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**BREAKING** 8TH GRADER SHOOT AND KILLED IN TEXAS

 
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Just FYI it was not a real gun. It was a pellet gun....fail cops fail...
 Quoting: Komi


It doesn't matter what type of gun it is. If the kid was stupid enough to point it at them, and they couldn't tell the diff, they have every legal right to shoot first.

Can you tell the difference between a real gun and a pellet gun at 20 feet?
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1546557, yes.
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01/04/2012 06:22 PM
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Very Sad.
My relationship with death hasnt changed......I am strongly against it.
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01/04/2012 06:29 PM
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you point a gun at armed police you must be suicidal or insane. they WILL take you down.
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01/04/2012 06:32 PM
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Moral of the story, don't carry a gun at school.
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Im trying to find more info on AP on this...
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Go to krgv.com (local tv station). Sorry, my computer won't do links.
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01/04/2012 06:43 PM
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Just FYI it was not a real gun. It was a pellet gun....fail cops fail...
 Quoting: Komi


+100
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01/04/2012 06:49 PM
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Wow thanks for my first pin guys!!! Also this is pretty messed up. in the video though it says the kid "engaged" the police officers. I have no idea what really happen, lets post the other links and get some cross source fact checking going.
I'm just here to post good information when I can.
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01/04/2012 06:49 PM

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Seems a little strange.. when Columbine was happening they wouldn't even go in there.. what does that mean 'banished' a gun? Was the kid shooting at them or not? Must have been a white kid if he was not this would be some sort of out rage.. they would be in the streets...demanding answers..
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01/04/2012 06:58 PM
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A crowd of cops couldn't take this desperate criminal alive.
I can hit right shoulder and thigh shots 100% of the time at 10 yards.
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A crowd of cops couldn't take this desperate criminal alive.
I can hit right shoulder and thigh shots 100% of the time at 10 yards.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4606849


Right... they had to make a kill shot?? come on people! what really happened there?
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A crowd of cops couldn't take this desperate criminal alive.
I can hit right shoulder and thigh shots 100% of the time at 10 yards.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4606849


At the range, under controlled conditions. Way to go, action hero! A bad guy shot in the thigh can still keep firing his weapon, which is why when police shoot, they shoot to definitively stop the target and that usually ends up with a fatality.

Everyone's a Monday morning quarterback in situations like this. I don't care how old the stupid kid was-- you point a gun (yes, even a pellet gun) at a cop after he tells you to drop it, you get dropped. End of story.
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i smell fuckin gun control a comin
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


I smell another Jared "Patsy" Loughner or underwear "Patsy" bomber. Anything on CNN or any of the MSM channels is being used as mind control. Your right about gun control. They create false stories that NO ONE can prove and then they say it is for our own good to remove all weapons. Propaganda everywhere on MSM

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A crowd of cops couldn't take this desperate criminal alive.
I can hit right shoulder and thigh shots 100% of the time at 10 yards.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4606849


At the range, under controlled conditions. Way to go, action hero! A bad guy shot in the thigh can still keep firing his weapon, which is why when police shoot, they shoot to definitively stop the target and that usually ends up with a fatality.

Everyone's a Monday morning quarterback in situations like this. I don't care how old the stupid kid was-- you point a gun (yes, even a pellet gun) at a cop after he tells you to drop it, you get dropped. End of story.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6665669


Sounds like the only shots fired were by the cops.. This was a kid.. and it should not be the 'end of story'... someone needs to be explaining something.
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Just FYI it was not a real gun. It was a pellet gun....fail cops fail...
 Quoting: Komi


It doesn't matter what type of gun it is. If the kid was stupid enough to point it at them, and they couldn't tell the diff, they have every legal right to shoot first.

Can you tell the difference between a real gun and a pellet gun at 20 feet?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1546557


Doesn't matter. Ask yourself: if you were a cop on the scene would YOU like to get shot in the eye and be blinded for life? Or the throat, or the femoral artery?

I understand that U.S. pellet guns have higher muzzle velocities than what we can legally buy up in Canada (500fps max without a Firearms License) too.

Up here we consider pellet (and even non-firing REPLICA guns) to be actual firearms for the purposes of criminal prosecution. You rob a bank with a cap gun where you've removed the orange tip from the barrel, it's armed robbery, pointing a firearm, assault w/a weapon, etc. Aim it at the police at your own peril, too.
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A crowd of cops couldn't take this desperate criminal alive.
I can hit right shoulder and thigh shots 100% of the time at 10 yards.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4606849


derp
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i smell fuckin gun control a comin
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


Ya! If there was a law saying you cannot bring a weapon into school, he would have obeyed it and this would not have happened.
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A crowd of cops couldn't take this desperate criminal alive.
I can hit right shoulder and thigh shots 100% of the time at 10 yards.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4606849


At the range, under controlled conditions. Way to go, action hero! A bad guy shot in the thigh can still keep firing his weapon, which is why when police shoot, they shoot to definitively stop the target and that usually ends up with a fatality.

Everyone's a Monday morning quarterback in situations like this. I don't care how old the stupid kid was-- you point a gun (yes, even a pellet gun) at a cop after he tells you to drop it, you get dropped. End of story.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6665669


Sounds like the only shots fired were by the cops.. This was a kid.. and it should not be the 'end of story'... someone needs to be explaining something.
 Quoting: ceawaves


What needs to be explained?

1. He brought a weapon that closely resembles a handgun
2. He threatened to kill everyone
3. He pointed said weapon at the officers
4. He was shot
5. He died
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Just FYI it was not a real gun. It was a pellet gun....fail cops fail...
 Quoting: Komi


It doesn't matter what type of gun it is. If the kid was stupid enough to point it at them, and they couldn't tell the diff, they have every legal right to shoot first.

Can you tell the difference between a real gun and a pellet gun at 20 feet?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1546557


Doesn't matter. Ask yourself: if you were a cop on the scene would YOU like to get shot in the eye and be blinded for life? Or the throat, or the femoral artery?

I understand that U.S. pellet guns have higher muzzle velocities than what we can legally buy up in Canada (500fps max without a Firearms License) too.

Up here we consider pellet (and even non-firing REPLICA guns) to be actual firearms for the purposes of criminal prosecution. You rob a bank with a cap gun where you've removed the orange tip from the barrel, it's armed robbery, pointing a firearm, assault w/a weapon, etc. Aim it at the police at your own peril, too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6665669


understanding you're an idiot, that's about the only thing you're being clear about.. this ain't Canada. And we don't want to be like you...this was a 15 year old CHILD...
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A crowd of cops couldn't take this desperate criminal alive.
I can hit right shoulder and thigh shots 100% of the time at 10 yards.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4606849


At the range, under controlled conditions. Way to go, action hero! A bad guy shot in the thigh can still keep firing his weapon, which is why when police shoot, they shoot to definitively stop the target and that usually ends up with a fatality.

Everyone's a Monday morning quarterback in situations like this. I don't care how old the stupid kid was-- you point a gun (yes, even a pellet gun) at a cop after he tells you to drop it, you get dropped. End of story.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6665669


Sounds like the only shots fired were by the cops.. This was a kid.. and it should not be the 'end of story'... someone needs to be explaining something.
 Quoting: ceawaves


Well, typically when the police order you to drop your gun, and instead of doing so you raise it up and point it at them it strongly suggests that you are going to fire...

There is no requirement to "wait for the bad guy to shoot first" and possibly injure or kill an officer before lethal force is allowed. That would just be retarded.
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01/04/2012 07:13 PM
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Lots of info here. Not sure if this will work:

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By Juan Montoya

Apparently upset over a recent breakup with his girlfriend, a 15-year-old Cummings Middle School student who took a rifle to school Wednesday morning was shot and killed by Brownsville Police during a confrontation in the hallway.
Police officers responded to an emergency call about 8 a.m. of an eighth grade student, previously suspended from the school, who was threatening teachers with a rifle.
[At this time, it is unclear whether the rifle was a "real" weapon or, as some sources point out, it may have been an air soft gun whose rubber pellets, at most, sting like a bee].

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A crowd of cops couldn't take this desperate criminal alive.
I can hit right shoulder and thigh shots 100% of the time at 10 yards.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4606849


At the range, under controlled conditions. Way to go, action hero! A bad guy shot in the thigh can still keep firing his weapon, which is why when police shoot, they shoot to definitively stop the target and that usually ends up with a fatality.

Everyone's a Monday morning quarterback in situations like this. I don't care how old the stupid kid was-- you point a gun (yes, even a pellet gun) at a cop after he tells you to drop it, you get dropped. End of story.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6665669


Sounds like the only shots fired were by the cops.. This was a kid.. and it should not be the 'end of story'... someone needs to be explaining something.
 Quoting: ceawaves


What needs to be explained?

1. He brought a weapon that closely resembles a handgun
2. He threatened to kill everyone
3. He pointed said weapon at the officers
4. He was shot
5. He died
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1533862


Oh well that makes it OK then.. what happened to trying to talk the killa out of it?? shame he wasn't black that would have saved his life.. something just don't sound right about it..
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Just FYI it was not a real gun. It was a pellet gun....fail cops fail...
 Quoting: Komi


It doesn't matter what type of gun it is. If the kid was stupid enough to point it at them, and they couldn't tell the diff, they have every legal right to shoot first.

Can you tell the difference between a real gun and a pellet gun at 20 feet?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1546557


Doesn't matter. Ask yourself: if you were a cop on the scene would YOU like to get shot in the eye and be blinded for life? Or the throat, or the femoral artery?

I understand that U.S. pellet guns have higher muzzle velocities than what we can legally buy up in Canada (500fps max without a Firearms License) too.

Up here we consider pellet (and even non-firing REPLICA guns) to be actual firearms for the purposes of criminal prosecution. You rob a bank with a cap gun where you've removed the orange tip from the barrel, it's armed robbery, pointing a firearm, assault w/a weapon, etc. Aim it at the police at your own peril, too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6665669


understanding you're an idiot, that's about the only thing you're being clear about.. this ain't Canada. And we don't want to be like you...this was a 15 year old CHILD...
 Quoting: ceawaves


WTF? Why is almost every reply on here a jab at the fucking poster's COUNTRY for fucks sake. I was pointing out in logical terms how this sounds like a righteous shoot. Respond to my points or fuck the hell off.

Is a dead cop's family any better of because his murderer is a CHILD? You are a retard.
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Probably an illegal with a Fast and Furious gun.

Obama's plan is still in action.


They forgot to stop the rest of the plan when they got caught red handed.
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Funniest comment I've read in awhile!
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Just FYI it was not a real gun. It was a pellet gun....fail cops fail...
 Quoting: Komi


It doesn't matter what type of gun it is. If the kid was stupid enough to point it at them, and they couldn't tell the diff, they have every legal right to shoot first.

Can you tell the difference between a real gun and a pellet gun at 20 feet?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1546557


They claimed he 'banished' it.. what does that mean?
They never said he pointed a gun at anyone.
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It doesn't matter what type of gun it is. If the kid was stupid enough to point it at them, and they couldn't tell the diff, they have every legal right to shoot first.

Can you tell the difference between a real gun and a pellet gun at 20 feet?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1546557


Doesn't matter. Ask yourself: if you were a cop on the scene would YOU like to get shot in the eye and be blinded for life? Or the throat, or the femoral artery?

I understand that U.S. pellet guns have higher muzzle velocities than what we can legally buy up in Canada (500fps max without a Firearms License) too.

Up here we consider pellet (and even non-firing REPLICA guns) to be actual firearms for the purposes of criminal prosecution. You rob a bank with a cap gun where you've removed the orange tip from the barrel, it's armed robbery, pointing a firearm, assault w/a weapon, etc. Aim it at the police at your own peril, too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6665669


understanding you're an idiot, that's about the only thing you're being clear about.. this ain't Canada. And we don't want to be like you...this was a 15 year old CHILD...
 Quoting: ceawaves


WTF? Why is almost every reply on here a jab at the fucking poster's COUNTRY for fucks sake. I was pointing out in logical terms how this sounds like a righteous shoot. Respond to my points or fuck the hell off.

Is a dead cop's family any better of because his murderer is a CHILD? You are a retard.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6665669


Dead cop?? what? there's no dead cop, you're an idiot.. No dead cop..Got it? There's only one dead kid with a pellet gun.
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Just FYI it was not a real gun. It was a pellet gun....fail cops fail...
 Quoting: Komi


It doesn't matter what type of gun it is. If the kid was stupid enough to point it at them, and they couldn't tell the diff, they have every legal right to shoot first.

Can you tell the difference between a real gun and a pellet gun at 20 feet?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1546557


They claimed he 'banished' it.. what does that mean?
They never said he pointed a gun at anyone.
 Quoting: ceawaves


The word is brandished and it means to wave or display a weapon in a menacing fashion.
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Just FYI it was not a real gun. It was a pellet gun....fail cops fail...
 Quoting: Komi


It doesn't matter what type of gun it is. If the kid was stupid enough to point it at them, and they couldn't tell the diff, they have every legal right to shoot first.

Can you tell the difference between a real gun and a pellet gun at 20 feet?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1546557


They claimed he 'banished' it.. what does that mean?
They never said he pointed a gun at anyone.
 Quoting: ceawaves


The word is brandished and it means to wave or display a weapon in a menacing fashion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6665669


So there was NO POINTING of the gun at any one target.. someone should lose their job over this, at the very least..
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Doesn't matter. Ask yourself: if you were a cop on the scene would YOU like to get shot in the eye and be blinded for life? Or the throat, or the femoral artery?

I understand that U.S. pellet guns have higher muzzle velocities than what we can legally buy up in Canada (500fps max without a Firearms License) too.

Up here we consider pellet (and even non-firing REPLICA guns) to be actual firearms for the purposes of criminal prosecution. You rob a bank with a cap gun where you've removed the orange tip from the barrel, it's armed robbery, pointing a firearm, assault w/a weapon, etc. Aim it at the police at your own peril, too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6665669


understanding you're an idiot, that's about the only thing you're being clear about.. this ain't Canada. And we don't want to be like you...this was a 15 year old CHILD...
 Quoting: ceawaves


WTF? Why is almost every reply on here a jab at the fucking poster's COUNTRY for fucks sake. I was pointing out in logical terms how this sounds like a righteous shoot. Respond to my points or fuck the hell off.

Is a dead cop's family any better of because his murderer is a CHILD? You are a retard.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6665669


Dead cop?? what? there's no dead cop, you're an idiot.. No dead cop..Got it? There's only one dead kid with a pellet gun.
 Quoting: ceawaves


you americans are fucking studid.


the sooner gun control is implimented in your fucked up society the better.
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"Supposedly the kid was upset cause administration had suspended his girlfriend and had air soft gun (bb/pellet gun) in his pocket..." according to sources with Cheezmeh, the social group which broke the story on Facebook as followers posted live updates throughout the day on its site.
According to police the student was seen with the rifle and when officers arrived, engaged police before he was shot. He was taken to Valley Baptist Medical Center in Brownsville where he died. His name has not been released. Media reports indicate that at least one additional student was detained for questioning. Justice of the Peace Kip V. Johnson Hodge ordered an autopsy.
"He was upset because he and his girlfriend had broken up," said a student, daughter of a local attorney.

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