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no one 35 (OP) User ID: 8103452 United States 01/05/2012 09:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | that would make sense after a year on the meds, but the onset of symptoms was rather quick and intense. I would think tolerance would be more gradual. "Fortune, honour, beauty, youth are but blossoms dying. Wanton pleasures, doting love are but shadows flying." ---Thomas Campion |
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no one 35 (OP) User ID: 8103452 United States 01/05/2012 09:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would love to be med free, and just use medicinal mj, but I am drug tested @ work. Believe me, I've tried every homeopathic remedy out there and my doc is an osteopath who supports and agrees with me on the dangers of big pharma. But it's either this med, or I'd be on disability, and I want to work. I'm a flight attendant & am very active. So in a perfect world I'd take nothing and work but that's not an option, I went with the lesser or many evils. "Fortune, honour, beauty, youth are but blossoms dying. Wanton pleasures, doting love are but shadows flying." ---Thomas Campion |
Bowyn Aerrow User ID: 1527778 United States 01/05/2012 09:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Drug test and opiates at work should not be an issue as long as you have a prescription for X medication. They can test for opiates in general then if found test for specific opiates which they will as long as your file is flagged that you take prescription medications. As for levels, tolerance build up is not always a slow process. One day a full normal dose works, the next suddenly you need more than previously. "My Dog, its full of fleas!" -David Bowwow “A paranoid is someone who knows a little of what's going on. A psychotic is a guy who's just found out what's going on.” - William S. Burroughs |
lordhelpusall User ID: 6803539 United States 01/05/2012 09:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I broke my back a long time ago and the gave me ultram and I took it for years then suddenly started having the same symptoms. Long story short I was having withdraw. I had a spell of my back hurting so I took them on a constant basis. Then when I felt better and stop traking them and started feeling like total crap. But exact same symptoms. Exact. Hot cold weak. I think its withdraw. |
no one 35 (OP) User ID: 8103452 United States 01/05/2012 09:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Drug test and opiates at work should not be an issue as long as you have a prescription for X medication. Quoting: Bowyn Aerrow They can test for opiates in general then if found test for specific opiates which they will as long as your file is flagged that you take prescription medications. As for levels, tolerance build up is not always a slow process. One day a full normal dose works, the next suddenly you need more than previously. I didn't know that about tolerance, thanks for the insight. Opiate use while I'm @ work is strictly forbidden with flight attendants. It's considered a safety position, and it interferes with reaction time in emergency situations, so even with a script I can't take it during working hrs according to the FAA. We have similar rules as the pilots regarding medications while on duty. Sudafed is even prohibited because it alters reaction time. "Fortune, honour, beauty, youth are but blossoms dying. Wanton pleasures, doting love are but shadows flying." ---Thomas Campion |
no one 35 (OP) User ID: 8103452 United States 01/05/2012 09:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I broke my back a long time ago and the gave me ultram and I took it for years then suddenly started having the same symptoms. Long story short I was having withdraw. I had a spell of my back hurting so I took them on a constant basis. Then when I felt better and stop traking them and started feeling like total crap. Quoting: lordhelpusall 6803539 But exact same symptoms. Exact. Hot cold weak. I think its withdraw. So do you still take it? "Fortune, honour, beauty, youth are but blossoms dying. Wanton pleasures, doting love are but shadows flying." ---Thomas Campion |
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no one 35 (OP) User ID: 8103452 United States 01/05/2012 09:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well not ultram they put me on big boy meds. lol much worse withdraw. I take morph 60 mg. and perk. 750mg they will give anyone anything any more. Sad really this world is addicted to something or another. Quoting: lordhelpusall 6803539 Good luck I'm sorry to hear that. That's what I'm trying to avoid, but eventually I will probably be there too. I have the beginnings of degenerative disk disease in C2-C4 from this nightmare. I'd just like as much of normal life as possible before I'm no longer able. My doc laughs, telling me how many people would kill to be offered opiates for life & disability to boot. That all assuming I beat the 75% 5 yr mortality rate for the cancer. So I suppose I'm gonna have to ask my doc to up my dosage? I'm only taking 150 mg/day now. "Fortune, honour, beauty, youth are but blossoms dying. Wanton pleasures, doting love are but shadows flying." ---Thomas Campion |
solar2004 User ID: 7581004 Canada 01/05/2012 09:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With higher energies coming from our galactic center its causing particles to speed up. I cant remember where I got the information but drugs may not have the same effects, effecting tolerance or causing drug sensitivities in those who have never had those problems before. Maybe you are going though withdrawal and ultram just isnt cutting it because your body got use to it too fast. I would even try stopping completely on a day off to see if your side effects get better or worse. If it is worse take a ultram and see if it gets better because tolerance will be lowered even after 2-3 days of no use. But then again you can just placebo yourself into this belief. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6205130 United States 01/05/2012 09:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If it is generic ultram (tramadol), tramadol is actually a racemic mixture.. not all makers of tramadol are equal, some contain more of the isomer that does not work as well. It depends on the pharma company really... Did the pharmacy recently change your brand??? They did that to me when I took meds (i completely weaned myself off ALL RX just in case things get bad and I couldn't get them anyways, I didn't want down time due to WD).. SO, that, or tolerance. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6205130 United States 01/05/2012 09:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | also, there are probably at least a half dozen companies that make the drug, the are NOT all the same,, personal experience tells me that.. Also, tramadol wd is HORRIBLE b/c not only is it an opiod (with opiate wd symptoms), but it also acts in much the same way as antidepressants (like effexor, etc..). The WD is a double edged sword from it.. |
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no one 35 (OP) User ID: 8103452 United States 01/05/2012 10:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | look into the brand of the medicine as well. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6205130 If it is generic ultram (tramadol), tramadol is actually a racemic mixture.. not all makers of tramadol are equal, some contain more of the isomer that does not work as well. It depends on the pharma company really... Did the pharmacy recently change your brand??? They did that to me when I took meds (i completely weaned myself off ALL RX just in case things get bad and I couldn't get them anyways, I didn't want down time due to WD).. SO, that, or tolerance. Wow, I'll check into that. I do get the generic, which the pharmacy claims is the same and it saves me 15 whole dollars per month. Maybe I'll have them change it to the name brand instead. I'd pay $15 to not feel like this for sure. "Fortune, honour, beauty, youth are but blossoms dying. Wanton pleasures, doting love are but shadows flying." ---Thomas Campion |
no one 35 (OP) User ID: 8103452 United States 01/05/2012 10:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With higher energies coming from our galactic center its causing particles to speed up. Quoting: solar2004 I cant remember where I got the information but drugs may not have the same effects, effecting tolerance or causing drug sensitivities in those who have never had those problems before. Maybe you are going though withdrawal and ultram just isnt cutting it because your body got use to it too fast. I would even try stopping completely on a day off to see if your side effects get better or worse. If it is worse take a ultram and see if it gets better because tolerance will be lowered even after 2-3 days of no use. But then again you can just placebo yourself into this belief. That's a possibility too "Fortune, honour, beauty, youth are but blossoms dying. Wanton pleasures, doting love are but shadows flying." ---Thomas Campion |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 8220207 United States 01/05/2012 10:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | History of medicine proves opiates are best pain killers with mininal side effects This is why big pharma poison most opiates with APAP to destroy patient liver Tramadol taken for pain or anti depressant will not cause any damage to internal organs Suddenly taking away patient medicine is not only cruel -it will cause death example-insulin , high blood pressure meds etc Medicines sold in US are mostly repackaged Chinese bulk |
no one 35 (OP) User ID: 8103452 United States 01/05/2012 10:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | also, there are probably at least a half dozen companies that make the drug, the are NOT all the same,, personal experience tells me that.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6205130 Also, tramadol wd is HORRIBLE b/c not only is it an opiod (with opiate wd symptoms), but it also acts in much the same way as antidepressants (like effexor, etc..). The WD is a double edged sword from it.. I've done some reading about the w/d symptoms online & they seem pretty viscious. The seizures especially. I would never go cold turkey off this, it's too risky. But @ the same time, I don't want to get to the point where I have to take handfuls just to maintain a level of pain control either. One blogger said she had w/d symptoms 4 weeks after quiting. Scary. "Fortune, honour, beauty, youth are but blossoms dying. Wanton pleasures, doting love are but shadows flying." ---Thomas Campion |
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