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World at War, Official 2012 Thread for Israel, Iran, Syria, Hezbollah, PA, Turkey, Egypt, Pakistan, India, North Korea, Russia, China, U.S.

 
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OP - Please explain - Iran has nukes in South America and will launch them?
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There are many websites that speak of the missile bases in South America.
Iranian missiles in Venezuela « The Greenroom
hotair.com/.../2010/12/09/iranian-missiles-in-venezuela -

Further - today it was joked about a nuclear bomb:Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Venezuela's Hugo Chavez lavished each other with praise in Caracas on Monday, mocked US disapproval and joked about having an atomic bomb at their disposal. [link to www.ynetnews.com]


SAD THING IS THEY ARE NOT JOKING
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OP do you believe that this war will be on many fronts, including South America? Also, do you believe the wars will all begin at the same time?
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If a spark ignites, it would be on multiple fronts. Whether that includes South American locations is a big maybe.
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Noone seems to have commented on the DEBKA's article saying Iran would detonate a bomb in 2012. That is probably due to the fact that many who have tracked this thread know that Iran is very close and I would be surprised if Iran did not detonate a nuclear device this year.

In the short term, the War Index is caled down, but in the long-term, we know what will happen.

WAR INDEX 9.9
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Thread: US drone attack kills four militants in Pakistan

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ISRAELI experts have begun planning for Iran to test a nuclear bomb within 12 months, according to leaked Israeli documents.
The Times reported that leading Israeli military and defence experts last week conducted a simulation of scenarios likely to occur in this event.

The experts are from Israel's Institute for National Security Studies, a think tank with close connections to the government. Their report has been sent to the Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu.

The simulation exercise was conducted in Tel Aviv last week by several of Israel's former defence and intelligence officials. Its conclusions suggested that a nuclear test by Iran would radically shift the power balance of the Middle East.

The report came as the UN nuclear watchdog, the International Atomic Energy Agency, said Iran had begun enriching uranium at its underground Fordow site to 20 per cent - the required level for a nuclear weapon.

Iran insists that its nuclear program is for civilian purposes, but analysts say enrichment is required only to 3 per cent for energy purposes.



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Arab League observer leaves Syria, accusing authorities of committing war crimes.

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US warships to oversee activities of Iran’s Navy

­The US is sending more Navy task force personnel to Iranian waters, according to media reports. A new group of the US Navy led by Carl Winson aircraft carrier has arrived to the Indian Ocean. Another group led by aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln is heading to the Arabian Sea. The Makin Island Amphibious Ready Group is now in the Middle East as well.
The US Fifth Fleet said the sailors, marines and airmen aboard the ships arrive after Iran’s recent threat to close the Strait of Hormuz. The USS John C. Stennis is not expected to return to the Persian Gulf, but will oversee Iran’s naval activities.
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We knew Israel would not back off from attacking Iran covertly still, even with American troops on Israeli land as part of an American effort to keep Israel from hitting Iran. Sources say that the hit today on one of the director’s of the Nantz nuclear project was aimed at ensursing that when Nantz and Fordo are hit, that there will not be administrators around who could put the pieces back together again very quickly. Of course, Israel is under the impression and assumption that she will or America will hit Iran. One could expect even more covert blows to Iran. At the same time, expect a few stray Hezbollah missiles across the Lebanese border when we know a covert hit was critical to the Iranian nuke development.

There has been quite some discussion that the Straight of Hormuz could be in play very soon. There will be three U.S. carrier groups within the area very soon. Iran’s economy is slowly bleeding out. At the same time, Iran is in the final precission stages of developing its nuclear weapons warheads as well as churning out highly enriched uranium above the 90% level.

Syria continues to kill and get away with it, but the Assad regime is too slowly bleeding out. Israel is still the target that Assad thinks will protect him.

North Korea continues to show offensive positioning of soldiers with the young new leader.

In summary: without a shooting war this day index remains below ten.

WAR INDEX 9.999
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Yes the carriers are on the move, but no not due to Iran, right.

The United States military said on Wednesday that a new aircraft carrier strike group had arrived in the Arabian Sea and that another was on its way to the region, but denied any link to recent tensions with Iran and portrayed the movements as routine.


The shift in the powerful US naval assets comes at a moment of heightened tensions with Iran, which has threatened to close the Strait of Hormuz - the world's most important oil shipping lane - if US and EU sanctions over its nuclear program cut off its oil exports. (Reuters)

[link to www.ynetnews.com]
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No worries, the UN will step in: U.S., EU slam Iran nuclear enrichment activity at Security Council meet

[link to www.haaretz.com]

Wait, oh "Increasing criticism will increase pressure on Iran to curb nuclear program, but a fifth round of UN sanctions unlikely due to resistance from Russia, China. "

Thus worry, no results at the UN.
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IAEA, U.S.: Iran enriching uranium to 'inappropriate' level
[link to www.haaretz.com]


The tensions build!
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IAEA, U.S.: Iran enriching uranium to 'inappropriate' level
[link to www.haaretz.com]


The tensions build!
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How do they KNOW Iran is enriching the uranium?
I'm new to the thread but i'd like to know about the war in the middle east more.
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IAEA, U.S.: Iran enriching uranium to 'inappropriate' level
[link to www.haaretz.com]


The tensions build!
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How do they KNOW Iran is enriching the uranium?
I'm new to the thread but i'd like to know about the war in the middle east more.
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Iran actually has let out that information to inspectors and they may in fact be allowed in every so often. One day though, the seals on equipment and cameras for the IAEA, and the VIP passes will be revoked. That is what Leon Panetta isbanking on as he says Iran is not building nuclear weapons yet. The yet is that they must acquire all the pieces, and then start to assemble it. Kinda like, someone laying the foundation for a house, acquiring all the lumber, wiring, septic, pipes, and roof, and then in two days building it. Oh, but only then is it called a house. Just like right now, all this effort by Iran does not mean Iran is seeking a nuclear weapon.

Also, jsut for fact sake, Israel has agents occassionally take soil samples near facilities and can easily find isotopes and uranium residue that provides a tell-tale sign of whatd egree of enrichment Iran is working towsrds.
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IAEA, U.S.: Iran enriching uranium to 'inappropriate' level
[link to www.haaretz.com]


The tensions build!
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How do they KNOW Iran is enriching the uranium?
I'm new to the thread but i'd like to know about the war in the middle east more.
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Iran actually has let out that information to inspectors and they may in fact be allowed in every so often. One day though, the seals on equipment and cameras for the IAEA, and the VIP passes will be revoked. That is what Leon Panetta isbanking on as he says Iran is not building nuclear weapons yet. The yet is that they must acquire all the pieces, and then start to assemble it. Kinda like, someone laying the foundation for a house, acquiring all the lumber, wiring, septic, pipes, and roof, and then in two days building it. Oh, but only then is it called a house. Just like right now, all this effort by Iran does not mean Iran is seeking a nuclear weapon.

Also, jsut for fact sake, Israel has agents occassionally take soil samples near facilities and can easily find isotopes and uranium residue that provides a tell-tale sign of whatd egree of enrichment Iran is working towsrds.
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JUST FOR EVERYONES REFERENCE. THINGS WILL COME TO A HEAD.AFTER JANUARY 20TH. THEN LOOK OUT FOR VERY LARGE EVENTS.lflash
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Do you think direct military action will take place before the end of January?
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IAEA, U.S.: Iran enriching uranium to 'inappropriate' level
[link to www.haaretz.com]


The tensions build!
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How do they KNOW Iran is enriching the uranium?
I'm new to the thread but i'd like to know about the war in the middle east more.
Subbed!
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Iran actually has let out that information to inspectors and they may in fact be allowed in every so often. One day though, the seals on equipment and cameras for the IAEA, and the VIP passes will be revoked. That is what Leon Panetta isbanking on as he says Iran is not building nuclear weapons yet. The yet is that they must acquire all the pieces, and then start to assemble it. Kinda like, someone laying the foundation for a house, acquiring all the lumber, wiring, septic, pipes, and roof, and then in two days building it. Oh, but only then is it called a house. Just like right now, all this effort by Iran does not mean Iran is seeking a nuclear weapon.

Also, jsut for fact sake, Israel has agents occassionally take soil samples near facilities and can easily find isotopes and uranium residue that provides a tell-tale sign of whatd egree of enrichment Iran is working towsrds.
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I see. This is a weird period in our lives, a period of transition.
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Do you think direct military action will take place before the end of January?
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There is a very strong probability of military action between Iranian/Syrian forces and western forces, perhaps Israeli and/or US/Britain.

Reasoning, The new moon is coming in a little over a week. Perfect time for a decapitating strike on Iranian nuclear infrastructure. Three US carriers may be in the vicinity of the Persian Gulf for a week period of time. US troops are in Israel for missile defense drills. Israel is ancie to stop the Iranian nuclear bomb dream. Iran is ancie to stop the economic and covert war against her. Syria is up to its eyeballs in militias counter weight to the Assad Regime. Assad's survivial he thinks is based upon an attack on Israel. Iran is rumored to be read to hit an Israeli diplomat in retaliation for the latest dead nuclear scientist. Israel may not sit back if it loses a diplomat.

Things against military action in January, if Iran backs down from its Straight of Hormuz threat, some may breathe a sigh of relief. Further, do I need say Obamah to say anymore. Further, US troops in Israel may be the force that keep Israel from launching any rogue campaign against anyone. Time, time always drags on on crucial critical decisions that should be made for the survival of a nation. Politicians are always willing to try to buy more time before taking decisive action.
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Heya Swin long time no post
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Heya Swin long time no post
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just re-registered after a spell as an ac
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Heya Swin long time no post
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just re-registered after a spell as an ac
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ok, hope you're doing well.
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Heya Swin long time no post
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just re-registered after a spell as an ac
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ok, hope you're doing well.
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So you see, Obamah is getting nervous over Israeli military movements this week. He even called Bibi whom we all know Obamah has said that he does not like and dreads having to work with. he purpose, to try to convince Bibi not to start anything in the MiddleEast including, quit killing nuclear scientists.

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So you see, Obamah is getting nervous over Israeli military movements this week. He even called Bibi whom we all know Obamah has said that he does not like and dreads having to work with. he purpose, to try to convince Bibi not to start anything in the MiddleEast including, quit killing nuclear scientists.

Right!

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Here is evidence of the not so good conversation.
Report: Obama Told Bibi to Explain Iran Hit
Obama called Netanyahu and demanded explanations on Israeli role in Iran assassination.
[link to www.israelnationalnews.com]
The television report also says that Obama sought to make clear to Netanyahu American expectations from Israel regarding Iran. The U.S. reportedly wants Israel to refrain from attacking Iran and to coordinate all Iran-related actions with Washington.

The White House said Obama “reiterated his unshakable commitment to Israel’s security, and the President and the prime minister promised to stay in touch in the coming weeks on these and other issues of mutual concern.”


OK - Bibi, this is a big fat red dot that Obamah, your big brother, does not want you, Israel, playing in the sand box and if a bad guy comes and threatens to kill you, so be it, unless Obamah stands up to challenge the bad guy, which of course he won't. So . . . Israel "Swing away"
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OK - Bibi, this is a big fat red dot that Obamah, your big brother, does not want you, Israel, playing in the sand box and if a bad guy comes and threatens to kill you, so be it, unless Obamah stands up to challenge the bad guy, which of course he won't. So . . . Israel "Swing away"


Swing away until they can't get up
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So we now hear Iran saying we will come forward with our nuclear misdeads, we will come clean. THat si what they have been leaking through diplomates for a month. Obamah has taken that to heart in preventing Israel from atatcking Iran. Obamah thought he could get Iran to come clean and remove all weapons manufacturing.
LET ME TELL YOU THIS OBAMA YOU ARE INCORRECT! FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO THINK ON JANUARY 28, 2012 THE IRANIANS WILL COME CLEAN, YOU HAVE ANOTHER COMING. FIRST, IRAN IS TRYING TO BUY TIME. SECOND, IRAN IS A CHESS PLAYER AND THEY ARE WILLLING TO GIVE UP A PAWN FOR A QUEEN. IRAN MAY REVEAL WHAT THEY ARE DOING BUT EVEN THEN THEY WILL NOT QUIT, NOTHING HAS STOPPED THEM YET.
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So we now hear Iran saying we will come forward with our nuclear misdeads, we will come clean. THat si what they have been leaking through diplomates for a month. Obamah has taken that to heart in preventing Israel from atatcking Iran. Obamah thought he could get Iran to come clean and remove all weapons manufacturing.
LET ME TELL YOU THIS OBAMA YOU ARE INCORRECT! FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO THINK ON JANUARY 28, 2012 THE IRANIANS WILL COME CLEAN, YOU HAVE ANOTHER COMING. FIRST, IRAN IS TRYING TO BUY TIME. SECOND, IRAN IS A CHESS PLAYER AND THEY ARE WILLLING TO GIVE UP A PAWN FOR A QUEEN. IRAN MAY REVEAL WHAT THEY ARE DOING BUT EVEN THEN THEY WILL NOT QUIT, NOTHING HAS STOPPED THEM YET.
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Amen to that...and let me add...if DHS is reading this..the president is an IDIOT...and he's going to get alot of people needlessly killed. Hit the Iranians now...hard...destroy their nuke program and be done with it...anything less...and I promise you...a city of people will pay the price in a nuclear explosion.....do you really want that on your conscience?
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So we now hear Iran saying we will come forward with our nuclear misdeads, we will come clean. THat si what they have been leaking through diplomates for a month. Obamah has taken that to heart in preventing Israel from atatcking Iran. Obamah thought he could get Iran to come clean and remove all weapons manufacturing.
LET ME TELL YOU THIS OBAMA YOU ARE INCORRECT! FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO THINK ON JANUARY 28, 2012 THE IRANIANS WILL COME CLEAN, YOU HAVE ANOTHER COMING. FIRST, IRAN IS TRYING TO BUY TIME. SECOND, IRAN IS A CHESS PLAYER AND THEY ARE WILLLING TO GIVE UP A PAWN FOR A QUEEN. IRAN MAY REVEAL WHAT THEY ARE DOING BUT EVEN THEN THEY WILL NOT QUIT, NOTHING HAS STOPPED THEM YET.
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Amen to that...and let me add...if DHS is reading this..the president is an IDIOT...and he's going to get alot of people needlessly killed. Hit the Iranians now...hard...destroy their nuke program and be done with it...anything less...and I promise you...a city of people will pay the price in a nuclear explosion.....do you really want that on your conscience?
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Same Sentiments . . . exactly.
It is very hard to read Obamah as one day he is calling up Israel and chastizing Bibi, the next day he has two carriers near the Straight of Hormuz and talks tough.

We really do not know this man, where he came from, what his thoughts are. What he beleives in. However, we do know he had friends that were outspoken anti-Israeli's. We know that he went to Palestinian supported fund-raisers. We know he had anti-US friends and even pastor. Some say he would argue why marxism is so good while in college besides what else he did behind closed doors with some alleged close friends. In summary, Obamah could have it out for Israel and he actually intends to leave Israel in a very tough lurch when the SHTF. One way to do so is to keep Israel from taking care of business all with the premise that the US will do it. Trust the US and we will even put troops on the ground in Israel. Then, the US promise of action is pushed off until Iran announces it is a nuclear power and then Obamah could say it is too late and that don't worry Israel you can live with a nuclear Iran. Then checkmate, Obamah knows Iran could then hurt his two least favorite governments, the US and Israel. In fact, rumor is that iran may acknowledge it is a nuclear power in the coming month or ven by Januar 28, 2012.
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a muslum and a liar who is pro Idrael?

Right? Who would believe that?

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