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I spent 17 years developing various chemicals for Chemtrails - ask me almost anything.

 
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Wonder if they got him?...helicopter





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For if we lose to Radical Islam, we will have no lrebity. And Libertarians will be the first ones carted off to the Muslim Re-Education camps.Has something changed while I wasn't paying attention? Last I checked, the chance of Radical Islam conquering the U.S., or for that matter any part of the Americas was so close to zero that Alien Abductions, Satanic Cults, and Cattle Mutilators are probably bigger threats.Perhaps Eric Dondero feels compelled to check his closets & under his bed for "Islamofascists" every night, but the reality is that in our 230+ year history there have been exactly 5 successful attacks on U.S. soil by Islamic terrorist groups and 3 of those were committed on the same day as part of a single plan. Europe, the Middle East & Asia on the other hand have a long history of frequent terrorist acts. Letting them handle their own affairs was once a highly successful policy for preventing it from spreading to the western hemisphere. There is no evidence that the massive spending by the DHS has done a bit of good, and plenty of evidence that a significant portion of it was flagrantly wasted.
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that is ogearutous. how does closing schools help the economy? in my view it hurts more than anything….we stop educating our children who are the future of this great country….
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I didn't say it was impossible. This reminds me of something I've seen before on GLP though - the belief that a contrail that quickly dissipates and disappears is a natural contrail, and anything that lingers and spreads is a chemtrail. This is not true. I worked on compounds that were specially designed to disappear within minutes of deployment. I also worked on mixtures that, to achieve their desired effect, were unable to dissipate in such a short time span. Natural contrails can behave either way. So can chemtrails.
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Oh, thanks for clearing this up, so sometimes we don't know what we are getting sprayed on us. Why chemtrails at night?
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Lower temperatures and less people watching are a couple I can think of. Especially when a mixture would, under sunlight, appear as anything other than white/gray.
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Bright pink for instance?
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Does it come in a can that a lineboy on a flight line pours into a tank of jet fuel to kill algae and other things that grow in jet fuel that can clog fuel lines?
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Have read a large part of this thread and suspect either:

A)OP is telling the 100% truth and what he says is what's happening.

B)OP is disseminating an elaborate and well-constructed psy-op to silence the subject with an ".... ok, it's just some mild compounds to calm us down..." and the real truth is much worse.

C)OP is telling the 100% truth and his "industry" is compartmentalized (like EVERYTHING) to an extent that he would not know if "worse" things were happening, and, given the inexorable march of progress, have gotten so scary, that you would not want to know what's really going on now.

In my heart, I know that option C is most likely.

OP, if you are for real, thank you for letting your guilt get the better of you. If you are an agent: May you live forever in Liberia.
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02/11/2012 07:42 PM
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Amazing how often OP contradicts themselves throughout this thread.A bad story told by an even worse story teller.
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[I look doen at my kebroayd and think about how I read to the third paragraph before I went back to the top to see the first two words "Dear Liz." I also think about how hard it is to read with my eyes all teary. Gee. I push my chair back and go walk around my condo a bit and blog my nose. Dear Joanna,I doubt I'll ever know or be able to explain how significant your words are to me. I am more than touched or moved. I am wishing I still had what little Italian I knew as a child so that I could bring the combination of joy, gratitude, and welcome generosity that gets conveyed when a smiling face says, “Prego,” “Grazie,” “Prego.”I will always remember this moment.Liz
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Dear LizYou have cveyeond the feeling perfectly, and I feel it. Thank you.One day when we get to meet I’ll give you a hug, but for now this seemed the best thing that I could do JoannaPS I didn’t think you’d had time to blog your nose. It was a fun typo though!
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Can't tell you the name of my employers. Nor can I tell you the exact chemical compositions of the mixtures I helped developed. I can answer almost everything else.
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Maybe it's been asked. Who are the soul-less pilots they
get to fly the Chemtrail planes?
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Can't tell you the name of my employers. Nor can I tell you the exact chemical compositions of the mixtures I helped developed. I can answer almost everything else.
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Maybe it's been asked. Who are the soul-less pilots they
get to fly the Chemtrail planes?
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The same pilots who fly goods and passengers all over the world. The trails are a normal byproduct of hydrocarbon combustion.
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One was to prove it is to find the tank of a decommissioned airliner and test the tank for any chems. Or how about soil samples.....there are tests that can detect ppb....and im sure it would take quite a bit to affect a human....if this is as big and is happening daily or weekly...then a test would pick up some sort of sample. Idk know where the hell they scrap their planes but soil or other chem tests are available.
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Evidence For Atmospheric Aerosol Spraying

Post date: Sunday, January 1st 2012 at 7:15 pm by Isaac Lewis


Evidence For Atmospheric Aerosol Spraying

Often when the topic of “chemtrails” come up, the knee-jerk response is to view them as “conspiracy theory,” owing to the fact that the evidence of our senses -- i.e. actually seeing them with our eyes -- is not considered evidence enough. We are made to believe that only Science, and its primarily excreta - peer-reviewed, published research - can vindicate eye witness or anecdotal accounts. Those who debunk the notion that the increasingly prevalent 'persistent contrails' we see all around us contain anything other than water vapor and/or ice crystals, forbid their existence a priori, often claiming there is no substantiation from authoritative sources that #1: they exist, and #2: they contribute to illness.

What better place, therefore, than to look to the National Library of Medicine, the source and the "gold standard" for this much-needed "authoritative evidence" that aircraft are spraying anything of a chemical nature at all.

On MEDLINE the topic of “atmospheric aerosal spraying” does, in fact, come up. One author in particular suggests that chronic barium exposure and intoxication may be occurring from atmospheric aerosol spraying, done “for enhancing/refracting the signalling of radio/radar waves along military jet flight paths, missile test ranges, etc.” He believes barium may be responsible for the high incidence clustering of multiple sclerosis and other neurodegenerative diseases such as transmissible spongiform encephalopathies (TSEs) and amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS) in certain regions where it is a major environmental contaminant.

In a second article on the same topic the same author identifies Silver (Ag), Barium (Ba) and Strontium (Sr) and low levels of copper (Cu) as having accumulated in the food chain due, in part, to “aerial spraying with 'cloud seeding' Ag or Ba crystal nuclei for rain making in these drought-prone areas of North America, the atmospheric spraying with Ba based aerosols for enhancing/refracting radar and radio signal communications...” The bioaccumulation of these elements into the food chain can result in a neurodegenerative process that can be confused with transmissible spongiform encephalopathies (TSEs) of infectious origin.

Another study published in the journal Ecotoxicology and Environmental Safety in 2002, reports that “Over the last 25 years, several hundred thousand pounds of aluminized chaff have been released during flight operations over a training area on the Chesapeake Bay.” Another article, in the same journal the same year, states that “At least 500 tons of chaff is released annually during training within selected military operating areas in the United States.” The article also describes the nature of the chemical being released in more detail:

“Chaff is a radiofrequency countermeasure released by military aircraft, ships, and vehicles to confuse enemy radar. Chaff consists of aluminum-coated glass fibers ranging in lengths from 0.8 to 0.75 cm and is released in packets of 0.5 to 100 million fibers. The Department of Defense has determined that use of chaff in training is required for maintaining proficiency in the use of this countermeasure.”

The authors also touch upon the related health issues:

“Concerns have been raised about impact on the environment and its potential toxicity to humans, livestock, and wildlife. Many of these concerns have been addressed or are being researched by the Department of Defense and other agencies, but much of the data are unpublished.”

As one can now see, contrails are not the only explanation for the visible trails left by aircraft. Contrails, which are "the visible trail of streaks of condensed water vapor or ice crystals sometimes forming in the wake of an aircraft," generally do not persist very long, nor do they contain aluminum or barium. Although "persistent contrails" may form under certain natural meteorological conditions, they do not explain the criss-crossed patterning often observed in the skies throughout the world, nor the effects these discharges have upon surrounding clouds, other weather and the people exposed to fallout from them.

Knowing now that peer-reviewed and published research exists which reference aircraft spraying chemicals for either military or geo-engineering purposes, should move this debate from the realm of alleged "conspiracy theory" to that of intelligent debate and public inquiry.

Right now, nothing of the sort is possible. If you search sites like Wikipedia or online dictionaries for the term "chemtrail" you will get a redirect to another phrase you did not search for: "chemtrail conspiracy theory," as evidenced below....


So, are the "chemtrails" the conspiracy theory, OR, is the conspiracy against discussing, investigating and understanding what is behind them?

For some of us, the question put to us increasingly by our own eyes is: what in the world are they spraying? In an investigative documentary by the same name, this question is thoroughly considered. Please watch it, if you are interested, and provide your comments/impressions afterwards below. Also, feel free to review our atmospheric aerosal spray page and bookmark it for future research updates (GMI-Pro members can subscribe to the page topic for instant email updates when new research is added).
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HEY, HEY, YOU, YOU GET OFF OF MY CLOUD!

[link to youtu.be]
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HEY, HEY, YOU, YOU GET OFF OF MY CLOUD!

[link to youtu.be]
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I posted this very video 2 days ago and at that time it was not malformed.
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HEY, HEY, YOU, YOU GET OFF OF MY CLOUD!

[link to youtu.be]
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I posted this very video 2 days ago and at that time it was not malformed.
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The Boat That Rocked (2009) - The Meaning of Life (deleted scene) (dance)
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Here it is, it's cute.
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This one of those threads where we need a volunteer computer wiz to consolidate all of OPs posts/info!

hf
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Thanks for this thread, OP. It's been very interesting.

I have questions I don't think you've been asked before. You mentioned that you knew that North America was not the only continent to get chemtrailed.

- Do you know whether Canada does? I feel like you implied that it does.

- The other country/countries you know about: If you don't want to name them, is there any identifying feature they might have, for example, you said this is costly to employ: Wealthy countries? Or, obvious militarization potential: Other war power countries that may run tests on their civilians, e.g., Russia, or, are target for war e.g., Iran?

I guess the gist of my second question is, I hypothesize that poorer countries that are not of military interest to powerful countries probably don't have chemtrails (lots of other pollution and problems though, of course). Would you suspect the same?
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wouldn't be easier and cheaper to put this stuff(?) in the water?
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paranoid interpretation based on a fucked up world view....nothing more


027 you need to improve your vocabulary, 'cause you suck at communication. Give it a rest. Leave normal people alone. Seeya


You people aren't normal!!!! You are idiots! You act like Chicken Little because you are IGNORANT about aviation and atmospheric science.

YOU suck at science...and so do all of your stupid friends here...and on every chemtard site out there. It's paranoid nonsense based on complete ignorance.


Noble, get off the computer and behave yourself. Your momma is callin'. Time for school, lil fella. Seeya


Hehe, it's you who needs to go to school...with the rest of the chemtards...and learn at LEAST the basics about air saturation and the jet engine. It's obvious that the chemtards have NEVER studied these subjects...and they just accpet nonsense they find on conspiracy sites as fact..

It's just so pathetic! You people are so ignorant about your ignorance.

Pathetic...and hilarious..

You Chicken Little type pussies were OBVIOUSLY put on this earth for MY entertainment. I appreciate the sacrifices you chemtards make! To just remain completely ignorant about basic and simple science...it must be so tough for you people...Thanks, stooge.


i came to this site to try and understand why a friend down the road beleives what he does.
Your all barking mad.
You too noble, just a bit less so.
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paranoid interpretation based on a fucked up world view....nothing more
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027 you need to improve your vocabulary, 'cause you suck at communication. Give it a rest. Leave normal people alone. Seeya


You people aren't normal!!!! You are idiots! You act like Chicken Little because you are IGNORANT about aviation and atmospheric science.

YOU suck at science...and so do all of your stupid friends here...and on every chemtard site out there. It's paranoid nonsense based on complete ignorance.


Noble, get off the computer and behave yourself. Your momma is callin'. Time for school, lil fella. Seeya


Hehe, it's you who needs to go to school...with the rest of the chemtards...and learn at LEAST the basics about air saturation and the jet engine. It's obvious that the chemtards have NEVER studied these subjects...and they just accpet nonsense they find on conspiracy sites as fact..

It's just so pathetic! You people are so ignorant about your ignorance.

Pathetic...and hilarious..

You Chicken Little type pussies were OBVIOUSLY put on this earth for MY entertainment. I appreciate the sacrifices you chemtards make! To just remain completely ignorant about basic and simple science...it must be so tough for you people...Thanks, stooge.


i came to this site to try and understand why a friend down the road beleives what he does.
Your all barking mad.
You too noble, just a bit less so.


That is just wrong! Noble is every bit as barking mad.
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When will you idiots learn to PROPERLY use the quote feature?!
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12/21/2012 "Can you admit you are a shill?"

No, I can't. Because that would be a lie.

Can you admit that you are a gullible loser?
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When will you idiots learn to PROPERLY use the quote feature?!
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If it pleases, YOU. "nEVer". lol
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Huh, it game me a new user ID and doesn't show me as OP anymore. Weird
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Huh, it game me a new user ID and doesn't show me as OP anymore. Weird
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riiight scheming
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When will you idiots learn to PROPERLY use the quote feature?!
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When will you learn that being a Douchebag will get you nowhere in life DOUCHEBAG!
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DOES THIS SOUND LIKE ANYONE HERE?

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'It just makes me happy when I can make someone angry' - A special investigation into the dark world of trolling

BEN spends up to 70 hours a week on the internet getting high on other people's anger and despair.
The unemployed 19-year-old from Victoria - who spoke to news.com.au on the condition of anonymity - doesn't go out much and doesn't have many real friends, but he doesn't feel alone. He believes he's part of a community of similar-minded people who scour the web looking for pages to vandalise and lives to upset.
Ben (not his real name) first started trolling in 2008 on the online forum 4Chan.
His first act was innocuous enough: he weighed in on a discussion about religion and claimed to have disproved everything people had written.
Since then his trolling has become more vicious and destructive.
"It just makes me happy when I can make someone angry. It sounds weird but I kind of feed off their anger. The angrier I can get them, the better I feel," he told news.com.au.
He usually only trolls a post or website once before moving, not out of any sense of decency, but because he is scared of being arrested.
He said the worst thing he ever did was vandalise the Facebook memorial page of a young girl who had committed suicide. "I wrote, 'How's it hanging guys'."
He doesn't feel any remorse, and strangely doesn't consider his actions bullying despite claiming he probably wouldn't have started trolling if he had not been bullied at school.
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DOES THIS SOUND LIKE ANYONE HERE?

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'It just makes me happy when I can make someone angry' - A special investigation into the dark world of trolling

BEN spends up to 70 hours a week on the internet getting high on other people's anger and despair.
The unemployed 19-year-old from Victoria - who spoke to news.com.au on the condition of anonymity - doesn't go out much and doesn't have many real friends, but he doesn't feel alone. He believes he's part of a community of similar-minded people who scour the web looking for pages to vandalise and lives to upset.
Ben (not his real name) first started trolling in 2008 on the online forum 4Chan.
His first act was innocuous enough: he weighed in on a discussion about religion and claimed to have disproved everything people had written.
Since then his trolling has become more vicious and destructive.
"It just makes me happy when I can make someone angry. It sounds weird but I kind of feed off their anger. The angrier I can get them, the better I feel," he told news.com.au.
He usually only trolls a post or website once before moving, not out of any sense of decency, but because he is scared of being arrested.
He said the worst thing he ever did was vandalise the Facebook memorial page of a young girl who had committed suicide. "I wrote, 'How's it hanging guys'."
He doesn't feel any remorse, and strangely doesn't consider his actions bullying despite claiming he probably wouldn't have started trolling if he had not been bullied at school.
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Are you implying that I'm "trolling"?
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When will you idiots learn to PROPERLY use the quote feature?!
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If it pleases, YOU. "nEVer". lol
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The question was rhetorical...I already know the answer...
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12/21/2012 "Can you admit you are a shill?"

No, I can't. Because that would be a lie.

Can you admit that you are a gullible loser?