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I spent 17 years developing various chemicals for Chemtrails - ask me almost anything.

 
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What can I do to protect myself from these chemicals?
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Cry like a stupid bitch on conspiracy forums.
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Where's The Guy and Snakey on this one?


lala
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Yeah, where is that snakeairline asshole?
I love reading his gibberish!
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And he loves reading yours....
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What is/are their purpose(s)?
How toxic are they?
Do they breakdown or accumulate?
Thanks
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Purpose(s): Too many to count on ten fingers. It really depends on where they are going to be used. Many are calming agents. Others induce a state of haziness. Rarely, we were asked to develop mixtures to incite anger/rash behavior. 90% of what we worked on aimed to alter emotions/mood/state of mind.

Toxicity: In almost all cases, it was made very clear to us that what we were working on should have minimal toxicity. Naturally, a small percent of the population will have allergic tendencies to a chemical compound. But in some cases we even went as far as animal testing to ensure that the chemicals we were working on were relatively non-toxic. I never worked on a project where the intended result was toxic/fatal.

Breakdown/Accumulate: Varies a lot based on the chemical structure. Some of the mixtures we developed were intended to dissipate to concentrations as low as one part per billion by the time they reached ground level. Others were specifically designed to reach ground level and last for up to a year. Even after rain/wind/snow, etc.
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I so look forward to the final destruction of monsters like you.

Even if you are full of shit about being an insider, even the evil that it takes to pretend, and to make up things about this very serious subject, will be enough to land your kind in the Lake of Fire. Which is wayyy too good for you.
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+1
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bumphf Come back OP!
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I love how you idiots actually BELIEVE the OP...
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I love how you idiots actually BELIEVE the OP...
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He is more believable the you are nerdble.
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Come back, OP - I'm interested in what you're saying!
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And my question is - if you were looking for "calming" were there studies that you saw that proved or disproved your work in the lab was working?
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Hi OP thanks for opening up and answering all these questions. No fear. Always love.

Do you think that perhaps there's a more secret, more subtle level of covert research that caters to even more reckless interests?
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OP please do come back. I sure would like your opinion about the rise in suicides, is there something in the chemtrail concoction that may be a contributive factor?
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What can I do to protect myself from these chemicals?
 Quoting: seasidedaisy


Cry like a stupid bitch on conspiracy forums.
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Well it obvious that you have been inhaling the hate, torment, insensitivity chemtrails...Are you in Iran, Iraq. or Afghanistan?? maybe UK...

I love how you idiots actually BELIEVE the OP...
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We'll take the LOVE no matter how we get it...hf
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Question: If you could go back in time and do it all over again would you?

Last Edited by Rybo on 01/07/2012 12:28 PM
And I looked, and, behold, a whirlwind came out of the north, a great cloud, and a fire infolding itself, and a brightness was about it, and out of the midst thereof as the colour of amber, out of the midst of the fire. ~

Ezekial 1:4
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What can I do to protect myself from these chemicals?
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Cry like a stupid bitch on conspiracy forums.
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Who's crying? I asked a valid question.

Oh ... I'm only a bitch because you're a prick.
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Your so full of Shit man, you worked on making these chemicals but you dont know whats in them?? load of bullshit.
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He does. He doesn't want to go into it because perhaps it would narrow down a field of possible people who are making this thread.

His IP is already there, how many other people in his area worked on Chemtrails plus specific chemical combination you ask for.

Read his jargon, it seems pretty legit.
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I’m curious as to what motivated you to discuss Chemtrails?
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I guess I've been needing to get it off my chest for some time. I can't talk about it with family and friends - they think I am making some sort of "mad scientist" joke and laugh it off. None of them have ever taken me seriously when I try to explain the details of my career. I was just a research chemist as far as they are concerned.
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I'll be back later on tonight for a dialogue if you are interested. Your sophistication of biochemical language convinces me that you are genuine.
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Any DNA manipulation?
This video shows a very interesting presentation that there are large traces of human red blood cells, something engineered to withstand the harshest conditions which is connected to morgellons.
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Hey all,

I'm back. The number of replies since last night is astounding. I'll have to leave in half an hour or so to eat dinner, but I've got some responses ready to questions that were asked during my absence that I'll post over the next ten minutes or so. I'll also try to hit a few more before dinner, and some after.
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Please elaborate. Brain chemistry interests me.
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I'll try to summarize the project without getting too specific. We were looking at a specific family of G protein-coupled receptors only found in brain tissue. The headway we made was developing an inhibitor for a specific receptor in this family. This specific receptor is involved in creation and storage of new memories. By developing a compound that bound to the receptor and blocked the binding of the naturally created compound, we achieved mediocre success in the inhibition of creation and storage of new memories. But test mortality rates were too high, and the project was abandoned. One of the more interesting ones we ever got to work on, though.
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I'll play along for a minute, but I have some serious doubts.


I am wondering where these test subjects came from - where were they picked up or recruited from? What kind of compensation did they receive, if any, for participating?

And lastly, you attempt to rationalize and distance yourself from this situation by stating that the poisons you created should have been applied as you intended during your research, and I suppose in some twisted way that makes sense, because how else could you have lived with yourself during that time? - but then here you are, admitting that test subjects (people!) died during the research trials! I don't understand how you could have rationalized those facts away at the time and continued to work on research like you describe.
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Never in my 17 years did we ever test compounds on humans. It was always rats, and in some cases where those tests proved inconclusive; pigs. If we had been testing compounds on humans, I would've quit the first day. That being said, I obviously was aware that these compounds would be used on humans, hopefully as directed. But we tested and developed them using lab rats, not humans.
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Can't tell you the name of my employers. Nor can I tell you the exact chemical compositions of the mixtures I helped developed. I can answer almost everything else.
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OP, can you come back, I find this interesting. Have a serious question.
Do chemtrails have anything to do with the increase of suicides?
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No clue. I absolutely hope not. When testing on animals such as rats, it's tough to gauge if they become suicidal. It's a decidedly human state of mind. But we did keep hormones and pathways related to suicide in mind when developing chemicals. We never did any work involving these hormones or pathways.
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Thanks for coming back OP hf
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Hi OP thanks for opening up and answering all these questions. No fear. Always love.

Do you think that perhaps there's a more secret, more subtle level of covert research that caters to even more reckless interests?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7336714


I hope not. The idea that there might be people out there contracting work from other labs with more "reckless interests" in mind gives me chills.
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OP, do you have any idea if the gel-like material that sparkled in sunlight then disappeared was a malformation of chemtrail batter, trial like error maybe?
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And my question is - if you were looking for "calming" were there studies that you saw that proved or disproved your work in the lab was working?
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If there were other labs doing research on chemtrail compounds (and I'm almost sure there were/are), they weren't publishing their work. Neither did we. So that was one downside - I couldn't read papers about exciting progresses in my field. I just had to keep up with major chemistry journals. As far as chemicals related to "calming", yes, I can say that the ones we developed were proven to work on rats, and in one case, pigs.
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Any DNA manipulation?
This video shows a very interesting presentation that there are large traces of human red blood cells, something engineered to withstand the harshest conditions which is connected to morgellons.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1463944


Never in a permanent sense. I can remember a project that involved temporary blocking of certain transcription factors, but I never worked on anything that sought to manipulate DNA in a permanent sense. I've seen a couple people ask about red blood cells, and whether they were ever part of mixtures? The answer is no, not as part of anything I ever worked on. Not sure why someone would want to spray blood cells; they would only be able to enter your bloodstream through an open wound, and would almost certainly be immediately attacked by the body's immune system.
Also, I've seen a few people mention Morgellons disease. I literally know nothing about it; I've only heard of it in the past few years. I'll have to read a bit about it.
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OP, do you have any idea if the gel-like material that sparkled in sunlight then disappeared was a malformation of chemtrail batter, trial like error maybe?
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It sounds like you are referring to a specific event? Do you have a link/pictures? Sounds interesting but I've never heard of anything like it.
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Well I see Noble Woble Pumpkin Pie has shown himself but still no Snakey Wakey Airliney! One of my favorite shills is here but where is the other? No worries... They always come back...

OP, of course I can't with all certainty say that I believe what you are stating here but I can respond in all honesty letting you know that I believe that Chemtrails are REAL. I have found this thread most interesting and do hope to see you return to handle some more questions.

On a side note I understand why you did what you did. It was your living and you had to do what you had to do to make ends meet and in a field that you were trained for and fascinated with. You may not have liked it but you did what you had to do and your intentions were in no way, shape, or form considered sinister, even if your employers were.

I work for a company that builds things that morally I am opposed to. I like yourself can't get into details but we will build anything so long as we are paid the right dollar amount to do so. Retina Scanners, Your Airport Naked Body Scanners, you name it. Perhaps not as sinister as the chemical agents you were employed to produce, there are still things about my line of work that I am not "proud" of. But it is a good job and keeps food on the table for my family along with preparing a better future for them as well.

That being said there have been many people who have been employed to build sinister devices over the years. You are not alone. How do you think the men building all of our military's bombs feel? What about weapons manufacturers? Guns are capable to be used for killing and I am sure a weapons manufacturer does not feel guilty about earning an honest dollar.

My point is you are not alone. Even if our stories are different they are in some regards similar. We do what we have to do sometimes and there is no shame in using our talents to the best of our abilities to do better for ourselves and our families. Of course I am sorry there are naked body scanners in airports and we will start to see retina scanners popping up in more and more government buildings and urban areas. But if we didn't build them someone else would.

Question: If you could go back in time and do it all over again would you?
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Hell of a question. Would I do it all again... No. For a scientist, nothing feels better than being on the cutting edge of research in a particular field. And the money was amazing. But when I think of what else I could have done with my degree, whether my talent was "wasted", for lack of a better word... No - I wouldn't do it agian.
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OP, do you have any idea if the gel-like material that sparkled in sunlight then disappeared was a malformation of chemtrail batter, trial like error maybe?
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It sounds like you are referring to a specific event? Do you have a link/pictures? Sounds interesting but I've never heard of anything like it.
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I'll try to find the links. I've seen them several times myself. So have others I've read.

Are chemtrails going to cease eventually?
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Can you tell me in great detail how to extract ergotamine tartrate from caffeine pills?
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What can I do to protect myself from these chemicals?
 Quoting: seasidedaisy


I think I mentioned somewhere before that a mask that traps particles 0.1μm and smaller would help. That was a typo. I meant to say nanometers rather than μm. Some of these compounds were very small, and could really only be effectively blocked by a full face respirator (half-mask air-purifying respirators will not cut it, as they leave the eyes open). If I had to guess at other methods of avoiding these chemicals, I would say avoid living anywhere near moderate or large sized cities. This is just me hypothesizing, but I don't know why someone would spend millions of dollars developing chemical compounds so they could spray them over nearly unpopulated areas.

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