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**BREAKING** 8TH GRADER SHOOT AND KILLED IN TEXAS

 
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Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't air soft guns and regular pellet or BB guns have an orange tip?

If the boy was waving it around, couldn't the police have seen that it wasn't a real gun?
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Pellet,airsoft,bb are all different types of 'guns'.

airsoft fire 6mm plastic, paintball of metal balls [bbs] at a low semi-low velocity. They could at best knock an eye out. And yes, in the U.S. they require an orange tip [NYC: the 'gun' body must be clear plastic]. Their danger lies in the fact the orange tip can of course be painted over, and they look remarkably realistic. They're also dirt cheap. Cops seeing someone with one of these will for all intents and purposes consider it a real firearm and act accordingly. And you will be charged as if it were a real gun if you use it in the commission of a crime. A very serious offense, much worse than, for example, unarmed robbery.

Again, a fake, toy 'gun' [including pellet, airsoft,bb] used in the commission of a crime will be treated and prosecuted as if it were a real firearm.
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Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't air soft guns and regular pellet or BB guns have an orange tip?

If the boy was waving it around, couldn't the police have seen that it wasn't a real gun?
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There was a picture of the boy's gun in the press conference link above. It looked like a real gun. Allegedly, the boy refused repeated requests to put the gun down and then he pointed the gun at the police officers.

Sad, very, very sad.
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Doesn't matter. Ask yourself: if you were a cop on the scene would YOU like to get shot in the eye and be blinded for life? Or the throat, or the femoral artery?

I understand that U.S. pellet guns have higher muzzle velocities than what we can legally buy up in Canada (500fps max without a Firearms License) too.

Up here we consider pellet (and even non-firing REPLICA guns) to be actual firearms for the purposes of criminal prosecution. You rob a bank with a cap gun where you've removed the orange tip from the barrel, it's armed robbery, pointing a firearm, assault w/a weapon, etc. Aim it at the police at your own peril, too.
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understanding you're an idiot, that's about the only thing you're being clear about.. this ain't Canada. And we don't want to be like you...this was a 15 year old CHILD...
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let me explain something to you...I am around 15 year old CHILDREN all the time at work ( I work in a public building)...and a great many of them are complete assholes who have no fucking respect for anyone or anything.

He knew what he was doing, and the cop did his job. 15 year olds are well aware of what they are doing. Bad day for him, and I'm not shedding any tears, you get what you give in life and he learned earlier than most.

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Then you're part of the problem, people like you help mold kids like him.. But sounds like you're like most of them spent you life on the government dole just looking the other way... People like you are also a shame of this country!
 Quoting: ceawaves


Really? I have no idea how you came to the conclusion how this 46 year old who has worked since age 16 lived on a government dole. Where the hell did you come up with that?

Shame of this country? Why? you know nothing of me. I simply stated that this kid's actions justify the end-if the story is correct. Why you sit and cry over a 15 year old little punk is beyond me.
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What the hell, I graduated highschool at 17? WTF? Grade 8 & 15?
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A crowd of cops couldn't take this desperate criminal alive.
I can hit right shoulder and thigh shots 100% of the time at 10 yards.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4606849


At the range, under controlled conditions. Way to go, action hero! A bad guy shot in the thigh can still keep firing his weapon, which is why when police shoot, they shoot to definitively stop the target and that usually ends up with a fatality.

Everyone's a Monday morning quarterback in situations like this. I don't care how old the stupid kid was-- you point a gun (yes, even a pellet gun) at a cop after he tells you to drop it, you get dropped. End of story.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6665669


Your an IDIOT. "Know it all guy"

Sure a big tough "bad guy' shot in the thigh could maybe shoot back BUT..... BUT...... how many "tough" bad guy 8th fucking graders are able to stand a 45 slug to the leg and keep shooting you dip shit?

Fuck your "dont bla bla bla" at a cop.. "you will get dropped bla bla bla" macho badge balls attitude dude.
Cops have evolved into faggot pussies that hide behind that little badge for protection.
They have a million other ways to "stop" someone... especially a fucking kid, other then killing him.
Fuck cops...all of them. Fuck America's police state!
If your a cop... then fuck you to.

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 Quoting: Freddie Felon 1545886


I remember the virginia tech shooting with the asian dude going room to room after he chained the entrance doors closed. I thought in note worthy, that as the camera panned the whole seen, cops were behind their cars and SUV's pointing their guns at the building! And you could here pop pop pop pop while unarmed students were droping dead from being shot. I couldnt think why just one cop wouldnt have jumped in his SUV and rammed it through the door and go get the lil murderer! Instead unarmed students were running for their lives while cops on the payroll were aiming their guns at the building? Just saying exactly what i witnessed and couldnt believe it.

In this case, no shots had been fired when they arrived. 13 to 14 year old, and we shoot and ask questions later? Hmmm. The guy hadnt even shot someone! Can you imagine if the gun had been plastic how they would have felt?

The other thing though that makes me wonder if the kid was an illegal. Most kids already know with all the incidents of guns at school not to bring one. Onm the other hand if hes an illegal and a gang member it would go along way in explaining what hes doing with a gun, and at school no less!
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A 15-year-old teenager can be over 6 feet tall.

I've seen plenty of pellet guns that do not have orange tips.

This really sounds like a an episode of suicide by cop to me.
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I guess it proves that cops are deadlier than armed 8th graders.
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understanding you're an idiot, that's about the only thing you're being clear about.. this ain't Canada. And we don't want to be like you...this was a 15 year old CHILD...
 Quoting: ceawaves


let me explain something to you...I am around 15 year old CHILDREN all the time at work ( I work in a public building)...and a great many of them are complete assholes who have no fucking respect for anyone or anything.

He knew what he was doing, and the cop did his job. 15 year olds are well aware of what they are doing. Bad day for him, and I'm not shedding any tears, you get what you give in life and he learned earlier than most.

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Then you're part of the problem, people like you help mold kids like him.. But sounds like you're like most of them spent you life on the government dole just looking the other way... People like you are also a shame of this country!
 Quoting: ceawaves


Really? I have no idea how you came to the conclusion how this 46 year old who has worked since age 16 lived on a government dole. Where the hell did you come up with that?

Shame of this country? Why? you know nothing of me. I simply stated that this kid's actions justify the end-if the story is correct. Why you sit and cry over a 15 year old little punk is beyond me.
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What makes you think I'm crying?.. it's sad, but a lot of things are these days.. i support the cops most of the time..most ALL the time..if they start killing kids in schools.. where's it stop? beleive this is a first...but i could have missed some other killings.. it's not even about the 'punk'.. it's about the state of things we're in.
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I guess it proves that cops are deadlier than armed 8th graders.
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Best point all night.... almost..;)

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A crowd of cops couldn't take this desperate criminal alive.
I can hit right shoulder and thigh shots 100% of the time at 10 yards.
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Here's a video of what happens when a police officer fails to shoot someone threatening him.


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let me explain something to you...I am around 15 year old CHILDREN all the time at work ( I work in a public building)...and a great many of them are complete assholes who have no fucking respect for anyone or anything.

He knew what he was doing, and the cop did his job. 15 year olds are well aware of what they are doing. Bad day for him, and I'm not shedding any tears, you get what you give in life and he learned earlier than most.

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Then you're part of the problem, people like you help mold kids like him.. But sounds like you're like most of them spent you life on the government dole just looking the other way... People like you are also a shame of this country!
 Quoting: ceawaves


Really? I have no idea how you came to the conclusion how this 46 year old who has worked since age 16 lived on a government dole. Where the hell did you come up with that?

Shame of this country? Why? you know nothing of me. I simply stated that this kid's actions justify the end-if the story is correct. Why you sit and cry over a 15 year old little punk is beyond me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3324945


What makes you think I'm crying?.. it's sad, but a lot of things are these days.. i support the cops most of the time..most ALL the time..if they start killing kids in schools.. where's it stop? beleive this is a first...but i could have missed some other killings.. it's not even about the 'punk'.. it's about the state of things we're in.
 Quoting: ceawaves


You answered neither of my questions, but that's ok.
I agree with you that cops can be out of control-but-would it have been ok to shoot him AFTER he killed 8 people? Read the scenario (assuming it is true)...and tell me that there isn't one less anti-social roaming the planet tonight.

5=child
15=not so much.
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Well they sure killed the hell out of that kid today.


I don't know why they can't shoot to maim.

I mean an old crusty fucked up dude sure...but a kid?

Come on....shoot him in the ass or the leg.


Or the shoulder.


You don't have to shoot to kill. Pistols today with modern ammunition are pretty damn accurate. If you know how to shoot, a leg is a big target.
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Well they sure killed the hell out of that kid today.


I don't know why they can't shoot to maim.

I mean an old crusty fucked up dude sure...but a kid?

Come on....shoot him in the ass or the leg.


Or the shoulder.


You don't have to shoot to kill. Pistols today with modern ammunition are pretty damn accurate. If you know how to shoot, a leg is a big target.
 Quoting: FatalW1shes


Here's a video of what happens when a police officer fails to shoot someone threatening him.


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i smell fuckin gun control a comin
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iT WAS a BB-gun
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Here's a video of what happens when a police officer fails to shoot someone threatening him.
 Quoting: We Who Watch


The only problem is when someone tries to defend themselves from a cop that is threatening them. They can't.

On the one hand, it is socially acceptable for a cop to murder to save his life, on the other it's socially unacceptable if someone kills a cop to save their own life.

It's an insane double standard that proves that for all their talk freedom, liberty, and all that bullshit, Americans loath the individual, and worship the State.

As long as the violence is committed by agents of the government, any violence is justified and appropriate.

Last Edited by Shingen on 01/04/2012 10:46 PM
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"But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain - that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case, it is unfit to exist." -Lysander Spooner

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A crowd of cops couldn't take this desperate criminal alive.
I can hit right shoulder and thigh shots 100% of the time at 10 yards.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4606849


At the range, under controlled conditions. Way to go, action hero! A bad guy shot in the thigh can still keep firing his weapon, which is why when police shoot, they shoot to definitively stop the target and that usually ends up with a fatality.

Everyone's a Monday morning quarterback in situations like this. I don't care how old the stupid kid was-- you point a gun (yes, even a pellet gun) at a cop after he tells you to drop it, you get dropped. End of story.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6665669


At the range and under any circumstances.
People shot through the femur generally stop fighting.
It wasn't a "bad guy" it was a kid.
Cops are out of control in America.
The militarization of the police has been a very bad thing and will get worse from here.
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Just FYI it was not a real gun. It was a pellet gun....fail cops fail...
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It doesn't matter what type of gun it is. If the kid was stupid enough to point it at them, and they couldn't tell the diff, they have every legal right to shoot first.

Can you tell the difference between a real gun and a pellet gun at 20 feet?
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That's what so sad about the whole situation. Kid's really are that stupid. Way too many of them. My kids made it out of their teens and I'm just now finding out some of the stupid shit they pulled. Good kids, just pulling stupid teenage stunts.
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Just FYI it was not a real gun. It was a pellet gun....fail cops fail...
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It doesn't matter what type of gun it is. If the kid was stupid enough to point it at them, and they couldn't tell the diff, they have every legal right to shoot first.

Can you tell the difference between a real gun and a pellet gun at 20 feet?
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Doesn't matter. Ask yourself: if you were a cop on the scene would YOU like to get shot in the eye and be blinded for life? Or the throat, or the femoral artery?

I understand that U.S. pellet guns have higher muzzle velocities than what we can legally buy up in Canada (500fps max without a Firearms License) too.

Up here we consider pellet (and even non-firing REPLICA guns) to be actual firearms for the purposes of criminal prosecution. You rob a bank with a cap gun where you've removed the orange tip from the barrel, it's armed robbery, pointing a firearm, assault w/a weapon, etc. Aim it at the police at your own peril, too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6665669


understanding you're an idiot, that's about the only thing you're being clear about.. this ain't Canada. And we don't want to be like you...this was a 15 year old CHILD...
 Quoting: ceawaves


Your the idiot douche bag, please tell me you havent reproduced with any one because thats all we need is some more F*&king idiots like your self running around.
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Then you're part of the problem, people like you help mold kids like him.. But sounds like you're like most of them spent you life on the government dole just looking the other way... People like you are also a shame of this country!
 Quoting: ceawaves


Really? I have no idea how you came to the conclusion how this 46 year old who has worked since age 16 lived on a government dole. Where the hell did you come up with that?

Shame of this country? Why? you know nothing of me. I simply stated that this kid's actions justify the end-if the story is correct. Why you sit and cry over a 15 year old little punk is beyond me.
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What makes you think I'm crying?.. it's sad, but a lot of things are these days.. i support the cops most of the time..most ALL the time..if they start killing kids in schools.. where's it stop? beleive this is a first...but i could have missed some other killings.. it's not even about the 'punk'.. it's about the state of things we're in.
 Quoting: ceawaves


You answered neither of my questions, but that's ok.
I agree with you that cops can be out of control-but-would it have been ok to shoot him AFTER he killed 8 people? Read the scenario (assuming it is true)...and tell me that there isn't one less anti-social roaming the planet tonight.

5=child
15=not so much.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3324945


Are you telling us they knew his age before they shot him? I remember how I thought my 13 year old was all grown up now. Then she goes and does something that reminds me she is just a kid.
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i smell fuckin gun control a comin
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iT WAS a BB-gun
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But it was a gun, pointed at them... they have no idea what kind of gun is pointed at them, they just know IT'S A GUN!
Why did he have a gun at school in the first place? Who gave him access to that gun? Don't blame the cops for doing thier jobs... if you think you can do better, join the police force and try doing what they do on a daily basis! I sure as hell know I couldn't.
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Well they sure killed the hell out of that kid today.


I don't know why they can't shoot to maim.

I mean an old crusty fucked up dude sure...but a kid?

Come on....shoot him in the ass or the leg.


Or the shoulder.


You don't have to shoot to kill. Pistols today with modern ammunition are pretty damn accurate. If you know how to shoot, a leg is a big target.
 Quoting: FatalW1shes


Here's a video of what happens when a police officer fails to shoot someone threatening him.


 Quoting: We Who Watch


No, that is what happened when that cop didn't shoot that 1 man that was pointing a gun at him.


That is not what happens every time.


That is what happened THAT time. We are also talking about a full on adult there. Not a 15 year old kid.


Also that cop could have shot that guy in the leg as well. Obviously after he shot the cop all bets were off and they should have smoked his ass to death...and the did. The guy already proved he was a deadly threat. Fuck him




You don't have to shoot to kill when you fire the first shot. You can shoot somebody anywhere. Inside of 25 yards a pistol can hit with pinpoint accuracy.

If they would have popped that kid in the leg it would have diffusded that situation. If not then killing him would be justified.

We are talking about a 15 year old kid.
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A crowd of cops couldn't take this desperate criminal alive.
I can hit right shoulder and thigh shots 100% of the time at 10 yards.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4606849


At the range, under controlled conditions. Way to go, action hero! A bad guy shot in the thigh can still keep firing his weapon, which is why when police shoot, they shoot to definitively stop the target and that usually ends up with a fatality.

Everyone's a Monday morning quarterback in situations like this. I don't care how old the stupid kid was-- you point a gun (yes, even a pellet gun) at a cop after he tells you to drop it, you get dropped. End of story.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6665669


At the range and under any circumstances.
People shot through the femur generally stop fighting. says who? there are numerous instances of people being shot in the legs, chest, abdomen and still able to fight/shoot back, and a couple that I know of even manages to kill the police officer (one even with the cops own gun). If you want to take that chance, trying to shoot someone to wound them, go ahead.
It wasn't a "bad guy" it was a kid.
Cops are out of control in America.
The militarization of the police has been a very bad thing and will get worse from here.
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Well they sure killed the hell out of that kid today.


I don't know why they can't shoot to maim.

I mean an old crusty fucked up dude sure...but a kid?

Come on....shoot him in the ass or the leg.


Or the shoulder.


You don't have to shoot to kill. Pistols today with modern ammunition are pretty damn accurate. If you know how to shoot, a leg is a big target.
 Quoting: FatalW1shes


Here's a video of what happens when a police officer fails to shoot someone threatening him.


 Quoting: We Who Watch


No, that is what happened when that cop didn't shoot that 1 man that was pointing a gun at him.


That is not what happens every time.


That is what happened THAT time. We are also talking about a full on adult there. Not a 15 year old kid.


Also that cop could have shot that guy in the leg as well. Obviously after he shot the cop all bets were off and they should have smoked his ass to death...and the did. The guy already proved he was a deadly threat. Fuck him




You don't have to shoot to kill when you fire the first shot. You can shoot somebody anywhere. Inside of 25 yards a pistol can hit with pinpoint accuracy. sure, the pistol can, but can the shooter? Very doubtful in such a situation as the officers were in

If they would have popped that kid in the leg it would have diffusded that situation. If not then killing him would be justified.

We are talking about a 15 year old kid.
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I think any of the opinion "It's just a 15 year old kid" should have to serve as a police officer on the front line of any big-city police force. In such an environment he or she could quickly learn that "kids" are quite capable of doing evil and deadly actions.

For example: 12-Year-Old Boys Drop Shopping Cart on Woman [link to video.answers.com]

A real-life firearm confrontation is a fluid thing. Rather than a stationary target, you have a real person capable of moving in an unpredictable manner. Missed shots don't magically stop, they continue on and may injure another person in the line of fire. Ricochets happen. As such is the reality, a mobile gunfight in a crowded school would be one of the last things any sane person would want to occur.

If you don't want to be injured in life, don't engage in high risk activities, don't do things with bad potential outcomes, and don't be around "kids" who brandish what appear to be guns in public.
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i smell fuckin gun control a comin
 Quoting: Phennommennonn




iT WAS a BB-gun
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3331153


But it was a gun, pointed at them... they have no idea what kind of gun is pointed at them, they just know IT'S A GUN!
Why did he have a gun at school in the first place? Who gave him access to that gun? Don't blame the cops for doing thier jobs... if you think you can do better, join the police force and try doing what they do on a daily basis! I sure as hell know I couldn't.
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You need to kill yourself.

If a cop can't tell the difference between a replica weapon, or a pellet gun, he shouldn't be a cop.

Remember those TASERS the cops just love using on people in wheelchairs and hospital beds?

The kid was stupid, he was being a stupid kid who had watched too much tv. This isn't a reason to be killed. Kids have tons of hormone issues, it's called growing up. Something this kid wont get the chance to do.

Cops are way too shoot happy. This should have been handled with a trank dart, (these really exist) or a Taser, or the most powerful weapon the cops rational and logic.
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I think any of the opinion "It's just a 15 year old kid" should have to serve as a police officer on the front line of any big-city police force. In such an environment he or she could quickly learn that "kids" are quite capable of doing evil and deadly actions.

For example: 12-Year-Old Boys Drop Shopping Cart on Woman [link to video.answers.com]

A real-life firearm confrontation is a fluid thing. Rather than a stationary target, you have a real person capable of moving in an unpredictable manner. Missed shots don't magically stop, they continue on and may injure another person in the line of fire. Ricochets happen. As such is the reality, a mobile gunfight in a crowded school would be one of the last things any sane person would want to occur.

If you don't want to be injured in life, don't engage in high risk activities, don't do things with bad potential outcomes, and don't be around "kids" who brandish what appear to be guns in public.
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This is plainly a person with zero real life experience.
Grow UP.
This isn't an episode of "Parenthood", this is real life. The world the cops "Risk their lives everyday" in, is the same world you shop for groceries.

If you think it's acceptable for cops to shoot this kid, then it's acceptable for cops to shoot you. Your lipstick, might be a ballistic knife, your key chain a chain weapon.

You come across as the same bleeding heart kind of person who complains when zoo keepers shoot animals instead of using trank darts. You cant have it both ways.

Why is it humane to shoot a kid with a bullet, and an animal with a dart. I can only hope that one day you fall victim to the "king shit cop" with little man syndrome.

A little reality might make you see the light.
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What the hell, I graduated highschool at 17? WTF? Grade 8 & 15?
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That's what I was saying.

The boy obviously either wasn't too bright, or had some serious issues or both.
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3 shoots were fired,,

1 to the leg
2 to the shoulder
3 the back of the head,, (fatally killed the boy)

was the shoot to the head necessary?..
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Really? I have no idea how you came to the conclusion how this 46 year old who has worked since age 16 lived on a government dole. Where the hell did you come up with that?

Shame of this country? Why? you know nothing of me. I simply stated that this kid's actions justify the end-if the story is correct. Why you sit and cry over a 15 year old little punk is beyond me.
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What makes you think I'm crying?.. it's sad, but a lot of things are these days.. i support the cops most of the time..most ALL the time..if they start killing kids in schools.. where's it stop? beleive this is a first...but i could have missed some other killings.. it's not even about the 'punk'.. it's about the state of things we're in.
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You answered neither of my questions, but that's ok.
I agree with you that cops can be out of control-but-would it have been ok to shoot him AFTER he killed 8 people? Read the scenario (assuming it is true)...and tell me that there isn't one less anti-social roaming the planet tonight.

5=child
15=not so much.
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Are you telling us they knew his age before they shot him? I remember how I thought my 13 year old was all grown up now. Then she goes and does something that reminds me she is just a kid.
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They actually probably thought he was YOUNGER than he was. He's in a middle school, and he's 1-2 years too old to be there.
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3 shoots were fired,,

1 to the leg
2 to the shoulder
3 the back of the head,, (fatally killed the boy)

was the shoot to the head necessary?..
 Quoting: Blunt


Were they all fired by the same officer?

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