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Permanent Magnetic Motor from Argentina. A self running, free energy generator!

 
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 Quoting: Sevak_Muni


These things are always bsflag because they ignore fundamental laws of nature.
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Is there a site with a transcript of his narration so we could translate? I'd like to hear or see a technical explanation of how his device works.
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how stupid! and facinating how all the idiots belive in this shit.

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The shills makes me sick!
He proved an interesting concept building a magnet motor; it could be used in MANY situations since it has no self-discharge like batteries so it can last for decades for back-up purposes, for example.

I would like to buy a small magnet motor using it as a toy or for entertainment.
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 Quoting: Sevak_Muni


These things are always bsflag because they ignore fundamental laws of nature.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8128123


Well maybe pmm- yes, but all free energy devices should not be grouped together.
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How do they accomplish pole reversal? Electric motors turn because of the properly timed reversal of the electromagnets...the push and pull have to be precisely timed and permanent magnets can't do that...
 Quoting: BRIEF


they line up the magnets + - + - + - on the outer ring and - + - + - + on the inner ring all the way around

the initial spinning of the thing gets it going and the magnets do the rest
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


yeah, but it would quickly lock in position with positive attracting negative and stop spinning...without electricity pulsing in the right sequence it just won't turn...these videos are a joke.
 Quoting: BRIEF


This is a hard concept to explain. The magnetic forces must be broken or reversed as the corresponding magnets passed each other or when they passed a ferrous object. Otherwise a pendulum (back and forth) motion would occur.

Until someone invents a substance or method to do this, permanant magnet motors will not work.

snip:
Can I shield one magnet from another?

No. There is no such thing as a magnetic insulating material. High permeability material works to shield from magnetic interference by attracting and diverting the field through itself. The only way in which to halt the attractive or repulsive forces between two magnets is to separate them by the distance proportional to their respective magnetic field strengths. [link to www.mushield.com] (a company that sell magnetic sheilding amterial.

Electro magnet motors work because the magnetism is controlled. Control perm magnets or their fields and magic will happen.
 Quoting: Real list


As far as I know mica works quite well: Look at capacitor charge holding and/or deferred discharge. Oddly enough, I believe this was Teslas theory towards his giant capacitors. What is magnetism but captured natural energetic flow?
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You could maybe trickle charge a battery with it.
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...REPEAT AFTER ME....PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINES CANNOT EXSIST....now relax and remember all the scams by crooks and claims by people with a GED who say magnets or compressed air or take your choice will solve the problem...it's all BS...not once in a while but EVERY time...PS: the energy the magnets produce is drawn from the magnets, you could trickle charge a battery BUT you would then have to reenergize the magnets and that would require more energy than the magnets produced to trickle charge the battery...
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Check these out:

[link to pesn.com]


1. Ecat

2. Green Power Inc's technology that converts municipal solid waste to high grade fuel
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3. EEFG solid state generator technology

4. John Rohner's noble gas engine

5. Defkalion's spin-off of Rossi's Nickel-Hydrogen cold fusion
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01/02/2012 12:14 PM
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Fun toy, but magnets do wear out...
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Yeah but all machine parts wear out eventually. Maybe this is a good start for a new type of energy production.
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Fun toy, but magnets do wear out...
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Yeah but all machine parts wear out eventually. Maybe this is a good start for a new type of energy production.
 Quoting: mehitable


Solar has no moving parts...they will lose a very small percent of efficiency in the 20 year warranty period, but nothing to be concerned about...
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All moptor needs is more weight to rotors, such as 3 25 lb weight plates. Spin the maschine up and it will turn a generator motor of 7000 watts, forever!!!!! That is enough for a single household. Why try to complicate things with this turbine bullshit. Keep it simple stupid....shill or not!
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 Quoting: Sevak_Muni


These things are always bsflag because they ignore fundamental laws of nature.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8128123


bsflag

The negative shills make me sick; your fundamentals laws of nature ALLOWS the existence of free-energy machines but the inventors USE TO DIE YOUNG!

In Hungary a person (Arpad Bodai) developed a free-energy device...suprize, General Electric people showed up in that unknown little village and the guy died a few months later in cancer before he could start selling it.

If the machine works then the inventor will die...in cancer or heart attack...that is the fundemental law of creating a forbidden free-energy device. Uncle rothchild don't like the concept of that.

Here's one of the victims (Arpad Bodai) of the free-energy business. (TPTB killed him) Sorry, but the video is in Hungarian.

They talk about the invention and how it could improve the world by using free energy...
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they line up the magnets + - + - + - on the outer ring and - + - + - + on the inner ring all the way around

the initial spinning of the thing gets it going and the magnets do the rest
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


yeah, but it would quickly lock in position with positive attracting negative and stop spinning...without electricity pulsing in the right sequence it just won't turn...these videos are a joke.
 Quoting: BRIEF


This is a hard concept to explain. The magnetic forces must be broken or reversed as the corresponding magnets passed each other or when they passed a ferrous object. Otherwise a pendulum (back and forth) motion would occur.

Until someone invents a substance or method to do this, permanant magnet motors will not work.

snip:
Can I shield one magnet from another?

No. There is no such thing as a magnetic insulating material. High permeability material works to shield from magnetic interference by attracting and diverting the field through itself. The only way in which to halt the attractive or repulsive forces between two magnets is to separate them by the distance proportional to their respective magnetic field strengths. [link to www.mushield.com] (a company that sell magnetic sheilding amterial.

Electro magnet motors work because the magnetism is controlled. Control perm magnets or their fields and magic will happen.
 Quoting: Real list


As far as I know mica works quite well: Look at capacitor charge holding and/or deferred discharge. Oddly enough, I believe this was Teslas theory towards his giant capacitors. What is magnetism but captured natural energetic flow?
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


you confuse magnetism with electricity
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Trinity has it right. While these things may "work" they don't even output enough energy to refine, smelt, and fabricate the materials they are constructed from.
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Re: Permanent Magnetic Motor from Argentina. A self running, free energy generator!
All moptor needs is more weight to rotors, such as 3 25 lb weight plates. Spin the maschine up and it will turn a generator motor of 7000 watts, forever!!!!! That is enough for a single household. Why try to complicate things with this turbine bullshit. Keep it simple stupid....shill or not!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8048721


Now all you need is a power source to bring your flywheel up to speed.

Beyond that your flywheel will slow due to the drag of the generator.
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All moptor needs is more weight to rotors, such as 3 25 lb weight plates. Spin the maschine up and it will turn a generator motor of 7000 watts, forever!!!!! That is enough for a single household. Why try to complicate things with this turbine bullshit. Keep it simple stupid....shill or not!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8048721


Even heavy flywheels won't work, sorry...I think you have the KISS principal backward when it comes to these "motors"...it's: Keep it Stupid Simple
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Check these out:

[link to pesn.com]


1. Ecat

2. Green Power Inc's technology that converts municipal solid waste to high grade fuel
.
3. EEFG solid state generator technology

4. John Rohner's noble gas engine

5. Defkalion's spin-off of Rossi's Nickel-Hydrogen cold fusion
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bump
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01/02/2012 12:42 PM
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kind of large for a flashlight battery dont you think?
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how stupid! and facinating how all the idiots belive in this shit.

bsflag
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8115618

bsflag

The shills makes me sick!
He proved an interesting concept building a magnet motor; it could be used in MANY situations since it has no self-discharge like batteries so it can last for decades for back-up purposes, for example.

I would like to buy a small magnet motor using it as a toy or for entertainment.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8129051


I'm usually pretty good of finding things on the web. I have spent anout 1/2 hour and I can't find a WORKING toy or model of a perm magnet free energy motor. There are many books and videos for sale, usually $40 - $50.

Some one is getting something free. It's money though, not energy.

Sample book with testimonies

[link to www.plimus.com (secure)]
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A man in Queensland Australia made a magnet generator that can power house and it's of similar size....

This should be made available to everyone......

[link to www.rense.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8009550


Looks like after 10 years of applying for patents around the world they have them in 60 countries and are ready to start production. Awesome!
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how stupid! and facinating how all the idiots belive in this shit.

bsflag
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bsflag

The shills makes me sick!
He proved an interesting concept building a magnet motor; it could be used in MANY situations since it has no self-discharge like batteries so it can last for decades for back-up purposes, for example.

I would like to buy a small magnet motor using it as a toy or for entertainment.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8129051


I'm usually pretty good of finding things on the web. I have spent anout 1/2 hour and I can't find a WORKING toy or model of a perm magnet free energy motor. There are many books and videos for sale, usually $40 - $50.

Some one is getting something free. It's money though, not energy.

Sample book with testimonies

[link to www.plimus.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Real list


I have VHS tapes and plans that someone gave me years ago because they owed me money and couldn't pay, but after looking through them and watching the videos I can promise you it's all crap.
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It is not a free energy generator.

It is a magnetic engine driven by magnetism AND gravity.With out those two inputs it would not work.

That said these types of engines have been around a very long time.They just do not produce enough useful energy to really do much of anything.It would cost more to build it than it could possibly repay in 100 years.
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if all lights could be run off a perfected version of this, imagine the difference it could make.
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 Quoting: Sevak_Muni


No sense laughing at people who are trying to find better ways
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This is called the 'Perendev magnetic motor' you can find tons of youtube clips of people having one made by themselfs.
And there's the 'maglev' ofcourse,the train that floats on magnetic levitation.A perfect example of what magnets can do for us sheeple.
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 Quoting: Sevak_Muni


No sense laughing at people who are trying to find better ways
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No, but it does make sense to expose obvious scams.

If a free energy technology was possible a major nation government would have it. The US might be presssured by energy capitalists, pressured to not use it. But how about China or other countries that have a state ecomony as opposed to a private economy?

You will never convince me that if technology existed a China would not be using, and probably marketing it in tamper proof black boxes.
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Even if one was built that had the torque to power a home the PTB would quickly have the inventors put in prison and or killed. Any technology that would take control from the PTB will not be allowed on the market while they are still in control, it has happened before...

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Even if one was built that had the torque to power a home the PTB would quickly have the inventors put in prison and or killed. Any technology that would take control from the PTB will not be allowed on the market while they are still in control, it has happened before...

Quasar
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7795919


tptb in China own, control and purchase fuel for coal powered generator plants. You want us to believe they would not use any technology that would eliminate the headaches associated with that energy source?

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Is there a manual how to make a magnetic motor like this?
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When you make a magnet, you store energy in it. I suspect that with each turn of the wheel, a little energy is extracted so that the thing will run down in a few hours. The energy is extracted by the degaussing of the magnets. If it can be shown bycareful magnetic field measurements that the magnets are not being weakened then this would be truely remarkable..... also that would mean that you could spin it up and let it run forever. IF this thing can run forever, then why is it not now locked in a box on exhibition for all investors to see just running and running and running......?
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Is there a manual how to make a magnetic motor like this?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1197041


[link to www.teslaenergydevice.com]
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nice proof of concept model..
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