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I spent 17 years developing various chemicals for Chemtrails - ask me almost anything.

 
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Dinner time. I'll try to answer any questions that are posted when I get back. Great questions so far tonight, it's really nice to see there is some genuine interest.
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cool thread.

what is the one thing that they wanted most, but you and your team were unable to accomplish?

do any of the compounds you worked on have synergistic effects when combined with prescription pills, or other additives in water/food?
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i just want to thank you from the bottom of my heart! You are taking a big risk to answer questions that so many have had for a very lomg time, not to mention to verify that people that have been seeing and talking about chemtrails arn't crazy. . . Thanks again!

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what are the nano sized particles that reflect differnt colors when a certain camera flash is used ?

for example on clothing, skin after being near rivers?
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a test question to prove whether you are full of shit or not:

not all are chemtrails and not all are contrails

what else are they?
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What? Not every contrail is a chemtrail. Some contrails are natural contrails facilitated by certain atmospheric conditions. Some contrails are actually chemtrails. I don't see where you find problem with this logic.
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My son is a Mathematics Major at a Canadian University and a few weeks ago he was approached by CSIS (Cdn equivalent of CIA/NSA) via email to apply there for summer employment as a student.

He told them that he was interested and then informed me that he and all relatives and friends would be vetted. I checked into this and was surprised that they extend an invitation to all kids of high intelligence to apply.

My son the spook. Should be interesting.
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little bit of this (op), little bit of that (apollo) - what i believe based on my own intuition

if a calming agent is being sprayed on the population, it certaintly seems to be working!

i'm not so sure humans have always been this docile, though it is in our nature.
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little bit of this (op), little bit of that (apollo) - what i believe based on my own intuition

if a calming agent is being sprayed on the population, it certaintly seems to be working!

i'm not so sure humans have always been this docile, though it is in our nature.
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Maybe, but the truth of the docile ness is the easy access to pornography 24/7. And also television. Television puts you in that brain wave state.

Then the plastics are phyto estrogens and in a man, all the plastic in our food and water lowers our testosterone, more and more of us are growing man boobs, lol. and becoming more lazy,
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In your opinion what is the overall agenda driving chemtrails?
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Control. Whether it's over people, the weather, the environment - it all boils down to control. It's human nature to want to be in control.
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Then you know he's telling the truth.

Everything, every secret the military industrial complex holds, is always related to control.
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In your opinion what is the overall agenda driving chemtrails?
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Control. Whether it's over people, the weather, the environment - it all boils down to control. It's human nature to want to be in control.

Then you know he's telling the truth.

Everything, every secret the military industrial complex holds, is always related to control.

Control, cause of why? that alone does not give reason enough

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Did you know that our American Government comes from a Religious/occult agenda? Has anyone studied the esoteric and masonic state seals?

Did you know that they are prepping to preserve the lives of millions of people but not more than this cause its not physically possible considering whats about to happen?
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Heres the truth, I have friends in Government and NASA and the Military

They are trying to thicken our atmosphere, its dangerously thinning, Any more loss of atmosphere would rapidly make earth into venus or mars .

Have you noticed it more windy lately where you live? its from the thinning of the atmosphere, Increase that times a hundred and thats where were headed.

Animals are now getting skin cancer, the UV rays are beating down on us more and more, People are noticing the sun as white light rather than golden and the sun searing their skin like a laser during summer more than ever before.

Leaves and trees are getting confused with the onslaught of more light, they are not shedding leaves in time for Autumn. Have you noticed this where you live?

Our icebergs and arctic are melting at alarming rates and will flood the coastal cities, You can look up a official map drawn up by the Navy to confirm what Im saying.
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Occam's razor!
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Heres the truth, I have friends in Government and NASA and the Military

They are trying to thicken our atmosphere, its dangerously thinning, Any more loss of atmosphere would rapidly make earth into venus or mars .

Have you noticed it more windy lately where you live? its from the thinning of the atmosphere, Increase that times a hundred and thats where were headed.

Animals are now getting skin cancer, the UV rays are beating down on us more and more, People are noticing the sun as white light rather than golden and the sun searing their skin like a laser during summer more than ever before.

Leaves and trees are getting confused with the onslaught of more light, they are not shedding leaves in time for Autumn. Have you noticed this where you live?

Our icebergs and arctic are melting at alarming rates and will flood the coastal cities, You can look up a official map drawn up by the Navy to confirm what Im saying.
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Occam's razor!
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lex parsimoniae, the simplest explanation will be the most plausible

Awesome compliment friend ! thank you !

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little bit of this (op), little bit of that (apollo) - what i believe based on my own intuition

if a calming agent is being sprayed on the population, it certaintly seems to be working!

i'm not so sure humans have always been this docile, though it is in our nature.
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Okay...

Let's assume that KMnO4 were brought into line by reaction with As2O3. As2O3 + MnO4(-) +H+ +H2O yields H3AsO4 + Mn(2+) NOT BALANCED
If a .1262g sample that is 97.72% As2O3 by mass had been used in the titration, how many milliliters of the .02140M KMnO4 would have been required?
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Your either :
A. Trying to impress op
B. Trying to stump and discredit op
C. Showing off

Answer: D. all of the above
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If this jibberish is really a formula then I think he's just seeing if OP is legitimate or not.
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Check this WWII footage

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Are you sorry for the part you played in this?
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OP, refresh my memory, why are we being sprayed with these chemtrails? Is it to block Nibiru? Or just to make people more stupid?
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Can't tell you the name of my employers. Nor can I tell you the exact chemical compositions of the mixtures I helped developed. I can answer almost everything else.
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OP, can you come back, I find this interesting. Have a serious question.
Do chemtrails have anything to do with the increase of suicides?
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No clue. I absolutely hope not. When testing on animals such as rats, it's tough to gauge if they become suicidal. It's a decidedly human state of mind. But we did keep hormones and pathways related to suicide in mind when developing chemicals. We never did any work involving these hormones or pathways.
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To determine the effects would require human subjects since biochemical properites in rats don't translate to humans. However, legally this cannot be done without approval from the FDA, although H1N1 vaccines, which violated the FDA standards as proved in Gary Null et al, v. U.S. Food and Drug Administration, et al Case 1:09-cv-01924-RBW, eventually become legal without standardized testing. Therefore, my question is this: what statistical analysis does it provide to manipulate the G protein in rat brains in determining human outcomes in short-term memory deficits and learning potentials and retention? By the way, I'm glad you are back on board.
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Back from dinner. I'll look back for any questions I missed.
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In your opinion what is the overall agenda driving chemtrails?
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Control. Whether it's over people, the weather, the environment - it all boils down to control. It's human nature to want to be in control.

Then you know he's telling the truth.

Everything, every secret the military industrial complex holds, is always related to control.

Control, cause of why? that alone does not give reason enough

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6323246



Did you know that our American Government comes from a Religious/occult agenda? Has anyone studied the esoteric and masonic state seals?

Did you know that they are prepping to preserve the lives of millions of people but not more than this cause its not physically possible considering whats about to happen?
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He said his company wasn't the only one contracted for use of chemtrails. Don't you think maybe he is for real and it could be something your not familiar with?

Just wondering because he sounds like the real thing to me.

Also, not to go off topic but. . .Whats about to happen? I've been searching the net on info about 2012 since about 1995 and I am still undecided with all the disinfo out there it has me nothing but confused.

Please answer and thanks if you do.
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Dinner time. I'll try to answer any questions that are posted when I get back. Great questions so far tonight, it's really nice to see there is some genuine interest.
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cool thread.

what is the one thing that they wanted most, but you and your team were unable to accomplish?

do any of the compounds you worked on have synergistic effects when combined with prescription pills, or other additives in water/food?
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As far as something a contractor wanted most but we were unable to accomplish without fatal side effects was the short term memory loss project. Made some headway, but was never safe for use. Project scrapped.

It's possible that some things we created interact with prescription/over the counter drugs. When testing compounds, we checked for side effects with most major over the counter and prescription drugs (acetaminophen, ibuprofen, etc.). But there was no possible way for us to test interactions with every drug on the market.
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Mhm, this must be true.
It's someone from the internet.
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And sorry OP I'm not trying to disrespect you and won't go off topic again.

BTW I have the gut feeling your the real thing and this thread is incredibly interesting. . . I put it in my favorites and gave it a 5 star.
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what are the nano sized particles that reflect differnt colors when a certain camera flash is used ?

for example on clothing, skin after being near rivers?
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I'm not really sure what you're referring to. Skin after being near rivers sounds like water - water can refract the entire spectrum of colors. If they really are nano sized, they wouldn't be showing up in a standard quality camera picture.
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What can I do to protect myself from these chemicals?
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I think I mentioned somewhere before that a mask that traps particles 0.1μm and smaller would help. That was a typo. I meant to say nanometers rather than μm. Some of these compounds were very small, and could really only be effectively blocked by a full face respirator (half-mask air-purifying respirators will not cut it, as they leave the eyes open). If I had to guess at other methods of avoiding these chemicals, I would say avoid living anywhere near moderate or large sized cities. This is just me hypothesizing, but I don't know why someone would spend millions of dollars developing chemical compounds so they could spray them over nearly unpopulated areas.
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Used as a biochemical agent it would also make sense in areas of large populations. You indicated the goal was to manipulate certain behaviors. In your opinion, does this tie in with the NWO agenda?
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What can I do to protect myself from these chemicals?
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I think I mentioned somewhere before that a mask that traps particles µm and smaller would help. That was a typo. I meant to say nanometers rather than µm. Some of these compounds were very small, and could really only be effectively blocked by a full face respirator (half-mask air-purifying respirators will not cut it, as they leave the eyes open). If I had to guess at other methods of avoiding these chemicals, I would say avoid living anywhere near moderate or large sized cities. This is just me hypothesizing, but I don't know why someone would spend millions of dollars developing chemical compounds so they could spray them over nearly unpopulated areas.
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GLP didn't seem to like how I used the µ character for 'micro'. Weird.
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Certain words appear to be tagged and monitored.
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Okay...

Let's assume that KMnO4 were brought into line by reaction with As2O3. As2O3 + MnO4(-) +H+ +H2O yields H3AsO4 + Mn(2+) NOT BALANCED
If a .1262g sample that is 97.72% As2O3 by mass had been used in the titration, how many milliliters of the .02140M KMnO4 would have been required?
 Quoting: Kinect

Your either :
A. Trying to impress op
B. Trying to stump and discredit op
C. Showing off

Answer: D. all of the above
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If this jibberish is really a formula then I think he's just seeing if OP is legitimate or not.
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No, it's a legit chemistry equation. Something that would have been on a test during undergrad. Unfortunately chemistry is one of those skills that atrophies when you don't keep it exercised. It's embarrassing, but being retired for over a decade I would need to consult a textbook to answer it. Basic knowledge is something you retain; specific formulas and reaction methods, not so much.
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Are you sorry for the part you played in this?
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Answered earlier in the thread. Yes, in retrospect, I regret what I did for a living. But I've learned to come to terms with it.
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OP, refresh my memory, why are we being sprayed with these chemtrails? Is it to block Nibiru? Or just to make people more stupid?
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A multitude of reasons. I answered this to some extent on the first or second page.
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Control. Whether it's over people, the weather, the environment - it all boils down to control. It's human nature to want to be in control.

Then you know he's telling the truth.

Everything, every secret the military industrial complex holds, is always related to control.

Control, cause of why? that alone does not give reason enough

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6323246



Did you know that our American Government comes from a Religious/occult agenda? Has anyone studied the esoteric and masonic state seals?

Did you know that they are prepping to preserve the lives of millions of people but not more than this cause its not physically possible considering whats about to happen?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8291780


He said his company wasn't the only one contracted for use of chemtrails. Don't you think maybe he is for real and it could be something your not familiar with?

Just wondering because he sounds like the real thing to me.

Also, not to go off topic but. . .Whats about to happen? I've been searching the net on info about 2012 since about 1995 and I am still undecided with all the disinfo out there it has me nothing but confused.

Please answer and thanks if you do.
 Quoting: Apollo Illuminaughty


For one thing Id like to make clear, There never was a separation of church and state, Thats only a illusion. Someone I know very well did his job at NASA, He was the engineer for many of the satellites you see up there, Hes also a University Professor and about to retire, Anyways, after his job shift, hed come home and pray on his knees for hours , more than I ever have

Another friend in the UN goes to the Summit meetings, goes thru the motions and then afterwards goes on a meditation and mega prayer retreat when a specific alignment promised a powerful gateway and window of prophecy.

You wont believe how many people In Government and NASA are very, very, very religious, And they are specifically , 100 percent , throwing all they have into prophecy.

You might now see where Im getting too, But youll see soon enough by watching the world events and news, I was forewarned ahead of time. I know the next 50 years.

They want you to think they are all science and no faith. Dry politics with no spirituality but thats not the truth, They are the most religious people I know, If I gave names youd recognize them, I was invited to all the sacred sites, they are my friends.
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To determine the effects would require human subjects since biochemical properites in rats don't translate to humans. However, legally this cannot be done without approval from the FDA, although H1N1 vaccines, which violated the FDA standards as proved in Gary Null et al, v. U.S. Food and Drug Administration, et al Case 1:09-cv-01924-RBW, eventually become legal without standardized testing. Therefore, my question is this: what statistical analysis does it provide to manipulate the G protein in rat brains in determining human outcomes in short-term memory deficits and learning potentials and retention? By the way, I'm glad you are back on board.
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For this project we were discussing earlier, when it became clear that the chemicals being developed were eventually fatal to nearly all the test animals, despite numerous tweaks and alterations to the compounds, the project was scrapped. It never even progressed to swine testing.
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He said his company wasn't the only one contracted for use of chemtrails. Don't you think maybe he is for real and it could be something your not familiar with?

Just wondering because he sounds like the real thing to me.

Also, not to go off topic but. . .Whats about to happen? I've been searching the net on info about 2012 since about 1995 and I am still undecided with all the disinfo out there it has me nothing but confused.

Please answer and thanks if you do.
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Sorry, Mayan mythology isn't really my specialty. I wouldn't want to speculate on something I know nothing about.

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