Are they going to start targetting the military / veterans as terrorists? Are they trying to portray them as unstable? 6 separate incidents!! | |
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BBQ Guy User ID: 1410244 United States 01/06/2012 12:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Are they going to start targetting the military / veterans as terrorists? Are they trying to portray them as unstable? 6 separate incidents!! Yes they are and a lot of these "events" sound really shady to me. Reason they are doing it? I believe they are doing it not only to demonize us veterans, they are also doing it to sway public opinion of the sheep, lump us all together, and take us out. With people like us out of the way, who is to stop them from coming after the un-untrained and un-prepared? I also believe they are doing this in an attempt to make it to where if you are a vet, you will no longer be able to purchase a firearm and/or ammunition. Remember, the SPLC and DHS have considered us "domestic terrorists" for quite awhile now. Your new civilian force will be the FPS/DHS/TSA; most of them would gladly fire on citizens. "If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy"- James Madison "Joining the military does not mean that you will be defending the country. The purpose of the U.S. military should be to defend the United States. Period. Yet, one of the greatest myths ever invented is that the current U.S. military somehow defends our freedoms. First of all, our freedoms are not in danger of being taken away by foreign countries; if they are taken away it will be by our own government. It is not a country making war on us that we need to fear, it is our government making war on the Bill of Rights. And second, how is stationing troops in 150 different regions of the world on hundreds of U.S. military bases defending our freedoms? It is not the purpose of the U.S. military to change regimes, secure the borders of other countries, or spread democracy at gunpoint. The Department of Defense should first and foremost be the Department of Homeland Security."--Laurence Vance-- |
Laura Bow (OP) User ID: 1158661 United States 01/06/2012 12:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Are they going to start targetting the military / veterans as terrorists? Are they trying to portray them as unstable? 6 separate incidents!! Yes they are and a lot of these "events" sound really shady to me. Quoting: BBQ Guy Reason they are doing it? I believe they are doing it not only to demonize us veterans, they are also doing it to sway public opinion of the sheep, lump us all together, and take us out. With people like us out of the way, who is to stop them from coming after the un-untrained and un-prepared? I also believe they are doing this in an attempt to make it to where if you are a vet, you will no longer be able to purchase a firearm and/or ammunition. Remember, the SPLC and DHS have considered us "domestic terrorists" for quite awhile now. Your new civilian force will be the FPS/DHS/TSA; most of them would gladly fire on citizens. Ugh, how awful, I hope you are wrong about this. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 7119213 United States 01/06/2012 01:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Are they going to start targetting the military / veterans as terrorists? Are they trying to portray them as unstable? 6 separate incidents!! Think about it, yesterday the guy announces he is firing at least 15% of the military ( [link to unlawfulrevolution.com] ) and pretty much destroying the Marines. Which soldiers do you think will be Fired? The ones who take the Oath seriously and will not enforce Obama's NDAA to imprison Americans or the Gangbangers, Muslims and Gays that he has allowed to infiltrate the forces? This guy is systematically destroying the military piece by piece and will soon demonize the "patriotic" military members. That's why you are seeing so many of these stories being reported. They are trying to turn people on the military so they can get rid of any members who will not do their bidding |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8350786 United States 01/06/2012 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Are they going to start targetting the military / veterans as terrorists? Are they trying to portray them as unstable? 6 separate incidents!! As an update, it looks like the suspect in the national park shooting has been found dead... Quoting: Laura Bow By msnbc.com staff and news services Updated at 5:20 p.m. ET: Officials confirm that a body found earlier Monday is that of Benjamin Colton Barnes, the suspect in the killing of Mount Rainier National Park Ranger Margaret Anderson. Updated at 2:20 p.m. ET: A body was spotted by aircraft in a remote area and there's a strong probability it is Barnes, a sheriff's spokesman says. [link to usnews.msnbc.msn.com] Suspect "Found Dead"....does anyone else find this disturbing??? This guy was a highly trained survivalist, and he's "Found Dead"??? What did he die of? Exposure? Falling? SWAT SNIPER GUNSHOT WOUND TO THE HEAD??? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 4436859 United States 01/06/2012 01:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Are they going to start targetting the military / veterans as terrorists? Are they trying to portray them as unstable? 6 separate incidents!! No doubt a setup. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7119213 Think about it, yesterday the guy announces he is firing at least 15% of the military ( [link to unlawfulrevolution.com] ) and pretty much destroying the Marines. Which soldiers do you think will be Fired? The ones who take the Oath seriously and will not enforce Obama's NDAA to imprison Americans or the Gangbangers, Muslims and Gays that he has allowed to infiltrate the forces? This guy is systematically destroying the military piece by piece and will soon demonize the "patriotic" military members. That's why you are seeing so many of these stories being reported. They are trying to turn people on the military so they can get rid of any members who will not do their bidding But they with their stubborn heads do not believe anything except their own contempt which they will not admit. Soon it will present an unstable picture to the rest of the world and to others who start questioning what they really are doing with their trying to control the world. They are stripping theirselves of their brains, but will not believe it, for they realize that they really have no other option but their own self-destruction. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 602706 United Kingdom 01/06/2012 02:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Are they going to start targetting the military / veterans as terrorists? Are they trying to portray them as unstable? 6 separate incidents!! The "truth" (or a heavily sensationalized version of it) is indeed being spread, but by (and to) the wrong people and for the wrong reasons. People are being consumed with paranoia and fear of reprisal, so much that they actually just might be willing to turn to acts of "terrorism" in response to the rise of a "banana republic" as someone in the media put it recently. Not to mention any false flag attacks that would likely be arranged, and a mainstream media assault on any "homegrown terrorists" which would no doubt convince the public at large that these people are indeed a menace to society and must be put down for the safety and stability of the nation. The worst part about that last sentence is that it will be "true", but no one will think to look at the reasons why. They'll only see right-wing radical crackpots with guns who are trying to overthrow the government and plunge the nation into chaos, and their fears will become a self-fulfilling prophecy as they're shot down or hauled off to camps. It's funny, as I'd spent a lot of time researching this stuff for years and years, and now it's all coming true, but in a way I could never have anticipated. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1550152 United States 01/06/2012 02:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Are they going to start targetting the military / veterans as terrorists? Are they trying to portray them as unstable? 6 separate incidents!! 1) Some of it is certainly staged - the freedom fighter types, etc, those are clear. 2) However, one of the designs of the Iraq/Afghanistan wars is to make psychotics out of our military. With PTSD, killing innocent civilians and blowing up puppies, you have a mass murdering force ready to go. They'll use both to their advantage. |
Laura Bow (OP) User ID: 1158661 United States 01/06/2012 02:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Are they going to start targetting the military / veterans as terrorists? Are they trying to portray them as unstable? 6 separate incidents!! 1) Some of it is certainly staged - the freedom fighter types, etc, those are clear. Quoting: snarky74 2) However, one of the designs of the Iraq/Afghanistan wars is to make psychotics out of our military. With PTSD, killing innocent civilians and blowing up puppies, you have a mass murdering force ready to go. They'll use both to their advantage. If nothing else, the media may...but with all these new laws they are passing, wouldn't surprise me if they do something to target specifically military/veterans. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1550152 United States 01/06/2012 03:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Are they going to start targetting the military / veterans as terrorists? Are they trying to portray them as unstable? 6 separate incidents!! 1) Some of it is certainly staged - the freedom fighter types, etc, those are clear. Quoting: snarky74 2) However, one of the designs of the Iraq/Afghanistan wars is to make psychotics out of our military. With PTSD, killing innocent civilians and blowing up puppies, you have a mass murdering force ready to go. They'll use both to their advantage. If nothing else, the media may...but with all these new laws they are passing, wouldn't surprise me if they do something to target specifically military/veterans. Definitely could be used for a possible gun grab targeting vets first...true. |
anonymous321 01/06/2012 03:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Are they going to start targetting the military / veterans as terrorists? Are they trying to portray them as unstable? 6 separate incidents!! I'm certainly not saying all military personnel have problems, but it is a fact that with the all volunteer military, many of these people were laid off, couldn't hold onto a civilian job, had marital problems, etc., so they enlisted. In other words, they had problems to begin with. Also...many national guard and reservists never thought they would see combat. They are angry that they have/had to go to war. I know a couple whose 18 year old adopted son was always getting in trouble and couldn't hold a job, so he enlisted in the Army. He eventually went AWOL. This is the typical guy, "a veteran" whom we might read about someday. In today's promiscuous society, you would not believe how many guys come back from a tour in the Middle East to no home....because the wife is living with another guy. I've also heard stories....from the men themselves, whose wives spent all their money while they were on tour...and want a divorce... sad stories. I also think that with the internet, twitter, etc., we're hearing more stories as they happen. Years ago we didn't get this information. We had to read the newspapers, and all these articles were buried somewhere inside, or not written and reported at all. Last Edited by anonymous321 on 01/06/2012 03:32 PM |
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Laura Bow (OP) User ID: 1158661 United States 01/06/2012 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Are they going to start targetting the military / veterans as terrorists? Are they trying to portray them as unstable? 6 separate incidents!! 1) Some of it is certainly staged - the freedom fighter types, etc, those are clear. Quoting: snarky74 2) However, one of the designs of the Iraq/Afghanistan wars is to make psychotics out of our military. With PTSD, killing innocent civilians and blowing up puppies, you have a mass murdering force ready to go. They'll use both to their advantage. If nothing else, the media may...but with all these new laws they are passing, wouldn't surprise me if they do something to target specifically military/veterans. Definitely could be used for a possible gun grab targeting vets first...true. Yep, it's awful to think of what is going on anymore. I never thought about it, but I guess vets are highly likely to own a gun? What better group to get them off of first... |
anonymous321 User ID: 4928528 United States 01/06/2012 04:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Are they going to start targetting the military / veterans as terrorists? Are they trying to portray them as unstable? 6 separate incidents!! As an update, it looks like the suspect in the national park shooting has been found dead... Quoting: Laura Bow By msnbc.com staff and news services Updated at 5:20 p.m. ET: Officials confirm that a body found earlier Monday is that of Benjamin Colton Barnes, the suspect in the killing of Mount Rainier National Park Ranger Margaret Anderson. Updated at 2:20 p.m. ET: A body was spotted by aircraft in a remote area and there's a strong probability it is Barnes, a sheriff's spokesman says. [link to usnews.msnbc.msn.com] Suspect "Found Dead"....does anyone else find this disturbing??? This guy was a highly trained survivalist, and he's "Found Dead"??? What did he die of? Exposure? Falling? SWAT SNIPER GUNSHOT WOUND TO THE HEAD??? He was on Mt. Rainier on New Year's Day without a jacket! He died of exposure. |
anonymous321 User ID: 4928528 United States 01/06/2012 04:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Are they going to start targetting the military / veterans as terrorists? Are they trying to portray them as unstable? 6 separate incidents!! About the guy on Mt. Rainier... Barnes, an Iraq war veteran who was kicked out of the Army following a drunken-driving arrest and other issues, headed for Mount Rainier National Park early Sunday after fleeing the scene of a shooting that wounded four people 100 miles away, near Seattle. He had several guns and a bulletproof vest in the car, authorities said. Read more: [link to www.sfgate.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 870381 Australia 01/06/2012 04:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Are they going to start targetting the military / veterans as terrorists? Are they trying to portray them as unstable? 6 separate incidents!! This is all classic Rambo: First Blood. If you think about that story it was a highly traineed vet up against local police. Rambo was a Frankensteinan monster, a creature they created now turned against it. A patriot who just wanted his country to love him as much as he loved it. It's a very real fear.... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 8313923 United States 01/06/2012 08:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Are they going to start targetting the military / veterans as terrorists? Are they trying to portray them as unstable? 6 separate incidents!! Well, if that's the case, why would they stage it? If there is another incident in the near future of someone in the military or a vet going off then I'd really be wondering if that was the case... After Ruby Ridge and Waco, the militia movement was really gaining strength in the early 90's. A rumor started circulating that the government was going to do a massive round up of militia leaders on a certain night all across the nation. I asked my dad who was naval intelligence in the late 50's and early 60's what he thought about this. He told me that law enforcement didn't have the manpower to stage such raids in a single night, but to pay attention to the news because they would build something up then go after that. Well after that conversation the Michigan Militia started making the news. The CBS national morning news, and also NBC national news both ran news stories on them (ABC may have also and possibly cable news of the day but I only got the 2 i mentioned so don't know), also the Arizona Republic ran what i think was a front page article on them. Now fast forward to the OKC bombing, as soon as Timothy McVeigh was arrested for it they tried to tie him to the Michigan Militia. Indeed he had tried to join the Michigan Militia but he was too radical for them so the told him to take a hike. The Michigan Militia was a pretty large and very well organized militia, don't know if the are still around or not. I don't have the time to research and find links which I'm sure are there to these news stories, but know they ran less than a year before OKC, prolly more like a few months. So in response to your question OP, I've seen a similar build up before. I think you're spot on but time will tell. Don't know if drugs given the vets are contributing or if it's staged or what but since DHS has called vets a threat I believe it's certainly worth keeping an eye on. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8388944 United States 01/07/2012 04:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Are they going to start targetting the military / veterans as terrorists? Are they trying to portray them as unstable? 6 separate incidents!! Craig Roberts on liberty in 2012... [link to www.paulcraigroberts.org] |