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I spent 17 years developing various chemicals for Chemtrails - ask me almost anything.

 
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ONE convincing video that backs all your (non) arguments...
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waiting
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Is OP coming back?
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Poor, Roxy...

Ran out of YouTube vids made by mental patients, huh?

popcorn
"Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail"

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i live near tinker air force base and notice all sorts of different flight patterns every day almost so should i keep aiming my (wicked) laser at these aircraft?
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Poor, Roxy...

Ran out of YouTube vids made by mental patients, huh?

popcorn
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I bet that you have some very strange YouTubes straight from yout insane asylum ward there snake.

popcornpopcornpopcornpopcornpopcornpopcorn
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Poor, Roxy...

Ran out of YouTube vids made by mental patients, huh?

popcorn
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


I bet that you have some very strange YouTubes straight from yout insane asylum ward there snake.

popcornpopcornpopcornpopcornpopcornpopcorn
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wow

You came up with that all on your onesies, did'ja?

lmao
"Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail"

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i live near tinker air force base and notice all sorts of different flight patterns every day almost so should i keep aiming my (wicked) laser at these aircraft?
 Quoting: FROZTZILLA 8499887


I don't know what you have but you are very stupid and wrong . . . what you are doing could be considered a hostile act. . . Consequences could be more than you could imagine. . . Targeting aircrew with a laser could possibly harm eyesight and do permanent damage. . .

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Poor, Roxy...

Ran out of YouTube vids made by mental patients, huh?

popcorn
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


Now that you mention it...

Former FBI Chief Ted Gunderson Says Chemtrail Death Dumps Must Be Stopped




Worst Chemtrail Spraying on Chicago Part I Sept, 20, 2011




Danger In The Sky - The Chemtrail Phenomenon




How To STOP Chemtrails




The insider: chemtrails KC-10 sprayer air to air - The proof





PROOF Poison is INTENTIONALLY sprayed in our air to make us sick!




Is Morgellons Disease Caused By Chemtrail Spraying?




What is Morgellons? The Mystery is Being Solved.




CHEMTRAILS X RAY





What in the world are they spraying? (1/7)



...........................................................​.


This is an excellent website to keep track of what is going on with aerosol spraying...
[link to www.geoengineeringwatch.org]


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Poor, Roxy...

Ran out of YouTube vids made by mental patients, huh?

popcorn
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


ONE convincing video that backs all your (non) arguments...

Djiez! Is it that difficult to find any?
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lmao
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


What, you believe OP?

Have you heard this children's cute Campfire song?

Little cabin in the woods.

In a cabin in the woods
Little man by the window stood
Saw a rabbit hopping by
Knocking at his door.

look it up Snake.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8461120


I'm sure this post makes perfect sense to you...

chuckle
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


Does it make sense to you that a man/woman comes and claims that he/she has helped make chemtrails possible and made tons of money, but to ease his/her burden/guilt to ask questions in the mean time this soul has runs off to a safe place while the rest of the poor folks can be contaminated with chemtrails and endure the situation because they have no where else to go??
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Have you ever heard the term internet troll?
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Hi OP. Thanks so much for your details. You are very important to what we are trying to learn. A couple of questions for you:

1-Is Aluminum Oxide a lot one of the compounds you worked on a lot?

2-What advice could you give us to find a way to get this stopped?
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OP, you may have answered before. . . .please excuse me if you have. . . In a recent GLP Poll . . . (see below) almost 54% of the voters feel that CHEMTRAILs are persistent while contrails are not. . . In Your Opinion. . . Could the addition of the class of chemicals you worked with . . .make any of the visible trails from aircraft more persistent. . . if so, would the persistence have been significant? . . . coffee4

If you have already answered the above question or something similar . . . Could I ask you. . . How would you have voted in the poll below?


POLL: CHEMTRAILs are what???

4) CHEMTRAILs are persistent trails, contrails are not persistent   53.8% (133)

2) all trails in the sky are contrails, CHEMTRAILs don't exist   17.4% (43)

3) some trails in the sky are CHEMTRAILs but most trails are contrails   14.2% (35)

5) CHEMTRAILs nor contrails need be visible, visibility is coincidental    6.9% (17)

1) all trails in the sky are CHEMTRAILs, contrails are a subset of contrails   5.7% (14)

6) CHEMTRAILs are very rare but are occasionally seen   2.0% (5)

Blank (View Results) (58)

Non-Blank Votes: 247
 Quoting: George B


I would have answered #3 and #5 - the two are not mutually exclusive. Answer #4 is a common misconception. Answer #2 is a naive denial. Answer #1 is simply not true. Answer #6 is overly optimistic.
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Hello OP, and thank you for answering questions related to your career.

I have one question.

Could/would you think back through all the chemical products your lab was asked to create/test and list a simplified chart of

1. the chemical name
2. the intended effect
3. successful or not

If you feel this would identify you then please disregard the request.

And the old woman inside me can't help but offer you a last comment. Please accept it for consideration.

All humans on earth are guilty of our own ignorance. None have been fully informed.
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Sorry, but creating such a compilation and releasing it publicly would go way too far beyond the level of specificity that I feel comfortable with.
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Hello,

The people or organization that funded this work seems very private and have have alot of resources. Your shop doesn't sound cheap even being one so small.

Also it is reassuring that the scientists had some ethics regarding working on project that would overtly do harmful.

The work and interactions with the customer seems so compartmentalized as well. Also seems to aid plausible dependability. Especially when it seems the work were not FDA approved and such. Did did you ever wonder about these factors? It all seems to spit on 'knowledge is power' to some level.

Were any research data and records ever available to aid future projects? I imagine aspects from past research would be helpful.
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There were cases where it was blatantly obvious that we were being contracted by people who had employed us in the past. Even to the point of them giving us our old lab notebooks from previous projects back, if they thought they would help with the newer project. But in most cases, we could only use retained knowledge from previous projects to help us with similar projects in the future.
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OP, I have read roughly 20 or so of the pages on here and you have answered my other question so thanks for that. Forgive me if you have already answered this question before.

Were you ever informed of any results of what what used in the chemtrails? Did you guys ever have feedback on what your mixtures done to citizens? Did you ever hear of any of the mixtures being fatal once sprayed or if there were any extreme side effects? Were there any mixtures you were told to stop producing because they were fatal or caused too much harm?
Thanks in advance.
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No - we never heard results about any of our products. Probably related to plausible deniability. We could only speculate as to final results based on our animal trials.
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i live near tinker air force base and notice all sorts of different flight patterns every day almost so should i keep aiming my (wicked) laser at these aircraft?
 Quoting: FROZTZILLA 8499887


That doesn't seem safe or smart.
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Hi OP. Thanks so much for your details. You are very important to what we are trying to learn. A couple of questions for you:

1-Is Aluminum Oxide a lot one of the compounds you worked on a lot?

2-What advice could you give us to find a way to get this stopped?
 Quoting: Question about alum oxide 3563262


Al2O3 - No.

Advice - Please see earlier in the thread. I realize this has drawn on pretty long and it might be hard to find that specific response, so I'll give you a brief answer. I'm pretty pessimistic about "getting this stopped". Writing a letter to your congressman isn't going to help. Going to the media isn't going to help unless you have solid, undeniable proof.
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Goodnight all. Not sure why I came back here, even after I said I was done. But I'm not sorry that I have.
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Hi OP. Thanks so much for your details. You are very important to what we are trying to learn. A couple of questions for you:

1-Is Aluminum Oxide a lot one of the compounds you worked on a lot?

2-What advice could you give us to find a way to get this stopped?
 Quoting: Question about alum oxide 3563262


Al2O3 - No.

Advice - Please see earlier in the thread. I realize this has drawn on pretty long and it might be hard to find that specific response, so I'll give you a brief answer. I'm pretty pessimistic about "getting this stopped". Writing a letter to your congressman isn't going to help. Going to the media isn't going to help unless you have solid, undeniable proof.
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why is it hard to find proof of something that is supposedly floating around all over the place?? seriously.
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Goodnight all. Not sure why I came back here, even after I said I was done. But I'm not sorry that I have.
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Perhaps you don't feel fully vindicated yet?

Maybe there are some comments/suggestions you could provide that would be truly useful to readers in helping expand their awareness and ability to help themselves.

Perhaps readers could form their own action groups to confirm symptoms and sightings per location and 'maybe' be better armed to present a case..

Perhaps.

:)
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Hi OP. Thanks so much for your details. You are very important to what we are trying to learn. A couple of questions for you:

1-Is Aluminum Oxide a lot one of the compounds you worked on a lot?

2-What advice could you give us to find a way to get this stopped?
 Quoting: Question about alum oxide 3563262


Al2O3 - No.

Advice - Please see earlier in the thread. I realize this has drawn on pretty long and it might be hard to find that specific response, so I'll give you a brief answer. I'm pretty pessimistic about "getting this stopped". Writing a letter to your congressman isn't going to help. Going to the media isn't going to help unless you have solid, undeniable proof.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6323246


why is it hard to find proof of something that is supposedly floating around all over the place?? seriously.
 Quoting: exiled1


That's a good point!

Surely a few new and clean HEPA filters could be sent for analysis after a day of air sucking?

Maybe even the OP could find the particulates in building a body of evidence?

Its not something that can done by just ONE... Only a group could achieve the desired outcome.
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Lots of good links/videos here on chemtrailing...

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Hi AC 133..

Heavy metal build up can cause extreme lethargy.

Eventually the body becomes so polluted that its reactive connection to the brain is distorted...

Perhaps to the point where the two no longer 'remember' how to
animate a response to a given stimuli.
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what do you do about this?

how to begin healing?

thank you
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Hi AC 133..

Heavy metal build up can cause extreme lethargy.

Eventually the body becomes so polluted that its reactive connection to the brain is distorted...

Perhaps to the point where the two no longer 'remember' how to
animate a response to a given stimuli.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1273422


I am pretty sure this is part what made me deathly sick last year. I am a 25 yr old female and I've been seeing chemtrails around NC for a couple of years now. VERY heavy over the last few months. I thought I might have Morgellons last year as I had some of the sores and other weird shit that goes along with it...but it turns out the majority of my problem was heavy metal toxicity along with EMF sensitivity (wonder if they could be related??)...no clue as to how or why I got so sick over just a couple of years. I got REALLY sick after a vaccination for H1N1 as my employer at the time required us to get them (hospital). I searched for months for a cure as I got sicker and sicker. I had short term memory loss, tremors, mild seizures, and other weird neurological problems I had never had in the past.

Finally I decided to do some MAJOR detoxing and all kinds of heavy metals and weird stuff started showing up in some of my results...as our DNA continues to change into higher vibrations and different expression (as energies are increasing all around us), heavy metals and other unknown toxins will have a much more elevated effect within our systems, messing up a lot of different gene expression...

while we can't control what they might be spraying, living healthy and organic otherwise can really help to try to cleanse our systems in every other way possible. Its amazing what you can absorb through your skin....
 Quoting: Missioninvisible


MISSIONINVISIBLE can you give any advice on how to start a heavy metal detox?
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Hi OP. Thanks so much for your details. You are very important to what we are trying to learn. A couple of questions for you:

1-Is Aluminum Oxide a lot one of the compounds you worked on a lot?

2-What advice could you give us to find a way to get this stopped?
 Quoting: Question about alum oxide 3563262


Al2O3 - No.

Advice - Please see earlier in the thread. I realize this has drawn on pretty long and it might be hard to find that specific response, so I'll give you a brief answer. I'm pretty pessimistic about "getting this stopped". Writing a letter to your congressman isn't going to help. Going to the media isn't going to help unless you have solid, undeniable proof.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6323246


why is it hard to find proof of something that is supposedly floating around all over the place?? seriously.
 Quoting: exiled1


That's a good point!

Surely a few new and clean HEPA filters could be sent for analysis after a day of air sucking?

Maybe even the OP could find the particulates in building a body of evidence?

Its not something that can done by just ONE... Only a group could achieve the desired outcome.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1273422


And how would one prove the source of the particulates found on the filter?! So far, everything the chemtards are claiming is in the "spray", is found in nature. Always has been...always will be.

To "believe" one can use HEPA filters to prove what is in the trails is just stupid. All the filter will show is what is in our air...and finding natural elements in the air doesn't prove where they came from.
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Why should I care?
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Hi AC 133..

Heavy metal build up can cause extreme lethargy.

Eventually the body becomes so polluted that its reactive connection to the brain is distorted...

Perhaps to the point where the two no longer 'remember' how to
animate a response to a given stimuli.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1273422


I am pretty sure this is part what made me deathly sick last year. I am a 25 yr old female and I've been seeing chemtrails around NC for a couple of years now. VERY heavy over the last few months. I thought I might have Morgellons last year as I had some of the sores and other weird shit that goes along with it...but it turns out the majority of my problem was heavy metal toxicity along with EMF sensitivity (wonder if they could be related??)...no clue as to how or why I got so sick over just a couple of years. I got REALLY sick after a vaccination for H1N1 as my employer at the time required us to get them (hospital). I searched for months for a cure as I got sicker and sicker. I had short term memory loss, tremors, mild seizures, and other weird neurological problems I had never had in the past.

Finally I decided to do some MAJOR detoxing and all kinds of heavy metals and weird stuff started showing up in some of my results...as our DNA continues to change into higher vibrations and different expression (as energies are increasing all around us), heavy metals and other unknown toxins will have a much more elevated effect within our systems, messing up a lot of different gene expression...

while we can't control what they might be spraying, living healthy and organic otherwise can really help to try to cleanse our systems in every other way possible. Its amazing what you can absorb through your skin....
 Quoting: Missioninvisible


MISSIONINVISIBLE can you give any advice on how to start a heavy metal detox?
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A hot lead injection to the brain is a great start.
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First off, YOU show us where the Moon is in that photo of the GROUND,
and then the AC will show you the "halo:

popcorn

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 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


That is his responsibility, not mine. . . He said there was a 22 degree halo in the picture. . . Thus the trails were ice crystals. . . Let him prove it you jerk . . .huffy

 Quoting: George B


That is a lie. I never said any such thing. You asked how a 22 degree hako can be produced at night and I said the Moon. When looking at cirrus clouds the 22 degree halo indicates that the composition is ice crystals and not something else. You really are stupid.
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In the context of the discussion I took the following Post as a statement not a question. . . .

"...
But things like the 22 degree halo proves it is ice and not some other chemical.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2674622 "

So I expected AC 22 to answer the question. . . Where in the photo is the halo. . . Seems simple enough to me. . . :
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Again your logic and your statements are flawed. I made a general statement regarding observations of 22 degree halo associated with contrails. This shows that the composition is ice crystals and not some other material. You seem to be unable to follow logical statements and try to falsely apply them to pictures you do not understand.
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That is his responsibility, not mine. . . He said there was a 22 degree halo in the picture. . . Thus the trails were ice crystals. . . Let him prove it you jerk . . .huffy

 Quoting: George B


That is a lie. I never said any such thing. You asked how a 22 degree hako can be produced at night and I said the Moon. When looking at cirrus clouds the 22 degree halo indicates that the composition is ice crystals and not something else. You really are stupid.
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In the context of the discussion I took the following Post as a statement not a question. . . .

"...
But things like the 22 degree halo proves it is ice and not some other chemical.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2674622 "

So I expected AC 22 to answer the question. . . Where in the photo is the halo. . . Seems simple enough to me. . . :
 Quoting: George B




Again your logic and your statements are flawed. I made a general statement regarding observations of 22 degree halo associated with contrails. This shows that the composition is ice crystals and not some other material. You seem to be unable to follow logical statements and try to falsely apply them to pictures you do not understand.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2674622


Come on...are you actually suggesting that a chemtard is unable to follow logic?! That's ridiculous!

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