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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5114133 United States 01/04/2012 01:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Chemtrails have a patent which involves the sun. I have read the patent. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5114133 Not sure which patent you are referring to. Our mixtures were never patented. Mainly because patents are public information. But patents can still be kept private; our mixtures were never patented for the purpose of plausible deniability and lack of a paper trail. Keep in mind that nearly everything we were contracted to do was not legal by nearly any sense of the word. I can, however, remember one project that was designed to work differently based on sunlight levels - it was a weather modification project. There is a patent on chemtrails for weather modification. You sound highly educated. I'm becoming interested in what you have to say. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 6323246 United States 01/04/2012 01:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Would you be willing to tell us the years (dates)you were actively involved? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4062871 And/or how long have we been getting sprayed in secret? I'd rather give a range than exact years - early 80s to early 2000's. Not sure when spraying started exactly, but judging from the scientific papers we based our some of our research on, it didn't take long after the dawn of modern chemistry for people to learn that chemicals can be used for nefarious purposes as well as good ones. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5114133 United States 01/04/2012 01:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The elderly, very young, and immunocompromised would suffer ill effects, including possible death. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5114133 Like I said before, a lot of care was taken to ensure non-toxicity of almost all of our mixtures. We didn't just achieve this with healthy, middle aged people in mind. As far as immuno-compromised individuals, well, that's a pretty broad term. There are hundreds if not thousands of different immuno-compromising diseases and conditions. Most of these leave the person overly susceptible to bacteria and viruses, not chemicals. But as I said before, it was inevitable that there would be a marginal number of ill effects to what we developed. Alternations in biofunctioning can lead to the susceptibility of disease from bacteria, virus, fungal...barium reduces Vit C levels, which in turn compromises the immune system, especially in those already compromised. The levels discovered on the ground were higher than what would be considered marginal. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 6323246 United States 01/04/2012 01:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Chemtrails have a patent which involves the sun. I have read the patent. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5114133 Not sure which patent you are referring to. Our mixtures were never patented. Mainly because patents are public information. But patents can still be kept private; our mixtures were never patented for the purpose of plausible deniability and lack of a paper trail. Keep in mind that nearly everything we were contracted to do was not legal by nearly any sense of the word. I can, however, remember one project that was designed to work differently based on sunlight levels - it was a weather modification project. There is a patent on chemtrails for weather modification. You sound highly educated. I'm becoming interested in what you have to say. I'd be interested to know the patent number you are referring to - it certainly wasn't filed for by my employer. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8222648 United States 01/04/2012 01:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can't tell you the name of my employers. Nor can I tell you the exact chemical compositions of the mixtures I helped developed. I can answer almost everything else. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6323246 How does it feel to know that you've poisoned millions of men, women and children, including your own friends and family? How does it feel to know that you will be utterly cut off from the kingdom of God, and cast into outer darkness, after you stand before Him at the Great White Throne judgment? Read Revelation 11:18 for some insight to the near future. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 6323246 United States 01/04/2012 01:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The elderly, very young, and immunocompromised would suffer ill effects, including possible death. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5114133 Like I said before, a lot of care was taken to ensure non-toxicity of almost all of our mixtures. We didn't just achieve this with healthy, middle aged people in mind. As far as immuno-compromised individuals, well, that's a pretty broad term. There are hundreds if not thousands of different immuno-compromising diseases and conditions. Most of these leave the person overly susceptible to bacteria and viruses, not chemicals. But as I said before, it was inevitable that there would be a marginal number of ill effects to what we developed. Alternations in biofunctioning can lead to the susceptibility of disease from bacteria, virus, fungal...barium reduces Vit C levels, which in turn compromises the immune system, especially in those already compromised. The levels discovered on the ground were higher than what would be considered marginal. What levels on the ground are you referring to? If it's true, then it was either a mixture developed by another research group (the one I worked with was definitely not the only one), or something went wrong with the deployment of our mixture (i.e. it was deployed under atmospheric conditions in which we specifically advised our contractors not to use them in). |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 6323246 United States 01/04/2012 01:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is/are their purpose(s)? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 802683 How toxic are they? Do they breakdown or accumulate? Thanks I just love how casually people interact with mass murderers. I'm sorry, but I resent that - you clearly haven't read any of my responses. 99% of the time, non-toxicity was top priority. I can say with complete confidence that even our most dangerous mixtures never had more than a 1 in 50,000 mortality rate, assuming they were deployed as advised. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8222648 United States 01/04/2012 01:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is/are their purpose(s)? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 802683 How toxic are they? Do they breakdown or accumulate? Thanks Purpose(s): Too many to count on ten fingers. It really depends on where they are going to be used. Many are calming agents. Others induce a state of haziness. Rarely, we were asked to develop mixtures to incite anger/rash behavior. 90% of what we worked on aimed to alter emotions/mood/state of mind. Toxicity: In almost all cases, it was made very clear to us that what we were working on should have minimal toxicity. Naturally, a small percent of the population will have allergic tendencies to a chemical compound. But in some cases we even went as far as animal testing to ensure that the chemicals we were working on were relatively non-toxic. I never worked on a project where the intended result was toxic/fatal. Breakdown/Accumulate: Varies a lot based on the chemical structure. Some of the mixtures we developed were intended to dissipate to concentrations as low as one part per billion by the time they reached ground level. Others were specifically designed to reach ground level and last for up to a year. Even after rain/wind/snow, etc. I so look forward to the final destruction of monsters like you. Even if you are full of shit about being an insider, even the evil that it takes to pretend, and to make up things about this very serious subject, will be enough to land your kind in the Lake of Fire. Which is wayyy too good for you. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 8222648 United States 01/04/2012 01:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is/are their purpose(s)? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 802683 How toxic are they? Do they breakdown or accumulate? Thanks I just love how casually people interact with mass murderers. I'm sorry, but I resent that - you clearly haven't read any of my responses. 99% of the time, non-toxicity was top priority. I can say with complete confidence that even our most dangerous mixtures never had more than a 1 in 50,000 mortality rate, assuming they were deployed as advised. You killed my father, and who knows HOW many more. You are one doomed motherfucker, come judgment day pal. Nobody with a triple digit IQ is buying your "noble" act. You are just another fucking Eugenicist, practicing population reduction. See if God buys your pretentious bullshit. I don't give a hoot WHAT you "resent", you lying sack of dung. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4062871 United States 01/04/2012 01:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Would you be willing to tell us the years (dates)you were actively involved? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4062871 And/or how long have we been getting sprayed in secret? I'd rather give a range than exact years - early 80s to early 2000's. Not sure when spraying started exactly, but judging from the scientific papers we based our some of our research on, it didn't take long after the dawn of modern chemistry for people to learn that chemicals can be used for nefarious purposes as well as good ones. Are you still in contact with any old coworkers who are still involved? if so are there any updates or current info you would like to share? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5114133 United States 01/04/2012 01:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Chemtrails have a patent which involves the sun. I have read the patent. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5114133 Not sure which patent you are referring to. Our mixtures were never patented. Mainly because patents are public information. But patents can still be kept private; our mixtures were never patented for the purpose of plausible deniability and lack of a paper trail. Keep in mind that nearly everything we were contracted to do was not legal by nearly any sense of the word. I can, however, remember one project that was designed to work differently based on sunlight levels - it was a weather modification project. There is a patent on chemtrails for weather modification. You sound highly educated. I'm becoming interested in what you have to say. I'd be interested to know the patent number you are referring to - it certainly wasn't filed for by my employer. As you already indicated, patents are in the public arena. I read an actual patent pertaining to this, but as you indicated patents are public so just Google "chemtrail weather modification patents" and you will find patent numbers. Your language is that of a PhD Chemists. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4442233 United States 01/04/2012 01:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is/are their purpose(s)? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 802683 How toxic are they? Do they breakdown or accumulate? Thanks I just love how casually people interact with mass murderers. I'm sorry, but I resent that - you clearly haven't read any of my responses. 99% of the time, non-toxicity was top priority. I can say with complete confidence that even our most dangerous mixtures never had more than a 1 in 50,000 mortality rate, assuming they were deployed as advised. You killed my father, and who knows HOW many more. You are one doomed motherfucker, come judgment day pal. Nobody with a triple digit IQ is buying your "noble" act. You are just another fucking Eugenicist, practicing population reduction. See if God buys your pretentious bullshit. I don't give a hoot WHAT you "resent", you lying sack of dung. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 6323246 United States 01/04/2012 01:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Would you be willing to tell us the years (dates)you were actively involved? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4062871 And/or how long have we been getting sprayed in secret? I'd rather give a range than exact years - early 80s to early 2000's. Not sure when spraying started exactly, but judging from the scientific papers we based our some of our research on, it didn't take long after the dawn of modern chemistry for people to learn that chemicals can be used for nefarious purposes as well as good ones. Are you still in contact with any old coworkers who are still involved? if so are there any updates or current info you would like to share? There was an odd generation gap in the research group I worked with. I.e. by the time I left, everyone at our lab fell into two groups - 55 years and older, or less than 5-10 years out of college. I actually felt like they did this on purpose, to minimize the chance that we would keep in contact with anyone "still in the business" after retiring. Besides the mountains of non-disclosure agreements I was forced to sign. But no, I don't keep in contact with anyone still conducting research. In fact I only keep in touch with one former lab mate, who resigned two years after me. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5114133 United States 01/04/2012 01:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The elderly, very young, and immunocompromised would suffer ill effects, including possible death. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5114133 Like I said before, a lot of care was taken to ensure non-toxicity of almost all of our mixtures. We didn't just achieve this with healthy, middle aged people in mind. As far as immuno-compromised individuals, well, that's a pretty broad term. There are hundreds if not thousands of different immuno-compromising diseases and conditions. Most of these leave the person overly susceptible to bacteria and viruses, not chemicals. But as I said before, it was inevitable that there would be a marginal number of ill effects to what we developed. Alternations in biofunctioning can lead to the susceptibility of disease from bacteria, virus, fungal...barium reduces Vit C levels, which in turn compromises the immune system, especially in those already compromised. The levels discovered on the ground were higher than what would be considered marginal. What levels on the ground are you referring to? If it's true, then it was either a mixture developed by another research group (the one I worked with was definitely not the only one), or something went wrong with the deployment of our mixture (i.e. it was deployed under atmospheric conditions in which we specifically advised our contractors not to use them in). Were these chemicals delivered through inhalation, absorption, ingestion? What was the route of delivery to achieve the desired goal? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4062871 United States 01/04/2012 01:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is/are their purpose(s)? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 802683 How toxic are they? Do they breakdown or accumulate? Thanks I just love how casually people interact with mass murderers. I'm sorry, but I resent that - you clearly haven't read any of my responses. 99% of the time, non-toxicity was top priority. I can say with complete confidence that even our most dangerous mixtures never had more than a 1 in 50,000 mortality rate, assuming they were deployed as advised. You killed my father, and who knows HOW many more. You are one doomed motherfucker, come judgment day pal. Nobody with a triple digit IQ is buying your "noble" act. You are just another fucking Eugenicist, practicing population reduction. See if God buys your pretentious bullshit. I don't give a hoot WHAT you "resent", you lying sack of dung. Do you realize that if he's for real this could be one of the most important whistleblower testimonies we have on the subject? Try to act adult and let the guy speak before you condemn. |
Writemeaticket Red User ID: 6120896 United States 01/04/2012 01:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, not that I'm judging, but you know that your karma (the real thing, not the BS on the forum) is completely screwed, right? Or you'll be turned away at the Pearly Gates, or whatever you believe in. On this bitch since 2004. 7th Gen Texan - Come and take it! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5114133 United States 01/04/2012 01:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6323246 Like I said before, a lot of care was taken to ensure non-toxicity of almost all of our mixtures. We didn't just achieve this with healthy, middle aged people in mind. As far as immuno-compromised individuals, well, that's a pretty broad term. There are hundreds if not thousands of different immuno-compromising diseases and conditions. Most of these leave the person overly susceptible to bacteria and viruses, not chemicals. But as I said before, it was inevitable that there would be a marginal number of ill effects to what we developed. Alternations in biofunctioning can lead to the susceptibility of disease from bacteria, virus, fungal...barium reduces Vit C levels, which in turn compromises the immune system, especially in those already compromised. The levels discovered on the ground were higher than what would be considered marginal. What levels on the ground are you referring to? If it's true, then it was either a mixture developed by another research group (the one I worked with was definitely not the only one), or something went wrong with the deployment of our mixture (i.e. it was deployed under atmospheric conditions in which we specifically advised our contractors not to use them in). Were these chemicals delivered through inhalation, absorption, ingestion? What was the route of delivery to achieve the desired goal? Was this for the military? Are you Chemist? Is it a worldwide phenomenon? What is the purpose of Chemtrails? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7986585 United States 01/04/2012 01:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm sorry, but I resent that - you clearly haven't read any of my responses. 99% of the time, non-toxicity was top priority. I can say with complete confidence that even our most dangerous mixtures never had more than a 1 in 50,000 mortality rate, assuming they were deployed as advised. You killed my father, and who knows HOW many more. You are one doomed motherfucker, come judgment day pal. Nobody with a triple digit IQ is buying your "noble" act. You are just another fucking Eugenicist, practicing population reduction. See if God buys your pretentious bullshit. I don't give a hoot WHAT you "resent", you lying sack of dung. Do you realize that if he's for real this could be one of the most important whistleblower testimonies we have on the subject? Try to act adult and let the guy speak before you condemn. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 6323246 United States 01/04/2012 01:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As you already indicated, patents are in the public arena. I read an actual patent pertaining to this, but as you indicated patents are public so just Google "chemtrail weather modification patents" and you will find patent numbers. Your language is that of a PhD Chemists. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5114133 After searching for that, I did find results, but none on the uspto.gov website. If there are indeed US patents filed for weather modification chemicals, I wouldn't be surprised if they are some sort of distraction. I.e. the oldest magic trick in the book - watch this hand over here, don't worry about what the other hand is doing behind the back. If people are spending all their time trying to figure out what is going on with the publicly listed patents, then that is less people trying to find the real research. |
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Writemeaticket Red User ID: 6120896 United States 01/04/2012 01:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why did you choose this website of all places to reveal this knowledge? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7986585 Where else would anyone believe me? Write it all up (with proof) and send to all the newsdesks in the U.S. I bet somone would run it. On this bitch since 2004. 7th Gen Texan - Come and take it! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5114133 United States 01/04/2012 01:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As you already indicated, patents are in the public arena. I read an actual patent pertaining to this, but as you indicated patents are public so just Google "chemtrail weather modification patents" and you will find patent numbers. Your language is that of a PhD Chemists. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5114133 After searching for that, I did find results, but none on the uspto.gov website. If there are indeed US patents filed for weather modification chemicals, I wouldn't be surprised if they are some sort of distraction. I.e. the oldest magic trick in the book - watch this hand over here, don't worry about what the other hand is doing behind the back. If people are spending all their time trying to figure out what is going on with the publicly listed patents, then that is less people trying to find the real research. Diversion--it is always carried out in war and for other purposes. Your language reveals high levels of education and experience. |