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NH is coming up in just a few days (10th). Iowa was just a preference poll. Delegates won't be decided for months. NH is the first primary where delegate votes are at stake.

The good news is Paul is climbing. Mittens had a huge lead (as expected; he is gov of Mass and owns a house in NH) but now his lead is down to 14%. A strong second by Paul would be fantastic. Santorum is rising as well (ugh - please MSM, a little scrutiny here). The bad news is that NH is famous for vote fraud but hopefully with vote monitoring, we will be able to bring some of the fraud to light.

Romney 38%
Paul 24%
Santorum 11%

I just can't help following it all ...

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Graph of poll results here: [link to media.washtimes.com]

Poll: Ron Paul surges, Mitt Romney dips in New Hampshire

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Re: NH: Ron Paul closing gap in new Zogby poll - Surging in the latest polls!
For the sake of completeness, I will also mention that Suffolk University (Boston) has Romney winning 41 % followed by Ron Paul (18 %), Santorum (8 %), Gingrich (7 %) and Huntsman (7 %).

Personally, I think this poll coming straight out of Mittenworld is the most cooked so I pay more attention to the others.
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After the frauds in Iowa I can only hope N.H. runs an honest election !!
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i love it how they cut this soldiers mic after they realize he's not the typical dumb f*ck who sounds like an idiot when attempting to answer a question / explain their position

this soldier is facing discipline now for giving a speech at a political rally, particularly because he spoke while in uniform (i can't really fault the military for this, however)
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After the frauds in Iowa I can only hope N.H. runs an honest election !!
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So many irregularities coming out! Frankly, I was surprised that so many things could happen in a so-called transparent vote. It really disgusted me and the worst part were the Iowa citizenry, many of who waited to be told how to vote and then voted as a block for Santorum.

Still, there are good Iowans - like yourself - that I very much appreciate. Just not enough.

Btw, what ever came of the vote count comparison? Didn't every take pictures to record the votes? At least we can scrutinize that aspect of the irregularities. The last I heard, Paul's camp was not releasing the independent count. What happened to that independent website that was doing an independent count?

PS - my recollection of NH 2008 was there was a lot of fraud. That woman from bbv followed a van that ran off with some of the ballot boxes, apparently planning to tamper with the contents. She videotaped it. There were a lot of incidents.

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i love it how they cut this soldiers mic after they realize he's not the typical dumb f*ck who sounds like an idiot when attempting to answer a question / explain their position

this soldier is facing discipline now for giving a speech at a political rally, particularly because he spoke while in uniform (i can't really fault the military for this, however)
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Screw Mitt Romney. The corporate poster boy!!!

They did cut the soldier short. Wolf could have added that Paul receives the largest percentage of military support in his propaganda piece.

Guess they do not support the military on CNN.


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Yep, the good 'ol Iowa folks in my area pretty much get their marching orders from their churches and vote for the one who claims they will smite all of Israels enemies, ban abortion and same sex marraige and above all they have to have the Shaun Hannity stamp of approval.

You wouldn't believe all the times I heard the older folks at the caucus tell each other how much Ron Paul scares them, as they parrot the major media. My caucus went over 50% for Santorum, all because of the push by the media and spin put out against Paul.
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Yep, the good 'ol Iowa folks in my area pretty much get their marching orders from their churches and vote for the one who claims they will smite all of Israels enemies, ban abortion and same sex marraige and above all they have to have the Shaun Hannity stamp of approval.

You wouldn't believe all the times I heard the older folks at the caucus tell each other how much Ron Paul scares them, as they parrot the major media. My caucus went over 50% for Santorum, all because of the push by the media and spin put out against Paul.
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Re: NH: Ron Paul closing gap in new Zogby poll - Surging in the latest polls!
There was a new poll out today on politico that put him at 24 % .
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He's doing really well on delegates, which is what matters and why Bachman quit.
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There was a new poll out today on politico that put him at 24 % .
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Yes, that is the Zogby poll. I guess I should have put the percentages in the opening post. Romney 38%, Paul 24% and Santorum 11%.
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He's doing really well on delegates, which is what matters and why Bachman quit.
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Well, no delegates were decided yet, but the Paul camp has supposedly got that covered. I think Bachmann was told to quit so they can put more force into Santorum to challenge Paul for the 2nd spot.
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There was a new poll out today on politico that put him at 24 % .
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Yes, that is the Zogby poll. I guess I should have put the percentages in the opening post. Romney 38%, Paul 24% and Santorum 11%.
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One would have to be totally politically clueless to support Santorum. My God what a loser in every description of the word.

Romney is the double loser from 4 years ago. Nothing new with him. Status Quo.

Clearly, Ron Paul is expressing the sentiment of the silent majority of the country. The brave speak out and give him numbers,... while the meek wimper and cower afraid to vote for the person they truly want. Swayed by taking heads in the MSM to think he can not win. Hello???

Sad state of affairs,...huh Genius??

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There was a new poll out today on politico that put him at 24 % .
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Yes, that is the Zogby poll. I guess I should have put the percentages in the opening post. Romney 38%, Paul 24% and Santorum 11%.
 Quoting: Girl Genius


One would have to be totally politically clueless to support Santorum. My God what a loser in every description of the word.

Romney is the double loser from 4 years ago. Nothing new with him. Status Quo.

Clearly, Ron Paul is expressing the sentiment of the silent majority of the country. The brave speak out and give him numbers,... while the meek wimper and cower afraid to vote for the person they truly want. Swayed by taking heads in the MSM to think he can not win. Hello???

Sad state of affairs,...huh Genius??

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Well, I also supported Paul in 2008 - this is a lot, lot better. But, yes, very sad.

I want to see some dirt come out on Santorum, but hands off it seems. The central planners are hoping to have him overshadow Paul, much as Huckabee did in '08. I am hoping we can make some headway, but the NH primary has been historically corrupt and - as we've seen in Iowa - things have only gotten worse.
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That is encouraging news. It's way past time for people to start voting according fiscal responsibilty and foreign policy instead of social agendas. Even if Paul doesn't get the nod, at least he will have made a small change in peoples thought process.
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Well, I also supported Paul in 2008 - this is a lot, lot better. But, yes, very sad.

I want to see some dirt come out on Santorum, but hands off it seems. The central planners are hoping to have him overshadow Paul, much as Huckabee did in '08. I am hoping we can make some headway, but the NH primary has been historically corrupt and - as we've seen in Iowa - things have only gotten worse.
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I supported Paul last time too.

Well, I found this a little weird when I heard it about Santorum. It does not seem to be a thing many would do, I don't know, what do you think???


~~~Snip~~~

"Named for two archangels, Gabriel Michael was born prematurely, at 20 weeks, on Oct. 11, 1996, and lived two hours outside the womb.

Upon their son's death, Rick and Karen Santorum opted not to bring his body to a funeral home. Instead, they bundled him in a blanket and drove him to Karen's parents' home in Pittsburgh. There, they spent several hours kissing and cuddling Gabriel with his three siblings, ages 6, 4 and 1 1/2. They took photos, sang lullabies in his ear and held a private Mass.

"That's my little guy," Santorum says, pointing to the photo of Gabriel, in which his tiny physique is framed by his father's hand. The senator often speaks of his late son in the present tense. It is a rare instance in which he talks softly....."

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]

I'm sorry, I just find this weird and do not want such a person to rule over me with their finger on the nuke button.

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The guy is a total loon. Insanetorum would be a better name for him. He is a dangerous religious extremist. Unfortunately, that appeals to much of the brain dead masses. What a world we live in.

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They came out with a more positive article title and I updated the link in the OP.
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He's a Soros plant. NO WAY!!!!!
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RP needs to get as many interviews on TV as possible. Let the voters hear it straight from his mouth.
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Yep, the good 'ol Iowa folks in my area pretty much get their marching orders from their churches and vote for the one who claims they will smite all of Israels enemies, ban abortion and same sex marraige and above all they have to have the Shaun Hannity stamp of approval.

You wouldn't believe all the times I heard the older folks at the caucus tell each other how much Ron Paul scares them, as they parrot the major media. My caucus went over 50% for Santorum, all because of the push by the media and spin put out against Paul.
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fucking retards shouldn't be allowed to vote. "Greatest Generation" my ass.
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Yep, the good 'ol Iowa folks in my area pretty much get their marching orders from their churches and vote for the one who claims they will smite all of Israels enemies, ban abortion and same sex marraige and above all they have to have the Shaun Hannity stamp of approval.

You wouldn't believe all the times I heard the older folks at the caucus tell each other how much Ron Paul scares them, as they parrot the major media. My caucus went over 50% for Santorum, all because of the push by the media and spin put out against Paul.
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fucking retards shouldn't be allowed to vote. "Greatest Generation" my ass.
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What a disgrace! You hardly need any hard vote fixing with this type of sheep that can be herded so easily. NH will be a different story. In the Live Free or Die state, the only way they will cheat Paul is by actual manipulation. NH has had lots of issues in the past. Hopefully, we will have plenty of watchers scrutinizing the chain of custody and overall process.
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NH is coming up in just a few days (10th). Iowa was just a preference poll. Delegates won't be decided for months. NH is the first primary where delegate votes are at stake.

The good news is Paul is climbing. Mittens had a huge lead (as expected; he is gov of Mass and owns a house in NH) but now his lead is down to 14%. A strong second by Paul would be fantastic. Santorum is rising as well (ugh - please MSM, a little scrutiny here). The bad news is that NH is famous for vote fraud but hopefully with vote monitoring, we will be able to bring some of the fraud to light.

Romney 38%
Paul 24%
Santorum 11%

I just can't help following it all ...

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[link to www.thestatecolumn.com]

Graph of poll results here: [link to media.washtimes.com]
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The guy is a total loon. Insanetorum would be a better name for him. He is a dangerous religious extremist. Unfortunately, that appeals to much of the brain dead masses. What a world we live in.

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Most defiantly. I have nothing against anyone exploring any type of religion, but, this kind of crazed insanity is not for the general public.

He appeals only to other zealots of which there are many in Iowa,...

Hopefully,...blind religious zealotry will not rule the day.


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Hey OWW people here is your chance to take it to the banker.
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The guy is a total loon. Insanetorum would be a better name for him. He is a dangerous religious extremist. Unfortunately, that appeals to much of the brain dead masses. What a world we live in.

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Most defiantly. I have nothing against anyone exploring any type of religion, but, this kind of crazed insanity is not for the general public.

He appeals only to other zealots of which there are many in Iowa,...

Hopefully,...blind religious zealotry will not rule the day.


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Yeah, me neither. I'm Christian, but I don't believe in organized religions - they are all corrupt. I do go to a local church up the road (mostly to the social gatherings). It is independent and non-denominational. Our pastor is voting for Ron Paul so I know I am in the right place!
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Yeah, me neither. I'm Christian, but I don't believe in organized religions - they are all corrupt. I do go to a local church up the road (mostly to the social gatherings). It is independent and non-denominational. Our pastor is voting for Ron Paul so I know I am in the right place!
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Hey that's cool Genius.

Independent and non-denominational,...

What a righteous concept.


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Hey GG; do you know if they run some of the voting off of computers in NH?

If they do, watch for Mittens and Sanitarium to be in another dead heat.

I really think the PTB will try to make it look like Paul is fading out of the Presidential race and discourage people enough to not "waste" a vote on him.
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Hey GG; do you know if they run some of the voting off of computers in NH?

If they do, watch for Mittens and Sanitarium to be in another dead heat.

I really think the PTB will try to make it look like Paul is fading out of the Presidential race and discourage people enough to not "waste" a vote on him.
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Exactly. Well, if he doesn't make the ticket, I'm just going to write him in. There is no other choice. What a joke.

As far as NH, hang on to your hats, it's going to be a bumpy ride. Paul will need an incredibly strong showing to finish in 2nd. But if he finishes even 3rd (in spite of really finishing solid second as will happen), he will still be in the top tier and move forward.

NH has always been rigged. The question is - can we have a strong enough finish for Paul to make the discrepancy obvious?

From Bev Harris:

New Hampshire uses Black Box Voting for over 90% of its votes (Black Box Voting = concealed vote-counting machines. This violates New Hampshire's own constitution which states that the votes must be counted "in public meeting").

[link to blackboxvoting.org]
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