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World at War, Official 2012 Thread for Israel, Iran, Syria, Hezbollah, PA, Turkey, Egypt, Pakistan, India, North Korea, Russia, China, U.S.

 
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Former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice met with Foreign Minister Avigdor Liberman in Jerusalem on Sunday.

Rice, in the country to take part in a Motorola Solutions conference on homeland security, also met Sunday with Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu, and Kadima head Shaul Mofaz.

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Barak must still be back in Washington, otherwise I assume Condi woulda met with him?

Could he be "unofficially" at NATO?
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17:32 (10:32 GLP) IDF chief leaves for official visit to China (Haaretz)
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There will be an agreement on May 23 if Israel does not attack before then it will not happen until Iran attacks Israel.
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There will be an agreement on May 23 if Israel does not attack before then it will not happen until Iran attacks Israel.
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uhoh
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There will be an agreement on May 23 if Israel does not attack before then it will not happen until Iran attacks Israel.
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uhoh
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Israel will attack regardless!

It's hands are never tied!

They can take this BS agreement and shove it up their asses!!!

whatever skull_fing
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Maybe so but if they were going to attack I would have thought it would have been done by now. I think the US has so much pressure on them right now. As we all know nobody does anything unless the US says its okay LOL
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Maybe so but if they were going to attack I would have thought it would have been done by now. I think the US has so much pressure on them right now. As we all know nobody does anything unless the US says its okay LOL
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Obama is drooling over this upcoming deal!

The Israeli leadership is fully aware of his game!

They will not allow him to play them!

Israel will deal with these F***ed up, satanical mullahs in short order!!! abomb abomb abomb
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You wouldn't thinks so. But historically speaking every time God helped them or saved them in the old testament within 50-100 years later they had already forgotten what God had done for them. It has been 60+ years since the holocaust so its about time they forget again. Hope I am wrong but we shall see.
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You wouldn't thinks so. But historically speaking every time God helped them or saved them in the old testament within 50-100 years later they had already forgotten what God had done for them. It has been 60+ years since the holocaust so its about time they forget again. Hope I am wrong but we shall see.
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I know you are wrong!!!
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everything has been so quiet today...is that a good thing or a bad thing?
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In see before hard storm was full silent. Like this. Need ready for WWIII. As I understand from USA message send Russia (Donilon): "none of us may even have a world to live in before this year’s out".
After it understan, that USA wish start WWIII in this (2012) year. And, apparantly, before end this year would be nuclear war. And we all death before this year end.

I have one reason for preventing WWIII - is revolution in USA. But this fantastic. So need ready for nuclear war. Simple understand it.
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everything has been so quiet today...is that a good thing or a bad thing?
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In see before hard storm was full silent. Like this. Need ready for WWIII. As I understand from USA message send Russia (Donilon): "none of us may even have a world to live in before this year’s out".
After it understan, that USA wish start WWIII in this (2012) year. And, apparantly, before end this year would be nuclear war. And we all death before this year end.

I have one reason for preventing WWIII - is revolution in USA. But this fantastic. So need ready for nuclear war. Simple understand it.
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Strangely enough, I get what you are saying!!!

This plan was put into place a long time ago!!!
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Maybe so but if they were going to attack I would have thought it would have been done by now. I think the US has so much pressure on them right now. As we all know nobody does anything unless the US says its okay LOL
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In late May 1967, Israeli Prime Minister Levi Eshkol dispatched his foreign minister, Abba Eban, to Washington. Egyptian and Syrian troops were pressing on Israel’s borders; Egypt had imposed a naval blockade on the Straits of Tiran, Israel’s shipping route to the east. Eban’s request of President Lyndon Johnson was that America honor its commitment to back military action if Egypt blocked the Straits of Tiran. That commitment had been made by Secretary of State John Foster Dulles in 1957, to secure Israeli withdrawal from the Sinai desert following the 1956 Suez War. Only a declaration by Johnson that he intended to immediately open the straits to Israeli shipping even at the risk of war—one idea was for the U.S. to lead an international flotilla—could stop a unilateral Israeli strike. Though Johnson was viscerally pro-Israel, he proved unable or unwilling to honor Dulles’ commitment. Preoccupied with Vietnam, Johnson wasn’t ready to support another war, let alone initiate one.

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Nothing is based on COINCIDENCE, nothing!!!
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Maybe so but if they were going to attack I would have thought it would have been done by now. I think the US has so much pressure on them right now. As we all know nobody does anything unless the US says its okay LOL
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In late May 1967, Israeli Prime Minister Levi Eshkol dispatched his foreign minister, Abba Eban, to Washington. Egyptian and Syrian troops were pressing on Israel’s borders; Egypt had imposed a naval blockade on the Straits of Tiran, Israel’s shipping route to the east. Eban’s request of President Lyndon Johnson was that America honor its commitment to back military action if Egypt blocked the Straits of Tiran. That commitment had been made by Secretary of State John Foster Dulles in 1957, to secure Israeli withdrawal from the Sinai desert following the 1956 Suez War. Only a declaration by Johnson that he intended to immediately open the straits to Israeli shipping even at the risk of war—one idea was for the U.S. to lead an international flotilla—could stop a unilateral Israeli strike. Though Johnson was viscerally pro-Israel, he proved unable or unwilling to honor Dulles’ commitment. Preoccupied with Vietnam, Johnson wasn’t ready to support another war, let alone initiate one.

[link to www.tnr.com]
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Seems like history might be on the verge of repeating itself, my friend!
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So you all think it will start soon, like days or later (months) ?
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This plan was put into place a long time ago!!!
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Donilon meet with Putin 5 may 2012 year. Not so long ago. And this was said him 5 may 2012 year.
Near future would be NATO/Israel attack in Syria/Iran and WWIII start. This near future is 2012 year.
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So you all think it will start soon, like days or later (months) ?
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Before July 4th.
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So you all think it will start soon, like days or later (months) ?
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Before July 4th.
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damned
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Before July 4th.
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Agree. May be 24 may this year yet. All know, that Iran not capture before NATO/Israel 23 may. After it Israel can attack Iran and WWIII start. Now Israel wait Iran capitulation 23 may. And so not attack Iran himself yet.
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So you all think it will start soon, like days or later (months) ?
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Before July 4th.
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damned
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I'd say within a week, two weeks tops
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So you all think it will start soon, like days or later (months) ?
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Before July 4th.
 Quoting: Steve5728


damned
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I'd say within a week, two weeks tops
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G. It's gonna be an interesting week for sure!

Lets see where things stand by Fri. the 25th!
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Addressing a defense gathering here in Tehran on Sunday, General Firouzabadi said that nations should realize the threats and dangers posed by the Zionist regime of Israel.

He reiterated the Iranian nation and Supreme Leader's emphasis on the necessity of support for the oppressed Palestinian nation and its causes, and noted, "The Iranian nation is standing for its cause that is the full annihilation of Israel."

The top military official reminded that the Iranian Supreme Leader considers defending Palestine as a full religious duty and believes that any kind of governance and rule by anyone other than the Palestinians as an instance of usurpation.

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THESE GUYS NEED TO BE EXTERMINATED ASAP!!! rocket rocket
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[link to www.debka.com]

If there is any truth in this article...this is the dumbest move the Israeli govt has done, and it will do so at the risk of millions of lives of their citizens, they have basically put their future in the lives of a man who does not and let me emphasize DOES NOT have the best interest of the Israeli people in mind. The only thing he's interested in is getting re elected...and if he had to throw Israel to the wolves to be devoured to do so make no mistake he will allow it to happen.

If Netanyahu is actually going with this move...is borderline treasonous and dereliction of his duty to protect his country.
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You wouldn't thinks so. But historically speaking every time God helped them or saved them in the old testament within 50-100 years later they had already forgotten what God had done for them. It has been 60+ years since the holocaust so its about time they forget again. Hope I am wrong but we shall see.
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THIS!!!!!!!!!
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[link to www.debka.com]

If there is any truth in this article...this is the dumbest move the Israeli govt has done, and it will do so at the risk of millions of lives of their citizens, they have basically put their future in the lives of a man who does not and let me emphasize DOES NOT have the best interest of the Israeli people in mind. The only thing he's interested in is getting re elected...and if he had to throw Israel to the wolves to be devoured to do so make no mistake he will allow it to happen.

If Netanyahu is actually going with this move...is borderline treasonous and dereliction of his duty to protect his country.
 Quoting: godzilla85


[link to www.haaretz.com]

Israel inches closer to compromise on Iran uranium enrichment, officials say
Ehud Barak issued statement that Israel would consent to Iran's continuing enrichment of uranium to a low level of 3.5 percent.

G. I PRAY WITH ALL MY MIGHT THAT THIS IS NOT TRUE!!!

I HOPE TO G-D THAT IT'S NOT TRUE!!!

I guess we will have to wait unit the 24th to see???
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[link to www.debka.com]

If there is any truth in this article...this is the dumbest move the Israeli govt has done, and it will do so at the risk of millions of lives of their citizens, they have basically put their future in the lives of a man who does not and let me emphasize DOES NOT have the best interest of the Israeli people in mind. The only thing he's interested in is getting re elected...and if he had to throw Israel to the wolves to be devoured to do so make no mistake he will allow it to happen.

If Netanyahu is actually going with this move...is borderline treasonous and dereliction of his duty to protect his country.
 Quoting: godzilla85


[link to www.haaretz.com]

Israel inches closer to compromise on Iran uranium enrichment, officials say
Ehud Barak issued statement that Israel would consent to Iran's continuing enrichment of uranium to a low level of 3.5 percent.

G. I PRAY WITH ALL MY MIGHT THAT THIS IS NOT TRUE!!!

I HOPE TO G-D THAT IT'S NOT TRUE!!!

I guess we will have to wait unit the 24th to see???
 Quoting: Steve5728


Steve I don't know what blinders they got on over there but come on man anyone with a shred of common sense knows this is a setup, he's just telling em things they wanna hear and lull them back into a false sense of security. I'm not advocating for war, but there comes a time when actions speak louder than words. They can hit it now..and have a marginal risk of WMD release..or they can wait...sit on their sorry asses..let the Iranians build the nukes (no way in hell they will honor the commitment whatever it is, it's the North Korean forumula they are following here) Let Tel Aviv or Jerusalem get wiped out...kill a few million people..have the nerve to be surprised by it and cry foul...then have a massive horrifying war that kills more than we could ever count.

There is no silver lining in this messy situation...there is just ways to manage it so it doesn't become the end of humanity scenario no sane minded person wants to see happen.
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[link to www.debka.com]

If there is any truth in this article...this is the dumbest move the Israeli govt has done, and it will do so at the risk of millions of lives of their citizens, they have basically put their future in the lives of a man who does not and let me emphasize DOES NOT have the best interest of the Israeli people in mind. The only thing he's interested in is getting re elected...and if he had to throw Israel to the wolves to be devoured to do so make no mistake he will allow it to happen.

If Netanyahu is actually going with this move...is borderline treasonous and dereliction of his duty to protect his country.
 Quoting: godzilla85


[link to www.haaretz.com]

Israel inches closer to compromise on Iran uranium enrichment, officials say
Ehud Barak issued statement that Israel would consent to Iran's continuing enrichment of uranium to a low level of 3.5 percent.

G. I PRAY WITH ALL MY MIGHT THAT THIS IS NOT TRUE!!!

I HOPE TO G-D THAT IT'S NOT TRUE!!!

I guess we will have to wait unit the 24th to see???
 Quoting: Steve5728


Steve I don't know what blinders they got on over there but come on man anyone with a shred of common sense knows this is a setup, he's just telling em things they wanna hear and lull them back into a false sense of security. I'm not advocating for war, but there comes a time when actions speak louder than words. They can hit it now..and have a marginal risk of WMD release..or they can wait...sit on their sorry asses..let the Iranians build the nukes (no way in hell they will honor the commitment whatever it is, it's the North Korean forumula they are following here) Let Tel Aviv or Jerusalem get wiped out...kill a few million people..have the nerve to be surprised by it and cry foul...then have a massive horrifying war that kills more than we could ever count.

There is no silver lining in this messy situation...there is just ways to manage it so it doesn't become the end of humanity scenario no sane minded person wants to see happen.
 Quoting: godzilla85


I hope the Israeli leadership realizes this.

This motherf***ing Obama would love to see Israel destroyed!!!

Hopefully this leaked information is just a ruze!!!
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[link to www.debka.com]

If there is any truth in this article...this is the dumbest move the Israeli govt has done, and it will do so at the risk of millions of lives of their citizens, they have basically put their future in the lives of a man who does not and let me emphasize DOES NOT have the best interest of the Israeli people in mind. The only thing he's interested in is getting re elected...and if he had to throw Israel to the wolves to be devoured to do so make no mistake he will allow it to happen.

If Netanyahu is actually going with this move...is borderline treasonous and dereliction of his duty to protect his country.
 Quoting: godzilla85


[link to www.haaretz.com]

Israel inches closer to compromise on Iran uranium enrichment, officials say
Ehud Barak issued statement that Israel would consent to Iran's continuing enrichment of uranium to a low level of 3.5 percent.

G. I PRAY WITH ALL MY MIGHT THAT THIS IS NOT TRUE!!!

I HOPE TO G-D THAT IT'S NOT TRUE!!!

I guess we will have to wait unit the 24th to see???
 Quoting: Steve5728


Steve I don't know what blinders they got on over there but come on man anyone with a shred of common sense knows this is a setup, he's just telling em things they wanna hear and lull them back into a false sense of security. I'm not advocating for war, but there comes a time when actions speak louder than words. They can hit it now..and have a marginal risk of WMD release..or they can wait...sit on their sorry asses..let the Iranians build the nukes (no way in hell they will honor the commitment whatever it is, it's the North Korean forumula they are following here) Let Tel Aviv or Jerusalem get wiped out...kill a few million people..have the nerve to be surprised by it and cry foul...then have a massive horrifying war that kills more than we could ever count.

There is no silver lining in this messy situation...there is just ways to manage it so it doesn't become the end of humanity scenario no sane minded person wants to see happen.
 Quoting: godzilla85


I hope the Israeli leadership realizes this.

This motherf***ing Obama would love to see Israel destroyed!!!

Hopefully this leaked information is just a ruze!!!
 Quoting: Steve5728


I hope so, I really do
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MM, please comment on this when possible!!!

Awaiting your thoughts dude!!!
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MM, please comment on this when possible!!!

Awaiting your thoughts dude!!!
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MM, please comment on this when possible!!!

Awaiting your thoughts dude!!!
 Quoting: Steve5728


Of course we do not know what the deal will be exactly, but every time Israel is close to attacking, the Us suckers them and forces them to concede a deal. Unfortunately, as we have heard for far too long, Israel is complacent and willing to wait things out for another month to give the US time on the diplomatic front. I do know that the way to release the relief valve is for Israel to fight the HeBollah and I am still looking for a fight and Israel hopes that by taking out the Hezbollah arm of Iran, Iran will be set up with no help from friends as to either work with the US and Israel or go to war alone. Israel knows that any war with the Hezbollah will be sufficient to force the Iranian hand too. thus it may be true but Israel is not going to wait forever to be set up. she may act herself on the Hezbollah very soon.





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