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Explain to me how I'm going to BURN in hell!!

 
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Hell is one of the biggest falsehoods to come out of organized religion.
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I would like to know what happened to people BEFORE Jesus? Anyone care to explain this one, I would be very interested to learn what you have to say.
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what do you mean. how they were saved. That's easy, they just beleaved God and it was accounted unto them as righteousness. read it n Hebrews
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thats a good question too..what was going on before jesus..
 Quoting: Aiyanna



I explained in a thread above....THERE WAS NO ONE BEFORE JESUS... PEOPLE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN SAVED BY THE CROSS.. THE CROSS STRETCHES BACKWARD AND FORWARD IN TIME. WE ARE SAVED BY JESUS' SACRIFICE ON THE CROSS. HE FULFILLED THE LAW. THE NEW TESTAMENT FULFILLED THE OLD. THE SAINTS IN THE OLD TESTAMENT WERE SAVED BY THE CROSS...LOOKING FORWARD TO THE CROSS. THE OLD TESTAMENT IS FILLED WITH REFERENCES TO AND PICTURES OF THE CROSS AND JESUS' SACRIFICE, FULFILLING THE LAWS. IT'S THE CROSS OF CHRIST THAT SAVES... FROM THE BEGINNING OF MANKIND.
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OP
get yourself a KJV bible and read Romans Chapters 1-2
it will show you the wrath to come to all with reprobate minds, whom God "gave up"

save yourself by reading further and beliveing 3:24-26
finish up with Chapter 8

dont worry about the details of Hell (or later the lake of fire) if you just will believe in Jesus and the truth
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Ok so some questions came into my mind while reading a thread about atheist are fools and etc. Now i'm not technically an atheist but the question is still lingering and in need of an answer!

Here's the thread : Thread: Atheists are fools? (Page 3)

And here was my question that i am digging for an answer for: "If Majority of us will be going to hell for all enternity and burned with fire, and burned with cigarettes, And ass raped by demons etc..etc.. I just can't make sense of this..If we die we leave behind our physical bodies therefore we are spiritual- correct? Then how would i be burned with fire in the spiritual world? Isn't a fire's "burning pain" a physical emotion? So how would i feel -physical- fire burning my spiritual body?" (quoting myself from the thread)

Does anyone know how this will be possible? eyebat
 Quoting: Aiyanna


You're getting caught up in what other people think and interpret about the Bible and the afterlife. Maybe instead, you should take a step back to discern the facts.

To me, it seems that this is the crux that everyone bases their belief on God. Whether or not Heaven and Hell exists... In my honest opinion this obviously plays into a material and emotional attachment the individual has while experiencing this material existence.

Nevertheless, many would want to hope that Heaven is real because they wish to see their lost loved ones on the other-side. On the reverse, they feel that if they buy into Heaven, they have to buy into Hell too and that if they are a bad Christian - they'll go to a lake of fire for ever and ever and ever Amen.

But again, what has shaped this perception of the afterlife? What purpose does fearing death have? No one wants to die, we don't know what is on the otherside, even though there are many who have claimed to have gone there or what have you.

REGARDLESS, to me, Heaven and Hell is as simple as Christ had explained it. Heaven and Hell is found within, to find atonement, or At-one-ment, to be at peace - to no longer fight the inner demons and accepting who you are. This is heaven, it is a state of mind. Like a monk at a monastry who meditates daily - this is the same process. To reach enlightenment.

Hell - is to me, not a place you go, but again a state of mind. Hell is to live each day with a burning regret inside. To never let go of your mistakes. Christ taught that we are all born of Sin and that we are all imperfect in the eyes of the Lord.
Indeed this would be true because we are sinful lusty creatures. I have no problem accepting what I am. Again though, those who regret and fight the tide, never accepting and yet live on to carry their grudge, they are burning inside. They are in hell. As their miserable world spirals out of control, who will save their fall?

Again, step back and think about the information you receive. Then, the easiest thing to ask yourself is what purpose does this serve? If you find yourself answering by saying either fear or control, then that is MANS influence. God gave you freewill.
 Quoting: Children of the Atom


That just made sense. I don't know how and why but this clicked together some stuff i have read..and made alot of sense..I don't know how to explain it but.."imperfect in the eyes of the lord"..this is something in my mind that has never left. It is the root of all the paths for me from the beginning.
Humankind has not woven the web of life.
We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves.
All things are bound together.
All things connect.

Chief Seattle, 1854

When all the trees have been cut down,
when all the animals have been hunted,
when all the waters are polluted,
when all the air is unsafe to breathe,
only then will you discover you cannot eat money.

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"Our land is everything to us... I will tell you one of the things we remember on our land. We remember that our grandfathers paid for it - with their lives." - John Wooden Leg, Cheyenne

You must teach your children that the ground beneath their feet is the ashes of your grandfathers.
So that they will respect the land, tell your children that the earth is rich with the lives of our kin.
Teach your children what we have taught our children, that the earth is our mother.
Whatever befalls the earth befalls the sons of the earth.
If men spit upon the ground, they spit upon themselves. ~Iroquois~
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I would like to know what happened to people BEFORE Jesus? Anyone care to explain this one, I would be very interested to learn what you have to say.
 Quoting: Lilbabez33


what do you mean. how they were saved. That's easy, they just beleaved God and it was accounted unto them as righteousness. read it n Hebrews
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7078293


thats a good question too..what was going on before jesus..
 Quoting: Aiyanna



I explained in a thread above....THERE WAS NO ONE BEFORE JESUS... PEOPLE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN SAVED BY THE CROSS.. THE CROSS STRETCHES BACKWARD AND FORWARD IN TIME. WE ARE SAVED BY JESUS' SACRIFICE ON THE CROSS. HE FULFILLED THE LAW. THE NEW TESTAMENT FULFILLED THE OLD. THE SAINTS IN THE OLD TESTAMENT WERE SAVED BY THE CROSS...LOOKING FORWARD TO THE CROSS. THE OLD TESTAMENT IS FILLED WITH REFERENCES TO AND PICTURES OF THE CROSS AND JESUS' SACRIFICE, FULFILLING THE LAWS. IT'S THE CROSS OF CHRIST THAT SAVES... FROM THE BEGINNING OF MANKIND.
 Quoting: jusme 8278894




Yes, they believed God and it was accounted unto them for righteousness. The Cross fulfilled all the laws and all the promises and everyone who has ever been saved was saved by grace, by faith in Jesus and what He did on the Cross.
Simple enough for a child to understand, and complicated enough for a genius. For those who believe, no explanation is necessary; for those who do not, no explanation is POSSIBLE.
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GOD's got some explaining to do....to you??? Huh? Think about it....the CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE is going to answer to you?

Sorry, but it is the other way around. People are not thinking clearly on this.

The pot does tell the potter what to do or not do.


 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


But why must we be worthless pots?
 Quoting: Aiyanna



She didn't say worthless.

If you took your time making a "pot", wouldn't you be insulted if someone called it worthless?


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 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 8285306


yes but you missed My point. If i'm just his creation that needs to bow down and shut-up with my questions what kind worth am i? Its not like i'd be attacking him or anything horrible..i just don't understand why this is an accepted form of "fatherly love".
 Quoting: Aiyanna



I have this feeling that there is something in your past where Christians or Christianity has hurt you somehow.

I'm not sure what it is....but there is a real issue that you have against GOD.

You have a sweet spirit...but there is a bitterness deep inside.

I will be praying for you and hope that you someday find the answers you seek.

Don't ever stop looking for truth....it is all that we really have in this life...

blessings to you, Aiyanna.

ag

hf
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It is a metaphor for the dying out of the spirit, which is thought to very slowly disintegrate in an agonizing manner, seeming like eternity.
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GOD's got some explaining to do....to you??? Huh? Think about it....the CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE is going to answer to you?

Sorry, but it is the other way around. People are not thinking clearly on this.

The pot does tell the potter what to do or not do.


 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


But why must we be worthless pots?
 Quoting: Aiyanna



She didn't say worthless.

If you took your time making a "pot", wouldn't you be insulted if someone called it worthless?

Revelation 3:16
So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
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 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 8285306


yes but ...
 Quoting: Aiyanna



Then we agree.

Anything else is between you and your father.


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You Think That You Can Front When Revelation Comes?

You Can't Front On That
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Ok so some questions came into my mind while reading a thread about atheist are fools and etc. Now i'm not technically an atheist but the question is still lingering and in need of an answer!

Here's the thread : Thread: Atheists are fools? (Page 3)

And here was my question that i am digging for an answer for: "If Majority of us will be going to hell for all enternity and burned with fire, and burned with cigarettes, And ass raped by demons etc..etc.. I just can't make sense of this..If we die we leave behind our physical bodies therefore we are spiritual- correct? Then how would i be burned with fire in the spiritual world? Isn't a fire's "burning pain" a physical emotion? So how would i feel -physical- fire burning my spiritual body?" (quoting myself from the thread)

Does anyone know how this will be possible? eyebat
 Quoting: Aiyanna


I personally don't prescribe to the belief in a Hell in the traditional sense. So, sorry, I can't help you there.
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Your not going to burn in hell ,the very worst that can happen to you is that your energy,will be cleansed when you pass and you will loose that part of yourself that is negative.
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clappa
 Quoting: Salt



wrong.

sounds good and nice and all.

but totally not true.

your spirit will live on after you die.

it will not cease.

it is eternal.

seek the truth and you will find it...

if you seek it with all of your heart.
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Your spirit is energy , "your energy" is a part of your soul , you can not hurt or burn energy , think about it !!!
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But why must we be worthless pots?
 Quoting: Aiyanna



She didn't say worthless.

If you took your time making a "pot", wouldn't you be insulted if someone called it worthless?


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 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 8285306


yes but you missed My point. If i'm just his creation that needs to bow down and shut-up with my questions what kind worth am i? Its not like i'd be attacking him or anything horrible..i just don't understand why this is an accepted form of "fatherly love".
 Quoting: Aiyanna



I have this feeling that there is something in your past where Christians or Christianity has hurt you somehow.

I'm not sure what it is....but there is a real issue that you have against GOD.

You have a sweet spirit...but there is a bitterness deep inside.

I will be praying for you and hope that you someday find the answers you seek.

Don't ever stop looking for truth....it is all that we really have in this life...

blessings to you, Aiyanna.

ag

hf
 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


I do have an issue with god. I couldn't explain it if i really tried. It does stem from the old testament tho that i know for sure. Yes finding my truth is very important to me thank you! hf
Humankind has not woven the web of life.
We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves.
All things are bound together.
All things connect.

Chief Seattle, 1854

When all the trees have been cut down,
when all the animals have been hunted,
when all the waters are polluted,
when all the air is unsafe to breathe,
only then will you discover you cannot eat money.

Cree Prophecy

"Our land is everything to us... I will tell you one of the things we remember on our land. We remember that our grandfathers paid for it - with their lives." - John Wooden Leg, Cheyenne

You must teach your children that the ground beneath their feet is the ashes of your grandfathers.
So that they will respect the land, tell your children that the earth is rich with the lives of our kin.
Teach your children what we have taught our children, that the earth is our mother.
Whatever befalls the earth befalls the sons of the earth.
If men spit upon the ground, they spit upon themselves. ~Iroquois~
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Both Aethiests and hyper religious folk are of the same ilk

Extremists who think they are right, only using one hemisphere and end up being totally wrong.

Jesus never taught any of those things. Those were perversions to control the masses, isn't that obvious? The teaching of Yeshua were simple, and benevolent.

He wanted everyone to see that we were children of God. What did the church do? Take the divinity away from the COMMON folk and placed it all on ONE person, who happens to be "dead/gone."

So now you got a bunch of truthers who think they've found Satan and identified him, and stick to their religion, which was ironically enough created by the forces they claim to be against!

What a joke!
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She didn't say worthless.

If you took your time making a "pot", wouldn't you be insulted if someone called it worthless?


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 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 8285306


yes but you missed My point. If i'm just his creation that needs to bow down and shut-up with my questions what kind worth am i? Its not like i'd be attacking him or anything horrible..i just don't understand why this is an accepted form of "fatherly love".
 Quoting: Aiyanna



I have this feeling that there is something in your past where Christians or Christianity has hurt you somehow.

I'm not sure what it is....but there is a real issue that you have against GOD.

You have a sweet spirit...but there is a bitterness deep inside.

I will be praying for you and hope that you someday find the answers you seek.

Don't ever stop looking for truth....it is all that we really have in this life...

blessings to you, Aiyanna.

ag

hf
 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


I do have an issue with god. I couldn't explain it if i really tried. It does stem from the old testament tho that i know for sure. Yes finding my truth is very important to me thank you! hf
 Quoting: Aiyanna


Does it stem from your parents, a church or just the O.T.?

I want you to find THE TRUTH....not YOUR truth....big differance...

you see, it is impossible for everyone to have just 'their truth.'

for instant, there is only one way that our hearts pump through our veins and arteries....we all function the same way...

same thing spiritually....there is only one way our spirits will work correctly....

one truth....for all people.

Jesus is either the son of GOD period....or HE was wasn't.

One truth.....many lies.

hope this helps a little....
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I would like to know what happened to people BEFORE Jesus? Anyone care to explain this one, I would be very interested to learn what you have to say.
 Quoting: Lilbabez33


what do you mean. how they were saved. That's easy, they just beleaved God and it was accounted unto them as righteousness. read it n Hebrews
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thats a good question too..what was going on before jesus..
 Quoting: Aiyanna



I explained in a thread above....THERE WAS NO ONE BEFORE JESUS... PEOPLE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN SAVED BY THE CROSS.. THE CROSS STRETCHES BACKWARD AND FORWARD IN TIME. WE ARE SAVED BY JESUS' SACRIFICE ON THE CROSS. HE FULFILLED THE LAW. THE NEW TESTAMENT FULFILLED THE OLD. THE SAINTS IN THE OLD TESTAMENT WERE SAVED BY THE CROSS...LOOKING FORWARD TO THE CROSS. THE OLD TESTAMENT IS FILLED WITH REFERENCES TO AND PICTURES OF THE CROSS AND JESUS' SACRIFICE, FULFILLING THE LAWS. IT'S THE CROSS OF CHRIST THAT SAVES... FROM THE BEGINNING OF MANKIND.
 Quoting: jusme 8278894


Christ died before the foundation of the world,the cross was the demonstration of this,just a few examples.


REVELATION 13 ("From" can be also translated as "before" in the greek)
8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the LAMB slain from the foundation of the world.

Hebrews 9 (The gospel is clear without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sins)
22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no REMISSION.

2 CORINTHIANS 5 (Old testament believers could not be with God without their sins being paid for,the Bible records many in heaven before the cross)
8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be ABSENT from the body, and to be present with the Lord.


Matthew 17 (This happen before the cross)
1 And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into an high mountain apart,
2 And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light.
3 And, behold, there appeared unto them MOSES and Elias talking with him.


Luke 23 (The thief on the cross,this was prior before the resurrection)
42 And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.
43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in PARADISE.

God has open the eyes of many to this truth in the last couple of years,this was in his timing.
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I explained in a thread above....THERE WAS NO ONE BEFORE JESUS... PEOPLE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN SAVED BY THE CROSS.. THE CROSS STRETCHES BACKWARD AND FORWARD IN TIME. WE ARE SAVED BY JESUS' SACRIFICE ON THE CROSS. HE FULFILLED THE LAW. THE NEW TESTAMENT FULFILLED THE OLD. THE SAINTS IN THE OLD TESTAMENT WERE SAVED BY THE CROSS...LOOKING FORWARD TO THE CROSS. THE OLD TESTAMENT IS FILLED WITH REFERENCES TO AND PICTURES OF THE CROSS AND JESUS' SACRIFICE, FULFILLING THE LAWS. IT'S THE CROSS OF CHRIST THAT SAVES... FROM THE BEGINNING OF MANKIND.



YOU ARE WRONG. Jesus was hung on a pole,tree,stake
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"HELL should be a simple concept to the many scientific minds present here.

Since it is understood that the soul is an energy that cannot die, and that one's consciousness is retained after they shed this earthly body.

Hell, is a REASSIGNMENT of the soul.

In this vast universe of many worlds and systems, your soul(you) could find yourself being born on a planet that is similar to Earth, but with none of the creature comforts that we take for granted here. The entire planet could be a frozen wasteland where just mere survival would be a daily chore. Or, a place of burning torment where the planet is too close to it's sun. Trust me, God is both powerful and creative in getting your soul's attention. And, He would not even have to work hard at it. The work is already done. It would be as simple as you moving from one office building to the next.

But, that was not God's original intention for the human soul. Hell was designed for the Fallen and the original darkness that chose to go against The Father's Will.

This is why God setup specific instructions and a plan to redeem man back to Him after we surrendered control of this planet to Satan. His plan was Jesus Christ. God's ambassador made flesh for mankind.
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get a grip.............hell means a whole in the ground. we all will go there except for a lucky few.
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I'm not the one walking around screaming at people there gonna get raped by demons in the lake of fire..so considering that i got my grip. thanks tho!
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Ok but now you have your answer ........what's the debate? They lie who speak such words to u. Is that so hard to believe?
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Everything is symbolic and you are already in hell.

Look around, every second countless people are being murdered, raped, tortured in every horrible way possible, everyone suffers/pays in different ways.
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Ok so some questions came into my mind while reading a thread about atheist are fools and etc. Now i'm not technically an atheist but the question is still lingering and in need of an answer!

Here's the thread : Thread: Atheists are fools? (Page 3)

And here was my question that i am digging for an answer for: "If Majority of us will be going to hell for all enternity and burned with fire, and burned with cigarettes, And ass raped by demons etc..etc.. I just can't make sense of this..If we die we leave behind our physical bodies therefore we are spiritual- correct? Then how would i be burned with fire in the spiritual world? Isn't a fire's "burning pain" a physical emotion? So how would i feel -physical- fire burning my spiritual body?" (quoting myself from the thread)

Does anyone know how this will be possible? eyebat
 Quoting: Aiyanna


Despite the fact that there is nowhere in the bible that details all the satanic tortures most of mankind will be facing for eternity at the hands of a very loving and merciful compassionate unselfish God...it will happen..you just have tobe a sadistic freak who LONGS to see all the sinners BURN..and you have to talk about it and obsess about it SO MUCH that you even get VISIONS of your favourite tortures..and then you can post these visions here thus reinforcing the torture theme.

And all the tards will beleive it..and in beleiving it will have more visions of it...and in having more visions of it will beleive it more..thus having more obsession with it..thus seeing more visions of it..thus telling more people
about it..making them beleive it more..giving them more visions about it...

And ON and ON and ON


These stupid religitards and their satanic torture loving GOD can go get FUCKED!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8145718



satan Is the father of lies.....and you hit it right on the head .....the so called christians force satins lies down our thoughts so that when the truth comes,you are so turned off by it that you don't even want to here it . But I tell you a TRUTH. It's GOD ALMIGHTY'S turn, to show himself and make the truth known, then you can choose your God.
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I explained in a thread above....THERE WAS NO ONE BEFORE JESUS... PEOPLE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN SAVED BY THE CROSS.. THE CROSS STRETCHES BACKWARD AND FORWARD IN TIME. WE ARE SAVED BY JESUS' SACRIFICE ON THE CROSS. HE FULFILLED THE LAW. THE NEW TESTAMENT FULFILLED THE OLD. THE SAINTS IN THE OLD TESTAMENT WERE SAVED BY THE CROSS...LOOKING FORWARD TO THE CROSS. THE OLD TESTAMENT IS FILLED WITH REFERENCES TO AND PICTURES OF THE CROSS AND JESUS' SACRIFICE, FULFILLING THE LAWS. IT'S THE CROSS OF CHRIST THAT SAVES... FROM THE BEGINNING OF MANKIND.



YOU ARE WRONG. Jesus was hung on a pole,tree,stake


Never said he didn't........The Bible has provide evidence that Christ (GOD) die before the foundation of the world (Re-read the post)I'm sorry,but you have provided nothing but what you were taught and have not disputed the scriptures with scriptural evidence nor have provide one to substantiate this claim.

This doctrine is what the church has taught for many,many years because they knew no other way to explain it,their spiritual eyes were not open to this and many other truth's,everything is in God's timing.

The understanding of God's word did not cease with what the church has taught and ordain as truth since Pentecost,truth has not been idle for hundreds of years.The problem is the church has exalted themselves as the authority over the Bible with their creeds,confessions and doctrines and quit listening to the word of God.

God's people are to be like the "berens" and search the scriptures to find out if these things are true and the believer is always open to correction.

I have "Never" heard a pastor,church,etc.. ever say they were wrong in some area of their belief and they have corrected it,why?

Our worse enemy "Pride"..............
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You Think That You Can Front When Revelation Comes?

You Can't Front On That

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IT'S HERE, NOW
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Re: Explain to me how I'm going to BURN in hell!!
How do you know hot with out cold, light with out dark , love with out hate , good with out bad ectra ectra, there is no hell just experiences negative and positive.We all belong to the collective consiousness.Good bad and indifferent.
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I explained in a thread above....THERE WAS NO ONE BEFORE JESUS... PEOPLE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN SAVED BY THE CROSS.. THE CROSS STRETCHES BACKWARD AND FORWARD IN TIME. WE ARE SAVED BY JESUS' SACRIFICE ON THE CROSS. HE FULFILLED THE LAW. THE NEW TESTAMENT FULFILLED THE OLD. THE SAINTS IN THE OLD TESTAMENT WERE SAVED BY THE CROSS...LOOKING FORWARD TO THE CROSS. THE OLD TESTAMENT IS FILLED WITH REFERENCES TO AND PICTURES OF THE CROSS AND JESUS' SACRIFICE, FULFILLING THE LAWS. IT'S THE CROSS OF CHRIST THAT SAVES... FROM THE BEGINNING OF MANKIND.
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YOU ARE WRONG. Jesus was hung on a pole,tree,stake


Never said he didn't........The Bible has provide evidence that Christ (GOD) die before the foundation of the world (Re-read the post)I'm sorry,but you have provided nothing but what you were taught and have not disputed the scriptures with scriptural evidence nor have provide one to substantiate this claim.

This doctrine is what the church has taught for many,many years because they knew no other way to explain it,their spiritual eyes were not open to this and many other truth's,everything is in God's timing.

The understanding of God's word did not cease with what the church has taught and ordain as truth since Pentecost,truth has not been idle for hundreds of years.The problem is the church has exalted themselves as the authority over the Bible with their creeds,confessions and doctrines and quit listening to the word of God.

God's people are to be like the "berens" and search the scriptures to find out if these things are true and the believer is always open to correction.

I have "Never" heard a pastor,church,etc.. ever say they were wrong in some area of their belief and they have corrected it,why?

Our worse enemy "Pride"..............


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Gods church here's God spew TRUTH every Sabbath......from his mouth!!!
God is alive and well and so is HIS CHURCH. I'm not talking about the god of this world whom all the churches serve.. That's all I have to say abbot that.
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Hell is one of the biggest falsehoods to come out of organized religion.
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Yep, definitely the devil's greatest trick was convincing the world that he and hell do not exist......he's a cunning little devil, isn't he?
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Ok so some questions came into my mind while reading a thread about atheist are fools and etc. Now i'm not technically an atheist but the question is still lingering and in need of an answer!

Here's the thread : Thread: Atheists are fools? (Page 3)

And here was my question that i am digging for an answer for: "If Majority of us will be going to hell for all enternity and burned with fire, and burned with cigarettes, And ass raped by demons etc..etc.. I just can't make sense of this..If we die we leave behind our physical bodies therefore we are spiritual- correct? Then how would i be burned with fire in the spiritual world? Isn't a fire's "burning pain" a physical emotion? So how would i feel -physical- fire burning my spiritual body?" (quoting myself from the thread)

Does anyone know how this will be possible? eyebat
 Quoting: Aiyanna


You're getting caught up in what other people think and interpret about the Bible and the afterlife. Maybe instead, you should take a step back to discern the facts.

To me, it seems that this is the crux that everyone bases their belief on God. Whether or not Heaven and Hell exists... In my honest opinion this obviously plays into a material and emotional attachment the individual has while experiencing this material existence.

Nevertheless, many would want to hope that Heaven is real because they wish to see their lost loved ones on the other-side. On the reverse, they feel that if they buy into Heaven, they have to buy into Hell too and that if they are a bad Christian - they'll go to a lake of fire for ever and ever and ever Amen.

But again, what has shaped this perception of the afterlife? What purpose does fearing death have? No one wants to die, we don't know what is on the otherside, even though there are many who have claimed to have gone there or what have you.

REGARDLESS, to me, Heaven and Hell is as simple as Christ had explained it. Heaven and Hell is found within, to find atonement, or At-one-ment, to be at peace - to no longer fight the inner demons and accepting who you are. This is heaven, it is a state of mind. Like a monk at a monastry who meditates daily - this is the same process. To reach enlightenment.

Hell - is to me, not a place you go, but again a state of mind. Hell is to live each day with a burning regret inside. To never let go of your mistakes. Christ taught that we are all born of Sin and that we are all imperfect in the eyes of the Lord.
Indeed this would be true because we are sinful lusty creatures. I have no problem accepting what I am. Again though, those who regret and fight the tide, never accepting and yet live on to carry their grudge, they are burning inside. They are in hell. As their miserable world spirals out of control, who will save their fall?

Again, step back and think about the information you receive. Then, the easiest thing to ask yourself is what purpose does this serve? If you find yourself answering by saying either fear or control, then that is MANS influence. God gave you freewill.
 Quoting: Children of the Atom


That just made sense. I don't know how and why but this clicked together some stuff i have read..and made alot of sense..I don't know how to explain it but.."imperfect in the eyes of the lord"..this is something in my mind that has never left. It is the root of all the paths for me from the beginning.
 Quoting: Aiyanna


hf

Glad to hear.

I think people wish to complicate the issue, obviously the work of darkness and ignorance. Regardless, live by the golden rule - harm none - have faith for love,live and God.
Live well and let be what will be.

If you can do that, life becomes a lot easier.

I must admit... I myself, have not been able to come to this completely. I fall often, far too many times to count. But again, all of this is already known.

As I said, I am glad this has helped you some. At-least you are open minded to different perspectives. A lot of people, it seems to me, attempt to justify their belief by fighting others. As if by feeling 'right' for a moment, justifies their belief system.
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But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.
Luke 12:5

But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death" (Revelation 21:8)







He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

john 3:18


Hell is real, i would suggest avoiding it.
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.. Hot .. all I can say :D

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I explained in a thread above....THERE WAS NO ONE BEFORE JESUS... PEOPLE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN SAVED BY THE CROSS.. THE CROSS STRETCHES BACKWARD AND FORWARD IN TIME. WE ARE SAVED BY JESUS' SACRIFICE ON THE CROSS. HE FULFILLED THE LAW. THE NEW TESTAMENT FULFILLED THE OLD. THE SAINTS IN THE OLD TESTAMENT WERE SAVED BY THE CROSS...LOOKING FORWARD TO THE CROSS. THE OLD TESTAMENT IS FILLED WITH REFERENCES TO AND PICTURES OF THE CROSS AND JESUS' SACRIFICE, FULFILLING THE LAWS. IT'S THE CROSS OF CHRIST THAT SAVES... FROM THE BEGINNING OF MANKIND.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1548794



YOU ARE WRONG. Jesus was hung on a pole,tree,stake


Never said he didn't........The Bible has provide evidence that Christ (GOD) die before the foundation of the world (Re-read the post)I'm sorry,but you have provided nothing but what you were taught and have not disputed the scriptures with scriptural evidence nor have provide one to substantiate this claim.

This doctrine is what the church has taught for many,many years because they knew no other way to explain it,their spiritual eyes were not open to this and many other truth's,everything is in God's timing.






The understanding of God's word did not cease with what the church has taught and ordain as truth since Pentecost,truth has not been idle for hundreds of years.The problem is the church has exalted themselves as the authority over the Bible with their creeds,confessions and doctrines and quit listening to the word of God.

God's people are to be like the "berens" and search the scriptures to find out if these things are true and the believer is always open to correction.



I have "Never" heard a pastor,church,etc.. ever say they were wrong in some area of their belief and they have corrected it,why?

Our worse enemy "Pride"..............






Gods church admits openly and often she's wrong. Because HE is working with weak vessels and the CHURCH of GOD know's that truth above all. Without GOD ALMIGHTY we are nothing
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Re: Explain to me how I'm going to BURN in hell!!
Hell is one of the biggest falsehoods to come out of organized religion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8245681


.. to scare people into order .. as people use it as a tool to scare children ..

"are you going to Heaven or HELL?!" .. creepy sign on the side of the highway .. Go Away!!
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