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The male and the female of the cosmos----We are all manifestations of this unity.

 
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I believe that to get in touch with both sides of the brain ,for me a male by sexual labels,besides meditation I have found that doing a few unmanly things,such as instead of watching some sporting event listen to clasical music watch an oprea,ect. bake a cake,sew up a ripped shirt.You see women already have such outlets.Women do the same jobs and most important they get to dress like men and have the social acceptance to put on diffrent hats out in public without condemnation. So do some things female, if need be alone at home .This even releaves stress and the presures of being the manly man .change your hat once in a while
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This seems like good practical stuff.


I agree, just since this thread got my attention I have been tilting my head to the right a little LOLOLOLOOLOLLOLO


I know it is stupid but somehow it feels like I can open up my right side a little when I do it.


Mostly this thread is too deep for me. But appreciate the vision of some of you here so keep it up!
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You'll notice that in Egyptian glyphs and art--the feet and hands are placed in specific positions.

Feet receive and hands give. Feet are feminine and the hands as masculine.

The Egyptians would place the left foot in front of the right foot to symbolize that they were receiving of the right brain, because the right brain controls the left side of the body. Rulers were depicted with one foot further in front of the other for a reason--women were sometimes depicted as having two left hands (giving of the right brain and feminine modality). Egyptologists would tell you that this was a mistake, an error.

Do you think these people would carve these designs on TOMBS and MEMORIALS so haphazardly? It's almost insulting.
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I don't know where else to post this OP , there is some strange thing happening to me lately. I just for the first time saw a drawing of "The Flower Of Life " I drew that picture and painted it in the early 1960's my mother put it up on the wall in the living room . it hung there for 20 years. I also wanted to say that to take the role reversal of changing your own oil or working on a motorcycle The effect would be more pronounced if done in the complete female role dressed as a lady. I can not recall an instance where This was accomplished. I think that would be more in-lighting,more on the subject if interested OP

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i thought that earth would be the mother no?

not trying to say you are wrong, just i'v always heard the earth being referred to as the mother because she hosts the life and the sun being the male because he gives the light needed so on...

correct me if i'm wrong, but wouldn't make more sense if males payed respect to the earth rather than the moon?

on a side note I always hear the moon get referred to as the trickster...
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Both the earth and the moon are feminine.

The earth is our mother, the moon is our mother. Both are sisters and daughters too. It's important to think of the abstract concept, and to not focus upon absolutes.

The moon as a trickster is apt, understanding that the moon is the woman of the night.

The night is a time when the light of the sun is obscured by the turning of the earth--so when we think of the unknown, unseen, it corresponds to the night. Darkness. And, tricks inherently imply stealth, deception. Everything is about INTENT, which is why contrary to popular opinion, the darkness is not our enemy. This is the myth of the so-called New Age movement--light is promoted at the exclusion of the dark. That will never work because life exists due to both, in balance.
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I don't know where else to post this OP , there is some strange thing happening to me lately. I just for the first time saw a drawing of "The Flower Of Life " I drew that picture and painted it in the early 1960's my mother put it up on the wall in the living room . it hung there for 20 years. I also wanted to say that to take the role reversal of changing your own oil or working on a motorcycle The effect would be more pronounced if done in the complete female role dressed as a lady. I can not recall an instance where This was accomplished. I think that would be more in-lighting,more on the subject if interested OP
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Dressing up in a skirt while fixing a car or bike would create stark contrast, yes but it isn't needed. Likewise, a man doesn't have to wear a suit while sewing or cooking, but it would create quite the impression if one did.

What I am meaning to say here is that--how you carry yourself supercedes what you're wearing in manner of clothing. It also trumps the task at hand--no matter how it may be considered to be unmanly or unladylike--loveliness comes through when the male and female are in balance and union together.
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i thought that earth would be the mother no?

not trying to say you are wrong, just i'v always heard the earth being referred to as the mother because she hosts the life and the sun being the male because he gives the light needed so on...

correct me if i'm wrong, but wouldn't make more sense if males payed respect to the earth rather than the moon?

on a side note I always hear the moon get referred to as the trickster...
 Quoting: High Times


Ya, stuff like this is weird for me.

But maybe it is not so literal. More like the qualities of one heavenly body or the other has a feminine or male dominant aspect.

The moon as a trickster. Could be. IDK.

That tttthhhhoooootthhhhhhhh meditation during this last full moon really was powerful for me.

I want to tie into the magic of it, but only if it is a path worth taking.

Do you have any more info on the moon? or where did you hear of the trickster part?
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If we think of the feminine as a place of complete receptivity, then what is the moon?

We would never even know that the moon EXISTS if we could not SEE it. And the only reason we see it is because of the reflection of light from the sun.

As to the phases of the moon--waxing, waning, full and new are important. A full moon is equivalent to fruition. A waning moon is a lessening. Waxing moon is gaining. The new moon is the void.

Let's see how this corresponds to the woman's body.

When ovulation (a process) is taking place, the equivalent would be a waxing moon to the point of culmination (egg is mature and ready to be fertilized) in the full moon. From the first moment of waning moon is the egg having expired and makes it's way to be released from the body. The new moon is equivalent to bleeding--nothing has happened, the body voids the old egg and the cycle repeats itself.

Both of these cycles are exactly 28 days. A woman will really mess herself up if she jacks with hormones, birth control, etc.

The moon has the reputation as the trickster because it resides in darkness and is itself dark. It requires the light of the sun in order to be seen.

Likewise, no one ever learned anything NEW unless it came from the darkness and unknown, and was then illuminated by the conscious mind. For, if it was not in darkness firstly, you would never have needed to learn anew.

Likewise, when you are in your mothers womb, you are being formed in darkness. And when you are born, you are brought to light.
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So let us summarize by concluding that the subconscious mind (feminine) knows everything about you---but it cannot put any of it into words--only the conscious mind can verbalize.
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Is this why romantic love is so indescribable when you actually find it legitimately? Is it then a manifestation of your subconscious mind?

This intrigues me, cause for quite a while I've had pretty strong feelings towards someone, and I haven't always understood why. We've argued and fought, quite bitterly at times in the past, yet.....even when I've wanted to let go I have found I cannot do it. Something won't allow me to, something keeps bringing me back. It hasn't always made much sense, the feelings really can't be put into words, but it's something I can definitely feel in a very definitive way.

Something has been telling me to stay, to not let her go, and really it's something that I sort of felt even from the first time I heard her voice, though perhaps to a lesser extent than I do now with all we've gone through since then, but it was almost like this innate feeling in my heart telling me there was something special about this one. And that feeling has only grown with time.

I never used to understand what it meant when they would tell you that when you find the one, you'd just know, but I think I do now.

All this would have to be coming from my subconscious mind would it not? Would it know more intuitively what is really wanted than the conscious in cases like this?
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Thought I'd repost this since you are back again, sort of got lost in the mix I think. Really curious as to your thoughts on it.

To add to it as well, I find our minds, her and I's, kinda clash at times, how does one find the balance you speak of in how we both think? I kind of struggle with that a bit.

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No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."
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So let us summarize by concluding that the subconscious mind (feminine) knows everything about you---but it cannot put any of it into words--only the conscious mind can verbalize.
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Is this why romantic love is so indescribable when you actually find it legitimately? Is it then a manifestation of your subconscious mind?

This intrigues me, cause for quite a while I've had pretty strong feelings towards someone, and I haven't always understood why. We've argued and fought, quite bitterly at times in the past, yet.....even when I've wanted to let go I have found I cannot do it. Something won't allow me to, something keeps bringing me back. It hasn't always made much sense, the feelings really can't be put into words, but it's something I can definitely feel in a very definitive way.

Something has been telling me to stay, to not let her go, and really it's something that I sort of felt even from the first time I heard her voice, though perhaps to a lesser extent than I do now with all we've gone through since then, but it was almost like this innate feeling in my heart telling me there was something special about this one. And that feeling has only grown with time.

I never used to understand what it meant when they would tell you that when you find the one, you'd just know, but I think I do now.

All this would have to be coming from my subconscious mind would it not? Would it know more intuitively what is really wanted than the conscious in cases like this?
 Quoting: ajk


Thought I'd repost this since you are back again, sort of got lost in the mix I think. Really curious as to your thoughts on it.

To add to it as well, I find our minds, her and I's, kinda clash at times, how does one find the balance you speak of in how we both think? I kind of struggle with that a bit.
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It is not for the subconscious mind to tell you what you want--it will always want what you have programmed it to want.

This is the wildest thing about humanity--people going about completely unaware of their programming. They simply do not know what they are made of--the components of their own mind.

Now, remember when you met this girl how everything was so lovely. You had feelings of euphoria, super-attraction, "love" and all of that. You were excited and happy every time you were in one each others company. All of this emotion creates association through the right brain.

And then when you break up with her, or you guys spend some time away from each other--the right brain responds to triggers. You smell her perfume on a piece of clothing, you see a mutual friend and immediately, it brings to you this longing--for her yes, but only through that associative mechanism. You want those feelings back.

This is why some couples lose the magic--they stay together and events take place that are traumatic or sad or angry--like when you fight. These emotions in turn, create another "program" altogether. It is exactly why two people who were formerly in love can't seem to get along anymore--despite being desperate for one another. The emotion embeds with a trigger--like a phrase or particular word choice--each time it is heard, a person goes on the defensive because their subconscious mind associates it with a fight or insult. So, the two of you wind up in reactive states that you cannot seem to get rid of--and you fight again and again despite your best efforts.

The best thing, in my opinion for a couple to do is to create as many pleasant associations as possible. And when life throws you a fast-ball of tragedy that neither of you can control--take that sad emotion, anger, upset or whatever and transmute it into something special.

Let me see if I can think of an example to better illustrate the point...

You and your girl are at a restaurant having a nice dinner, say it's your anniversary or something. Now, you decide to go to the bar for a quick shot of tequila and peer at the game on the widescreen while she is in the restroom. Your ex happens to be sitting at the bar and proceeds to flirt with you. You're saying your goodnight to your ex and give her a quick hug. While at the same time, your girlfriend has exited the ladies room and witnessed your flirting and the subsequent hug--which was innocent. But your girlfriend does not see this innocence--she is thinking it is your anniversary and how happy you looked at the bar all giggly and elated with your ex.

She begins to make comparisons, etc. and allows her insecurities of her ex cheating on her to define the situation with you. You both get in the car and proceed to fight. She cries. You get angry because you enjoyed the exchange in innocence and had none of the thoughts your ex is projecting onto you--that you don't love her, you're dishonest, a player, etc.

Now, the two of you have a mixed bag of emotions for the evening. What was initially romance and intimacy has turned to anger and frustration, sadness. So you both get over it and move on.

One day, you guys decide to stop in for sushi. The same kind of sushi you had on that infamous night. Suddenly, your girlfriend is sullen and feels lonely--she doesn't even know why! She tries to get your intimate attention but indirectly. You're confused as to this sudden neediness and so do not know how to react. The feelings being triggered here are due to the programming set into place on that anniversary night.

Likewise, five years down the road when you've broken up and you're playing poker with the guys, drinking tequila. After the night is over, even though you swore to yourself that you would never call her again--you cannot help yourself and leave a drunken "I need and miss you" voicemail on her phone.

The impulses we have we do not often understand--this is a result of the subconscious mind knowing something that you don't. So, when a stimuli triggers an emotion--people just go with it instead of parsing out WHY they feel a certain way and purposefully re-directing the subconscious with the use of another emotion associated with the same trigger, which in this case was the sushi and tequila.

Does that explain it?

Everything you have known of this girl, is embedded through emotion in the right brain. you cannot escape it, you can only transform it by creating new emotion with that associative trigger.

Sorry to ramble!
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I believe that to get in touch with both sides of the brain ,for me a male by sexual labels,besides meditation I have found that doing a few unmanly things,such as instead of watching some sporting event listen to clasical music watch an oprea,ect. bake a cake,sew up a ripped shirt.You see women already have such outlets.Women do the same jobs and most important they get to dress like men and have the social acceptance to put on diffrent hats out in public without condemnation. So do some things female, if need be alone at home .This even releaves stress and the presures of being the manly man .change your hat once in a while
 Quoting: plurbus




This seems like good practical stuff.


I agree, just since this thread got my attention I have been tilting my head to the right a little LOLOLOLOOLOLLOLO


I know it is stupid but somehow it feels like I can open up my right side a little when I do it.


Mostly this thread is too deep for me. But appreciate the vision of some of you here so keep it up!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5859380


You'll notice that in Egyptian glyphs and art--the feet and hands are placed in specific positions.

Feet receive and hands give. Feet are feminine and the hands as masculine.

The Egyptians would place the left foot in front of the right foot to symbolize that they were receiving of the right brain, because the right brain controls the left side of the body. Rulers were depicted with one foot further in front of the other for a reason--women were sometimes depicted as having two left hands (giving of the right brain and feminine modality). Egyptologists would tell you that this was a mistake, an error.

Do you think these people would carve these designs on TOMBS and MEMORIALS so haphazardly? It's almost insulting.
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Dated, but relevant:

Now, Mr. Durville found by repeated experiments that all the right side of a sensitive subject is strongly influenced by the positive pole of the Magnet which produces contraction, repulsion and excitation; while, on the contrary, the other pole relaxes, attracts and calms the same side. The Austral pole of the Magnet presented within about 4 inches of the forehead of the subject, repulses him and puts him to sleep; while the left hand attracts and awakens him. It is evident, then, that the positive pole of the Magnet and the right hand are poles of the same name; and, if the Austral pole of the Magnet is positive, then the Boreal or Northern pole of the Earth must be negative. The physical laws of the Human Magnetism are consequently identical with those governing the actions of the Magnets.

The Human body represents three horse-shoe Magnets, two of them having the neutral point at the summit of the head and the third in an inverted position to that of the two first ones. The axis the most important divides us laterally from right to left, the other from the forepart to the back part of the body. The first horse-shoe Magnet has its neutral point at the summit of the head, and its extremities or poles at the right hand and the left hand, the right hand being the positive, and the left hand the negative pole.

The second horse-shoe Magnet has also its neutral point at the summit of the head, and the extremites or poles of its two branches are the right and the left foot, the right foot being positive and the left foot negative.

The third horse-shoe Magnet, the one in an inverted position, has its neutral point at the perineum and the extremities of its branches are the forehead and the occiput. The forehead being positive and the occiput negative.
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from SS' paradigm transformation thread:

On certain Egyptian hieroglyphics we see depictions of “characters” with two “left hands”, holding an ankh with the left “left hand”. The left hands depict the willingness to humbly accept gifts of Grace, they also represent two “female” DNA strands. The ankh is held by the ring, which represents the Grace or the Light. It’s symbolic, for the ankh is in all of us.

Left hand as Air is expansive, the right hand as Water is more compressive than Air. We receive a gift of Grace, we receive the Truth spoken through the Air via our left hand. We share the Truth, the Word, with our right hand (as Water), through the structures that our thought constructs form in the Water; Love structured Water. The Water that stores the Light of the Truth is within us. As in the hieroglyphs, when our right hand is as a left hand (Air) then we gift the Light in return, through our thoughts and spoken word.
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i thought that earth would be the mother no?

not trying to say you are wrong, just i'v always heard the earth being referred to as the mother because she hosts the life and the sun being the male because he gives the light needed so on...

correct me if i'm wrong, but wouldn't make more sense if males payed respect to the earth rather than the moon?

on a side note I always hear the moon get referred to as the trickster...
 Quoting: High Times


Both the earth and the moon are feminine.

The earth is our mother, the moon is our mother. Both are sisters and daughters too. It's important to think of the abstract concept, and to not focus upon absolutes.

The moon as a trickster is apt, understanding that the moon is the woman of the night.

The night is a time when the light of the sun is obscured by the turning of the earth--so when we think of the unknown, unseen, it corresponds to the night. Darkness. And, tricks inherently imply stealth, deception. Everything is about INTENT, which is why contrary to popular opinion, the darkness is not our enemy. This is the myth of the so-called New Age movement--light is promoted at the exclusion of the dark. That will never work because life exists due to both, in balance.
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okay thanks for that insight, ill take that into consideration, now take the time to see it in this light, imagine the moon was not always there, it is a drifter and drifted till it eventually came here, imagine that before the moon came females didn't have a menstrual cycle, imagine that before the moon came, everything was unaffected by it, in true balance.

so in regards to the moon being a trickster, imagine it deciding to stay around because it liked it here but no one would want it to stay if they knew it was the moon affecting
them so adversely, so it decides to become their mother.

as you say don't focus upon the absolutes, but i had to tell a story to try explain what i mean.

it seems a little strange to just accept that their are two mothers.
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i thought that earth would be the mother no?

not trying to say you are wrong, just i'v always heard the earth being referred to as the mother because she hosts the life and the sun being the male because he gives the light needed so on...

correct me if i'm wrong, but wouldn't make more sense if males payed respect to the earth rather than the moon?

on a side note I always hear the moon get referred to as the trickster...
 Quoting: High Times


Both the earth and the moon are feminine.

The earth is our mother, the moon is our mother. Both are sisters and daughters too. It's important to think of the abstract concept, and to not focus upon absolutes.

The moon as a trickster is apt, understanding that the moon is the woman of the night.

The night is a time when the light of the sun is obscured by the turning of the earth--so when we think of the unknown, unseen, it corresponds to the night. Darkness. And, tricks inherently imply stealth, deception. Everything is about INTENT, which is why contrary to popular opinion, the darkness is not our enemy. This is the myth of the so-called New Age movement--light is promoted at the exclusion of the dark. That will never work because life exists due to both, in balance.
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okay thanks for that insight, ill take that into consideration, now take the time to see it in this light, imagine the moon was not always there, it is a drifter and drifted till it eventually came here, imagine that before the moon came females didn't have a menstrual cycle, imagine that before the moon came, everything was unaffected by it, in true balance.

so in regards to the moon being a trickster, imagine it deciding to stay around because it liked it here but no one would want it to stay if they knew it was the moon affecting
them so adversely, so it decides to become their mother.

as you say don't focus upon the absolutes, but i had to tell a story to try explain what i mean.

it seems a little strange to just accept that their are two mothers.
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I'm sorry, but I failed to explain this abstract concept clearly. Otherwise, it would not seem so odd that both represent the feminine and as such, mothers, daughters, etc.

If females did not have a menstrual cycle, none of us would be able to reproduce.

Let me try it this way...

If the moon was a daughter, the darkness of space would be it's mother. If the moon was a mother, the darkness of space would be it's grandmother.
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We would never even know that the moon EXISTS if we could not SEE it. And the only reason we see it is because of the reflection of light from the sun.

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on the OP: close. mostly tl;dr

i suggest you spend a bit of time with the Tarot Major XIII... u r missing something crucial in the feminine, i believe.


"This is the Mystery of Babylon, the Mother of Abominations, and this is the mystery of her adulteries, for she hath yielded up herself to everything that liveth, and hath become a partaker in its mystery. And because she hath made her self the servant of each, therefore is she become the mistress of all. Not as yet canst thou comprehend her glory."




the only reason we see ANYTHING is cuz of Sol's light. just sayin'
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i thought that earth would be the mother no?

not trying to say you are wrong, just i'v always heard the earth being referred to as the mother because she hosts the life and the sun being the male because he gives the light needed so on...

correct me if i'm wrong, but wouldn't make more sense if males payed respect to the earth rather than the moon?

on a side note I always hear the moon get referred to as the trickster...
 Quoting: High Times


Both the earth and the moon are feminine.

The earth is our mother, the moon is our mother. Both are sisters and daughters too. It's important to think of the abstract concept, and to not focus upon absolutes.

The moon as a trickster is apt, understanding that the moon is the woman of the night.

The night is a time when the light of the sun is obscured by the turning of the earth--so when we think of the unknown, unseen, it corresponds to the night. Darkness. And, tricks inherently imply stealth, deception. Everything is about INTENT, which is why contrary to popular opinion, the darkness is not our enemy. This is the myth of the so-called New Age movement--light is promoted at the exclusion of the dark. That will never work because life exists due to both, in balance.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


okay thanks for that insight, ill take that into consideration, now take the time to see it in this light, imagine the moon was not always there, it is a drifter and drifted till it eventually came here, imagine that before the moon came females didn't have a menstrual cycle, imagine that before the moon came, everything was unaffected by it, in true balance.

so in regards to the moon being a trickster, imagine it deciding to stay around because it liked it here but no one would want it to stay if they knew it was the moon affecting
them so adversely, so it decides to become their mother.

as you say don't focus upon the absolutes, but i had to tell a story to try explain what i mean.

it seems a little strange to just accept that their are two mothers.
 Quoting: High Times


I'm sorry, but I failed to explain this abstract concept clearly. Otherwise, it would not seem so odd that both represent the feminine and as such, mothers, daughters, etc.

If females did not have a menstrual cycle, none of us would be able to reproduce.

Let me try it this way...

If the moon was a daughter, the darkness of space would be it's mother. If the moon was a mother, the darkness of space would be it's grandmother.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


Hmmmm... who told you that?

Do you truly believe that, or is that just something you where told, read, heard, saw on t.v?
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Both the earth and the moon are feminine.

The earth is our mother, the moon is our mother. Both are sisters and daughters too. It's important to think of the abstract concept, and to not focus upon absolutes.

The moon as a trickster is apt, understanding that the moon is the woman of the night.

The night is a time when the light of the sun is obscured by the turning of the earth--so when we think of the unknown, unseen, it corresponds to the night. Darkness. And, tricks inherently imply stealth, deception. Everything is about INTENT, which is why contrary to popular opinion, the darkness is not our enemy. This is the myth of the so-called New Age movement--light is promoted at the exclusion of the dark. That will never work because life exists due to both, in balance.
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okay thanks for that insight, ill take that into consideration, now take the time to see it in this light, imagine the moon was not always there, it is a drifter and drifted till it eventually came here, imagine that before the moon came females didn't have a menstrual cycle, imagine that before the moon came, everything was unaffected by it, in true balance.

so in regards to the moon being a trickster, imagine it deciding to stay around because it liked it here but no one would want it to stay if they knew it was the moon affecting
them so adversely, so it decides to become their mother.

as you say don't focus upon the absolutes, but i had to tell a story to try explain what i mean.

it seems a little strange to just accept that their are two mothers.
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I'm sorry, but I failed to explain this abstract concept clearly. Otherwise, it would not seem so odd that both represent the feminine and as such, mothers, daughters, etc.

If females did not have a menstrual cycle, none of us would be able to reproduce.

Let me try it this way...

If the moon was a daughter, the darkness of space would be it's mother. If the moon was a mother, the darkness of space would be it's grandmother.
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Hmmmm... who told you that?

Do you truly believe that, or is that just something you where told, read, heard, saw on t.v?
 Quoting: High Times


Are you a woman?

Every animal upon the earth has a menstruation cycle, even plants. It governs our ability to reproduce.

What threads have you been reading that demonize the moon and assert that it is foreign to our solar system? Or was put there by an alien species?

Tell me what else in nature has been artificially placed here.

Is mother nature that imperfect?
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We would never even know that the moon EXISTS if we could not SEE it. And the only reason we see it is because of the reflection of light from the sun.

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on the OP: close. mostly tl;dr

i suggest you spend a bit of time with the Tarot Major XIII... u r missing something crucial in the feminine, i believe.


"This is the Mystery of Babylon, the Mother of Abominations, and this is the mystery of her adulteries, for she hath yielded up herself to everything that liveth, and hath become a partaker in its mystery. And because she hath made her self the servant of each, therefore is she become the mistress of all. Not as yet canst thou comprehend her glory."




the only reason we see ANYTHING is cuz of Sol's light. just sayin'
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For the most part I would tend to agree. But we do not need our sun's light to view the stars. Instead we need the absence of it.

You couldn't take the time to read the thread, but you would point out what I am missing and then make a reading recommendation?

Really?
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okay thanks for that insight, ill take that into consideration, now take the time to see it in this light, imagine the moon was not always there, it is a drifter and drifted till it eventually came here, imagine that before the moon came females didn't have a menstrual cycle, imagine that before the moon came, everything was unaffected by it, in true balance.

so in regards to the moon being a trickster, imagine it deciding to stay around because it liked it here but no one would want it to stay if they knew it was the moon affecting
them so adversely, so it decides to become their mother.

as you say don't focus upon the absolutes, but i had to tell a story to try explain what i mean.

it seems a little strange to just accept that their are two mothers.
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I'm sorry, but I failed to explain this abstract concept clearly. Otherwise, it would not seem so odd that both represent the feminine and as such, mothers, daughters, etc.

If females did not have a menstrual cycle, none of us would be able to reproduce.

Let me try it this way...

If the moon was a daughter, the darkness of space would be it's mother. If the moon was a mother, the darkness of space would be it's grandmother.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


Hmmmm... who told you that?

Do you truly believe that, or is that just something you where told, read, heard, saw on t.v?
 Quoting: High Times


Are you a woman?

Every animal upon the earth has a menstruation cycle, even plants. It governs our ability to reproduce.

What threads have you been reading that demonize the moon and assert that it is foreign to our solar system? Or was put there by an alien species?

Tell me what else in nature has been artificially placed here.

Is mother nature that imperfect?
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


No i'm not, so i wouldn't understand right? i wouldn't be so connected right?

My ancestors! why would they lie? the fact that all these conspiracy theory's pop up about the moon not always being there surprises me none.

how it got there doesn't really matter, it's there.

It is the jester in the sky.

i'm quite content with it being there because we are all so used to it, and some have grown to love it nowadays.

I just don't see it the way you do.
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We would never even know that the moon EXISTS if we could not SEE it. And the only reason we see it is because of the reflection of light from the sun.

 Quoting: SecondPrecession


on the OP: close. mostly tl;dr

i suggest you spend a bit of time with the Tarot Major XIII... u r missing something crucial in the feminine, i believe.


"This is the Mystery of Babylon, the Mother of Abominations, and this is the mystery of her adulteries, for she hath yielded up herself to everything that liveth, and hath become a partaker in its mystery. And because she hath made her self the servant of each, therefore is she become the mistress of all. Not as yet canst thou comprehend her glory."




the only reason we see ANYTHING is cuz of Sol's light. just sayin'
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Now were going to clam only the book of A.C's tarot is of any worth? The study of this tarot and any other books by the creater of Lam would need it's own site would it not.
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7For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.

8For the man is not of the woman: but the woman of the man.

9Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.

10For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels.

11Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord.

12For as the woman is of the man, even so is the man also by the woman; but all things of God.
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I'm sorry, but I failed to explain this abstract concept clearly. Otherwise, it would not seem so odd that both represent the feminine and as such, mothers, daughters, etc.

If females did not have a menstrual cycle, none of us would be able to reproduce.

Let me try it this way...

If the moon was a daughter, the darkness of space would be it's mother. If the moon was a mother, the darkness of space would be it's grandmother.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


Hmmmm... who told you that?

Do you truly believe that, or is that just something you where told, read, heard, saw on t.v?
 Quoting: High Times


Are you a woman?

Every animal upon the earth has a menstruation cycle, even plants. It governs our ability to reproduce.

What threads have you been reading that demonize the moon and assert that it is foreign to our solar system? Or was put there by an alien species?

Tell me what else in nature has been artificially placed here.

Is mother nature that imperfect?
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


No i'm not, so i wouldn't understand right? i wouldn't be so connected right?

My ancestors! why would they lie? the fact that all these conspiracy theory's pop up about the moon not always being there surprises me none.

how it got there doesn't really matter, it's there.

It is the jester in the sky.

i'm quite content with it being there because we are all so used to it, and some have grown to love it nowadays.

I just don't see it the way you do.
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No worries.

It's not about an inability to understand. I asked if you were a woman so that I might find a woman's way of relating this information through the experience of living with a menstruation cycle.

Your ancestors were no the only ones to depict the moon as beguiling or tricky. It is part of the feminine modality of night.

If you really do want to take the time, this video series has many explanations and does a much better job than me at explaining.



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Welcom back OP
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Hmmmm... who told you that?

Do you truly believe that, or is that just something you where told, read, heard, saw on t.v?
 Quoting: High Times


Are you a woman?

Every animal upon the earth has a menstruation cycle, even plants. It governs our ability to reproduce.

What threads have you been reading that demonize the moon and assert that it is foreign to our solar system? Or was put there by an alien species?

Tell me what else in nature has been artificially placed here.

Is mother nature that imperfect?
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


No i'm not, so i wouldn't understand right? i wouldn't be so connected right?

My ancestors! why would they lie? the fact that all these conspiracy theory's pop up about the moon not always being there surprises me none.

how it got there doesn't really matter, it's there.

It is the jester in the sky.

i'm quite content with it being there because we are all so used to it, and some have grown to love it nowadays.

I just don't see it the way you do.
 Quoting: High Times


No worries.

It's not about an inability to understand. I asked if you were a woman so that I might find a woman's way of relating this information through the experience of living with a menstruation cycle.

Your ancestors were no the only ones to depict the moon as beguiling or tricky. It is part of the feminine modality of night.

If you really do want to take the time, this video series has many explanations and does a much better job than me at explaining.


 Quoting: SecondPrecession


Thank you, i'll take sometime to watch it and i'll do my best to be fully open minded.
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Welcom back OP
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Likewise.

hf

Since we are both here, is there anything in particular you would like to question or discuss?

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I would say you i am glad to see you are back . How was the weekend with your gift from above? I would guess a girl? I also felt your presence, if not in a post or two.

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I would say you i am glad to see you are back . How was the weekend with your gift from above? I would guess a girl?
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I work alot on the weekends, as I am a bartender.


I learned a quick lesson for myself with regard to these interactions, it involved a male if that is what you're asking.
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do you not have a child / girl child. yes I new you were a bartender

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you study the book of THOTH do you not ? There is some thing else also ,but at this time it is not wise for me to say.

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you study the book of THOTH do you not ? There is some thing else also ,but at this time it is not wise for me to say.
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I have never studied that particular book, no.

But I have studied the Egyptian Book of the Dead, and the story of Isis and Osiris.

What else is there also? You can whisper it, no one will hear. secrets
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do you not have a child / girl child. yes I new you were a bartender
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I do have a lovely daughter, yes.

She is my inspiration for everything.

Shall we discuss the Flower of Life then?

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Would you care to share your opinion of these images as well?

I see the Cross of Lorraine.

The crescent of the moon.

And on the mosque, I see the crescent of Venus.

The first link was forbidden.

Thank you for contributing.

hf
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related to the Jung previously quoted... Im wondering now if spirituality and sexuality might be two sides of the same coin..

worth a bump anyway

its great to share the same thread space with such thoughtful people even if me an ignorant meathead.. (atempting recovery FWIW)

kinda hoping some of this rubs off on me in someway.. I think it is starting to.

please excuse my intrusions

thanks