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It Took Me 29 Years to Discover Wine, Ask Me a Question

 
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I never dug the taste of wine. Thought it was kind of crappy, preferred beer or whiskey.

On New Year's Day, just after midnight, my kid sister, age 24, insisted I drink champagne. I used to sip it now and then to be a good sport, but never drank a whole glass. So this year, I relented. Now, I think it's awesome.

Right now, I'm drunk on a bottle of something called Santa Margherita. It was a gift from years ago that I put in a closet and ignored, since I was never a wine guy. I am a light weight, yes, I admit it. But I've downed all but one last glass in the last half hour, and this feels different than being drunk of beer or harder stuff. It goes down easy, and it's like a different feeling.

I can't believe it took nearly 30 years of my life to realize how great wine is. Just wanted to share.

Feel free to ask me a question, hope this is coherent. 2012: The year I learned to appreciate vino!
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That's wonderful! With any luck, it should only take you 10 years to discover Cirrhosis of the Liver, and greatly diminished mental capacity.

Congrats!
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29s a bit late to get married isn't it?
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That's wonderful! With any luck, it should only take you 10 years to discover Cirrhosis of the Liver, and greatly diminished mental capacity.

Congrats!
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Now, tell me, AND THIS QUESTION IS SERIOUS: is that specifically an anti-wine statement, or is it an anti-alcohol in general statement? If it's the former, I'll give up on wine right now. If it's the latter, then I think you should lighten up and have a glass of wine.
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29s a bit late to get married isn't it?
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In general yes, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's not all that unusual for the GLP crowd.

Oh, I've had wine before to be a good sport, but never ENJOYED it the way I have enjoyed beer, or whiskey, or non-alcoholic drinks like soda or ice tea.
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"Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whoever is deceived thereby is not wise." Proverbs 20:1

"Do not look at wine when it is red, when it sparkles in the cup and goes down smoothly. In the end it bites like a serpent and stings like an adder." Proverbs 23:31-32
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Was it Pinot Grigio?

[link to www.santamargherita.com]

I like the taste of Sauvignon Blanc, personally. I also like White Zinfandel. You should give these a try.
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What type of wines did you start with and what are you drinking now?
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"Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whoever is deceived thereby is not wise." Proverbs 20:1

"Do not look at wine when it is red, when it sparkles in the cup and goes down smoothly. In the end it bites like a serpent and stings like an adder." Proverbs 23:31-32
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8174716


Now I wonder if, at the time those verses were read, old testament stuff I take it, did beer exist? Did the have hops in the Middle East?

Perhaps, I dunno.

I think "wine" is often an umbrella term for alcohol as a whole in the biblical sense. Still, Jesus turned water into this stuff, and now I see why.

He walked on that water, turned it into wine, then turned it into his blood. Jesus was a wise man, and wine is pretty good.

This post may sound silly, but I always sort of dismissed wine as "faggoty," or "pretentious." Now I see I was the real snob, it's pretty good, and it's a different kind of drunk than beer or harder shit. Anyone else know what I mean?

Oh well.
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Was it Pinot Grigio?

[link to www.santamargherita.com]

I like the taste of Sauvignon Blanc, personally. I also like White Zinfandel. You should give these a try.
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YES! The bottle label says Pinot Grigio.

Forgive me, I don't know much about wine.

The label says SANTA MARGHERITA Pinot Grigio 2007 ALTO ADIGE
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What type of wines did you start with and what are you drinking now?
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Well I just started with some kind of champaigne my sister had. Then I had a bottle of something red, called Charlot Shiraz. Now I'm having white Santa Margherita (Pinot Grigio) about 5 year old bottle.

Don't know what any of that means. Just discovering wine at nearly 30 years of age. Discovered a lot of shit in my teen years, but always saw wine as an 'old woman or snob drink.' Now, I regret my childish silliness.
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What type of wines did you start with and what are you drinking now?
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Well I just started with some kind of champaigne my sister had. Then I had a bottle of something red, called Charlot Shiraz. Now I'm having white Santa Margherita (Pinot Grigio) about 5 year old bottle.

Don't know what any of that means. Just discovering wine at nearly 30 years of age. Discovered a lot of shit in my teen years, but always saw wine as an 'old woman or snob drink.' Now, I regret my childish silliness.
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My father was a collector. nothing too serious, and I sold wines for a year or two in my younger days. I had a reasonable exposure and developed a palate for good wines.(This does not come cheap). My wife and I found the best way to appreciate different wines was to form a dinner club with a few like minded couples. Once a month a couple would host a meal and the others would bring some wine to a predetermined value. We would announce the menu in advance and try to match the wine and food as they can complement each other to produce an outstanding experience. We would talk about the wine and comment about the style and future foods that it may complement. Good fun and rewarding and I would highly recommend this to others. It died in the ass when we all started to have kids(strange that). It might be time to start it back up again.
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My father was a collector. nothing too serious, and I sold wines for a year or two in my younger days. I had a reasonable exposure and developed a palate for good wines.(This does not come cheap). My wife and I found the best way to appreciate different wines was to form a dinner club with a few like minded couples. Once a month a couple would host a meal and the others would bring some wine to a predetermined value. We would announce the menu in advance and try to match the wine and food as they can complement each other to produce an outstanding experience. We would talk about the wine and comment about the style and future foods that it may complement. Good fun and rewarding and I would highly recommend this to others. It died in the ass when we all started to have kids(strange that). It might be time to start it back up again.
 Quoting: mr2


I would be honored if my silly post helped you restore those fun times you had sampling wine.

I was thinking, since I know very little about wine, I may just have to go to the liquor store and buy a few bottles of various types. Then I can try each out, until I have an understanding of what I like and what I don't like.

It may be way too early to tell, but I think I may like white better than red, at least for the moment. What about you?
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"Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whoever is deceived thereby is not wise." Proverbs 20:1

"Do not look at wine when it is red, when it sparkles in the cup and goes down smoothly. In the end it bites like a serpent and stings like an adder." Proverbs 23:31-32
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8174716


Now I wonder if, at the time those verses were read, old testament stuff I take it, did beer exist? Did the have hops in the Middle East?

Perhaps, I dunno.

I think "wine" is often an umbrella term for alcohol as a whole in the biblical sense. Still, Jesus turned water into this stuff, and now I see why.

He walked on that water, turned it into wine, then turned it into his blood. Jesus was a wise man, and wine is pretty good.

This post may sound silly, but I always sort of dismissed wine as "faggoty," or "pretentious." Now I see I was the real snob, it's pretty good, and it's a different kind of drunk than beer or harder shit. Anyone else know what I mean?

Oh well.
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Jesus didn't turn water into ALCOHOLIC wine. It was "new wine" (grape juice), not "old wine", which is fermented grape juice.

Up until the 1800's the word "wine" could apply to either grape juice OR alcoholic wine.

The bible says "woe unto those who would cause their neighbor to be drunken". Do you REALLY think that Jesus would have turned water into ALCOHOLIC wine, since the guests were ALREADY drunk?

Get real. Do some study. OR, just keep convincing yourself that you're not a fool.
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My father was a collector. nothing too serious, and I sold wines for a year or two in my younger days. I had a reasonable exposure and developed a palate for good wines.(This does not come cheap). My wife and I found the best way to appreciate different wines was to form a dinner club with a few like minded couples. Once a month a couple would host a meal and the others would bring some wine to a predetermined value. We would announce the menu in advance and try to match the wine and food as they can complement each other to produce an outstanding experience. We would talk about the wine and comment about the style and future foods that it may complement. Good fun and rewarding and I would highly recommend this to others. It died in the ass when we all started to have kids(strange that). It might be time to start it back up again.
 Quoting: mr2


I would be honored if my silly post helped you restore those fun times you had sampling wine.

I was thinking, since I know very little about wine, I may just have to go to the liquor store and buy a few bottles of various types. Then I can try each out, until I have an understanding of what I like and what I don't like.

It may be way too early to tell, but I think I may like white better than red, at least for the moment. What about you?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7103817


Most people start out with the lighter, fruity sweet wine and then develop a taste for full bodied wines after a period of time and exposure. Wine and food go together. Start reading the labels for suggestions and try it. I think you may be pleasantly surprised.

I enjoy all types of GOOD wine in their element. Trust me, drinking a dry full bodied red in the boiling sun eating salt and vinegar crisps can be unpleasant.
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"Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whoever is deceived thereby is not wise." Proverbs 20:1

"Do not look at wine when it is red, when it sparkles in the cup and goes down smoothly. In the end it bites like a serpent and stings like an adder." Proverbs 23:31-32
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8174716


Now I wonder if, at the time those verses were read, old testament stuff I take it, did beer exist? Did the have hops in the Middle East?

Perhaps, I dunno.

I think "wine" is often an umbrella term for alcohol as a whole in the biblical sense. Still, Jesus turned water into this stuff, and now I see why.

He walked on that water, turned it into wine, then turned it into his blood. Jesus was a wise man, and wine is pretty good.

This post may sound silly, but I always sort of dismissed wine as "faggoty," or "pretentious." Now I see I was the real snob, it's pretty good, and it's a different kind of drunk than beer or harder shit. Anyone else know what I mean?

Oh well.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7103817





Jesus didn't turn water into ALCOHOLIC wine. It was "new wine" (grape juice), not "old wine", which is fermented grape juice.

Up until the 1800's the word "wine" could apply to either grape juice OR alcoholic wine.

The bible says "woe unto those who would cause their neighbor to be drunken". Do you REALLY think that Jesus would have turned water into ALCOHOLIC wine, since the guests were ALREADY drunk?

Get real. Do some study. OR, just keep convincing yourself that you're not a fool.
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:likeapenis:
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"Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whoever is deceived thereby is not wise." Proverbs 20:1

"Do not look at wine when it is red, when it sparkles in the cup and goes down smoothly. In the end it bites like a serpent and stings like an adder." Proverbs 23:31-32
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8174716


Now I wonder if, at the time those verses were read, old testament stuff I take it, did beer exist? Did the have hops in the Middle East?

Perhaps, I dunno.

I think "wine" is often an umbrella term for alcohol as a whole in the biblical sense. Still, Jesus turned water into this stuff, and now I see why.

He walked on that water, turned it into wine, then turned it into his blood. Jesus was a wise man, and wine is pretty good.

This post may sound silly, but I always sort of dismissed wine as "faggoty," or "pretentious." Now I see I was the real snob, it's pretty good, and it's a different kind of drunk than beer or harder shit. Anyone else know what I mean?

Oh well.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7103817





Jesus didn't turn water into ALCOHOLIC wine. It was "new wine" (grape juice), not "old wine", which is fermented grape juice.

Up until the 1800's the word "wine" could apply to either grape juice OR alcoholic wine.

The bible says "woe unto those who would cause their neighbor to be drunken". Do you REALLY think that Jesus would have turned water into ALCOHOLIC wine, since the guests were ALREADY drunk?

Get real. Do some study. OR, just keep convincing yourself that you're not a fool.
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Please don't even try to tell me you're a christian
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Jesus didn't turn water into ALCOHOLIC wine. It was "new wine" (grape juice), not "old wine", which is fermented grape juice.

Up until the 1800's the word "wine" could apply to either grape juice OR alcoholic wine.

The bible says "woe unto those who would cause their neighbor to be drunken". Do you REALLY think that Jesus would have turned water into ALCOHOLIC wine, since the guests were ALREADY drunk?

Get real. Do some study. OR, just keep convincing yourself that you're not a fool.


You may be right, I may be a wino fool. But how the hell do you know what type of wine Jesus turned the water into? Does the bible actually say he turned it into non-alcoholic grape juice wine? Maybe Jesus wanted the wedding party to have more of this wonderful, alcoholic beverage.

Do you really think Jesus would love winos any less then anyone else?
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Most people start out with the lighter, fruity sweet wine and then develop a taste for full bodied wines after a period of time and exposure. Wine and food go together. Start reading the labels for suggestions and try it. I think you may be pleasantly surprised.

I enjoy all types of GOOD wine in their element. Trust me, drinking a dry full bodied red in the boiling sun eating salt and vinegar crisps can be unpleasant.
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Cool. So I have picked some good starting wine, or have I gone off the deep end? Or are these just crappy wines. I'm dead serious when I say I haven't a clue.
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Jesus didn't turn water into ALCOHOLIC wine. It was "new wine" (grape juice), not "old wine", which is fermented grape juice.

Up until the 1800's the word "wine" could apply to either grape juice OR alcoholic wine.

The bible says "woe unto those who would cause their neighbor to be drunken". Do you REALLY think that Jesus would have turned water into ALCOHOLIC wine, since the guests were ALREADY drunk?

Get real. Do some study. OR, just keep convincing yourself that you're not a fool.
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Sorry, I screwed that up. I'm a bit tipsy.

What I meant to respond to, was:

You may be right, I may be a wino fool. But how the hell do you know what type of wine Jesus turned the water into? Does the bible actually say he turned it into non-alcoholic grape juice wine? Maybe Jesus wanted the wedding party to have more of this wonderful, alcoholic beverage.

Do you really think Jesus would love winos any less then anyone else?
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My father was a collector. nothing too serious, and I sold wines for a year or two in my younger days. I had a reasonable exposure and developed a palate for good wines.(This does not come cheap). My wife and I found the best way to appreciate different wines was to form a dinner club with a few like minded couples. Once a month a couple would host a meal and the others would bring some wine to a predetermined value. We would announce the menu in advance and try to match the wine and food as they can complement each other to produce an outstanding experience. We would talk about the wine and comment about the style and future foods that it may complement. Good fun and rewarding and I would highly recommend this to others. It died in the ass when we all started to have kids(strange that). It might be time to start it back up again.
 Quoting: mr2


I would be honored if my silly post helped you restore those fun times you had sampling wine.

I was thinking, since I know very little about wine, I may just have to go to the liquor store and buy a few bottles of various types. Then I can try each out, until I have an understanding of what I like and what I don't like.

It may be way too early to tell, but I think I may like white better than red, at least for the moment. What about you?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7103817


Most people start out with the lighter, fruity sweet wine and then develop a taste for full bodied wines after a period of time and exposure. Wine and food go together. Start reading the labels for suggestions and try it. I think you may be pleasantly surprised.

I enjoy all types of GOOD wine in their element. Trust me, drinking a dry full bodied red in the boiling sun eating salt and vinegar crisps can be unpleasant.
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Thou art a pom, MR2?
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By the way, I fully respect any and all opinions, even those I disagree with, or aren't full in agreement with.

I think part of the problem, and remember I am drunk here, is that personal opinion is being used in regards to interpretation of the bible.

To the person who says Jesus didn't make alcoholic wine, you may very well indeed be right. But then again you may be incorrect and filling in the blanks as you see fit. I truly don't know, but I'm skeptical of anyone who THINKS that they know. Still, I respect you're right to have an opinion.

Personally, I think at a wedding that alcoholic wine would be more preferable than grape juice. That's true both today, and 2,000 years ago.
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Thou art a pom, MR2?
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Maybe there's some inner wine drinking world that I'm not a part of. Maybe I'm too drunk. I have no idea what this means
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I think what I was trying to get at with this post is that while being drunk all the time is unhealthy and undesirable, wine, as a drink, is quite alright. I never knocked it flat out, but I never fully understood it until now.
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Most people start out with the lighter, fruity sweet wine and then develop a taste for full bodied wines after a period of time and exposure. Wine and food go together. Start reading the labels for suggestions and try it. I think you may be pleasantly surprised.

I enjoy all types of GOOD wine in their element. Trust me, drinking a dry full bodied red in the boiling sun eating salt and vinegar crisps can be unpleasant.
 Quoting: mr2


Cool. So I have picked some good starting wine, or have I gone off the deep end? Or are these just crappy wines. I'm dead serious when I say I haven't a clue.
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Its best if you drink what you enjoy. If you can, drink less but better quality wine. Wine is made from pressing grapes for the juice. They press the grapes a few times. First press wines tend to be better quality with less additives. You are less likely to suffer ill effects from quality wines(volume will eventually override this effectchuckle).
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Thou art a pom, MR2?
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Maybe there's some inner wine drinking world that I'm not a part of. Maybe I'm too drunk. I have no idea what this means
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It's the word CRISPS. We call them chips over here but it confuses the fuck out of you yanks so I changed it. My sister lives over there so I know we have to make allowances for the less worldly.
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Thou art a pom, MR2?
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Maybe there's some inner wine drinking world that I'm not a part of. Maybe I'm too drunk. I have no idea what this means
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It's the word CRISPS. We call them chips over here but it confuses the fuck out of you yanks so I changed it. My sister lives over there so I know we have to make allowances for the less worldly.
 Quoting: mr2


Ummm...murkins call 'em chips, mate

hmmm

poms call 'em crisps
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Thou art a pom, MR2?
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Maybe there's some inner wine drinking world that I'm not a part of. Maybe I'm too drunk. I have no idea what this means
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It's the word CRISPS. We call them chips over here but it confuses the fuck out of you yanks so I changed it. My sister lives over there so I know we have to make allowances for the less worldly.
 Quoting: mr2


Ummm...murkins call 'em chips, mate

hmmm

poms call 'em crisps
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Call me a murkin, but I call 'em chips. Potato chips to be exactly. But what does this have to do with wine, or being "worldly"? Seriously. Maybe this is where the idea of wine being a pretentious drink comes from, why all the snobbery and cryptic BS? Call me a simpleton if it makes you folks feel better, but what does it prove?

Hope you feel better about yourselves.
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Thou art a pom, MR2?
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Maybe there's some inner wine drinking world that I'm not a part of. Maybe I'm too drunk. I have no idea what this means
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7103817


It's the word CRISPS. We call them chips over here but it confuses the fuck out of you yanks so I changed it. My sister lives over there so I know we have to make allowances for the less worldly.
 Quoting: mr2


Ummm...murkins call 'em chips, mate

hmmm

poms call 'em crisps
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Ahh too many wines,another do Its those fuck'n fries
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I hate headaches. And the most sucessful whores I know have retired from wine.

Your putting horny guys outta buisness with that shit.
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I never dug the taste of wine. Thought it was kind of crappy, preferred beer or whiskey.

On New Year's Day, just after midnight, my kid sister, age 24, insisted I drink champagne. I used to sip it now and then to be a good sport, but never drank a whole glass. So this year, I relented. Now, I think it's awesome.

Right now, I'm drunk on a bottle of something called Santa Margherita. It was a gift from years ago that I put in a closet and ignored, since I was never a wine guy. I am a light weight, yes, I admit it. But I've downed all but one last glass in the last half hour, and this feels different than being drunk of beer or harder stuff. It goes down easy, and it's like a different feeling.

I can't believe it took nearly 30 years of my life to realize how great wine is. Just wanted to share.

Feel free to ask me a question, hope this is coherent. 2012: The year I learned to appreciate vino!
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My 40 year old brother drank some champagne for the first time to appease me. He really enjoyed it. It all depends on the quality of the wine/ champagne. If I drink the cheaper stuff I get really sick.

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