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The male and the female of the cosmos----We are all manifestations of this unity.

 
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The Earth is the mother.Earth is a mother ,the moon is a planertary aspect of the women.If you go back to the first page of this thread the OP explains all of it ,which is worth bring you up to date in this thread.hope you join us,all points of view make it alive.
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i thought that earth would be the mother no?

not trying to say you are wrong, just i'v always heard the earth being referred to as the mother because she hosts the life and the sun being the male because he gives the light needed so on...

correct me if i'm wrong, but wouldn't make more sense if males payed respect to the earth rather than the moon?

on a side note I always hear the moon get referred to as the trickster...
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Ya, stuff like this is weird for me.

But maybe it is not so literal. More like the qualities of one heavenly body or the other has a feminine or male dominant aspect.

The moon as a trickster. Could be. IDK.

That tttthhhhoooootthhhhhhhh meditation during this last full moon really was powerful for me.

I want to tie into the magic of it, but only if it is a path worth taking.

Do you have any more info on the moon? or where did you hear of the trickster part?
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Only what learnt from my Aboriginal culture,

there are many different stories about the moon and i'v been told a few but i can never remember them in full, the stories always relate to greed, jealousy and manipulation

i found a couple on the net that are pretty close to what elders have told me, although very short and basic, so ill paste those for you..


The moon as the native cat
The Boorong people of north west Victoria saw Mityan, the Moon as representing the quoll or
native cat which has full moon, half moon and crescent moon shapes on its fur coat. Mityan
was beaten after trying to entice someone else's wife to run away with him and he has been
wandering ever since. The quoll probably hunts at night most effectively on a full moon, just
as other cats do



How Moon was created - an Adnyamathanha story
An Adnyamathanha Dreaming story from the northern Flinders Ranges describes how the
Moon was created by a greedy nephew who kept stealing his uncle’s food. Every time the
uncle hunted a kangaroo he would bring it to the camp, prepare it and cook it in a ground
oven with hot coals.
The nephew would steal the cooked kangaroo as his uncle slept. He was punished by his
uncle who made him climb a tall tree which was then cut down, leaving his now very fat round
nephew in the sky in the form of the moon.

hope this helps you some.
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The Moon is clearly a hot chick.
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there is no spoon...


or moon..


or male


or female


its all an illusion.
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there is no spoon...


or moon..


or male


or female


its all an illusion.
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With in the illusion they all exist, play the game.
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Fuck the Game.
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Fuck the Game.
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or not, you don't have to.
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So let us summarize by concluding that the subconscious mind (feminine) knows everything about you---but it cannot put any of it into words--only the conscious mind can verbalize.
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Is this why romantic love is so indescribable when you actually find it legitimately? Is it then a manifestation of your subconscious mind?

This intrigues me, cause for quite a while I've had pretty strong feelings towards someone, and I haven't always understood why. We've argued and fought, quite bitterly at times in the past, yet.....even when I've wanted to let go I have found I cannot do it. Something won't allow me to, something keeps bringing me back. It hasn't always made much sense, the feelings really can't be put into words, but it's something I can definitely feel in a very definitive way.

Something has been telling me to stay, to not let her go, and really it's something that I sort of felt even from the first time I heard her voice, though perhaps to a lesser extent than I do now with all we've gone through since then, but it was almost like this innate feeling in my heart telling me there was something special about this one. And that feeling has only grown with time.

I never used to understand what it meant when they would tell you that when you find the one, you'd just know, but I think I do now.

All this would have to be coming from my subconscious mind would it not? Would it know more intuitively what is really wanted than the conscious in cases like this?

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No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."
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So, when we consider trance we can understand that it allows us to access our subconscious minds--To go back to the womb of our own mind, the place where consciousness is born and takes shape.

In the womb of the subconscious mind, we find any memory through it's associated emotion. We also find within those memories, particular details such as colors, items, people, events, places, etc--these can be from any time of one's life.

All of these associations still exist and operate for us, despite that our conscious minds have forgotten the event, ie. we don't remember.

So let us summarize by concluding that the subconscious mind (feminine) knows everything about you---but it cannot put any of it into words--only the conscious mind can verbalize.
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This is some of the best information I have seen anywhere about the the divine cosmos!

I am a Freemason and I can tell you that she(the OP) understands the universe to a level that very people do. She has an incredible understanding of DUALITY to a point I have never seen on GLP. I applaud the OP for providing such truely great information that I would recommend it to anyone thats at a point in their spiritual path thats ready to hear it!

Phenomenal work...Thank you OP!
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I had this dream last night and when I woke up all that kept going through my head was this song , "Do not lie to this World" any body want to comment on what this is supose to represent.And yes i do wear a diffrent hat out in public
When I went to post this ,this morning I could not GLP said it was a copyrighted lyric,so I went and googled it and there was no song tittled Do not lie to this world. this shit happens to me on a daily basess.

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"The world of the gods is made manifest in spirituality and in sexuality. The celestial ones appear in spirituality, the earthly in sexuality.

Spirituality conceiveth and embraceth. It is womanlike and therefore we call it mater coelestis, the celestial mother. Sexuality engendereth and createth. It is manlike, and therefore we call it phallos, the earthly father.

The sexuality of man is more of the earth, the sexuality of woman is more of the spirit.

The spirituality of man is more of heaven, it goeth to the greater.

The spirituality of woman is more of the earth, it goeth to the smaller.

Lying and devilish is the spirituality of the man which goeth to the smaller.

Lying and devilish is the spirituality of the woman which goeth to the greater.

Each must go to its own place."

from C. G. Jung's Sermo V

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"The world of the gods is made manifest in spirituality and in sexuality. The celestial ones appear in spirituality, the earthly in sexuality.

Spirituality conceiveth and embraceth. It is womanlike and therefore we call it mater coelestis, the celestial mother. Sexuality engendereth and createth. It is manlike, and therefore we call it phallos, the earthly father.

The sexuality of man is more of the earth, the sexuality of woman is more of the spirit.

The spirituality of man is more of heaven, it goeth to the greater.

The spirituality of woman is more of the earth, it goeth to the smaller.

Lying and devilish is the spirituality of the man which goeth to the smaller.

Lying and devilish is the spirituality of the woman which goeth to the greater.

Each must go to its own place."

from C. G. Jung's Sermo V

[link to www.gnosis.org]
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Thats a little spooky ,but not scarry,What i don't understand is how can a mans spirituality go to the earth ?
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"The world of the gods is made manifest in spirituality and in sexuality. The celestial ones appear in spirituality, the earthly in sexuality.

Spirituality conceiveth and embraceth. It is womanlike and therefore we call it mater coelestis, the celestial mother. Sexuality engendereth and createth. It is manlike, and therefore we call it phallos, the earthly father.

The sexuality of man is more of the earth, the sexuality of woman is more of the spirit.

The spirituality of man is more of heaven, it goeth to the greater.

The spirituality of woman is more of the earth, it goeth to the smaller.

Lying and devilish is the spirituality of the man which goeth to the smaller.

Lying and devilish is the spirituality of the woman which goeth to the greater.

Each must go to its own place."

from C. G. Jung's Sermo V

[link to www.gnosis.org]
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Thats a little spooky ,but not scarry,What i don't understand is how can a mans spirituality go to the earth ?
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Cool info, thanx!

Interesting thred, thank you OP...
I accepted my female energy a little before my assention, an energy came towards me, I was not thinking about any such thing, I was busy doing something. It had the same vibration as my self, but not the same kind of charge, it felt like a balance when I think of it now. It came with a feeling, "let's have fun, let's balance it up a little..." My body reacted with a smile without me thinking about it.

I feels more real after that nite.
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I wonder were you are
it's not for me to know
unless a part of me goes through
and feels a part of you.
If it's not for me to know you
don't think to much of me
For if you do,i'll feel you to
then where will we to be.
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Jung has provided alot of valuable info on the subject. Ive just started reading his works and that quote really seemed to fit in here.

one way I understand it is that when we take from one, we give to the other and visvera. spirituality/sexuality


>>What i don't understand is how can a mans spirituality go to the earth ?<<

through sexuality maybe?

I dont really understand most of that quote but the first sentance in it did clear up quite a bit for me. hoping others can clear up some of the rest of it.
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Jung has provided alot of valuable info on the subject. Ive just started reading his works and that quote really seemed to fit in here.

one way I understand it is that when we take from one, we give to the other and visvera. spirituality/sexuality


>>What i don't understand is how can a mans spirituality go to the earth ?<<

through sexuality maybe?

I dont really understand most of that quote but the first sentance in it did clear up quite a bit for me. hoping others can clear up some of the rest of it.
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I went to the site and liked what I read (thanks for the info.) It's funny i have all ways thought there was a third Book to study. I am one of those who searchs for the truth relentlessly. Spiritual truth ,for me Can be felt way down deep,I can not put it in to words that tell the feeling . The biggest problem I have is when,contradictions in a spiritual book inlighten me to search some where else.We will see about the seven sermons.A.C.'s book I felt was fact and ficton,no disrespect to any followers intended.The bible is another one that I can name.For what reason would Jesus say "If you seen me you have seen my Father in Heaven" There books are compltetly diffrent Father was a warrior ,Jesus was a peace keeper.I understand God showing both sides of His nature,what i don't understand is why Jesus was a man ,showing the female side of GODs nature.
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Im thinking of a woman..


if our imagination alone can cause physical sensation, what IS that, how does it work?

how can it be used for constructive and not destructive purposes?

the imagination is obviously very powerful, where thoughts alone can bring forth matter, and in short order when combined with sexuality.

is imagination also spirit?
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>>For what reason would Jesus say<<

I try to think of Jesus as just "Christ", the divine speaking through man. and not a man speaking.

I think that Christ is much more than one man, sometimes I wonder if Christ is Chrystaline somehow..
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The disciples asked Jesus When Jesus was talking to them about leaving and going back to Father.They asked when do we get to see The Father and Jesus answer If you etc.
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Im thinking of a woman..


if our imagination alone can cause physical sensation, what IS that, how does it work?

how can it be used for constructive and not destructive purposes?

the imagination is obviously very powerful, where thoughts alone can bring forth matter, and in short order when combined with sexuality.

is imagination also spirit?
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Im thinking of a women ?
explain to me is this phiysical sensation ,your speeking about some personal expereance ? What matter have you brought forth ?
What are the diffrences between the Spirit and the soul ?
Is OP going to fade away or stand ?
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OP probably has the weekend off ;-)

I guess its just me and you for now which may not be too productive since I cant seem to understand your writing. I want to, but somethings not write for me. mabey it is because you are a poet and I am a technician?

I dont know..wish I could help, can you rephase the question/statement?
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Im thinking of a woman..


if our imagination alone can cause physical sensation, what IS that, how does it work?

how can it be used for constructive and not destructive purposes?

the imagination is obviously very powerful, where thoughts alone can bring forth matter, and in short order when combined with sexuality.

is imagination also spirit?
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You stated "if imagination alone can cause phyisical sensations" is this expereance you have had ? or something you have heard?
"thoughts alone can bring forth matter,in short order when combined with sexuality" How would you know this ? unless you have been part of an experament,the government, or personal knowledge?
now if you can not grasp these questions , it only means you do not want to answer them
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Im not sure how difficult for female to use imagination and get horny but this is what Im writing about when I wrote that.

and about then creating matter, the matter would be the liquid types.

so I am wondering what other ways the imagination can create matter and how. surely it works in otherways.

I think the spirit is eternal and the soul is this lifes experiences.
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Im thinking of a woman..


if our imagination alone can cause physical sensation, what IS that, how does it work?

how can it be used for constructive and not destructive purposes?

the imagination is obviously very powerful, where thoughts alone can bring forth matter, and in short order when combined with sexuality.

is imagination also spirit?
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Our imagination does not actually cause the physical sensation,it is brought forth by recall of prior expereance,by the sub-conscience A bunch of short clips, sort of like creating your own movie from all your memories of those thing that excite you. They are store awy in your subconscience.
If i get you correctly the matter is liquid,and that is brought forth by reaction to an action.
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"The world of the gods is made manifest in spirituality and in sexuality. The celestial ones appear in spirituality, the earthly in sexuality.

Spirituality conceiveth and embraceth. It is womanlike and therefore we call it mater coelestis, the celestial mother. Sexuality engendereth and createth. It is manlike, and therefore we call it phallos, the earthly father.

The sexuality of man is more of the earth, the sexuality of woman is more of the spirit.

The spirituality of man is more of heaven, it goeth to the greater.

The spirituality of woman is more of the earth, it goeth to the smaller.

Lying and devilish is the spirituality of the man which goeth to the smaller.

Lying and devilish is the spirituality of the woman which goeth to the greater.

Each must go to its own place."

from C. G. Jung's Sermo V

[link to www.gnosis.org]
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Interesting. I have some catching up to do.
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If you don't mind I would like make a comment on the vidio post " Jade " All the elements,and seasons were there,but i also noticed the butterfly's which represent transformation (to me) the rose I love roses and have a bad habit of picking a few to give out during the day.You should see the way and elderly lady recieves such a gift.makes my heart warm each and every time.The rose reminds me ofthe rose by Bete Midler. And when she steps on to the road ,it was the yellow brick road that leads home,and the last reminds me to slow down to smell the roses.Beautiful song Sometimes my heart hurts,Sorry to say but sometimes it is hard to be so intouch with your feelings.
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Hurting is one of those things that comes alongside joy. A lesson in death taught me the joy of hurt--the contrast of life.

Since the right brain "remembers" through feeling, when it is in use, we feel. Sometimes what we feel washes over us, whereupon the agony of being away from ourselves fills us. It is like longing for something and never getting enough, and that something is our Self. Humanity has come so far away from everything we once knew. For those who choose to remember again, it does not come easy---but it is the most worthwhile thing we can pursue, not only for ourselves and our ancestors, but generations to come.

It is critical that we recall who we are--this defines what we are capable of doing.

The video uses some very interesting symbolism, I will go deeper into it once we've gotten to the Tree, Fruit and Seed of Life.

I am amazed at the science of our ancestors--without whom none of this would be known.
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>>I'm hoping to get more into this later, but it's hard when the subject matter is so abstract to integrate into finite words of the English language and somehow succeed to make people comprehend.<<

Im hoping with ya! you really have a way of explaining that makes things click for me, when I read other publications and such I have a hard time understanding things written, not allways but more than not.

I learned early on that it is easier to learn from others success and mistakes too so the internet BBS, message & discussion boards, forums etc. are a huge resource of wisdom for me, more than anything else now.

it also allows me to view many perspectives on the same subjects so that really makes a huge difference in how I see things. being able to understand what and how others understand.

back in the day (pre-www) I was limited because of my reading comprehension level is so low. I literally have to read the same things about three times to get it. not allways but if its from scholarly types it seems they over complicate their writings trying to seem more intelligent or something. maybe thats just me but I am simple minded (by choice not disposition) like free-flow, minimal friction type of deal. you know..

OK now we are getting personal here huh? me.. "Im a loner but Im never alone, every night I get one step closer to the danger zone" that really sums it up pretty well, more so if you continue from there with that song

Im too selective myself and thats the main reason Im a loner but as Ive aged I found I dont mind being alone and to be honest as I awaken I enjoy being alone more than ever because I cant seem find locals (real people LOL) who can relate. I also get distracted easily arround others and so that complicates everything so...

Im so alone and its Great, I wish all the depressed people who feel lonely could see how good it can be.

I wish I could become celibate (this is really personal so you can skip this if you dont want to read icky stuff)

this is where it sux to be male.. and I probably have issues ontop of that but we definately have a high volatage force within. very difficult to control, alone or not and this is what I struggle with more than anything!

I cant contain it.. I want to and sort of know it is what is holding me back. I want to transmut this into the above instead of .. well you know.

I need to find the schematics, specifics on how this works (transmutation) whats actually happening but Im pretty sure there is none. if I could just see/understand what is happening in a technical way I feel that would enable me to gain a solid control over this.


thats why Im here right.. thats what this thread is about really.

for now I plan to just start meditating regularly but I still have this fire breathing dragon to deal with and its no average dragon this one.

so there I wrote it. I hope thats ok, its REAL and im being honest.

this is also why I have often wished I was a female. I know there are some pretty big drawbacks the women deal with but nothing like this (HIGH VOLTAGE/MAX AMPERAGE) its probably the cause of at least 75% if not more of all their problems... and thats just the field currents emmited indirectly so to speak.

if any of you other males out there have something (specs) let me know.

thats it, this is the largest post Ive ever made here on GLP. Im not too proud of it either but yeah.. needs some help here.. Im hoping to break on through to the other side..



thanks
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Male Left here, so not to hijack OP! but you asked for "other males out there" so I feel inclined to digress.

Shall we?


By the way your post is humorous, sad, real, and heartfelt. Unlike some of the other dribble I find on GLP, so be proud!

Emotional content you have a plenty.

If I read your post right and understood you, basically you have a healthy sexual appetite ("fire breathing dragon")

Also there is some guilt about masturbation ("I want to transmut this into the above instead of .. well you know")


I feel you and I are in this thread for similar reasons.
Which in my mind is learning about Male Female ...stuff, and thusly how to improve said "stuff" lol



Does that get the just of it?


If yes, please be aware, by reading your post I find that you are a caring a thoughtful person with deep feelings and will find what you are looking for sooner or later.

May I ask about your dreams and meditations? Are they vivid or rather do you remember them or have records, what are they about and how do you feel about what you see in them?


again sorry OP's thread here just felt the urge to jump in.
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PLEASE discuss!

I will simply take any important information and include it in my opening post, and so please don't worry about hi-jacking or derail, interruption, etc.

hf
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I believe that to get in touch with both sides of the brain ,for me a male by sexual labels,besides meditation I have found that doing a few unmanly things,such as instead of watching some sporting event listen to clasical music watch an oprea,ect. bake a cake,sew up a ripped shirt.You see women already have such outlets.Women do the same jobs and most important they get to dress like men and have the social acceptance to put on diffrent hats out in public without condemnation. So do some things female, if need be alone at home .This even releaves stress and the presures of being the manly man .change your hat once in a while
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That is great advice!

The whole thing about worrying how others identify you is simply due to conditioning.


Life is so very beautiful in it's design. At our most base level of existence, we are a dual-gendered species.

I will always be a WOMAN, regardless of whether I am fishing, hiking, or taking out the trash. I know that I am a woman no matter what task I choose to master--only society tells me that any task is "manly." Conditioning would tell me that I cannot do something without being seen as unladylike for it.

It is so endearing when a man does something like sew up a tear in clothing, etc--BECAUSE they are men. That is what makes it cute. Likewise, when you seen a chick change her own oil or do maintenance on a motorcycle-it's HOT!

The task doesn't define us--how we master ourselves in the undertaking is what defines us. If the male and female principle within is balanced--loveliness ensues without. One thing all humans can perceive on a universal and yet unique level is beauty--nature is our finest example of this dynamic.
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Re: The male and the female of the cosmos----We are all manifestations of this unity.
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