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**BREAKING** 8TH GRADER SHOOT AND KILLED IN TEXAS

 
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A 15-year-old student was shot and killed by police after he brandished a weapon in the hallways of a south Texas middle school, officials said Wednesday.
 Quoting: Txheat


border town....nothing more needs to be said to understand why the kid had a gun....bet his last name was rosalas or hernandez.
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lol blame the hispanics. why not
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Wowzers.


Jaime Gonzalez is the boys name.

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Very Sad.
 Quoting: DOOM-N-GLOOM


it is.. ended in the worst way possible.. a life being taken..
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Very Sad.
 Quoting: DOOM-N-GLOOM


it is.. ended in the worst way possible.. a life being taken..
 Quoting: ceawaves


that's funny comming from an Ameritard.

ohh the irony
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A crowd of cops couldn't take this desperate criminal alive.
I can hit right shoulder and thigh shots 100% of the time at 10 yards.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4606849


At the range, under controlled conditions. Way to go, action hero! A bad guy shot in the thigh can still keep firing his weapon, which is why when police shoot, they shoot to definitively stop the target and that usually ends up with a fatality.

Everyone's a Monday morning quarterback in situations like this. I don't care how old the stupid kid was-- you point a gun (yes, even a pellet gun) at a cop after he tells you to drop it, you get dropped. End of story.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6665669


Sounds like the only shots fired were by the cops.. This was a kid.. and it should not be the 'end of story'... someone needs to be explaining something.
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Yeah, this kids parents. Everyone has a right to self defense even from a teeny bopper with a gun.
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Very Sad.
 Quoting: DOOM-N-GLOOM


it is.. ended in the worst way possible.. a life being taken..
 Quoting: ceawaves


that's funny comming from an Ameritard.

ohh the irony
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8274129


See, calling people names says more about you then the person you are refering too, especally since you are doing from such a very safe distance.

Just remember, every military actions the US has taken in the last 20 years included Aussies sending troops in support. Now sit down, shut up and wait for your next order.
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A 15-year-old student was shot and killed by police after he brandished a weapon in the hallways of a south Texas middle school, officials said Wednesday.
 Quoting: Txheat


Seems a little old to be in eight grade....
It is still a great day!
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I live 20 miles away from Brownsville and I must say that I am saddened about this. I just wish it would had finish with a totally different outcome.
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I have a tid bit of info on this, it was a bb gun --- thats right the weapon the kid waved around was a bb gun --

I am an ADA in Cameron County and live in the Brownsville area -- do not believe this was released yet to the media

Also the kid took three shots - one was to the head.
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A 15-year-old student was shot and killed by police after he brandished a weapon in the hallways of a south Texas middle school, officials said Wednesday.
 Quoting: Txheat


Seems a little old to be in eight grade....
 Quoting: AZ wonders


Yeah, like he might have been a little slow.

It was a pellet gun he had BTW.

Don't know if it was soft air or what, but just saw that on CBS.

Cops shot him for waving a pellet gun around.

I'm not trying to say that the kid was within his rights. Clearly he was not.

Still, the cops should NOT have reacted with deadly force.

Sad.
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15 in grade 8?? That does not sound right at all...most 8th graders are 13.
 Quoting: canuckchick 7273558


yeah this is true. 13-14

We need more details of the story.
 Quoting: VoraciousHoney


yea i saw that and assumed there may have been past issues. i mean i assumed he has been held back a few years for some reason. sad situation though.

when i was in high school i went to my old middle school to work with the football players one week for a camp we were putting on. i met a 16 year old 8th grader. he was excited to start driving to middle school haha. he had to park down the street because they wouldnt let him use the faculty parking lot and students driving to middle school isnt a problem the school was used to dealing with haha. just think that was at the beginning of the school year in football season. he was going to turn 17 by the end of the year. that would mean he would be legal drinking age when he graduated high school lol. i doubt he finished school though. obviously not much interest.
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Breaking: This just posted in past hour --> video interview w/ boys grandmother concerning his death:

THE BROWNSVILLE HERALD

[link to www.brownsvilleherald.com]

(got link from this Facebook page:

[link to www.facebook.com (secure)]

(also on that page it appears there is a photo someone has uploaded showing the 8th grade boy that died & it shows him posing w/ a girl & she is holding some sort of gun in the photo ?? ... there are 17 comments posted about that photo for those who want more details about all this.

==================

PS: On page w/ the video featuring boy's grandmother, there also is an older video link in the right-hand sidebar from December 13, 2011 titled:

2 students in critical condition following shooting at Edinburg middle school

I PRAY FOR ALL PARTIES INVOLVED IN THIS SITUATION ... THE DECEASED BOY, HIS FAMILY & FRIENDS, THE SCHOOL STAFF, THE POLICE STAFF, & THE LOCAL COMMUNITY ... MAY THERE BE LEARNING, FORGIVENESS, AND HEALING GENERATED IN RESPONSE TO THESE MOST UNFORTUNATE EVENTS
~~~ {{{ OM AH HUM VAJRA GURU PADMA SIDDHI HUM ~~~ HRIH }}} ~~~
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Very Sad.
 Quoting: DOOM-N-GLOOM


it is.. ended in the worst way possible.. a life being taken..
 Quoting: ceawaves


that's funny comming from an Ameritard.

ohh the irony
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8274129


See, calling people names says more about you then the person you are refering too, especally since you are doing from such a very safe distance.

Just remember, every military actions the US has taken in the last 20 years included Aussies sending troops in support. Now sit down, shut up and wait for your next order.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4650715


america made aussies do it.

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I have a tid bit of info on this, it was a bb gun --- thats right the weapon the kid waved around was a bb gun --

I am an ADA in Cameron County and live in the Brownsville area -- do not believe this was released yet to the media

Also the kid took three shots - one was to the head.
 Quoting: justice4all


I read it was to the back of the head.
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A 15-year-old student was shot and killed by police after he brandished a weapon in the hallways of a south Texas middle school, officials said Wednesday.
 Quoting: Txheat


Holy shit Americans are fat.

Even the cops are fat.

I guess that's why they shoot first, a foot chase is definatley out of the question.
 Quoting: FatalW1shes





I'd hate to see those fat f*cks when they have to actually run after a suspect.....they probably just shoot their azzes!!!!

DAMN THEY ARE FAT.........WTF!!!!!

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4302061



down south, texas, yeah especially. A LOT of fat fucks...too many.
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Breaking: This just posted in past hour --> video interview w/ boys grandmother concerning his death:

THE BROWNSVILLE HERALD

[link to www.brownsvilleherald.com]

(got link from this Facebook page:

[link to www.facebook.com (secure)]

(also on that page it appears there is a photo someone has uploaded showing the 8th grade boy that died & it shows him posing w/ a girl & she is holding some sort of gun in the photo ?? ... there are 17 comments posted about that photo for those who want more details about all this.

==================

PS: On page w/ the video featuring boy's grandmother, there also is an older video link in the right-hand sidebar from December 13, 2011 titled:

2 students in critical condition following shooting at Edinburg middle school

I PRAY FOR ALL PARTIES INVOLVED IN THIS SITUATION ... THE DECEASED BOY, HIS FAMILY & FRIENDS, THE SCHOOL STAFF, THE POLICE STAFF, & THE LOCAL COMMUNITY ... MAY THERE BE LEARNING, FORGIVENESS, AND HEALING GENERATED IN RESPONSE TO THESE MOST UNFORTUNATE EVENTS
~~~ {{{ OM AH HUM VAJRA GURU PADMA SIDDHI HUM ~~~ HRIH }}} ~~~
 Quoting: Topaz


My bad ,,, correction that it was not the grandmother but the GODMOTHER in that interview linked above. She also relays information about how the guardian (or ?? mother) of boy was notified, etc ... she does switch over to Spanish while speaking so not certain about details.

Also, been looking around that news site & found this video too, from same local news site; the parents & students are telling what they knew, heard, saw, etc:

Students, parents react after Cummings incident


QUOTE: "Many students said they did not know why they were put on lockdown, while parents shared frustration about getting enough information."


[link to www.brownsvilleherald.com]
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I have a tid bit of info on this, it was a bb gun --- thats right the weapon the kid waved around was a bb gun --

I am an ADA in Cameron County and live in the Brownsville area -- do not believe this was released yet to the media

Also the kid took three shots - one was to the head.
 Quoting: justice4all


That just went mainstream a little bit ago. All hell is gonna break loose in that town now.
"You'd be surprised how enterest'n people become when they think your really stupid".
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good im glad look what happens when they dont , columbine , the mad chink .. fuck them take em down .. fucking idiot's school is to learn ..

not fucking gangs and shooting , assholes ....
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Actually school is for indoctrination....

RON PAUL 2012


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Student Killed by Officers Had Pellet Gun



Sad sad day. Nice going Mr.Dumbass Popo.
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(NOTE: Some content is GRAPHIC.) Action 4 News has posted unedited police radio traffic of the Wednesday morning shooting at Cummings Middle School in Brownsville.
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BREAKING: BROWNSVILLE POLICE PRESS CONFERENCE

This video has just been posted to the local news station:

[link to www.brownsvilleherald.com]

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Regarding replies discussing concerns about his age of 15 year-old in 8th grade. I have background dealing w/ schools & social issues. It is not that strange anymore for a few kids in every class to be a year or 2 older (sometimes more even) than classmates due to all sorts of reasons:

He could have special needs (such as Autism, health or mental problems), or could have been held back so to start school a bit older & more mature; or simply had learning problems & ended up repeating a grade in the past; also kids often get behind if the family has any sort of crisis (economic, illness, divorce - you name it). Also easy to get behind from basic issues like having to move repeatedly and child gets too behind to get caught up.

Understand that schools no longer just routinely promote students to the next grade if they don't pass their TAKS (now called STAR in Texas) State Assessment minimum scores or parents voice concerns that they feel that their child needs additional time added for catching up or to better grasp the curriculum, so on.
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This boy's death hurts my heart as do feel that we are all one on higher levels. And comment regarding this boy's tragice death and his wrongful behavior w/ bringing the pellet/BB gun to school and how he was acting out towards the system, etc ======== >

In my research, it is clear that we, the society at large, are also to blame, very much, for what is now taking place in our lives and is growing "out-of-control" on all levels ... meaning, how we are allowing things to suddeny become the new norms for our world. And this is all being instigated without people taking much, if any, notice. And as our jobs and finances dis-in-te-grate at same time, people are overly stressed and fighting to survive and barely able to have time for anything but daily struggles. So few really open their eyes and realize what is being done by very powerful / evil forces operating behind the scenes.

For example, do you see how the young girls are being sexualized at very early ages and this is with toys, movies, music (EVERYTHING) and something is forcing these trends on us, like it or not... and same forces are teaching the young boys to be mean and to "use" the girls for their desires, to fight and harm others without any sense of caring or trying to be of higher nature. Also same is being done to glamorize guns & violence and promiscuous & aggressive sexl acts = all are becoming more & more the basic of ALL entertainment venues, the fashion images, the music videos, the "gansta" image is now portrayed as so cool, blah blah, ,,,

AND WE ESTABLISHED ADULTS DO NOT RISE UP AGAINST THESE THINGS BUT INSTEAD JUST GO ALONG AS IF INCAPABLE OF ENACING ANY SAY OR CONTROL !! And our children are our future and they are being consumed & destroyed by this monster that grows more strong each day ... as we, the backbone of sociey, mindlessly go along with the *agenda* (yes, AGENDA, as that is what it truly is when all boiled down).

I am not against guns at all or an advocate of gun control as am Texan pro-liberty and individual rights to defense, so on. BUT... am against allowing the NWO d'evil agenda to take over our lives 100% as is now happening via media, emphasis on sports as if gladiator battles, many forms of Hollywood entertainment, video games = all part of deliberate programming & manipulation of all elements in our social systems.

Surely some of you all others see how this taking place yet very few actually realize how vast the impact all this is making on humanity ... turning even children into gangster types ???
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Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't air soft guns and regular pellet or BB guns have an orange tip?

If the boy was waving it around, couldn't the police have seen that it wasn't a real gun?
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Just FYI it was not a real gun. It was a pellet gun....fail cops fail...
 Quoting: Komi


It doesn't matter what type of gun it is. If the kid was stupid enough to point it at them, and they couldn't tell the diff, they have every legal right to shoot first.

Can you tell the difference between a real gun and a pellet gun at 20 feet?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1546557


Doesn't matter. Ask yourself: if you were a cop on the scene would YOU like to get shot in the eye and be blinded for life? Or the throat, or the femoral artery?

I understand that U.S. pellet guns have higher muzzle velocities than what we can legally buy up in Canada (500fps max without a Firearms License) too.

Up here we consider pellet (and even non-firing REPLICA guns) to be actual firearms for the purposes of criminal prosecution. You rob a bank with a cap gun where you've removed the orange tip from the barrel, it's armed robbery, pointing a firearm, assault w/a weapon, etc. Aim it at the police at your own peril, too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6665669


understanding you're an idiot, that's about the only thing you're being clear about.. this ain't Canada. And we don't want to be like you...this was a 15 year old CHILD...
 Quoting: ceawaves


let me explain something to you...I am around 15 year old CHILDREN all the time at work ( I work in a public building)...and a great many of them are complete assholes who have no fucking respect for anyone or anything.

He knew what he was doing, and the cop did his job. 15 year olds are well aware of what they are doing. Bad day for him, and I'm not shedding any tears, you get what you give in life and he learned earlier than most.
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Just FYI it was not a real gun. It was a pellet gun....fail cops fail...
 Quoting: Komi


It doesn't matter what type of gun it is. If the kid was stupid enough to point it at them, and they couldn't tell the diff, they have every legal right to shoot first.

Can you tell the difference between a real gun and a pellet gun at 20 feet?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1546557





Oh hell no, we used to know some people that would buy their little boys lots of play guns, pistols,shotguns ect; they would even let them bring them to church or where ever.....my kids may have had a few too but they were never allowed to leave the home.

Now we buy them real guns....
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A crowd of cops couldn't take this desperate criminal alive.
I can hit right shoulder and thigh shots 100% of the time at 10 yards.
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At the range, under controlled conditions. Way to go, action hero! A bad guy shot in the thigh can still keep firing his weapon, which is why when police shoot, they shoot to definitively stop the target and that usually ends up with a fatality.

Everyone's a Monday morning quarterback in situations like this. I don't care how old the stupid kid was-- you point a gun (yes, even a pellet gun) at a cop after he tells you to drop it, you get dropped. End of story.
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Your an IDIOT. "Know it all guy"

Sure a big tough "bad guy' shot in the thigh could maybe shoot back BUT..... BUT...... how many "tough" bad guy 8th fucking graders are able to stand a 45 slug to the leg and keep shooting you dip shit?

Fuck your "dont bla bla bla" at a cop.. "you will get dropped bla bla bla" macho badge balls attitude dude.
Cops have evolved into faggot pussies that hide behind that little badge for protection.
They have a million other ways to "stop" someone... especially a fucking kid, other then killing him.
Fuck cops...all of them. Fuck America's police state!
If your a cop... then fuck you to.

Pig bastards ----> flip
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Cops need to be smarter than this.
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What the hell was a 15 year old doing, in school, with a weapon in the first place?
Lets be honest people.. when a 15 year old points a weapon at you.. do you trust him NOT to shoot? They think they are invicible at that age! Good God.. I feel bad for the kid, his family and the cop that shot him.. but I'm angry at who ever gave him access to bring that thing to school in the first place!
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It doesn't matter what type of gun it is. If the kid was stupid enough to point it at them, and they couldn't tell the diff, they have every legal right to shoot first.

Can you tell the difference between a real gun and a pellet gun at 20 feet?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1546557


Doesn't matter. Ask yourself: if you were a cop on the scene would YOU like to get shot in the eye and be blinded for life? Or the throat, or the femoral artery?

I understand that U.S. pellet guns have higher muzzle velocities than what we can legally buy up in Canada (500fps max without a Firearms License) too.

Up here we consider pellet (and even non-firing REPLICA guns) to be actual firearms for the purposes of criminal prosecution. You rob a bank with a cap gun where you've removed the orange tip from the barrel, it's armed robbery, pointing a firearm, assault w/a weapon, etc. Aim it at the police at your own peril, too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6665669


understanding you're an idiot, that's about the only thing you're being clear about.. this ain't Canada. And we don't want to be like you...this was a 15 year old CHILD...
 Quoting: ceawaves


let me explain something to you...I am around 15 year old CHILDREN all the time at work ( I work in a public building)...and a great many of them are complete assholes who have no fucking respect for anyone or anything.

He knew what he was doing, and the cop did his job. 15 year olds are well aware of what they are doing. Bad day for him, and I'm not shedding any tears, you get what you give in life and he learned earlier than most.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3324945


Then you're part of the problem, people like you help mold kids like him.. But sounds like you're like most of them spent you life on the government dole just looking the other way... People like you are also a shame of this country!
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i smell fuckin gun control a comin
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


gaaaaaaaaaad dammit

obammer youre really turning the tables here buddy

oridin
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Remember last week the kid that shot the 2 kids with the AR-15 at the basketball court. And he was an illegal too. They never did say anything about the gun? Or where it came from? Whats an illegal kid doin with an AR-15? Where did he get it.

Now this. Wonder if he is a legal citizen and where he got his gun. These are questions that need to be answered especially when they go to obvious measures to change gun laws in this country. Even to the point of making guns go across the border, arming over 67,ooo mexicans with guns from america? WTF? Maybe this is why they called it fast and furious. Sure is heading that direction.

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