Vermont Secession? The beginning of seeing the truth about the lies, deception and corruption and doing something about it | |
KHOSANNA User ID: 12443 United States 10/24/2005 06:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Vermont Secession? The beginning of seeing the truth about the lies, deception and corruption and doing something about it Just as long as they realize what they stand to lose by seceding.....Federal funding, for starters. Even if seceding means they pay less Federal taxes, the state taxes are going to have to go up in order to maintain the status quo in VT. I lived in Alaska for 6 years and always there was talk of secession. Fine if you live in a natural resource rich environment, not fine if you donīt. Hope Vermonters are making an INFORMED decision based on a little more than whether or not the current government is unsustainable. The question in my mind would be "Can we sustain ourselves if we divorce the Federal government?" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2380 United States 10/24/2005 06:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Vermont Secession? The beginning of seeing the truth about the lies, deception and corruption and doing something about it I started a thread which applies to this issue: now what? User ID: 1008 10/24/2005 6:27 pm EDT Is the Constitution the glue which holds the union together? If the Constitution guaranteed unity among the states, will the dissolving of the constitution lead to the disunity of the states? How can the globalists dispose of the constitution without also destroying the unity of the United States of America? Does any state have an obligation to maintain a false unity based on nothing more than intimidation? Was the constitution a guarantee of fair government? Does the undermining of the Constitution give the states a right to break the contract? I think someone needs to be asking these questions. The globalists better get some answers ready, because their little global plan may just fall over this issue. |
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captain obvious (OP) User ID: 35678 United States 10/24/2005 06:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Vermont Secession? The beginning of seeing the truth about the lies, deception and corruption and doing something about it After paying off the national debt of 7 trillion dollars or whatever it is these days, there would still be a few hundred billion for Vermontīs share. Thatīs a pretty solid foundation to start a state on. Under the constitution, the People can do anything that they want when the "government" has failed to do what it is supposed to do, which is to act as a government, not as a revenue sharing and enhancing corporation. |
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Athrael User ID: 3287 United States 10/25/2005 05:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Vermont Secession? The beginning of seeing the truth about the lies, deception and corruption and doing something about it California is well suited for this notion, it is the worldīs 5th economy and can afford to leave the USA. Vermont only plants a seed of idea which by the results of these conventions will spread the idea as dandelion seeds disperse into the winds. States will unmerge, not for the same reasons, but for similar ideals. One state must make it clear to the others that there are alternative methods available. Vermont is not a "great loss" to the Federal Empire of the United States, it is a fertile ground for germination of the idea, but least likely to actually do this thing. The "threat" is not apparent in the near term, only does it become clear when its affect on other States takes place. Athrael |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 31449 United States 10/25/2005 09:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Vermont Secession? The beginning of seeing the truth about the lies, deception and corruption and doing something about it īRevenue sharing/enhancing corporation...ROFLMAO Good one, Capīn! |
Athrael User ID: 3287 United States 10/25/2005 10:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Vermont Secession? The beginning of seeing the truth about the lies, deception and corruption and doing something about it 95, United States History demonstrates that states living the union are apart to find themselves facing a war. The Constitution although a nice contract between human government constructs is rarely to be seen as a Law within itself that insures that its Truths are maintained. Athrael |
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