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I spent 17 years developing various chemicals for Chemtrails - ask me almost anything.

 
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By the way, in case some of you haven't noticed, I'm choosing not to respond to any religious trolls who are asking me how it feels to be doomed to eternal hellfire. I've come to terms with my career over the past decade. I'm not here to argue religion and the afterlife.
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Was this for the military? Are you Chemist? Is it a worldwide phenomenon? What is the purpose of Chemtrails?
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Clientele: See previous posts - I had no idea (still don't to this day).
Am I a chemist: Yes, I received a B.S. in Chemistry, and my PhD in biochemistry.
Is it a worldwide phenomenon: See previous post - North America is not the only continent to use aerially dispersed chemicals.
Purpose of chemtrails: See previous posts.
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But how do you feel about what you have done? Like I said, I'm not judging, nor am I seeking a religious argument.

Last Edited by Writemeaticket Red on 01/04/2012 01:56 AM
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Why did you choose this website of all places to reveal this knowledge?
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Where else would anyone believe me?
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Write it all up (with proof) and send to all the newsdesks in the U.S. I bet somone would run it.
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I would worry for my safety if I were to actually do that. I don't even feel completely safe discussing it on an internet forum.
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As you already indicated, patents are in the public arena. I read an actual patent pertaining to this, but as you indicated patents are public so just Google "chemtrail weather modification patents" and you will find patent numbers. Your language is that of a PhD Chemists.
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After searching for that, I did find results, but none on the uspto.gov website. If there are indeed US patents filed for weather modification chemicals, I wouldn't be surprised if they are some sort of distraction. I.e. the oldest magic trick in the book - watch this hand over here, don't worry about what the other hand is doing behind the back. If people are spending all their time trying to figure out what is going on with the publicly listed patents, then that is less people trying to find the real research.
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Diversion--it is always carried out in war and for other purposes. Your language reveals high levels of education and experience.
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I’m curious as to what motivated you to discuss Chemtrails?
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But how do you feel about what you have done? Like I said, I'm not judging, nor am I seeking a religious argument.
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Not great. I would feel much, much worse if non-toxicity had not been as much of a concern as it was. But even so, I've dealt with a great amount of regret since retirement. Developed a drinking problem. But I've managed to come to terms with my nearly two decades of work, and I am ready to accept whatever fate awaits me.
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Why did you choose this website of all places to reveal this knowledge?
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Where else would anyone believe me?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6323246


Write it all up (with proof) and send to all the newsdesks in the U.S. I bet somone would run it.
 Quoting: Writemeaticket Red


I would worry for my safety if I were to actually do that. I don't even feel completely safe discussing it on an internet forum.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6323246


If you write it all up and mail it to all the major newsdesks -- anonymously & from a remote location -- you could blow the lid off the subject. And possibly even save some people.
"Don't be a Chihuahua, bro."
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2 questions:

1) you mentioned these chemicals were sometimes designed to "calm". Any of these mixtures have to do with memory loss or attention deficits? Seems like people are complaining more and more of being scatter brained and forgetful. People seem to lose focus a lot too.

2) is there a way to avoid them or detox from these chemicals?


Thanks
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Did any of your compounds ever cloak the sky?
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I'm not sure what you mean...as in they were intended to block out the sun? If that is the case, then no.
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Well there are factions of people that think the sky is being cloaked to prevent people from actually seeing the real sky. As in they are "editing" the sky.


For example here is a sample video:


[link to www.youtube.com]


Strange indeed. I've never seen anything like this phenomena. Chemtrails are around all of these phenomena.
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But how do you feel about what you have done? Like I said, I'm not judging, nor am I seeking a religious argument.
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Not great. I would feel much, much worse if non-toxicity had not been as much of a concern as it was. But even so, I've dealt with a great amount of regret since retirement. Developed a drinking problem. But I've managed to come to terms with my nearly two decades of work, and I am ready to accept whatever fate awaits me.
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Maybe your fate includes sharing this with the world, not just on a conspiracy forum.
"Don't be a Chihuahua, bro."
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I’m curious as to what motivated you to discuss Chemtrails?
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I guess I've been needing to get it off my chest for some time. I can't talk about it with family and friends - they think I am making some sort of "mad scientist" joke and laugh it off. None of them have ever taken me seriously when I try to explain the details of my career. I was just a research chemist as far as they are concerned.
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Re: I spent 17 years developing various chemicals for Chemtrails - ask me almost anything.
Why did you choose this website of all places to reveal this knowledge?
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Where else would anyone believe me?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6323246


Write it all up (with proof) and send to all the newsdesks in the U.S. I bet somone would run it.
 Quoting: Writemeaticket Red


I would worry for my safety if I were to actually do that. I don't even feel completely safe discussing it on an internet forum.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6323246


I can relate to what you are saying, but appreciate your coming on board. I'm not sure how safe an internet forum really is. Some might be set up for psychological analysis and others as a diversion--to occupy the mind and confuse issues. As much as I would like to hear more--if you feel in danger---pull back...
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If you write it all up and mail it to all the major newsdesks -- anonymously & from a remote location -- you could blow the lid off the subject. And possibly even save some people.
 Quoting: Writemeaticket Red


The other thing is, I have absolutely zero proof other than my word. I know for a fact that our research lab is no longer in the same location as it was when I worked there. I drove by a couple years ago, and the sign is for some new company I've never heard of. I was forced to surrender my lab notebooks upon retirement. I was also forced to allow them to search my house and car upon retirement, and they were given full right to confiscate anything that could have been related to my work. People have come to the media saying they worked at Area 51, but never get real media coverage for the same reason - the only proof they have is their experiences.
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Where's The Guy and Snakey on this one?


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I’m curious as to what motivated you to discuss Chemtrails?
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I guess I've been needing to get it off my chest for some time. I can't talk about it with family and friends - they think I am making some sort of "mad scientist" joke and laugh it off. None of them have ever taken me seriously when I try to explain the details of my career. I was just a research chemist as far as they are concerned.
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Everyone needs someone to talk to. That is human nature. But the question will always remains--can that person be trusted? I wish we could communicate 1:1 and not on this forum.
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Re: I spent 17 years developing various chemicals for Chemtrails - ask me almost anything.
2 questions:

1) you mentioned these chemicals were sometimes designed to "calm". Any of these mixtures have to do with memory loss or attention deficits? Seems like people are complaining more and more of being scatter brained and forgetful. People seem to lose focus a lot too.

2) is there a way to avoid them or detox from these chemicals?


Thanks
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There was one project where we were asked to "experiment" with memory loss compounds. I think our contractors asked us to "experiment" because they knew it was a very tricky field. We ended up making a little headway, but could not develop anything that was anything near safe for use on humans. So the project was scrapped. As far as attention deficit, there was a project we worked on that was supposed to induce temporary inability to focus. I suppose that's the same thing.

As far as a way to avoid these sorts of thing...I suppose a way of avoiding chemicals greater than 0.1 μm in size would protect you against most of what we worked on. Good luck wearing something like that and not looking like a nutjob in public (maybe Japan has the right idea?). Detox - no clue. Not my area of expertise.
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Well there are factions of people that think the sky is being cloaked to prevent people from actually seeing the real sky. As in they are "editing" the sky.


For example here is a sample video:


[link to www.youtube.com]


Strange indeed. I've never seen anything like this phenomena. Chemtrails are around all of these phenomena.
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Doesn't sound like anything I ever worked on. But as a scientist, I would say that the sky you see is the sky that exists. But if I've learned anything over the years, it's that even scientists can be fooled.
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By the way, in case some of you haven't noticed, I'm choosing not to respond to any religious trolls who are asking me how it feels to be doomed to eternal hellfire. I've come to terms with my career over the past decade. I'm not here to argue religion and the afterlife.
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I did notice, good choice.
it's well past my bed time so I'm out. I want to thank for playing!
You seemed to be forthright and truthful thru out. If your looking for solace by posting here and now I hope you find it.

With blessings take care.
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Re: I spent 17 years developing various chemicals for Chemtrails - ask me almost anything.
2 questions:

1) you mentioned these chemicals were sometimes designed to "calm". Any of these mixtures have to do with memory loss or attention deficits? Seems like people are complaining more and more of being scatter brained and forgetful. People seem to lose focus a lot too.

2) is there a way to avoid them or detox from these chemicals?


Thanks
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There was one project where we were asked to "experiment" with memory loss compounds. I think our contractors asked us to "experiment" because they knew it was a very tricky field. We ended up making a little headway, but could not develop anything that was anything near safe for use on humans. So the project was scrapped. As far as attention deficit, there was a project we worked on that was supposed to induce temporary inability to focus. I suppose that's the same thing.

As far as a way to avoid these sorts of thing...I suppose a way of avoiding chemicals greater than 0.1 μm in size would protect you against most of what we worked on. Good luck wearing something like that and not looking like a nutjob in public (maybe Japan has the right idea?). Detox - no clue. Not my area of expertise.
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Did the experiment on memory loss involve the neurotransmitters? Was it chemical as in pharmaceutical in nature?
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Was this for the military? Are you Chemist? Is it a worldwide phenomenon? What is the purpose of Chemtrails?
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Clientele: See previous posts - I had no idea (still don't to this day).
Am I a chemist: Yes, I received a B.S. in Chemistry, and my PhD in biochemistry.
Is it a worldwide phenomenon: See previous post - North America is not the only continent to use aerially dispersed chemicals.
Purpose of chemtrails: See previous posts.
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A 'B.S.' you say?

as in Bull Shit?
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I see no reason not to believe op. We all have our demons we have to deal with from time to time in this life or the next. He's just trying to deal with it. Nice job op. best of luck to you.
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Re: I spent 17 years developing various chemicals for Chemtrails - ask me almost anything.
2 questions:

1) you mentioned these chemicals were sometimes designed to "calm". Any of these mixtures have to do with memory loss or attention deficits? Seems like people are complaining more and more of being scatter brained and forgetful. People seem to lose focus a lot too.

2) is there a way to avoid them or detox from these chemicals?


Thanks
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6902029


There was one project where we were asked to "experiment" with memory loss compounds. I think our contractors asked us to "experiment" because they knew it was a very tricky field. We ended up making a little headway, but could not develop anything that was anything near safe for use on humans. So the project was scrapped. As far as attention deficit, there was a project we worked on that was supposed to induce temporary inability to focus. I suppose that's the same thing.

As far as a way to avoid these sorts of thing...I suppose a way of avoiding chemicals greater than 0.1 μm in size would protect you against most of what we worked on. Good luck wearing something like that and not looking like a nutjob in public (maybe Japan has the right idea?). Detox - no clue. Not my area of expertise.
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Versed creates amnesia as does other similarly classed pharmaceuticals. Was this the nature of the research in pharmaceuticals with mind altering states?
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There was one project where we were asked to "experiment" with memory loss compounds. I think our contractors asked us to "experiment" because they knew it was a very tricky field. We ended up making a little headway, but could not develop anything that was anything near safe for use on humans. So the project was scrapped. As far as attention deficit, there was a project we worked on that was supposed to induce temporary inability to focus. I suppose that's the same thing.

As far as a way to avoid these sorts of thing...I suppose a way of avoiding chemicals greater than 0.1 μm in size would protect you against most of what we worked on. Good luck wearing something like that and not looking like a nutjob in public (maybe Japan has the right idea?). Detox - no clue. Not my area of expertise.
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Did the experiment on memory loss involve the neurotransmitters? Was it chemical as in pharmaceutical in nature?
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Good questions. We were indeed trying to alter the behavior of neurotransmitter receptors (G protein-coupled receptors to be specific) for that project. But we were unable to achieve the desired result without jeopardizing the safety of the subject.
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A 'B.S.' you say?

as in Bull Shit?
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Bachelor of Science. Not like I didn't hear that joke a million times throughout undergrad.
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If you write it all up and mail it to all the major newsdesks -- anonymously & from a remote location -- you could blow the lid off the subject. And possibly even save some people.
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The other thing is, I have absolutely zero proof other than my word. I know for a fact that our research lab is no longer in the same location as it was when I worked there. I drove by a couple years ago, and the sign is for some new company I've never heard of. I was forced to surrender my lab notebooks upon retirement. I was also forced to allow them to search my house and car upon retirement, and they were given full right to confiscate anything that could have been related to my work. People have come to the media saying they worked at Area 51, but never get real media coverage for the same reason - the only proof they have is their experiences.
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And if you talk about it, the majority of people cannot relate. So you are isolated. I understand your coming on board.
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I give this thread a huge bump and 5 stars
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Versed creates amnesia as does other similarly classed pharmaceuticals. Was this the nature of the research in pharmaceuticals with mind altering states?
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Are you referring to the drug Midazolam? All I know is that it's a somewhat controversial drug, but looking at it's chemical structure, I can say that it shares some reactive properties with chemicals developed for projects with the intent of altering state of mind.
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There was one project where we were asked to "experiment" with memory loss compounds. I think our contractors asked us to "experiment" because they knew it was a very tricky field. We ended up making a little headway, but could not develop anything that was anything near safe for use on humans. So the project was scrapped. As far as attention deficit, there was a project we worked on that was supposed to induce temporary inability to focus. I suppose that's the same thing.

As far as a way to avoid these sorts of thing...I suppose a way of avoiding chemicals greater than 0.1 μm in size would protect you against most of what we worked on. Good luck wearing something like that and not looking like a nutjob in public (maybe Japan has the right idea?). Detox - no clue. Not my area of expertise.
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Did the experiment on memory loss involve the neurotransmitters? Was it chemical as in pharmaceutical in nature?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5114133


Good questions. We were indeed trying to alter the behavior of neurotransmitter receptors (G protein-coupled receptors to be specific) for that project. But we were unable to achieve the desired result without jeopardizing the safety of the subject.
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Please elaborate. Brain chemistry interests me.
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2 questions:

1) you mentioned these chemicals were sometimes designed to "calm". Any of these mixtures have to do with memory loss or attention deficits? Seems like people are complaining more and more of being scatter brained and forgetful. People seem to lose focus a lot too.

2) is there a way to avoid them or detox from these chemicals?


Thanks
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There was one project where we were asked to "experiment" with memory loss compounds. I think our contractors asked us to "experiment" because they knew it was a very tricky field. We ended up making a little headway, but could not develop anything that was anything near safe for use on humans. So the project was scrapped. As far as attention deficit, there was a project we worked on that was supposed to induce temporary inability to focus. I suppose that's the same thing.

As far as a way to avoid these sorts of thing...I suppose a way of avoiding chemicals greater than 0.1 μm in size would protect you against most of what we worked on. Good luck wearing something like that and not looking like a nutjob in public (maybe Japan has the right idea?). Detox - no clue. Not my area of expertise.
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Thanks. Thats what I was wondering about with the focus. I hear many people say they can't read past a few sentences in a book before they lose interest, lose concentration or get bored.

Also, when you say "calming" effect, is that the same as "lazy" effect? People seem way unmotivated/lazy too. Lol

Btw, I wouldve listened to you talk about work if you were my family member :)

Are you still a chemist?
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Versed creates amnesia as does other similarly classed pharmaceuticals. Was this the nature of the research in pharmaceuticals with mind altering states?
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Are you referring to the drug Midazolam? All I know is that it's a somewhat controversial drug, but looking at it's chemical structure, I can say that it shares some reactive properties with chemicals developed for projects with the intent of altering state of mind.
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Yes, Midazolam.