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I spent 17 years developing various chemicals for Chemtrails - ask me almost anything.

 
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When will you idiots learn to PROPERLY use the quote feature?!
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If it pleases, YOU. "nEVer". lol
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The question was rhetorical...I already know the answer...
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So intelligent. Not
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When will you idiots learn to PROPERLY use the quote feature?!
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If it pleases, YOU. "nEVer". lol
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The question was rhetorical...I already know the answer...
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So intelligent. Not
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...says the chemtard...
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Evidence For Atmospheric Aerosol Spraying

Post date: Sunday, January 1st 2012 at 7:15 pm by Isaac Lewis


Evidence For Atmospheric Aerosol Spraying

Often when the topic of “chemtrails” come up, the knee-jerk response is to view them as “conspiracy theory,” owing to the fact that the evidence of our senses -- i.e. actually seeing them with our eyes -- is not considered evidence enough. We are made to believe that only Science, and its primarily excreta - peer-reviewed, published research - can vindicate eye witness or anecdotal accounts. Those who debunk the notion that the increasingly prevalent 'persistent contrails' we see all around us contain anything other than water vapor and/or ice crystals, forbid their existence a priori, often claiming there is no substantiation from authoritative sources that #1: they exist, and #2: they contribute to illness.

What better place, therefore, than to look to the National Library of Medicine, the source and the "gold standard" for this much-needed "authoritative evidence" that aircraft are spraying anything of a chemical nature at all.

On MEDLINE the topic of “atmospheric aerosal spraying” does, in fact, come up. One author in particular suggests that chronic barium exposure and intoxication may be occurring from atmospheric aerosol spraying, done “for enhancing/refracting the signalling of radio/radar waves along military jet flight paths, missile test ranges, etc.” He believes barium may be responsible for the high incidence clustering of multiple sclerosis and other neurodegenerative diseases such as transmissible spongiform encephalopathies (TSEs) and amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS) in certain regions where it is a major environmental contaminant.

In a second article on the same topic the same author identifies Silver (Ag), Barium (Ba) and Strontium (Sr) and low levels of copper (Cu) as having accumulated in the food chain due, in part, to “aerial spraying with 'cloud seeding' Ag or Ba crystal nuclei for rain making in these drought-prone areas of North America, the atmospheric spraying with Ba based aerosols for enhancing/refracting radar and radio signal communications...” The bioaccumulation of these elements into the food chain can result in a neurodegenerative process that can be confused with transmissible spongiform encephalopathies (TSEs) of infectious origin.

Another study published in the journal Ecotoxicology and Environmental Safety in 2002, reports that “Over the last 25 years, several hundred thousand pounds of aluminized chaff have been released during flight operations over a training area on the Chesapeake Bay.” Another article, in the same journal the same year, states that “At least 500 tons of chaff is released annually during training within selected military operating areas in the United States.” The article also describes the nature of the chemical being released in more detail:

“Chaff is a radiofrequency countermeasure released by military aircraft, ships, and vehicles to confuse enemy radar. Chaff consists of aluminum-coated glass fibers ranging in lengths from 0.8 to 0.75 cm and is released in packets of 0.5 to 100 million fibers. The Department of Defense has determined that use of chaff in training is required for maintaining proficiency in the use of this countermeasure.”

The authors also touch upon the related health issues:

“Concerns have been raised about impact on the environment and its potential toxicity to humans, livestock, and wildlife. Many of these concerns have been addressed or are being researched by the Department of Defense and other agencies, but much of the data are unpublished.”

As one can now see, contrails are not the only explanation for the visible trails left by aircraft. Contrails, which are "the visible trail of streaks of condensed water vapor or ice crystals sometimes forming in the wake of an aircraft," generally do not persist very long, nor do they contain aluminum or barium. Although "persistent contrails" may form under certain natural meteorological conditions, they do not explain the criss-crossed patterning often observed in the skies throughout the world, nor the effects these discharges have upon surrounding clouds, other weather and the people exposed to fallout from them.

Knowing now that peer-reviewed and published research exists which reference aircraft spraying chemicals for either military or geo-engineering purposes, should move this debate from the realm of alleged "conspiracy theory" to that of intelligent debate and public inquiry.

Right now, nothing of the sort is possible. If you search sites like Wikipedia or online dictionaries for the term "chemtrail" you will get a redirect to another phrase you did not search for: "chemtrail conspiracy theory," as evidenced below....


So, are the "chemtrails" the conspiracy theory, OR, is the conspiracy against discussing, investigating and understanding what is behind them?

For some of us, the question put to us increasingly by our own eyes is: what in the world are they spraying? In an investigative documentary by the same name, this question is thoroughly considered. Please watch it, if you are interested, and provide your comments/impressions afterwards below. Also, feel free to review our atmospheric aerosal spray page and bookmark it for future research updates (GMI-Pro members can subscribe to the page topic for instant email updates when new research is added).
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Knowing now that peer-reviewed and published research exists which reference aircraft spraying chemicals for either military or geo-engineering purposes, should move this debate from the realm of alleged "conspiracy theory" to that of intelligent debate and public inquiry.


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BULLSHIT!

Chaff isn't "sprayed"...it's released/deployed.

And it looks NOTHING like the trails you chemtards put in your videos.

It's funny how you idiots involve anything to do with airplanes in this "chemtrail" hoax.

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Knowing now that peer-reviewed and published research exists which reference aircraft spraying chemicals for either military or geo-engineering purposes, should move this debate from the realm of alleged "conspiracy theory" to that of intelligent debate and public inquiry.


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BULLSHIT!

Chaff isn't "sprayed"...it's released/deployed.

And it looks NOTHING like the trails you chemtards put in your videos.

It's funny how you idiots involve anything to do with airplanes in this "chemtrail" hoax.
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All we hear from you is "BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA........
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Knowing now that peer-reviewed and published research exists which reference aircraft spraying chemicals for either military or geo-engineering purposes, should move this debate from the realm of alleged "conspiracy theory" to that of intelligent debate and public inquiry.


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BULLSHIT!

Chaff isn't "sprayed"...it's released/deployed.

And it looks NOTHING like the trails you chemtards put in your videos.

It's funny how you idiots involve anything to do with airplanes in this "chemtrail" hoax.
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All we hear from you is "BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA........
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It's not my fault that you're retarded and can't understand English...

I'm not surprised...you don't understand science either....
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12/21/2012 "Can you admit you are a shill?"

No, I can't. Because that would be a lie.

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Knowing now that peer-reviewed and published research exists which reference aircraft spraying chemicals for either military or geo-engineering purposes, should move this debate from the realm of alleged "conspiracy theory" to that of intelligent debate and public inquiry.


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BULLSHIT!

Chaff isn't "sprayed"...it's released/deployed.

And it looks NOTHING like the trails you chemtards put in your videos.

It's funny how you idiots involve anything to do with airplanes in this "chemtrail" hoax.
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It's sprayed.

1doh1

LOL
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Knowing now that peer-reviewed and published research exists which reference aircraft spraying chemicals for either military or geo-engineering purposes, should move this debate from the realm of alleged "conspiracy theory" to that of intelligent debate and public inquiry.


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1611462


BULLSHIT!

Chaff isn't "sprayed"...it's released/deployed.

And it looks NOTHING like the trails you chemtards put in your videos.

It's funny how you idiots involve anything to do with airplanes in this "chemtrail" hoax.
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It's sprayed.

1doh1

LOL
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Chaff is NOT "sprayed" you fucking idiot...
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Knowing now that peer-reviewed and published research exists which reference aircraft spraying chemicals for either military or geo-engineering purposes, should move this debate from the realm of alleged "conspiracy theory" to that of intelligent debate and public inquiry.


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1611462


BULLSHIT!

Chaff isn't "sprayed"...it's released/deployed.

And it looks NOTHING like the trails you chemtards put in your videos.

It's funny how you idiots involve anything to do with airplanes in this "chemtrail" hoax.
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It's sprayed.

1doh1

LOL
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Chaff is NOT "sprayed" you fucking idiot...
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sprayed.....SmileyWink
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If it pleases, YOU. "nEVer". lol
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The question was rhetorical...I already know the answer...
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So intelligent. Not
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...says the chemtard...
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says the dick licker.
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Anyone notice how the OP to this thread disappeared?
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Anyone notice how the OP to this thread disappeared?
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hiding

do you think they got him?
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Anyone notice how the OP to this thread disappeared?
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hiding

do you think they got him?
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YEP
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The question was rhetorical...I already know the answer...
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So intelligent. Not
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...says the chemtard...
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says the dick licker.
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why bring your mom into this?!
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So intelligent. Not
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...says the chemtard...
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says the dick licker.
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why bring your mom into this?!
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Your momma..........
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What is the chemical mixture of a "black" or shadow chemtrail?

Saw my first ones last evening about and hour before sunset in the eastern sky.

I have seen shadows created when chemmies being laid but none like the ones I saw being laid on East Coast last night.

Thank you.
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OP, what do you do to protect yourself from the effects of chemtrails?
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I live in a remote area. That is all.
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After reading this entire thread, I want to cry.

I don;t want to let my children outdoors anymore to play.


This is really really sad, a huge indictment of the short sightedness, need to control, and selfishness capabilities of the race. It makes me sick.
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if i worked in government i would leak evrything i could find to the citizens
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OP, what do you do to protect yourself from the effects of chemtrails?
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I live in a remote area. That is all.
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After reading this entire thread, I want to cry.

I don;t want to let my children outdoors anymore to play.


This is really really sad, a huge indictment of the short sightedness, need to control, and selfishness capabilities of the race. It makes me sick.
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...says the chemtard...
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says the dick licker.
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why bring your mom into this?!
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Your momma..........
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Your momma...eats ass...
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OP, I understand your reluctance to make yourself known but maybe you will reconsider and attend, at least anonymously, this conference: [link to www.consciousnessbeyondchemtrails.com]

We're Human, we Love life. We love our Home. We have a Right to it.
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OP, I understand your reluctance to make yourself known but maybe you will reconsider and attend, at least anonymously, this conference: [link to www.consciousnessbeyondchemtrails.com]

We're Human, we Love life. We love our Home. We have a Right to it.
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Maybe you can actually be a part of the solution?
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This is a really interesting thread. I hope OP visits again.

Was there any genetic or racial component to the work you were doing? Was it designed to target certain genetic markers or blood types?

You said some were designed to interact with chemicals in the blood. What kinds of chemicals would be in the blood?

When you mentioned that most of the substances would be too large to penetrate indoors it made me wonder if they were planning to target outdoor events.

Can you tell us anything about why they would be requesting something designed to be sprayed over bodies of water but targeted for humans?

OP, I hope you are enjoying life and will revisit this thread again at some point since I only recently found it.

whistle
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Can't tell you the name of my employers. Nor can I tell you the exact chemical compositions of the mixtures I helped developed. I can answer almost everything else.
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I know you, youre bernard schnitzel, and there should be a knock on your door any moment...
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Anyone notice how the OP to this thread disappeared?
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the thing to really notice is that it would take hundreds of trainloads to do this, yet, far as I can tell, no mile long trains full of chemicals arrive at airports.

You cant cover the nation coast to coast from 6 miles up with 10 or 20 tonnes of powder per aircraft, it doesnt work that way, It would take many thousands of train cars full of chemicals, and I suspect that someone among the thousands that would have to be involved nearby or involved might point that out due to guilt if nothing else
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You invented after-burners too, I suppose. And moisture pockets.

An atomized stereoisomer would leave no visible trail to the human eye.

And you haven't even mentioned the one morsel of truth there is to this subject. So even if you did spend any of this time in R&D, it was all a waste, because your work wasn't used, or else it played a very miniscule role in the real work being done.
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What doesn't sit right with me about this thread, is the fact that the OP said that there was never any ill intent or harm to be caused by these experiments. We all know full well that the Iluuminati/Elite/Committee of 300, want to depopulate the world population by 90%, so that they can easily control the ones left. The Georgia Guidestones bear this out.....
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Is the OP still active in this thread?

I've come into contact with 2 of these chemicals, they were detected mainly through smell. The first one being last June (2011). I began to notice for a short period of time a chemical with a very alien, organic odor. The best way for me to describe it would be like sour watermelon, although much more alarming and unpleasant then that. I noticed it in food, cigarettes, air conditioning etc. Upon inhalation it seemed to have an anxiety-inducing effect, along with sensory distortions. Such as pulsating colors when I closed my eyes or loud bangs/flashes.

(This substance also seemed to be secreted through the skin of weird, monster-like extra-terrestrial creatures. That would jump on top of me and terrify me in my sleep and for a short period of time in July. It was so traumatic that I can not fully remember the experience. They were large, usually black, amorphous, and would flail their bodies around rhythmically. Screaming and making weird, horrifying sounds. This unrelated commercial reminds me of them a bit, as stupid as it seems, lol. You'd have to had experienced it to see the resemblance. [link to www.youtube.com] I doubt anybody here really experienced/remembers this, unless billions of people repress it.)



It was definitely some form of a panicogen.

The second incidence being earlier this year, in January, starting on the 9th, I began to smell a strong, unnatural, disturbing metallic smell. It was perceptible in food, water, air etc. This had a different effect, I began to feel dissociated and very anxious/confused. Short-term memory loss, difficulty imagining multiple things at once (4 roads going in one direction, multiple numbers etc.) Just a general dysphoria and confusion. It's peak effects lasted about a week or two and slowly faded, along with my ability to smell it.

It was mainly noticeable in foods like salad, vegetables etc. Other people also remarked smelling it and were also very anxious/disoriented. I haven't felt the same since it first happened.

I understand you retired years ago and these might've been developed since then, but does this sound familiar to you at all?

Do you think you could recognize these chemicals.
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Anyone notice how the OP to this thread disappeared?
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the thing to really notice is that it would take hundreds of trainloads to do this, yet, far as I can tell, no mile long trains full of chemicals arrive at airports.

You cant cover the nation coast to coast from 6 miles up with 10 or 20 tonnes of powder per aircraft, it doesnt work that way, It would take many thousands of train cars full of chemicals, and I suspect that someone among the thousands that would have to be involved nearby or involved might point that out due to guilt if nothing else
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Well there has been non stop spraying of these chemicals for many years now. I'd say, tons and tons. Trains and airports....ha-ha What are you? TSA!?

Most ppl delivering the spray product or spraying, probably have been given some kind of propaganda bs, just like you are doing here.
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So how come you don't see any "chemtrails" when the humidity is low?

Just askin'.

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