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OMG, HAS ANYONE EVER READ THIS, THIS IS A MUST READ!!!! IT IS NEARLY AN ARBITRARY DOCUMENT IN THESE TIMES AND AT SOME POINT WE WILL FIGHT FOR IT.

 
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OMG, HAS ANYONE EVER READ THIS, THIS IS A MUST READ!!!! IT IS NEARLY AN ARBITRARY DOCUMENT IN THESE TIMES AND AT SOME POINT WE WILL FIGHT FOR IT.
IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.
He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.
He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.
He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences
For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:
For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

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voting on what to
have for lunch.
Liberty is a
well-armed lamb
contesting the vote"
~ Benjamin Franklin.
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Wow, no one cares, seriously, no one cares. I give up. Fucking let them take everything. "and they will". I can promise you that.

IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
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"Democracy is two
wolves and a lamb
voting on what to
have for lunch.
Liberty is a
well-armed lamb
contesting the vote"
~ Benjamin Franklin.
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How many more of our liberties are we willing to give up to keep the status quoe? We are in this so that our children do not grow up in a toxic environment of hate and totalitatian governship.
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How many more of our liberties are we willing to give up to keep the status quoe? We are in this so that our children do not grow up in a toxic environment of hate and totalitatian governship.
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How many more of our liberties are we willing to give up to keep the status quoe? We are in this so that our children do not grow up in a toxic environment of hate and totalitatian governship.
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IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.
He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.
He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.
He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences
For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:
For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our Brittish brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.

So, as you may have read, that when A government becomes destructive to those ends, it is our right, our duty, to shed this government and either abolish it or modify it.

We need not abolish it, it simply needs to be taken back into the hands of the "governed". According the Obama's new llaw, posting the constitution could possibly be considered a threat against "The Government", not the "National Security", simply the corrupt Government that needs modified.

How many more of our liberties are we willing to give up to keep the status quoe? We are in this so that our children do not grow up in a toxic environment of hate and totalitatian governship.

Semper Fi
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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government,bumpbumpbumpbump
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You would be ASTONISHED at how many LAWYERS (under the age of 40) have never read this!!!!!!!!!!
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You can get free copies of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights - usually from campaign offices or second ammendment groups and at gun shows.

I have a handful and give them out to whoever wants them.

My kids (25-23) all have a copy, as do their kids.

Unfortunately (and I think this should be illegal) it is NOT taught in public schools. Nothing but the DATE is taught, so our kids will not know unless YOU teach them!
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You can get free copies of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights - usually from campaign offices or second ammendment groups and at gun shows.

I have a handful and give them out to whoever wants them.

My kids (25-23) all have a copy, as do their kids.

Unfortunately (and I think this should be illegal) it is NOT taught in public schools. Nothing but the DATE is taught, so our kids will not know unless YOU teach them!
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It used to be taught, along with the pledge of Allegiance.
"Democracy is two
wolves and a lamb
voting on what to
have for lunch.
Liberty is a
well-armed lamb
contesting the vote"
~ Benjamin Franklin.
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" At the siege of Vienna in 1683 Islam seemed poised to overrun Christian Europe. We are in a new phase of a very old war."

Gates of Vienna.

"May we smite our enemies to the darkest chamber of hell, for we wish only to live in peace, and they desire only to put their boot upon our neck."
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Thank you.
"Democracy is two
wolves and a lamb
voting on what to
have for lunch.
Liberty is a
well-armed lamb
contesting the vote"
~ Benjamin Franklin.
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Thank you.
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From 'Civic Requirements and Guidelines' on the web site of the National Alliance of Civic Education:


"Beyond general instruction, a number of states have enacted laws that require some form of assessment. Illinois law states that "American patriotism and the principles of representative government, as enunciated in the American Declaration of Independence, the Constitution of the United States of America and the Constitution of the State of Illinois, and the proper use and display of the American flag shall be taught…No student shall receive a certificate of graduation without passing a satisfactory examination upon such subjects."4

"While 31 states currently test civics topics, only Missouri, Ohio and Utah have a separate test on civics topics.5

"Today, 29 states require high school students to take a course in government or civics. Five states (Alabama, Arizona, California, Idaho and New York) require students to take a senior year "capstone" civics or government course. Civic education advocates such as the Center for Civic Education see such capstone courses as a positive way to synthesize and strengthen students' civic lessons.

"Nearly every state and the District of Columbia have also instituted standards that in some way incorporate civics content. Twenty-three states and the District of Columbia present their civics standards as explicit standards within their social studies standards and three states (Arkansas, Colorado and Vermont) have separate civics standards. Another 18 states integrate civics topics into their social studies or other subject standards."

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"But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory" (1 Corinthians chapter 2, verse 7)
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You would be ASTONISHED at how many LAWYERS (under the age of 40) have never read this!!!!!!!!!!
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And as I said in my thread 'If I were rich', at how few politicans - or lawyers - have ever studied all of those constitutions: the ancient Greek and Roman, English, American, and Russian.

I think one of the tests a candidate for the US presidency should be able to pass is AT LEAST about the US Constitution.
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Thank you.
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"Democracy is two
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voting on what to
have for lunch.
Liberty is a
well-armed lamb
contesting the vote"
~ Benjamin Franklin.
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Thank you.
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Semper Fi 0352 7thMar
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I would love to hear some more discussion on this topic..


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Go shoot yourself. Use a tarp so no one has to clean up your fuckin mess.
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I would love to hear some more discussion on this topic..


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Discussion about what? You copied and pasted the Declaration of Independence. Well done, you want a cookie?
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Furthermore, most people incorrectly believe the United States is a democracy, not a republic. Democracies are allowed to have the people vote for mob rule. Republics limit the power of government and protect the individual.
“We must keep the people busy with political antagonisms."
“We’ll therefore speed up the question of reform (of tarrifs within) the Democratic Party; and we’ll put the spotlight on the question of protection …(for) the Republican Party."

“By dividing the electorate this way, we’ll be able to have them spend their energies at struggling amongst themselves, on questions that, for us, have no importance whatsoever." - United State Bankers magazine, 1892.
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5 stars and suggest a pin!
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^^^ this ^^^
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Furthermore, most people incorrectly believe the United States is a democracy, not a republic. Democracies are allowed to have the people vote for mob rule. Republics limit the power of government and protect the individual.
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Yes, that is right!!! But who is listening?

From my 68 years of observation, I see the US in the 4th stage of cancer. There is very, very little hope for recovery. The cancer is not just in the White House and Congress but every department, bank and corporate entity. Ruthless power and greed has taken us down.

bump for 5b stars

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Furthermore, most people incorrectly believe the United States is a democracy, not a republic. Democracies are allowed to have the people vote for mob rule. Republics limit the power of government and protect the individual.
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Yes, that is right!!! But who is listening?

From my 68 years of observation, I see the US in the 4th stage of cancer. There is very, very little hope for recovery. The cancer is not just in the White House and Congress but every department, bank and corporate entity. Ruthless power and greed has taken us down.

bump for 5 stars

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I should have added:
Somehow, the people who make up this land is lost in a collective trance from the media's propaganda agenda


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Furthermore, most people incorrectly believe the United States is a democracy, not a republic. Democracies are allowed to have the people vote for mob rule. Republics limit the power of government and protect the individual.
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Yes, that is right!!! But who is listening?

From my 68 years of observation, I see the US in the 4th stage of cancer. There is very, very little hope for recovery. The cancer is not just in the White House and Congress but every department, bank and corporate entity. Ruthless power and greed has taken us down.

bump for 5b stars

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2800 pages of documents delivered to the Hague from 30 states and 1 Indian nation...

CJ
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Furthermore, most people incorrectly believe the United States is a democracy, not a republic. Democracies are allowed to have the people vote for mob rule. Republics limit the power of government and protect the individual.
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Yes, that is right!!! But who is listening?

From my 68 years of observation, I see the US in the 4th stage of cancer. There is very, very little hope for recovery. The cancer is not just in the White House and Congress but every department, bank and corporate entity. Ruthless power and greed has taken us down.

bump for 5b stars

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2800 pages of documents delivered to the Hague from 30 states and 1 Indian nation...

CJ
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Thanks, I'm reading it right now. Very impressive....

What weight does this have in the lawlessness, is anybody listening????


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Furthermore, most people incorrectly believe the United States is a democracy, not a republic. Democracies are allowed to have the people vote for mob rule. Republics limit the power of government and protect the individual.
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Yes, that is right!!! But who is listening?

From my 68 years of observation, I see the US in the 4th stage of cancer. There is very, very little hope for recovery. The cancer is not just in the White House and Congress but every department, bank and corporate entity. Ruthless power and greed has taken us down.

bump for 5b stars

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2800 pages of documents delivered to the Hague from 30 states and 1 Indian nation...

CJ
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This is that Drake crap.
“We must keep the people busy with political antagonisms."
“We’ll therefore speed up the question of reform (of tarrifs within) the Democratic Party; and we’ll put the spotlight on the question of protection …(for) the Republican Party."

“By dividing the electorate this way, we’ll be able to have them spend their energies at struggling amongst themselves, on questions that, for us, have no importance whatsoever." - United State Bankers magazine, 1892.
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The revolution will not be televized.
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You would be ASTONISHED at how many LAWYERS (under the age of 40) have never read this!!!!!!!!!!
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exactly
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It took them long enough to write it, seeing as the war started with the failed attack on Quebec city in December 1775. They didn't get around to declaring their independence till July 1776.

With all that time to think about it, one would expect a few inspiring statements in the document.

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