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World at War, Official 2012 Thread for Israel, Iran, Syria, Hezbollah, PA, Turkey, Egypt, Pakistan, India, North Korea, Russia, China, U.S.

 
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‘America preparing military intervention in Syria’

Damascus is criticizing the US for sending an envoy to Cairo's Arab League discussions about ending the Assad regime’s crackdown on dissent. London-based political analyst Chris Bambery says the US is preparing for a military intervention in Syria.
­According to Barbery, sanctions against Syria are only the beginning of Western intervention. "The key ally in this enterprise, Turkey, has been involved with the Free Syrian Army – training them, and we know there are also American advisers in those camps in Turkey," he says. And, "when you combine all that – sanctions, diplomatic moves, the involvement with the Free Syrian Army, it begins to create a dynamic that though perhaps the Americans don’t want involvement in the military operation in Syria, they can pull it in that direction.”
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BREAKING . . .

Israel, US to stage major defense drill
Thousands of Israeli, US troops to take part in largest-ever joint drill, officials say; expert: Missile defense exercise meant to press Iran.
The IDF spokesman did not give a date for the drill Thursday, but a senior military official said it would be in the next few weeks. He was speaking on condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the issue.
[link to www.ynetnews.com]


Seems like Obamah listened to my rant earlier. That Window in January is looking pretty certain now for an attack.

We will keep the index at 10.7 for the moment but it will ratchet up.

Get ready!
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I Mean the above is a big F'N DOT!
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Some news worthy of consideration in the current extremely volatile climate of the MiddleEast.

There has recently been some regurgitation of the fact that Israel and the US will have a joint missile defense drill as reported in the Jerusalem Post on December 20, 2011. [link to www.jpost.com]
US military leaders have been in Israel conferring on this matter and supposedly the drill will be for mid 2012. However, there is strong concern from many sources that that is much too long to await such a test as events could precede such a drill. Some say the drill in the May-June time frame is actually the time for an attack on Iran. Again, that seems like too much time to await such a joint drill.
A. Currently, Iran is threatening to close the Straight of Hormuz and/or parties must seek permission to transit the route. The US is not seeking permission, that in itself is a flash point for the mid-east right now.
B. Further, there is strong evidence that Iran’s displeasure with new economic sanctions including banking restrictions and the formal ban of oil in the EU nations is like wise becoming a great flash point as Iran will not stand for it and says if there oil is banned, all oil going through the straight is banned.
C. Finally, Syria is losing control of its forces. Some Syrian Golani tank units have abandoned their posts and have then attacked pro-Assad forces. How much longer can Assad withstand the so far slow bleeding of his military. It seems sources now state the bleeding is moderate and there appears there is no surgery that could coagulate and stem the flow of losses and the fall into a very messy civil war. That being said, Assad is almost to the point of no return and will be forced soon to decide to flee Syria or at least attack Israel before fleeing. If he attacks Israel, at least Iran will give him sanctuary. At the same time, Iran’s defiance in the Persian Gulf could be directly related to keeping pressure off of its nukes (which coincidently is working) and also keeping pressure off of Assad, which so far is not working.

Without restating A, B, and C; it is apparent that these flashpoints could erupt at any moment thus resulting in missile attacks on Israel. Even if the purpose of the missile drill is to launch the attack on Iran, they are waiting much too long with Iran building nukes by the month. If the missile drill is only to warn Iran of the cooperation and defense pact of Israel and the US, that should be done today, not five precarious months from now. Of course the missile drill is likely being staged by Obamah only as a missile defense drill as an election ploy to show the World that Obamah is united with Israel. At the same time, could this entire drill be staged to infer the US will wait as will Israel until summer when all along these meetings are instead to finalize plans for the attack on Iran here in January or at latest February? The last is my hope as we cannot wait much longer if we are to shut down Iran’s nuclear engine. Finally, dates and timelines are rarely correct for anyone. One change in an operational plan could easily push a plan another month down the road, as we saw in December.

Final thoughts, some websites on prepping are discussing that 2012 is it, and all hell breaks loose before summer without inferring directly into why they think that way. I too feel that that is true and have prayed on it many times and though I by no means am 100% sure but the answer given was to be prepped by or near the 20th of January this year. Simply, take this as my own personal warning to myself, but by no means is it a date for things to happen, but merely the date answered as to when I should be prepped.
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China warns US on Asia military strategy-

China's state media have warned the US against "flexing its muscles" after Washington unveiled a defence review switching focus to the Asia-Pacific.

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Signs of things to come???

Thousands of US troops land in Israel. Aircraft carrier coming soon
DEBKAfile Exclusive Report January 6, 2012, 6:41 PM (GMT+02:00)


Thousands of US troops began descending on Israel this week. Senior US military sources told debkafile Friday, Jan. 6 that many would be staying up to the end of the year as part of the US-IDF deployment in readiness for a military engagement with Iran and its possible escalation into a regional conflict. They will be joined by a US aircraft carrier. The warplanes on its decks will fly missions with Israeli Air Force jets. The 9,000 US servicemen gathering in Israel in the coming weeks are mostly airmen, missile interceptor teams, marines, seamen, technicians and intelligence officers.

The incoming American soldiers are officially categorized as participants in Austere Challenge 12, the biggest joint US-Israeli war game ever held.

The maneuver was originally designated Juniper Stallion 2012. However, the altered name plus the comment heard from the exercise's commander, US Third Air Force Lt. Gen. Frank Gorenc, during his visit two weeks ago, that the coming event is more a "deployment" than an "exercise," confirmed that Washington has expanded its mission. The joint force will now be in place ready for a decision to attack Iran's nuclear installations or any war emergency.

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who knows windmill...I'm so burnt out on it right now...I don't even feel it's going to happen unless actual shooting starts...probably not the best way to look at it, but all the sandbagging is getting really old.
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War...and rumours of war!

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Iranian President looks to Latin America for support

­Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is turning to leftist Latin American leaders for support, beginning a tour of Venezuela, Cuba, Ecuador and Nicaragua on Sunday. The move comes as Washington increases pressure on Iran over its alleged nuclear weapons program.
Commenting on Ahmadinejad’s trip, the US State Department said that “as the regime feels increasing pressure, it is desperate for friends - and flailing around in interesting places to find” them.
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With th US pumping soldiers into Israel right now, O has israel right where he wants em. The US troops are basically the hostages to keep Israel from attacking Iran. Obamah prmoised to send the troops if Israel basked off, well Israel did back off voila, what now is to happen?
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Iran will close key oil route if crude exports blocked - Revolutionary Guard commander.

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With th US pumping soldiers into Israel right now, O has israel right where he wants em. The US troops are basically the hostages to keep Israel from attacking Iran. Obamah prmoised to send the troops if Israel basked off, well Israel did back off voila, what now is to happen?
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Tomorrow is another day...or is it?

OP?
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With th US pumping soldiers into Israel right now, O has israel right where he wants em. The US troops are basically the hostages to keep Israel from attacking Iran. Obamah prmoised to send the troops if Israel basked off, well Israel did back off voila, what now is to happen?
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Tomorrow is another day...or is it?

OP?
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Things are getting more and more interesting when one reviews the events leading up to war. Israel is in the process of shutting down Dimona, one of its nuclear plants due to concerns of war. Iran is ready to shut down the Strt of Hormuz. The US is ready to re-open it. Venzuella and Iran had a NEW plot for cyber attacks on a US nuclear plant this weekend. SYria is locked and loaded for war with israel as is Hezbollah. US troops in israel but Panetta still today uttered the warning that Israel needs to wait as the US feels sanctions could still work! What? Israel does not like that at all. Obviously Panetta thinks israel is ready to strike and why wouldn't she. Iran has crossed another red line by using its enrichment facility that is underground. No day after today will be simply normal from here.
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Thanks OP

Thread: Iranian war fears spark closure of Israel reactor

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With th US pumping soldiers into Israel right now, O has israel right where he wants em. The US troops are basically the hostages to keep Israel from attacking Iran. Obamah prmoised to send the troops if Israel basked off, well Israel did back off voila, what now is to happen?
 Quoting: M M 6823450


Tomorrow is another day...or is it?

OP?
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Things are getting more and more interesting when one reviews the events leading up to war. Israel is in the process of shutting down Dimona, one of its nuclear plants due to concerns of war. Iran is ready to shut down the Strt of Hormuz. The US is ready to re-open it. Venzuella and Iran had a NEW plot for cyber attacks on a US nuclear plant this weekend. SYria is locked and loaded for war with israel as is Hezbollah. US troops in israel but Panetta still today uttered the warning that Israel needs to wait as the US feels sanctions could still work! What? Israel does not like that at all. Obviously Panetta thinks israel is ready to strike and why wouldn't she. Iran has crossed another red line by using its enrichment facility that is underground. No day after today will be simply normal from here.
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MM how serious is the threat of war now...is this like cuban missile crisis serious or operation desert fox serious?
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With th US pumping soldiers into Israel right now, O has israel right where he wants em. The US troops are basically the hostages to keep Israel from attacking Iran. Obamah prmoised to send the troops if Israel basked off, well Israel did back off voila, what now is to happen?
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Tomorrow is another day...or is it?

OP?
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Things are getting more and more interesting when one reviews the events leading up to war. Israel is in the process of shutting down Dimona, one of its nuclear plants due to concerns of war. Iran is ready to shut down the Strt of Hormuz. The US is ready to re-open it. Venzuella and Iran had a NEW plot for cyber attacks on a US nuclear plant this weekend. SYria is locked and loaded for war with israel as is Hezbollah. US troops in israel but Panetta still today uttered the warning that Israel needs to wait as the US feels sanctions could still work! What? Israel does not like that at all. Obviously Panetta thinks israel is ready to strike and why wouldn't she. Iran has crossed another red line by using its enrichment facility that is underground. No day after today will be simply normal from here.
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MM how serious is the threat of war now...is this like cuban missile crisis serious or operation desert fox serious?
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When the U.S. or Israel get into high speed war prep it will be like the Cuban Missile Crisis based upon the fact israel would then face a blizzard of missiles. At the same time, Iran is content thinking the US and Israel cannot take out their underground nukes. Instead Iran is prepared to launch nukes from South America. Take that and Chinese and Russian threats and if war breaks out there will be more to this than simply Russia and China making statements. Much greater things at stake this month or next. Iran will not punch until their leader comes home. He is reviewing his military plans from latin America.
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China criticizes US military refocus on Asia

China has responded to America’s plans to refocus its military strategy on Asia, calling on the US to “be careful in its words and actions,” Reuters reported China’s defense ministry as saying. The new US strategy unveiled last week promises to draw military forces away from Iraq and Afghanistan in order to strengthen its capabilities in Asia in the face of China’s growing power in the region.

On Monday, China’s foreign ministry spokesman, Liu Weimin, slammed US claims of a lack of openness in Beijing’s military policy as “groundless and untrustworthy,” the Associated Press reports. “China’s intent is clear, open and transparent,” he insisted, emphasizing that China was committed to peaceful development and a “defensive” policy. America’s strategy includes the maintenance of large bases in Japan and South Korea and the deployment of marines, navy ships and aircraft to Australia’s Northern Territory.
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OP - Please explain - Iran has nukes in South America and will launch them?
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01-09-2012 @ 9:46:pm No war yet.

Just say'n
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OP - Please explain - Iran has nukes in South America and will launch them?
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There are many websites that speak of the missile bases in South America.
Iranian missiles in Venezuela « The Greenroom
hotair.com/.../2010/12/09/iranian-missiles-in-venezuela -

Further - today it was joked about a nuclear bomb:Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Venezuela's Hugo Chavez lavished each other with praise in Caracas on Monday, mocked US disapproval and joked about having an atomic bomb at their disposal. [link to www.ynetnews.com]


SAD THING IS THEY ARE NOT JOKING
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01-09-2012 @ 9:46:pm No war yet.

Just say'n
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No day in the Middleeast from here on out will be normal, that does not mean today will be war, just saying the tension is going up and nations are not acting normal from here on out.
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OP - Please explain - Iran has nukes in South America and will launch them?
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There are many websites that speak of the missile bases in South America.
Iranian missiles in Venezuela « The Greenroom
hotair.com/.../2010/12/09/iranian-missiles-in-venezuela -

Further - today it was joked about a nuclear bomb:Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Venezuela's Hugo Chavez lavished each other with praise in Caracas on Monday, mocked US disapproval and joked about having an atomic bomb at their disposal. [link to www.ynetnews.com]


SAD THING IS THEY ARE NOT JOKING
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OP do you believe that this war will be on many fronts, including South America? Also, do you believe the wars will all begin at the same time?
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Syrian military visit Russian aircraft carrier

A Syrian military delegation has visited the Russian aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov that has stopped in the Syrian port of Tartous, the ITAR-TASS news agency reports. The delegation was led by Defense Minister General Dawood Rajiha who stressed the historic relations between Syria and Russia and praised Moscow’s stance in the ongoing conflict in Syria.

For his part, Russia's Ambassador to Syria Azamat Kulmukhametov said that the visit of the Russian vessels stresses the deep-rooted relations between the two countries. The Admiral Kuznetsov is leading a fleet of Russian naval vessels headed toward a naval exercise in the Mediterranean.

Turkey opposes new Iran sanctions

Ankara is resisting new sanctions against Iran despite strong pressure from the US, local media say. Washington wants Turkey to join new US sanctions against Tehran over its nuclear program. US Deputy Secretary of State William Burns pressed international sanctions on Iran during his visit to Ankara.

Turkey insists it will support only UN-backed sanctions. Iranian envoy to Ankara Bahman Hosseinpour has said the US aims to harm relations between Turkey and Iran. He also urged the two countries to put “good words” into action.
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AMD talks with US crumble; Russia beefs up early-warning radar

The Russian Defense Ministry announces plans for extensive new early-warning radar system as talks with US and NATO over the controversial European missile defense system hit the wall.
The announcement by the comes on the heels of President Dmitry Medvedev’s pledge to fortify national defense.
In addition to a newly inaugurated radar system located in Kaliningrad, several more radar stations will be placed on combat duty in 2012, Alexei Zolotukhin, an official with the Russian Defense Ministry press service for Aerospace Defense Troops, told reporters on Sunday.

"The new radar station Voronezh-DM, located in the Kaliningrad region, became part of the missile attack warning system in late 2011,” Zolotukhin said. “A radar station is fully ready to be put on combat duty in the Leningrad region. Another radar station has been launched in the Krasnodar Territory.”
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US builds hospitals in Georgia, readies for war with Iran

The United States is sponsoring the construction of facilities in Georgia on the threshold of a military conflict in Iran, a member of Georgian opposition movement Public Assembly, Elizbar Javelidze has stated.
According to the academician, that explains why President Mikhail Saakashvili is roaming the republic opening new hospitals in its regions.

“These are 20-bed hospitals…It’s an American project. A big war between the US and Iran is beginning in the Persian Gulf. $5 billion was allocated for the construction of these 20-bed military hospitals,” Javelidze said in an interview with Georgian paper Kviris Kronika (News of the Week), as cited by Newsgeorgia website.
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