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I am Extremely Concerned. WHY do "WE" Need to Invade Anyone?

 
Walden Schmidt  (OP)

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The Pacific is on it's own right now...

Australia and New Zealand have the greater part of controlling that Theater ...

They have Taiwan and Japan, to back them up.

Formidable ... but, for how long? Against China, and Russia?

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The USA and Great Britain, along with European Allies are deployed in the Mediterranean, Black Sea and Persian Gulf,,

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We laugh and "Poo-Poo" the Islamic forces ...

These troops are very serious.. well trained and VERY Nationalistic and Loyal... There may be feuding factions ... But, in a GREATER conflict, those disagreements will be set aside for the Greater Cause...

"The Enemy of MY Enemy ... is MY FRIEND!".

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Do NOT DOUBT ... Iraq is as far distant a foe to the USA and the West, as Iran represents the dreaded invasion of Japan, in WWII:

Iran WILL fight .... with everything ... EVERYTHING ... They have.
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WHY do "WE" Need to Invade Anyone?


Because if you don't invade israel they will turn America into Palestine. If you don't invade the terrorist state of israel they will continue to carry out false flags like 911..


The ending of wars is simple. You aim nukes at rothchild's and rockerfellers private Islands and castles. You tell them one more illegal war and you will be nuked. End of all wars.

See how simple it is.
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Sounds simple, doesn't it?

BUT, until they run to these "Islands" it can't be done....

As long as the ones that you mention stay on our shores, we cannot threaten them, without threatening ourselves....

Simple...

Isn't it?

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THIS is the current Mindset:

And... In a Civilized Society, it is Valid:



[link to deyanbrashich.com]


DEYAN RANKO BRASHICH


DO NOT LET LOOSE THE DOGS OF WAR
Tuesday, November 15, 2011



New York City Police in full riot gear, plastic face shields in place, batons in hand cleared Zucotti Park early this morning. As I watch the confrontations and abuse by the police, municipal and state, in dealing with OWS protesters, I cry warning, rephrasing Shakespeare: “Do not cry havoc, do not let loose the Dogs of War.”

Whatever your views on the methods of this protest, most seem to agree that this ill defined movement confirms that there is plenty to bitch about the state we are in. Usurious credit card interest rates, student loans never to be repaid, joblessness in the double digits, foreclosures continuing apace, whatever else destroys the body politic.

Authorities ignore that America is a society weaned on guns. To date no one has responded to the authorities’ abuse of force with more than a measured civil disobedience response, some bottles hurled, punches thrown and some garbage cans set alight. This response truly sets us apart from the riots in Greece, France and England.

But all that is needed is a spark to set off a catastrophe. The use of unconstrained force will result in a like response. A night of protest can easily turn into a night of the long knives, or in the case of America, days of long guns.

As long as the protests remain but a civil peaceful complaint, let them be. Let the voice of protest be heard and not be silenced unless it truly impinges on all of our rights. To do otherwise will surely lead to class warfare we can ill afford.
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[link to www.wired.com]



Iran Is This Close to Getting a Nuke. Maybe.



(March 2, 2009):

"Admiral Mike Mullen, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, raised the alarm yesterday over Iran’s nuclear activities. In an interview with CNN, he said Iran "might now have enough fissile material to make a bomb." And a nuclear-armed Iran, he added, "is a very, very bad outcome for the region and for the world."

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Israel Haters could accept a "Hiroshima-Type Device" on Tel-Aviv ... What if it was on the Pyramids at Cairo, or our Allies in Riyadh ... or in Johannesburg?

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(2009):

"So when do we start worrying? As this sober analysis in Time points out, almost 800 kilograms of low-enriched uranium has passed through the centrifuges at Natanz, and those stocks are monitored and under seal. For Iran to make a single, crude bomb, it would need highly enriched uranium. That would mean kicking out international inspectors, reconfiguring the cascades and re-enriching the low-enriched material. Experts reckon it would take months for that to happen, enough time for a dramatic international response. Even if successful in developing a Hiroshima-style device, Iran would not have anything that could be packaged on, say, a ballistic missile.".

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(2009):

"A 2007 national intelligence estimate concluded that Iran halted work on its covert nuclear weapons program in 2003, but that conclusion has now been consigned to the dustbin.

The threat assessment delivered earlier this month by Dennis Blair, the Director of National Intelligence, puts it bluntly: "Although we do not know whether Iran currently intends to develop nuclear weapons, we assess Tehran at a minimum is keeping open the option to develop them." .

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Please...

Let it be a 'surgical strike' at the locations that are identified as critical in developing the materials necessary to put the weapon together.

God spare the innocents, and DAMN the authorities who, intentionally, put innocents in harm's way.

The road to hell is wide...
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It even has a name: The War Business.
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Sadly, YES!


It IS the business that will reduce the population, while increasing the profits of warmongers!

What are a few hundred-thousands lives lost at the greater profit of the War Machine?

Come!

Join US!

We only ask you to DIE for the greater GOOD!

(OUR Good!) ...

Signed:

The Powers That RULE!

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WHY?

Do we not ALL have enough on our Plates?
You and I Have enough to occupy us...
Do the "Powers that Be" just NOT have enough?

 Quoting: Walden Schmidt


Why?
...because...this is the ENDGAME for the USA Progressive/Socialist movement.
They are doing this to usher in the NWO SOCIALIST WORLD they envisioned years ago.



Suggest you listen to this Glen Beck video for RON PAUL.
The caller DOESNT GET IT...and Beck explains.


This is also why I have been saying you cannot put another RINO in office.
The USA is done then.

Glenn Beck tells America WE MUST support Ron Paul




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Look, you Canadian Prick!:

My point is that we should NOT Invade Iran!


I am sick of your pretentious anti-US bashing whenever someone has a thoughtful comment.


Just sit back, eat whatever it is that you eat... drink whatever it is that you drink...

You say you don't care...

Well...

DON't CARE!


STFU!


You have nothing to contribute.


BE NEUTRAL!
 Quoting: Walden Schmidt


Obama is the Mahdi the freaks in Iran have been waiting for. If not, their so called Mahdi is already here...somewhere.

This so called MESSIAH wants war.

Wake up people!
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Obama is the Mahdi the freaks in Iran have been waiting for. If not, their so called Mahdi is already here...somewhere.
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How do you know what the Iranians think? Did they tell you? Do you have a direct line to the Iranians? ARE YOU AN IRANIAN SPY?????
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It's not so much about reducing the population. How many dead in Iraq...1 million? Maybe 10 million once all the Depleted Uranium cancers take their victims.

10 million out of billions is nothing. Even 100 million.

It's more about controlling the living, and it will not stop in the middle east. This ultimate control mentality is coming for everybody.

Don't kid yourself, just look around already.

By cheering it on, you doom you children, grandchildren etc to a life of it.
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It's not so much about reducing the population. How many dead in Iraq...1 million? Maybe 10 million once all the Depleted Uranium cancers take their victims.

10 million out of billions is nothing. Even 100 million.

It's more about controlling the living, and it will not stop in the middle east. This ultimate control mentality is coming for everybody.

Don't kid yourself, just look around already.

By cheering it on, you doom you children, grandchildren etc to a life of it.
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^^^^^ This
You nailed it buddy.


Welcome to the ENDGAME of the PROGRESSIVE movement.


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WHY?

Do we not ALL have enough on our Plates?


You and I Have enough to occupy us...


Do the "Powers that Be" just NOT have enough?



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rare position to take on glp
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It's not so much about reducing the population. How many dead in Iraq...1 million? Maybe 10 million once all the Depleted Uranium cancers take their victims.

10 million out of billions is nothing. Even 100 million.

It's more about controlling the living, and it will not stop in the middle east. This ultimate control mentality is coming for everybody.

Don't kid yourself, just look around already.

By cheering it on, you doom you children, grandchildren etc to a life of it.
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^^^^^ This
You nailed it buddy.


Welcome to the ENDGAME of the PROGRESSIVE movement.


:compost:
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seems like both fascist and communist ideologies have same need to control other
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you need to invade because President Obama says so.
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"Obama is the Mahdi the freaks in Iran have been waiting for. If not, their so called Mahdi is already here...somewhere.

This so called MESSIAH wants war.

Wake up people!"

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You know...

I have REALLY wondered at this prophecy...

I have watched Ahmajinedad ... his statements:

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And then THIS:



February 22, 2011

Obama Retreats, Ahmadinejad Advances:


By James Lewis




[link to www.americanthinker.com]



When Saddam Hussein's tank battalions brutally invaded Kuwait in 1990, the United States was able to knock Saddam's Air Force out of the sky in a matter of days. In the subsequent tank battles the United States ruled the air. After kicking Saddam out of Kuwait we maintained a no-fly zone over half of Iraq for the next six years, thereby stabilizing the Gulf on both sides. Where the USAF and USN ruled the skies Saddam could not launch a single plane or missile. The world's oil supply was protected, allowing European leftists to drive their cars at reasonable gas prices to noisy demonstrations to scream and rage at us, all because Uncle Sam was the good cop and kept them free.

Being the good cop has been our role for sixty years, ever since World War II; it's the single biggest reason we haven't had a World War III. Yet.

But Obama is now stopping the United States from being the good cop to keep the peace in the Middle East. Pax Americana is in retreat, step by step, and truly barbaric regimes are rearing their ugly heads all the way from Myanmar to the tip of South America. This administration is either grossly incompetent in foreign affairs, or it is genuinely self-destructive; it doesn't matter which. In the case of the mob-staged coup d'etat against Mubarak, Obama seemed more malevolent than ignorant, but the result is still the same. Egypt's reactionary Muslim Brotherhood is even now picking up all the chips Obama has lost in the latest farce. In Tahrir Square the new Ayatollah Khomeini of Egypt just came back from exile and addressed a million shouting supporters. Google's little twitter mobber Ghonim was kept off the stage. Only the US press was assaulted. The next time will be worse.

We are witnessing an exact copy of Jimmy Carter's abandonment of a pro-Western and fairly enlightened Iran in 1979. Carter allowed the first radical Islamist power to consolidate in the Middle East; more than a million people died in the war that followed. Jimmy still maintains his innocence, just as he's telling us now there's nothing to fear from the Muslim Bros, in spite of their famous five Rules for Islamic Radicals. They make Alinsky look like a guppy next to a Great White shark.

Obama has now pushing our thirty-year ally Hosni Mubarak out of power, letting the biggest country in the Middle East be radicalized. Meanwhile Turkey has fallen to another offshoot the Muslim Brotherhood. Gaza is under the thumb of Hamas after Israel gave in to US pressure to retreat, Lebanon is now run by Hezbollah, and Syria is allied with Ahmadinejad. No wonder all the bad guys are celebrating.

Every time Obama retreats, Ahmadinejad advances, step by step, like a chess master playing against a panicked rookie. You can see checkmate coming way ahead of time.

The United States still has overwhelming military and political power, but under Obama we have retreated from the Gulf, leaving the Saudis in a panic, ready to import nukes from Pakistan; we have retreated from our promise to defend Europe against Iranian and Russian missiles, and now we have allowed the biggest Arab power, Egypt, to be overthrown by what looks to be another Islamist radical fanatic, who will place Egypt on a war footing with Israel and the West.

In the last two years of Obama we given up five strategic bottlenecks, count ‘em:

1. The Strait of Hormuz, through which 40 percent of the world's oil flows. The Iranians have dug in very deep with ship-targeting missiles on their side of the Strait, and it will be like Iwo Jima to get them out of there. They can close the Strait any time they feel like it.

2. The Suez Canal, thereby putting pressure on the Mediterranean.

3. Somalia and the Atlantic bulge of Africa, where Somali pirates (protected by the Islamist forces in Somalia) are still free to blackmail world shipping.

4. Israel and its more peaceful Arab neighbors --- Lebanon, Egypt, and soon, perhaps, Jordan.

5. The missile flight routes from Iran to Europe.

At the same time the Obama administration has blocked and sabotaged domestic oil production.

This is a chess game in which we are simultaneously being threatened in five different places on the board, and we keep sacrificing our own pieces for no net gain.
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1. The Strait of Hormuz, through which 40 percent of the world's oil flows. The Iranians have dug in very deep with ship-targeting missiles on their side of the Strait, and it will be like Iwo Jima to get them out of there. They can close the Strait any time they feel like it.
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too bad, it's their country, they can do what they like in there.
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1. The Strait of Hormuz, through which 40 percent of the world's oil flows. The Iranians have dug in very deep with ship-targeting missiles on their side of the Strait, and it will be like Iwo Jima to get them out of there. They can close the Strait any time they feel like it.
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too bad, it's their country, they can do what they like in there.
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no straight of Hormuz is a western controlled region.ask anybody
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you need to invade because President Obama says so.
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more properly,haliburton+raython+boeing+other defence contractors say so
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This pause is brought to you by The Powers that COULD be:










You may now RESUME you Discussion:
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no straight of Hormuz is a western controlled region.ask anybody
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Isn't part of it Iranian waters, and part of it Omani waters?
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It's not so much about reducing the population. How many dead in Iraq...1 million? Maybe 10 million once all the Depleted Uranium cancers take their victims.

10 million out of billions is nothing. Even 100 million.

It's more about controlling the living, and it will not stop in the middle east. This ultimate control mentality is coming for everybody.

Don't kid yourself, just look around already.

By cheering it on, you doom you children, grandchildren etc to a life of it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7852803



^^^^^ This
You nailed it buddy.


Welcome to the ENDGAME of the PROGRESSIVE movement.


compost
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


seems like both fascist and communist ideologies have same need to control other
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Yes....they do.

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"too bad, it's their country, they can do what they like in there.".


NO.


It's like the Panama Canal or the Southern tip of Africa...


The WORLD needs these resources...


Communist - Democratic - Neutral:


ALL the world needs this Access to global trade...


Certain Choke-Points belong to ALL of the world....


NO SINGLE COUNTRY controls them ... and IF they try to shut them down...


Then they FACE the WRATH of the WORLD...


Plain and simple!

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no straight of Hormuz is a western controlled region.ask anybody
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Isn't part of it Iranian waters, and part of it Omani waters?
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technically.but anything that harms western interests is their own territory
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"too bad, it's their country, they can do what they like in there.".


NO.


It's like the Panama Canal or the Southern tip of Africa...


The WORLD needs these resources...


Communist - Democratic - Neutral:


ALL the world needs this Access to global trade...


Certain Choke-Points belong to ALL of the world....


NO SINGLE COUNTRY controls them ... and IF they try to shut them down...


Then they FACE the WRATH of the WORLD...


Plain and simple!
 Quoting: Walden Schmidt


so you want to take over Iranian and Omani territorial waters for your own use. maybe it would be smarter to find another route for your precious oil.
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no straight of Hormuz is a western controlled region.ask anybody
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Isn't part of it Iranian waters, and part of it Omani waters?
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technically.but anything that harms western interests is their own territory
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And, By the way...


You Communist poster...


How old are you?

And have you ever ASKED anyone who has lived under Communist rule about their lives during that time?


You DO realise that Russia and China have modified their Governments, and that North Korea is Starving?


Go for it, Though!
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"too bad, it's their country, they can do what they like in there.".


NO.


It's like the Panama Canal or the Southern tip of Africa...


The WORLD needs these resources...


Communist - Democratic - Neutral:


ALL the world needs this Access to global trade...


Certain Choke-Points belong to ALL of the world....


NO SINGLE COUNTRY controls them ... and IF they try to shut them down...


Then they FACE the WRATH of the WORLD...


Plain and simple!
 Quoting: Walden Schmidt


since usa is economic centre of world,it doesnt belong to americans alone.every country in world have right to on and control some piece of america
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My Indian Friend...

I said THIS:

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It's like the Panama Canal or the Southern tip of Africa...


The WORLD needs these resources...


Communist - Democratic - Neutral:


ALL the world needs this Access to global trade...


Certain Choke-Points belong to ALL of the world...."

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YOU said that "America", ( I suppose that you mean the United States ?) ... Should belong to all the world?


As much as our elected Legislators would like to HAND our Country over to the "World" ... THAT ain't gonna happen, at least in MY lifetime!


See... We have votes... and we have GUNS..

And IF the "VOTES" seem that they are wrong... NOT what we asked our Legislators to do on our behalf...

WE HAVE GUNS!


And... We KNOW how to use them!

Drop by and see us...

We'll take you WAY BACK in the woods, and show YOU how we use them!


There's LOTS of woodland in the USA!
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