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Is there ANYTHING that GOD is NOT in control of?..is there anything in which God does NOT have the final say?

 
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Is there ANYTHING that GOD is NOT in control of?..is there anything in which God does NOT have the final say?
IF there is..his WILL is limited..and so is his strength and power.

Therefore he is NOT all powerful and his will means NOTHING because our measly and weak HUMAN will overrides HIS will.

So everything he did..dying on the cross ect..was all for NOTHING because in the end he saved only a FEW out of UNTOLD BILLIONS.

Yeah..mission accomplished..NOT!

And whats worse..all those he COULD NOT SAVE because HIS WILL was not strong enough..and his LOVE failed to redeem them..THEY..are all going to be tortured alive forever in a fit of holy RAGE at being unable to save them..so instead..he TORTURES them forever..because he could NOT GET HIS WAY and SAVE MANKIND like he STATED he would do.

FAIL!

FOLLOW THE GOD THAT FAILED!!!
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No one knows the mind of God.
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A one star vote is the BEST answer so far?

Cmon religitards..why cant you answer this?

Oh..thats right..it does NOT COMPUTE..and you are ASHAMED you actually BELEIVE THIS!

You lot actually beleive that GOD FAILED and will burn most of his creatures alive forever.

Sad.
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Re: Is there ANYTHING that GOD is NOT in control of?..is there anything in which God does NOT have the final say?
Absolutely everything. BTW, there are many gods. Many Supernatural beings.
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Re: Is there ANYTHING that GOD is NOT in control of?..is there anything in which God does NOT have the final say?
IF there is..his WILL is limited..and so is his strength and power.

Therefore he is NOT all powerful and his will means NOTHING because our measly and weak HUMAN will overrides HIS will.

So everything he did..dying on the cross ect..was all for NOTHING because in the end he saved only a FEW out of UNTOLD BILLIONS.

Yeah..mission accomplished..NOT!

And whats worse..all those he COULD NOT SAVE because HIS WILL was not strong enough..and his LOVE failed to redeem them..THEY..are all going to be tortured alive forever in a fit of holy RAGE at being unable to save them..so instead..he TORTURES them forever..because he could NOT GET HIS WAY and SAVE MANKIND like he STATED he would do.

FAIL!

FOLLOW THE GOD THAT FAILED!!!
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Is this another one of those threads where you say the opposite of what you mean?

Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
(Matthew 6:10)
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Re: Is there ANYTHING that GOD is NOT in control of?..is there anything in which God does NOT have the final say?
Nope. God controls everything. That includes a person's decision to believe in him or deny him. That also includes the angle and velocity at which a pebble falls from the side of a hill, and the wind that caused it.
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Re: Is there ANYTHING that GOD is NOT in control of?..is there anything in which God does NOT have the final say?
God never fails and HIs Love never dies. We are given chance after chance to repent and turn to Him, He will not fail. And He will have the final say to all of this world. It's up to us to make the right choice and side with Him, which is the side of Love and His Love never dies. Everything is in His control..
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God never fails and HIs Love never dies. We are given chance after chance to repent and turn to Him, He will not fail. And He will have the final say to all of this world. It's up to us to make the right choice and side with Him, which is the side of Love and His Love never dies. Everything is in His control..
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Yeah true..I mean..look at all those mega churches with on fire pastors bringing the multitudes to christ in the middle eastern countries..LOTS of them...just about every muslim child has been shown the gospel....


NOT!

But Gods got a remedy for all those UNFORTUNATE enough to have been chosen BY GOD to be born into a religion or culture that never hears about jesus..

Thats RIGHT..he is going to BURN THEM ALIVE forever...

After all..HE is in control..so HE CHOSE them to be BURNT ALIVE FOREVER.

OH THE LOVE!
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feedtroll

GLP isn't for little kids

If you need attention that badly, go troll Yahoo! or YouTube comments

Or even better, try a specifically religious forum
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feedtroll

GLP isn't for little kids

If you need attention that badly, go troll Yahoo! or YouTube comments

Or even better, try a specifically religious forum
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This is rich.

YOu tards TROLL CONSTANTLY with this sort of thing.

But when someone asks a question you CANT ANSWER or EXPLAIN..you call "TROLL"

Bunch of stupid idiots.

Cant even answer for YOUR OWN DOCTRINES.

WHY??

Ashamed or something?

Hate it when people KNOW what it is you TRULY BELEIVE?

Cant handle people KNOWING just how FUCKED IN THE HEAD your doctrines truly are??

You are so stupid and brainwahsed you cant even SEE it.
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Re: Is there ANYTHING that GOD is NOT in control of?..is there anything in which God does NOT have the final say?
God never fails and HIs Love never dies. We are given chance after chance to repent and turn to Him, He will not fail. And He will have the final say to all of this world. It's up to us to make the right choice and side with Him, which is the side of Love and His Love never dies. Everything is in His control..
 Quoting: Lion of Judah


Yeah true..I mean..look at all those mega churches with on fire pastors bringing the multitudes to christ in the middle eastern countries..LOTS of them...just about every muslim child has been shown the gospel....
NOT!

But Gods got a remedy for all those UNFORTUNATE enough to have been chosen BY GOD to be born into a religion or culture that never hears about jesus..

Thats RIGHT..he is going to BURN THEM ALIVE forever...

OH THE LOVE!
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YOU FAIL OP -

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I am allowed to do anything--but not everything is good for you. 1 Corinthians 10:23
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Imaginary characters can not affect actual reality.

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feedtroll

GLP isn't for little kids

If you need attention that badly, go troll Yahoo! or YouTube comments

Or even better, try a specifically religious forum
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1155040


This is rich.

YOu tards TROLL CONSTANTLY with this sort of thing.

But when someone asks a question you CANT ANSWER or EXPLAIN..you call "TROLL"

Bunch of stupid idiots.

Cant even answer for YOUR OWN DOCTRINES.

WHY??

Ashamed or something?

Hate it when people KNOW what it is you TRULY BELEIVE?

Cant handle people KNOWING just how FUCKED IN THE HEAD your doctrines truly are??

You are so stupid and brainwahsed you cant even SEE it.
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Sorry, not my doctrines, I'm agnostic

You seem a bit off-base calling someone else "stupid and brainwashed" when you automatically assume that anyone who disagrees with you is a Judeochristian or Biblical Theist.

You're using ad hominem insults and arguing with strangers about something so childish and inoccuous, I assumed you were a kid trolling for attention

So far I have no reason to believe otherwise
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Re: Is there ANYTHING that GOD is NOT in control of?..is there anything in which God does NOT have the final say?
Let's just say God gave us free will, we make our own decisions. Let's just say Jesus came to earth and died for our sins, so we can still be accepted into the Kingdom of God although we live a life of sin. Let's pretend there is a higher force, a center, an almighty force, and we call him God, and he is a mad cool dude who accepts things for what they are and shows mercy for those who feel sorry for their sins. You can call your God whatever you want, and you can believe in anything you want, but the truth is we should all treat others the way we'd like to be treated, be helpful, humble, compassionate and forgiving. You are asking a question about something you don't believe in? That's kind of like me asking..."how come santa clause doesn't give me presents for christmas"? I mean come on i've been a good boy and I just don't get it, everyone says santa is coming for christmas but he never does! As silly as it may sound to you, it is the same thing, Santa doesn't come around and bring gifts right? And God doesn't exist right? So go ahead and answer that question OP, do you believe in God? Funny thing is, I seriously doubt there is ONE person on this planet who lays their head on the pillow at night and thinks to themselves, "ahhh man, another day, up-well one day closer to ash and absolutely nothingness." I'm kind of leaning more towards the fact that every single soul on this planet is just that, a soul, and we all know what the deal is and what the real is. I say good luck to you and God bless.
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Your whole premise is wrong.
You assume God's goal is to save everyone and if He doesn't then He fails.

Nothing God does can compromise His holiness. The extension of salvation to a lost and sinful world is merely His grace and mercy in action.

But He has never and will never compromise His holiness and glory.
If everyone rejected Christ, oh well. But He's still holy.

Your trolling is lame and your 'God' knowledge is embarassing.

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Be the change you want the World to be. Be someone that makes you happy.
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Your whole premise is wrong.
You assume God's goal is to save everyone and if He doesn't then He fails.

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For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.
(1 Timothy 4:10)
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Re: Is there ANYTHING that GOD is NOT in control of?..is there anything in which God does NOT have the final say?
Your whole premise is wrong.
You assume God's goal is to save everyone and if He doesn't then He fails.

Nothing God does can compromise His holiness. The extension of salvation to a lost and sinful world is merely His grace and mercy in action.

But He has never and will never compromise His holiness and glory.
If everyone rejected Christ, oh well. But He's still holy.

Your trolling is lame and your 'God' knowledge is embarassing.
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Most people dont REJECT God as such..they just have a HARD TIME beleiving something so LOVING can at the same time TORTURE BILLIONS of people forever NON STOP simply because they had a hard time BELEVING in him.

WHO WOULD want to follow a God whos MAIN PURPOSE of creation (STATISTICALLY SPEAKING) was to burn MOST of his creatures ALIVE forewver.

If that was NOT HIS PLAN..then WHY does he DO IT?

Cant he find a way to NOT TORTURE PEOPLE??

Or is he FORCED AGAINST HIS WILL to inflict SO MUCH MISERY?
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Re: Is there ANYTHING that GOD is NOT in control of?..is there anything in which God does NOT have the final say?
Your whole premise is wrong.
You assume God's goal is to save everyone and if He doesn't then He fails.

Nothing God does can compromise His holiness. The extension of salvation to a lost and sinful world is merely His grace and mercy in action.

But He has never and will never compromise His holiness and glory.
If everyone rejected Christ, oh well. But He's still holy.

Your trolling is lame and your 'God' knowledge is embarassing.
 Quoting: snarky74



Amen.
Why is it called "Common Sense" when it isn't that common?
I like to think I have that "Rare Sense"
Yea, that's the ticket.
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"Is there ANYTHING that GOD is NOT in control of?"

Your Free Will
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Your whole premise is wrong.
You assume God's goal is to save everyone and if He doesn't then He fails.

Nothing God does can compromise His holiness. The extension of salvation to a lost and sinful world is merely His grace and mercy in action.

But He has never and will never compromise His holiness and glory.
If everyone rejected Christ, oh well. But He's still holy.

Your trolling is lame and your 'God' knowledge is embarassing.
 Quoting: snarky74



Amen.
 Quoting: LucaChuchetta


Its always SO EASY to say an "AMEN"..

Try answering this then..it may TAX your brain...''


Most people dont REJECT God as such..they just have a HARD TIME beleiving something so LOVING can at the same time TORTURE BILLIONS of people forever NON STOP simply because they had a hard time BELEVING in him.

WHO WOULD want to follow a God whos MAIN PURPOSE of creation (STATISTICALLY SPEAKING) was to burn MOST of his creatures ALIVE forewver.

If that was NOT HIS PLAN..then WHY does he DO IT?

Cant he find a way to NOT TORTURE PEOPLE??

Or is he FORCED AGAINST HIS WILL to inflict SO MUCH MISERY?
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"Is there ANYTHING that GOD is NOT in control of?"

Your Free Will
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Where DO we get free will?

We are born WITHOUT a chooice..into a culture we DID NO CHOOSE..into a religion we are RAISED with against our will..

And for all those who never heard of Jesus in the last six thousand years..what of them?

Thay gonna burn TOO because they never heard of him?

WHERE IS THE FREE WILL?
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"Is there ANYTHING that GOD is NOT in control of?"

Your Free Will
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Psalms says the wicked are estranged from the womb. . .I'm sure they *chose* that, right?
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No one knows the mind of God.
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God is onlt one half of a bipolar energy called electricity friend ..so doesn't even have a mind, soul or conscience.

But it doesn't change much really so keep praying and believing in something that continues to create and destroy without purpose or meaning
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Re: Is there ANYTHING that GOD is NOT in control of?..is there anything in which God does NOT have the final say?
IF there is..his WILL is limited..and so is his strength and power.

Therefore he is NOT all powerful and his will means NOTHING because our measly and weak HUMAN will overrides HIS will.

So everything he did..dying on the cross ect..was all for NOTHING because in the end he saved only a FEW out of UNTOLD BILLIONS.

Yeah..mission accomplished..NOT!

And whats worse..all those he COULD NOT SAVE because HIS WILL was not strong enough..and his LOVE failed to redeem them..THEY..are all going to be tortured alive forever in a fit of holy RAGE at being unable to save them..so instead..he TORTURES them forever..because he could NOT GET HIS WAY and SAVE MANKIND like he STATED he would do.

FAIL!

FOLLOW THE GOD THAT FAILED!!!
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he cant make you choose to be a good person. that would make him a dictator.
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When a troll is identified as such, it loses its powers

Fairytale 101

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God's Plan = God's Own Glory.

Romans 9:14-24 Read It - Accept It

God Is Holy

Romans 9:14

What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God?
God forbid.

For God says to Moses,
I will have mercy on whom Iwill have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
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"Is there ANYTHING that GOD is NOT in control of?"

Your Free Will
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WHERE IS THE FREE WILL?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8282087



You're exercising it right now. Look at it this way. You live with a bitch who hates your guts, does nothing but drain your bank account, pawn all your stuff, drink all your beer and throw dishes at you. Are you going to put up with that or toss the bitch out on her ass? We both know she's gone, and what happens to her after that is not your problem and you're not taking her back. You gave her a chance and she blew it.

God is no different, he doesn't want jerkoffs living in his house with him. In the 70 or so years you live here it's your job to prove to him whether you're a jerkoff or not. That's what life's all about.

He's not even asking you to be perfect. All he wants to know is are you someone he can work with. Can you take orders if he decides to give you one. And do you respect him enough to carry them out instead of flipping him off behind his back then going off to take a nap. he's not asking for much, just a little loyalty between friends.
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God is in Total Control
He is Letting Sin Run its Ultimate Course So nobody would be Stupid enough to Embrace it Again Like Lucifer Did

If God only saves a Few out of Untold Billions,

Well, Those Untold Billions Must prefer Evil to Good in their Hearts.

God Does Not Torture, that's Satan, He takes pleasure in people's Suffering

Satan doesn't Control The Grave, God Does

Here's the Genealogy for Earth and its People's

God Creates Perfect Earth:
Mankind falls into Sin taking the Earth with it:
Jesus Offer's Himself to All who want an escape from Sin:
Jesus Returns Breaking the Earth:
Satan Walks on a Broken Earth for 1,000Yrs:
Lake of Fire Where Satan and Sinners get thrown into:
New Earth combined with New Heaven:

Obviously The Lake of Fire Is not Here Yet Nor is it forever.


www.thetruthabouthell.net
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OP,

You consistenly lash out at God.

You DO have the choice to get to know Him and find the knowledge you are seeking, but it appears that you would rather ACCUSE Him, then simply ask Him to come to you.

It is simple. ASK Him with an honest heart, ASK Him to show you that He is real. Then when He does, close your lips and let Him lead you in learning, let Jesus become the teacher to you that you need. No man can tell you.

Hail - takes away the refuges of LIES

Famine - God's words will be absent; you will die of thirst for them.

Do you see that things aren't what they appear to be????? They ONLY become unsealed when YOU make the effort.

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