The male and the female of the cosmos----We are all manifestations of this unity.

To the bolded quote from above--yes!

You are not an intruder here.



The anime and animus are the same as what we are discussing.

If you would like to tell me any particular dream, I would be more than happy to attempt an analysis.

Separation from his instinctual nature inevitably plunges civilized man into the conflict between conscious and unconscious, spirit and nature, knowledge and faith ... In contrast to the subjectivism of the conscious mind, the unconscious is objective, manifesting itself mainly in the form of contrary feelings, fantasies, emotions, impulses and dreams, none of which one makes oneself, but which come upon one objectively ... The religious person, so far as one can judge, stands directly under the influence of the reaction from the unconscious. (Carl Jung

hey OP,

what the heck, since I have so many my last one was:

all over the place but at one point I dove into an egyptian fountain, I could see some type of holographic on the bottom (primitive type like found in kids cerial boxes where you turn one way to see one image and another and the image changes) but I couldnt make out what it was, it was only two colors, the bottom of the fountain was tan and the hologram was brown..

anyway, I didnt need to breath or was breathing in the water not sure which but I was under for a while. then when Idecided to come up out of the water and the water came up with me surrounding my head and chest (legs were still in the fountain) there were people arround looking at me but they didnt seem suprised as I was by it. like they didnt notice.


then later I was at an old job I had and noticed somone had paid with all true silver coins but only at face value. I explained to the boss who didnt notice that these were worth much more but there was no way to tell who had paid them. I asked if I could exchange them with normal cash and was told I could so I did.

end of dream. thats only a small part. I am very fourtunate to have a very active dreamtime every time I sleep. once when I was a child I had a dream that I found a huge gold nugget and the first thing I did after waking up was start looking for it LOL

I was very dissapointed that it wasnt to be found. dreams have never been the same since ;-) as in from then on I knew they were not real (you know what I mean.)


Im very leary to share dreams though so Ive only shared these that seem harmless. reason is I dont know if they can be used against me by somebody who reads.

I trust no one. which is something else I have to work on but this lifes experiences (including mom) have tought me this.

it has been a blessing and a curse but I love mom anyway.

so there.. what was your last one (if you dont mind)

sorry OP I forgot to say thanks on that last reply so "Thanks"


hi Izaask2, thanks for the input!

reguarding Jung, Im looking for a how to that will instruct me on how to go thruough his individuation process. so far I can only find what is written about it but nothing on how to actually make use of this process. if you know of anything I belive that is what I need to do.

thanks

Haha.

Check this out OP, assuming you are not already familiar with it:

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[link to www.freemasonry.org.il]

Ask yourself for guidance.

>>Ask yourself for guidance.<<

well, OK there tiger. I have been doing that but I havnt been cooperating.

mabey someone else can help out..

thanks anyway

lol

ok

ask yourself why

Well, I can try and shed some light on the first bit of your dream, given it uses universal colors and elements.

Diving into the fountain symbolizes your willingness to dive into the search for knowledge and experience. Fountains have been used throughout human history to supply life-giving water, ie. Waters of Life, Fountain of Youth, etc. Water at times can also be used to depict depth of emotion. Water always seeks the lowest common ground and seeps into every crevice. When it freezes, it has a tendency to enlarge any crevice.

In any case, the fountain was tan, the holographic image was brown. The color brown is composed of thee hues, essentially--yellow, red and orange, coupled with varying levels of black. In other words, it's composed of high-wavelength, low-frequency hues, which makes it a very earthy color. Both the water and the earth are feminine elements--symbolizing your search into the unknown. The primary difference between tan and brown is the presence of more red.

So, my guess is that the holographic image at the bottom of the well shows that--depth of discovery matters according to your perception. There are no absolutes, because what you're seeking to know shifts in it's appearance depending on which angle you're looking at it from. In this case, the presence of more red to indicate brown (which was the difference between the tan bottom of the fountain and what you saw to be a brown image) suggests survival and primal needs such as those attributed to the base (root) chakra, which corresponds to the color red.

In addition, when you came up from the fountain, the water did not leave your upper torso, and you noticed this to be odd, but no one else took notice at all. In effect, you were immersed in the knowledge afterward whether standing or leaving the fountain--the water (knowledge) came with you. Interestingly, the upper chakras correspond to the colors that brown does not contain--blue, green, purple.

I would say that your need and impulse to survive at the time of this dream, was driving your search for truth.


As for a recent dream of mine, I was on a yacht with an older couple. It was the first in a line of many yachts sailing over the ocean together, on some kind of adventure cruise. They wanted me to provide something by way of some talent that I was unaware of, they seemed quite taken by me and I was enjoying this encouragement. I knew I was to be tested, and then they proceeded with two tests. One was to pour a glass of wine. I remember thinking--this will be so easy! But alas, I was not meant to pour the wine into a glass (something I've done thousands of times) but from one bottle to another. As I attempted this feat, I noticed that it was the motion of the water beneath the boat that made it a challenge not to spill any of the wine. So I relaxed into that motion, and succeeded.

Immediately thereafter, I was meant to count and correlate some receipts into a proper numbered sequence--to make sense of the sequence of some seven receipts or so. I was handed them one by one and they were all crumpled up. What I noticed with this test was that the wind was so unpredictable and going in so many directions that this is what made the challenge difficult. Whereas, the motion of the waves could be predicted and compensated for, the wind was unruly altogether. I had a hard time holding the many receipts in one hand, while attempting to unravel the new ones with my other hand. Memorizing and sequencing the numbers was easy, but holding onto and uncrumpling all of the receipts in the wild wind was difficult. With this acknowledgement, I woke up.

look for a metaphor, when you ask.

I would advise that you begin with analyzing your dreams. They tell you where you are at, where you have been and where you may be going. They are critical in finding out about your animus and/or anime.

Come back and post them if you'd like, I'll help.

Hmm...interesting.

I am not familiar with the works of John Dee, although I have heard of them etc. I'd never seen any of the original stuff. Thank you, that is valuable information.

From what I understand, he was meant to have intuited an alphabet?

now that is impressive SP!

wow.. If I had someone like you arround I would record every dream then go back to sleep LOL

I have no clue what they mean or how to interpret any of them.

seems right-on though with the survival thing. the way things are these days and since I only recently allowed myself to open my mind combined with my slow rate of learning and how complicated everything is..

yea.. its overwhelming. but whatever maybe for me Im not worried. I might survive, I might not. I do want to so that might be the key I dont know.

I guess you like bar-tending? because it seems you could be anything you wanted with that kind of insight.

I avoid Bars like the plaque LOL and very rarely drink alcohol because I like to be in full control of myself. could be another issue I have.. but dealing with drunks is not my kind of fun, I was security for a racetrack for some time and it can be tough (drunks) of course from a female perspective it would totaly change everything probably.

thank you very much for your time spent on my dream interpretation. my first BTW. I can see why it is useful now. and youre great at it too! wow some guy some day mabey is gonna be really lucky too hook up with you if ever but if so make sure he is on or near the same level.

save the planet! ;-)

You're quite welcome, I enjoy seeing what people have as universal archetypes within dreams, interpreting them is helpful to me. I would not say that you are slow to learn in any fashion, and would be happy to help with your dreams any time--You know where to find me!

(That offer is open to all of you who peruse this thread and have actually read all of the opening post and take interest in the subject.)

Bartending isn't so bad in a restaurant, no drunks and you get off pretty early compared to clubs. Insight makes life worthwhile no matter what you do to make money.

Perhaps one day I will be fortunate enough to meet my near-perfect polar complement, but in the meantime--life is quite lovely. I do wish the same for you.

hey SP since you spent time on my dream I wanted to return the favor so here is my first dream interpretation. my interpretation is not by the book in anyway or technical so its really just to return favor.

you seemed to be overly concerned with what other people think of you in that dream. or the judgements of others of your performance. since it is related to your real life job it could have something to do with tips and how you need to go about improving in otder to make better tips.

probably way of but definately related to your real life. which is how most of mine are and why I have never put alot of stock into them so to speak because they seem to be (dreams) based of of residual thoughts from real life.

it makes me think that not all dreams are the same and only the really fansastical are the ones your subconsious is using to comunicate.

the majority of mine are related to real life. the people, the things, etc. and many of those are obviously just what I want to happen in real life.

Im sure there something to dream interpretation but I dont think they are all worthy of interpretation but then it would be different for those who dont dream much or remember them. in that case I would guess that what ever they dream or remember is important instead of like mine which are pretty constant and alot like normal life.

but what do I know? I just wanted to share for the sake of sharing.

sweet dreams

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Good morning SP .i was unware of your post,and didn't mean to be rude by leaving the site...I look at the images,but i would like to tell you a dream I had last night,( by the way i have just resently started to dream) I spilled some red ink on the carpet in this house I am not famillar with and and it started to rain ,there are to girls sitting where i thought i spilled the ink.i am looking for the stain but the carpet is out side and i think I see the stain,but its two puddles forming from the rain dripping off the roof.Then I find myself in a bed room just waking up and need to go to the bathroom ,however the bathroom I use is outside down this walkway with small single bedroom houses attached on both sides,It is raining small drops of water almost like a mist . I go intio this rather large bathroom with only a screen door on it ,as I am using the restroom I hear three Mexican guys coming to use the bathroom so i try to hurry and finish befor they enter.they enter the bathroom as I leave speeking to each other but I have no clue what there saying. then I see an old dear freind very dear friend ( Iloved him he was like a father to me)who has past on some 22 years ago.he is with someone i assume it was his son but now i am not sure who it was. HE asks me if I want to go to the races at the fair grounds. I tell him look at me I just woke up and my shirt is all wrinkled and i look and see my hair is a mess. I think to myself that I will meet them at the races after i clean up,and suddenly I get very hungry and see a restaurant and leave them to go get something to eat. thatswas it I woke up .Sorry it's so long .I have been having all sorts of dreams and remembering them lately ,do you know what it means.

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Dear OP,

May I thank-you for being such a kind and accommodating being. Your
penchant for incorporating individuals with your gracious inclusiveness is inspirational and uplifting.Your knowledge is remarkable your understanding superlative because without understanding knowledge is impotent and just gossip.

In regard to the integration of the Divine feminine and masculine energies I am curious as to your protocols for understanding faulty programming and correction of such by setting intent.

What I have garnered from the 11 pages of postings so far goes like this and I ask for clarification if my understanding is in error of your intended message.

The sub-conscious mind or feminine aspect of being is receptive to whatever is programed into it as a positive directive or command from the conscious or male aspect of being. And although
we refer to these energies or aspects of being as female or male they are not necessarily related to the sexuality of our physical gender. These energies can be used physically as physical sexual energy but are also transmuted to the activities of all aspects of our objective and subjective realities. How we use these energies is a matter of discernment and choice.

Is this anywhere near your export?

Lending ourselves to the idea that our ability to think is the crown jewel of our species and when we use that ability in Divine Harmony we are the crown jewel of the four kingdoms of Earth, we then understand that it is our choices and the ability to contemplate the consequences of our actions before we act that make the intellect the highest of our spiritual abilities on the physical plane in objective reality. (Objective reality being everything we can know or experience through any or all of the five physical senses.) Whatever we form in choice
through the perspective and lens of our thinking when commanded to the sub-conscious will
then manifest as a state of being whether esoteric or exoteric or through our inner or outer life.

If our thinking (structure) is really feeling clouded by the passions of service to self and then commanded to the feminine sub-conscious (form) to produce a physical manifestation wrong thinking will produce wrong action and an imbalanced manifestation. We then incur karma. I have understood karma to be an energetic imbalance caused by faulty perception that is predicated to improper discernment resulting from substituting feeling for thinking and that that feeling is always in service to self or predicated to a personal agenda. It is like we know better but we do it anyway as you have eluded to. We know what we’ve stated we want, but we do what we feel like, which when working at lower vibrational levels is the gratification of service to self and goes against our stated intentions. Not that serving self is wrong but when we go against ourselves we create imbalance. Again it is like through our conscience we know what is right but act upon our desire rather than on right action. It is like borrowing on credit. We get what we want right away but the bill always comes due eventually (karma).
So if by running in the herd that is raised and cultivated by TPTB through community, society,
the media, norms, mores, consumerism on and on and the inputed data is not consciously and deliberately chosen we see unawakened individuals experiencing the karma of their faulty choices through the suffering that will eventually bring them to the option of choosing differently. Is this anywhere near where you were going OP?

Might you lend yourself to the concept that when thought and feeling are integrated that at that
juncture we are a conduit to allow Divine Intent guided by Divine Love to act as the propellent
of the Divines nature to create, as creatures on the physical plane, then act as an agent of the Divine through the individuality of their soul’s essence to manifest according to that essence Divine Intent upon the physical plane?

OP again thank-you for being a sweet and genuine being. The insights and gifts you offer
are truly Divine as I have been following some of your other posts over time and was awed. All of your ageless wisdom packaged in your youthful physicality. I guess you know you are here to work and so freely share the fruits of your labors.

With gratitude and appreciation...,

From The Power of Myth

BILL MOYERS: Do you ever have the sense of... being helped by hidden hands?

JOSEPH CAMPBELL: All the time. It is miraculous. I even have a superstition that has grown on me as a result of invisible hands coming all the time - namely, that if you do follow your bliss you put yourself on a kind of track that has been there all the while, waiting for you, and the life that you ought to be living is the one you are living. When you can see that, you begin to meet people who are in your field of bliss, and they open doors to you. I say, follow your bliss and don't be afraid, and doors will open where you didn't know they were going to be.

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Jungian, Joseph Campbell did some nice work furthering what you prefaced in bold, moving that into the concept of ‘follow your bliss.’ Not really new age when one puts it within the mythological, cultural, and archetypical systems that Jung did and Campbell furthered.

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Nice thread.

"Now, I came to this idea of bliss because in Sanskrit, which is the great spiritual language of the world, there are three terms that represent the brink, the jumping-off place to the ocean of transcendence: sat-chit-ananda. The word "Sat" means being. "Chit" means consciousness. "Ananda" means bliss or rapture. I thought, "I don't know whether my consciousness is proper consciousness or not; I don't know whether what I know of my being is my proper being or not; but I do know where my rapture is. So let me hang on to rapture, and that will bring me both my consciousness and my being." I think it worked.”

-- Joseph Campbell, The Power of Myth, pp. 113, 120

AC712, your thoughts on this subject help to organise and broaden perspective on the subject. thanks for posting.

AMM, Thanks for your Input too

seems like another valuable source of wisom to follow, I will search for more from this one.

these interactions here are profound for me, I can only hope to pass along what has been given here to others in need at some point and I can not thank all of you involved here enough.

You know what I have been thinking? It really comes down to we have no rites of passage anymore in the West. If we ever did in the first place. Jung and Campbell and of course Eastern thought had the anthropological understandings of how important it was to honor the stages of development in sexuality for both male and female. We have alienated ourselves from the spiritual context of the stages of development. So how do we get them back? Development rites of passage again that tie back in the spiritual context of sexuality. It is a pickle.

The beauty of what the OP offered in the conception of this thread is that we do have those rites of passage. We as the individual sojourner must take responsibility for our thoughts and choice and consciously co create with harmony. We must live what we want and carry it through with kindness, gentleness and patience and when we put it into action we experience love as a state of being not as title of ownership. It is through the character of our actions that we shape our destiny and it is our choices that shape our character. It is a matter of discernment and conscious deliberate intent that we do what we know in conscience is right rather than doing what we want to satisfy our own personal agendas with instant gratification.

We have everything we need. We are fully equipped so to speak. Look at it like we are something dormant becoming active.

If we live our ideals through action and example we become them. Ta-da!

It is by choice and what we banked in essence through all of our prior lessons and work as we hiked the narrowing path to the summit toward our totality that we as aspirants, disciples and initiates are making a collective rite of passage as a species.

Hey dudes and dudettes this is the Age of Aquarius, the dawning is over and it represents Humanity, serving Humanity for humanity. It is about the betterment of the collective whole by conscious
deliberate choice of all the ascending individualized intelligences, like us, chicken scratching for our immortality.

I love you all and if you’d form a line we’ll start passing out hugs and goodwill!

Hello dearOne;I would say that the cross represent the four element,which are four seperate lines which are connected by God with His thought as His head is at the crossing point.Which is the 5th element.
What I see in the second is the four figures at the base of the cresent two attempting to keep the horns steady to crown the moon ,the other two are attempting to lower the horns ,as to remove the label.
The third ,I see phalos of man,over powering Venus which is on top of him and his size alone makes it difficult to sway him,however ,I see a dual message for if you look closely the moon is large and helping venus on Earth and The tiny dot in the background is the Sun (God) ,He watchs with intrest. Thats why God is so great ,He makes it appear that He is ungreat.I know what i see and what others see are vastly diffrent ,and I am okay with that.

Thank you for sharing your interpretation.

It is my considered opinion that every dream is extremely significant. The more detail you can recall, the better the ability to glean meaning from the dream.

Nothing within any dream is insignificant or devoid of special meaning--all of it is relevant, every single time.

We see images, people, objects, events etc. in order to relay meaning. How else could we do this without pulling it from our everyday reality?

OP Did you get a chancto read my post about a dream I just had ? If you have any thoughts on it ,i am all ears (well not exactly).

Yes, I did read it. I am a bit behind in my replies at present, but will interpret it here soon. Thank you for sharing it! A very interesting dream, indeed. I may have some questions for you first though.