World at War, Official 2012 Thread for Israel, Iran, Syria, Hezbollah, PA, Turkey, Egypt, Pakistan, India, North Korea, Russia, China, U.S.

here is the Debka link :
Russia is disengaging from Syria: Arms shipments stopped, warships exit Tartus

[link to debka.com]

any action that comes will either not be enough or will be more for face saving, the human disaster of this has done political damage that can't be reversed now. syrians will be pissed at the west for some time to come for not coming to their aid, they'll be angry with the russians for supporting assad, they will throw their support at al qaeda because as bad as they are they were at least on the ground assisting the rebels. Hell I could be wrong but that's how I see it now.

Last Edited by godzilla85 on 08/29/2012 01:30 PM

I'm sure from Israel's point of view the Fog of what is real and what is false is getting pretty thick. You're right MM, all it takes is a spark, whether it's true or not, all someone has to do is think spark and might be enough.

Despite PM's Efforts, Rabbi Ovadia Yosef Opposes Attack on Iran

Rabbi Ovadia Yosef has said that he would oppose any Israeli unilateral action against Iranian nuclear facilities.

[link to www.israelnationalnews.com]

Muppet urges Israelis to prepare in case of war
Moishe Oofnik, the Israeli version of Oscar the Grouch, puts a happy face on some grim warnings, instructions.
Photo: IDF/Reuters

The Israeli muppet on the cover of a new, emergency pamphlet being distributed nationwide puts a happy face on some grim warnings in a country preparing for possible war with Iran.

Israelis, the military-issued booklet says, would have only between 30 seconds and three minutes to find cover and hunker down between the time air raid sirens sound and rockets slam into their area.

[link to www.jpost.com]

that could be it for an attack getting cabinet approval

Researchers: Cyber spying is expanding in Iran
BOSTON - The scope of a cyber espionage campaign targeting Iran and other parts of the Middle East has widened, even after security experts blew the operation's cover last month, according to the research firm that discovered the Mahdi Trojan.

Israeli security company Seculert said that it has identified about 150 new Mahdi victims over the past six weeks as the developers of the virus have changed the code to evade detection from anti-virus programs. That has brought the total number of infections found so far to nearly 1,000, the bulk of them in Iran.
[link to www.jpost.com]

is an attack order a cabinet decision or is that something the PM can make on his/her own?

Well of course we can always say "it could be deception".

Otherwise, Dichter is actually the tie-breaking vote so they may still say "Bombs away".

yosef also opposed retaliating against iraq during desert storm, which was a big reason why israel just sat and took it

Meet the Israeli ‘Octet’ That Would Decide an Iran Attack
by Eli Lake Mar 9, 2012 10:00 AM EST


This week Israel's prime minister came very close to saying he intended to bomb Iran's nuclear infrastructure, but that’s not something he can decide alone. To order such an attack, Benjamin Netanyahu would need to persuade an informal “security cabinet” that represents the leaders of his political coalition.

The security cabinet is made up of eight senior government ministers including the prime minister. Its membership reflects the composition of the Knesset’s ruling majority, and Israeli leaders often use the body, now called the octet, to build consensus for the Jewish state’s most important decisions.


“A decision like this would rarely be brought to the full cabinet because it is a huge forum, and you can’t get 30 people to agree on anything,” says Chuck Freilich, a former deputy national-security adviser to two Israeli prime ministers. “Israel has a real problem with leaks. That is why the real strategic thinking is done in the octet and other, even smaller meetings.”


Israeli law requires that major national-security decisions, like signing peace accords or ordering airstrikes, must receive a majority vote in either the full cabinet or a smaller ministerial committee on national security—a panel comprising half the ministers of the full cabinet. (The current Israeli cabinet has 30 ministers, 15 of whom serve on the national-security committee.) But in practice, the decision of the octet is most vital.

[link to www.thedailybeast.com]

Is this true or not? Becuase a Russian general denied this?
And if not, what what is the underlying reason they would want to report that they are leaving if it is false?

What he said!!!

The man was put there for a reason!!!

he was

The Russians are only moving their personnel
from Tartus because they don't want them to die
there as unecessary "sitting ducks".
Like you say, weapons which could be used
include scalar varieties which the public
have never been exposed to before. None
of them require personnel in the area.

rt is reporting that another 3 soldiers have been killed by an insider attack in afghanistan... bastard iranians! i know these are YOUR spies! as for the russians leaving tartus, i don't believe its been confirmed. just the debka report is all ive seen saying their moving quietly out of syria. also reports on debka are saying a bomb has been defused at sinai university...

...and it is still raining...and it is still windy...I'm so bored!

To whoever wrote that horribly, disgusting, antisemitic, hate filled message to me when giving me a "Bad Karma" vote.

I will truly pray for you! I hope you one day realize how wrong you were to write what you did! It did not surprise me because, I know that this forum is full of "Anonymous Cowards" from all over the world. The name suits you! That's exactly what you are!

G-d will judge you!!! All of you "Anonymous Cowards!

Ignore them. Don't let them get to you !!

Peace..

Thanks! Brother!!!

Steve,

I don't know what was said to you, but you are one of the hero's on this thread, So please don't take any bs from anyone.

Lou512

Thanks Lou!



A lot of hate out there!

Probably a staunch Obama supporter, no doubt!

So the Russians actually did move out of Tartus even though a general has denied it? This is so confusing to me.. ( Yes or No? )

Last Edited by fromSouthCarolina on 08/29/2012 09:27 PM

got to remember russia still wants to look bad ass to the west so it won't openly admit to any kind of withdrawal or deal making with the west

It never ceases amaze me. You know 30 years ago you would have been hard pressed to find anyone that would have agreed with you that today people would hate Israel once again just as much as they promoted Hitler in his day. I remember the day my teenage daughter came home from school and told me that they were calling each other "J*E*W" in a derogatory sense.

Oh hell we're on a conspiracy forum and the dumb %&$#'s think they actually figured out "the big one". It's pathetic. THEY fell for the big one. Communism survives and THRIVES! Each generation is dumbed down (I swear no smarter than they are they were beaten about their heads with nothing short of bats). They stated what they would do and they did it. They've noneducated any common sense out of each generation. THEIR basis is there and the conclusions these idiots come to is exactly what they were taught. It all goes hand in hand and leads to the same place.

Hells bells, the Bible foretold EXACTLY THIS was going to happen but no one believes in YHVH anymore so why would they listen. I'm resigned not to fight the stupidity. They are buying it just the same as when they worshiped Hitler and the U.S. is turning into Germany. Conspiracy site. Haha. They (with the exception of a few) missed the big one. Geez, Mr. MB actually has sympathizers on here. Why not, there's more sympathy for Satan's seed than I ever could have imagined in my wildest dreams. The blind leading the blind while Clinton and Obozo are wetting themselves. They certainly have a most willing following don't they.

Morons, I've got morons on my team.

Keep it up Steve, some of us are smart enough to understand. I've closely followed the middle-east for over a decade and it's all falling into place. Fight the good fight.

don't let the bastards get you down, Steve
Am Yisroel Chai
whether they like it or not

Exactly...!

Thanks! and G-d bless you!!!