems to electromagnetic weather modification weapons (these weapons were mentioned by Secretary of Defense Cohen [link to en.wikipedia.org] and [link to www.fas.org] during the Clinton Administration), communication enhancements for over the horizon communication and surveillance. [link to www.scribd.com] . Other possible uses are protection from EMP from solar storms , geoengineering operations or experiments [link to real-agenda.com] and [link to www.cfr.org] and experimentation for Riot Control over large areas of the country (which is permissible under US Code with informed consent . . really [link to en.wikipedia.org] ). NOTE: There is little or no hard evidence known about this type of TRAIL . . . IMO there is a high probability they exist based upon inference because of history [link to www.hoover.org] and [link to en.wikipedia.org] , capability. [link to www.youtube.com] , budget, patents [link to patft.uspto.gov] PN/5003186 and PN/6315213 , scientific symposia [link to www.metatronics.net] , research [link to www.met.reading.ac.uk] , etc. The long term affects are completely unknown. Interesting information. . . . [link to chemtruth.ning.com] So, you start out saying "IMO there are at least three types of CHEMTRAILS " And then you list the "types". You refer to the first type as "trails" even though you started out as saying you were breaking them down by type of CHEMtrail. And within the "low grade type" you list "persistent contrails" as low grade "chemtrails". |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 6845027 United States12/31/2011 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6845027 Show that stupid "advocate exhibit" where you separate them by type...class...or whatever way you invented to classify them... I thought I would never hear you request I post one of my information sheets. . . "information sheets" At least I try to explain my position. . . Where is yours? . . . In every book ever written on the subjects of aviation and atmospheric science...which you have never read. All you have done is cherry picked information you have found through google searches and created your "advocate exhibits' based on your own conclusions. It's meaningless. You are just too far gone to admit, or even recognize, that it's what you've done. |
| George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 1219201 United States12/31/2011 11:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, you start out saying "IMO there are at least three types of CHEMTRAILS " And then you list the "types". You refer to the first type as "trails" even though you started out as saying you were breaking them down by type of CHEMtrail. And within the "low grade type" you list "persistent contrails" as low grade "chemtrails". 'Trails' is a generic term which can apply to contrail or Chemtrail. . . .and yes if a trail is left by a new high efficiency jet engine I consider it to be a low grade Chemtrail. . . Because there was an intentional decision to produce a higher possibility of a persistent trail and cirrus cloud bank while reducing the amount of CO2 . . . Which I believe was a mistake or intentional geoengineering. ... Last Edited by George B on 12/31/2011 11:14 AM Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
| George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 1219201 United States12/31/2011 11:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | At least I try to explain my position. . . Where is yours? . . . Quoting: George B.In every book ever written on the subjects of aviation and atmospheric science...which you have never read. All you have done is cherry picked information you have found through google searches and created your "advocate exhibits' based on your own conclusions. It's meaningless. You are just too far gone to admit, or even recognize, that it's what you've done. So you expect everyone to accept your position because you say that all the atmospheric text books agree with you. . . With no evidence presented by you that this is true. . . . Hmmmmmm. . . . Seems all you want to do is argue . . . Without fact or substance. . .. Last Edited by George B on 12/31/2011 11:22 AM Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
| George B is a moron User ID: 6845027 United States12/31/2011 11:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, you start out saying "IMO there are at least three types of CHEMTRAILS " And then you list the "types". You refer to the first type as "trails" even though you started out as saying you were breaking them down by type of CHEMtrail. And within the "low grade type" you list "persistent contrails" as low grade "chemtrails". 'Trails' is a generic term which can apply to contrail or Chemtrail. . . .and yes if a trail is left by a new high efficiency jet engine I consider it to be a low grade Chemtrail. . . Because there was an intentional decision to produce a higher possibility of a persistent trail and cirrus cloud bank while reducing the amount of CO2 . . . Which I believe was a mistake or intentional geoengineering. ... *Sigh* Thank you for admitting what you denied earlier. And it's YOU who broke down CHEMTRAILS into 3 types. It's right there in YOUR own words. "IMO there are at least three types of CHEMTRAILS" Then you list the three types. And no, contrails are contrails...not "trails". You may "believe" you can interchange the terms...but you're wrong. It's obvious you are trying to confuse the terms purposely to get others to join your bandwagon of ignorance. |
| George B is a moron User ID: 6845027 United States12/31/2011 11:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In every book ever written on the subjects of aviation and atmospheric science...which you have never read. All you have done is cherry picked information you have found through google searches and created your "advocate exhibits' based on your own conclusions. It's meaningless. You are just too far gone to admit, or even recognize, that it's what you've done. So you expect everyone to accept your position because you say that all the atmospheric text books agree with you. . . With no evidence presented by you that this is true. . . . Hmmmmmm. . . . Seems all you want to do is argue . . . Without fact or substance. . .. Hehe...no evidence that it's true that water vapor added to an already saturated sky can lead to contrail cirrus?!? LOL!!!!! It's BASIC science you dimwit |
| George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 1219201 United States12/31/2011 11:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, you start out saying "IMO there are at least three types of CHEMTRAILS " And then you list the "types". You refer to the first type as "trails" even though you started out as saying you were breaking them down by type of CHEMtrail. And within the "low grade type" you list "persistent contrails" as low grade "chemtrails". 'Trails' is a generic term which can apply to contrail or Chemtrail. . . .and yes if a trail is left by a new high efficiency jet engine I consider it to be a low grade Chemtrail. . . Because there was an intentional decision to produce a higher possibility of a persistent trail and cirrus cloud bank while reducing the amount of CO2 . . . Which I believe was a mistake or intentional geoengineering. ... *Sigh* Thank you for admitting what you denied earlier. And it's YOU who broke down CHEMTRAILS into 3 types. It's right there in YOUR own words. "IMO there are at least three types of CHEMTRAILS" Then you list the three types. And no, contrails are contrails...not "trails". You may "believe" you can interchange the terms...but you're wrong. It's obvious you are trying to confuse the terms purposely to get others to join your bandwagon of ignorance. Not all persistent trails are left by high efficiency jet engines. . . .so not all persistent trails are CHEMTRAILs. . . Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 6845027 United States12/31/2011 11:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6845027 So, you start out saying "IMO there are at least three types of CHEMTRAILS " And then you list the "types". You refer to the first type as "trails" even though you started out as saying you were breaking them down by type of CHEMtrail. And within the "low grade type" you list "persistent contrails" as low grade "chemtrails". 'Trails' is a generic term which can apply to contrail or Chemtrail. . . .and yes if a trail is left by a new high efficiency jet engine I consider it to be a low grade Chemtrail. . . Because there was an intentional decision to produce a higher possibility of a persistent trail and cirrus cloud bank while reducing the amount of CO2 . . . Which I believe was a mistake or intentional geoengineering. ... *Sigh* Thank you for admitting what you denied earlier. And it's YOU who broke down CHEMTRAILS into 3 types. It's right there in YOUR own words. "IMO there are at least three types of CHEMTRAILS" Then you list the three types. And no, contrails are contrails...not "trails". You may "believe" you can interchange the terms...but you're wrong. It's obvious you are trying to confuse the terms purposely to get others to join your bandwagon of ignorance. Not all persistent trails are left by high efficiency jet engines. . . .so not all persistent trails are CHEMTRAILs. . . And how are you able to determine which is which from the ground?! And the only reason a high efficiency engine is more likely to leave contrails is because it's able to push the saturation level past supersaturation. Is THAT a requirement for a trail to be called a "chemtrail" instead of a contrail?! If so...that's fucking STUPID! And so are you! |
| George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 1219201 United States12/31/2011 11:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So you expect everyone to accept your position because you say that all the atmospheric text books agree with you. . . With no evidence presented by you that this is true. . . . Hmmmmmm. . . . Seems all you want to do is argue . . . Without fact or substance. . .. Quoting: George B Hehe...no evidence that it's true that water vapor added to an already saturated sky can lead to contrail cirrus?!? LOL!!!!! It's BASIC science you dimwit It can, but does not always do so. . . .however, seems the number and prevalence of high efficiency engines used in long haul aviation make it statistically more likely for cirrus cloud banks to occur. . . Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
| George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 1219201 United States12/31/2011 11:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: George B 'Trails' is a generic term which can apply to contrail or Chemtrail. . . .and yes if a trail is left by a new high efficiency jet engine I consider it to be a low grade Chemtrail. . . Because there was an intentional decision to produce a higher possibility of a persistent trail and cirrus cloud bank while reducing the amount of CO2 . . . Which I believe was a mistake or intentional geoengineering. ... *Sigh* Thank you for admitting what you denied earlier. And it's YOU who broke down CHEMTRAILS into 3 types. It's right there in YOUR own words. "IMO there are at least three types of CHEMTRAILS" Then you list the three types. And no, contrails are contrails...not "trails". You may "believe" you can interchange the terms...but you're wrong. It's obvious you are trying to confuse the terms purposely to get others to join your bandwagon of ignorance. Not all persistent trails are left by high efficiency jet engines. . . .so not all persistent trails are CHEMTRAILs. . . And how are you able to determine which is which from the ground?! And the only reason a high efficiency engine is more likely to leave contrails is because it's able to push the saturation level past supersaturation. Is THAT a requirement for a trail to be called a "chemtrail" instead of a contrail?! If so...that's fucking STUPID! And so are you! I nor you can determine anything from the ground . . . And yes the equipment and engine efficiency is the issue. . . .the use of said engines was a conscious decision with full knowledge that their use would lead to more persistent trails and cloud banks. . . Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 2716241 United States12/31/2011 11:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | here goes another horseshit thread between opie and las dos maricons. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2716241  Thanks! no need to thank for the stupidly year long obvious. pasta fagioli and you been dancing as usual for 3 pages. we're just waiting for fagioli's anal plugin snake. same shit same threads.  |
| George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 1219201 United States12/31/2011 11:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | here goes another horseshit thread between opie and las dos maricons. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2716241 Thanks! no need to thank for the stupidly year long obvious. pasta fagioli and you been dancing as usual for 3 pages. we're just waiting for fagioli's anal plugin snake. same shit same threads. Yes, the arguments become somewhat similar and repeatable because there is very little new information coming forth in the last few months. . .if you are bored, there are thousands of other threads to visit. . . Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 2716241 United States12/31/2011 12:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | here goes another horseshit thread between opie and las dos maricons. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2716241 Thanks! no need to thank for the stupidly year long obvious. pasta fagioli and you been dancing as usual for 3 pages. we're just waiting for fagioli's anal plugin snake. same shit same threads. Yes, the arguments become somewhat similar and repeatable because there is very little new information coming forth in the last few months. . .if you are bored, there are thousands of other threads to visit. . . you're a worse troll than noble and snak!!!  |
| George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 1219201 United States12/31/2011 12:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no need to thank for the stupidly year long obvious. pasta fagioli and you been dancing as usual for 3 pages. we're just waiting for fagioli's anal plugin snake. same shit same threads. Yes, the arguments become somewhat similar and repeatable because there is very little new information coming forth in the last few months. . .if you are bored, there are thousands of other threads to visit. . . you're a worse troll than noble and snak!!! If you consider me a troll. . . What are you? . . . My purpose is to offer a poll to test the concepts people hold on the Chemtrail/contrail debate. . . You see I think it is important to know why people believe what they believe. . . Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 7591810  Puerto Rico12/31/2011 12:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1) all trails in the sky are CHEMTRAILs, contrails are a subset of contrails Quoting: George B 2) all trails in the sky are contrails, CHEMTRAILs don't exist 3) some trails in the sky are CHEMTRAILs but most trails are contrails 4) CHEMTRAILs are persistent trails, contrails are not persistent 5) CHEMTRAILs nor contrails need be visible, visibility is coincidental 6) CHEMTRAILs are very rare but are occasionally seen there are over 17 patents related to methods of injecting the toilet shit & piss in jet engine turbines mixed along 21 chemicals including barium salts used by epa to trace the plumes .... I posted this here long ago and there were no comments .. so keep breathing shit at the morning! and dreaming conspiracy theorys about what is simply shit dumping in the air by greedy airlines ... have it ! sniff it , smell it , eat it ! ignorant sheeples!   |
| Sir Phydeau User ID: 5465427 United States12/31/2011 12:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He's said the exact opposite in my conversations with him. Believe me, since the chemmie debate is one of my favorites to watch, I've seen him on a TON of threads. I'm quite fascinated by people's passionate credulity in incredible things. (The only group that is even more amazing to watch have to be the Nibiru worshippers.) "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" — John M. Keynes "The way to see by [blind] faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Benjamin Franklin Real men keep Torah. Knighted into the Army of Yahuwah on 10-9-10. Dear disaffected Democrats: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our social tolerance delightful. However in exchange for this, you're going to have to find a way to be ok with people keeping their guns and more of their money. Dear disaffected Republicans: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our small government economic policies to your liking. However in exchange you will have to find a way to be ok with "the gays" getting married. Snacks are on the table, help yourself. Please introduce yourself to someone on "the other side", you might be astonished just how much you actually have in common. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 6845027 United States12/31/2011 12:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: George B is a moron 6845027 *Sigh* Thank you for admitting what you denied earlier. And it's YOU who broke down CHEMTRAILS into 3 types. It's right there in YOUR own words. "IMO there are at least three types of CHEMTRAILS" Then you list the three types. And no, contrails are contrails...not "trails". You may "believe" you can interchange the terms...but you're wrong. It's obvious you are trying to confuse the terms purposely to get others to join your bandwagon of ignorance. Not all persistent trails are left by high efficiency jet engines. . . .so not all persistent trails are CHEMTRAILs. . . And how are you able to determine which is which from the ground?! And the only reason a high efficiency engine is more likely to leave contrails is because it's able to push the saturation level past supersaturation. Is THAT a requirement for a trail to be called a "chemtrail" instead of a contrail?! If so...that's fucking STUPID! And so are you! I nor you can determine anything from the ground . . . And yes the equipment and engine efficiency is the issue. . . .the use of said engines was a conscious decision with full knowledge that their use would lead to more persistent trails and cloud banks. . . Persistent CONTRAILS...stupid. |
| Jack Jones User ID: 1545886 United States12/31/2011 01:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WTF? How can you half wit morons who have EYE BALLS and a bit of common sense deny the fact they ARE and HAVE BEEN spraying chemicals out the ass end of airplanes? Jesus the government shills are out on this one. Fucking sheeple can NOT be this blind and ignorant! Come on... damn! Come here to western NC any time and watch them spray the shit... every morning and every evening. Set your vid cam out and record one day of our sky! You will see those small lines of chemicals turn into great big fluffy RED clouds at sunset. [link to www.youtube.com] [link to www.youtube.com] [link to www.youtube.com] [link to www.youtube.com] [link to www.youtube.com] How can ANYONE with a fucking brain watch those videos and still deny we are being sprayed? Ignorant government shills... Pffff |
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| Sir Phydeau User ID: 5465427 United States12/31/2011 01:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WTF? How can you half wit morons who have EYE BALLS and a bit of common sense deny the fact they ARE and HAVE BEEN spraying chemicals out the ass end of airplanes? Quoting: Jack Jones 1545886 Jesus the government shills are out on this one. Fucking sheeple can NOT be this blind and ignorant! Come on... damn! Come here to western NC any time and watch them spray the shit... every morning and every evening. Set your vid cam out and record one day of our sky! You will see those small lines of chemicals turn into great big fluffy RED clouds at sunset. [link to www.youtube.com] [link to www.youtube.com] [link to www.youtube.com] [link to www.youtube.com] [link to www.youtube.com] How can ANYONE with a fucking brain watch those videos and still deny we are being sprayed? Ignorant government shills... Pffff This is exactly the kind of example I was referring to earlier. How do you know they are "spraying chemicals"? Have you flown up there and taken samples from a contrail? You're making assumptions. Yes, ASSUMPTIONS. Possibly the funniest part is that you think clouds turning red at sunset is somehow nefarious. Then closing it with insults. *sigh* Do you believe the government painted the sky blue, too? "OMG! YOU CAN OBVIOUSLY SEE IT'S BLUE!!! THIS MEANS THEY PAINTED IT!!!" It's like chicken little. Last Edited by Sir Phydeau on 12/31/2011 01:34 PM "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" — John M. Keynes "The way to see by [blind] faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Benjamin Franklin Real men keep Torah. Knighted into the Army of Yahuwah on 10-9-10. Dear disaffected Democrats: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our social tolerance delightful. However in exchange for this, you're going to have to find a way to be ok with people keeping their guns and more of their money. Dear disaffected Republicans: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our small government economic policies to your liking. However in exchange you will have to find a way to be ok with "the gays" getting married. Snacks are on the table, help yourself. Please introduce yourself to someone on "the other side", you might be astonished just how much you actually have in common. |
