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Why do christians join the military?

 
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Why do christians join the military?
I thought that murder was wrong in the eyes of christians?
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it has a hierachy like the church and theyfeel at home blindly doing what they are told.
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Nah..christians LOVE murder.

Every time you disagree with them..in their hearts rises a self righteous loathing of you..a wishing of hell and death on you..and inside..deep down..they have already murdered you in their heart.

According to Jesus..its as GOOD as murder.

But some will join the military so they can put into practice what most of them only wish to do.

Its all about DOOM and DEATH with them.

Thay are OBSESSED with it.

Anytime there is doom they all have a doomgasm screaming.. "GREAT..all this DOOM and DEATH and MISERY means JESUS is coming back and we can get outta here like the COWARDS we are while all those SINNERS we wanted DEAD...FINALLY DIE..as they deserve...for DARING not to beleive us and out crazed blood obsessed rantings.
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Re: Why do christians join the military?
A real Christian would not be in the military.
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Re: Why do christians join the military?
Why does anyone want to be the slave of a master who will think nothing of sending you to your death?
That which is - has already been, And what is to be - has already been. Quote: King Solomon.
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Re: Why do christians join the military?
LOL, thanks for the responses. I am hoping that some devout Christian will try and give me some reason for this strange phenomenon. I really can not understand it.

I am anti religious (and pro spirituality) and I would never kill, or assist in killing, unless I was protecting myself or my loved ones.
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Re: Why do christians join the military?
I thought that murder was wrong in the eyes of christians?
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You pose a very good question. If these people were to ponder upon it, they will short circuit and head explodes.

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Old cliche Military intelligence = Oxy Moron
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LOL, thanks for the responses. I am hoping that some devout Christian will try and give me some reason for this strange phenomenon. I really can not understand it.

I am anti religious (and pro spirituality) and I would never kill, or assist in killing, unless I was protecting myself or my loved ones.
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I tend to agree with you OP. Protecting yourself and your loved ones is a personal choice but once you have joined the military - you give up the right to act on your own personal choices and you have become slaves and cannon fodder!
That which is - has already been, And what is to be - has already been. Quote: King Solomon.
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Re: Why do christians join the military?
I thought that murder was wrong in the eyes of christians?
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You pose a very good question. If these people were to ponder upon it, they will short circuit and head explodes.

cruise

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HAHAHAHA.. I would like to see that.
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Re: Why do christians join the military?
LOL, thanks for the responses. I am hoping that some devout Christian will try and give me some reason for this strange phenomenon. I really can not understand it.

I am anti religious (and pro spirituality) and I would never kill, or assist in killing, unless I was protecting myself or my loved ones.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6289134
I tend to agree with you OP. Protecting yourself and your loved ones is a personal choice but once you have joined the military - you give up the right to act on your own personal choices and you have become slaves and cannon fodder!
 Quoting: Ozicell


I like your quote btw.

Have you ever read "The Jamais Vu Papers"? King Solomon makes an epic appearance in it :)
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Re: Why do christians join the military?
Christians is just a word like jewish or muslim or hindu. The fact is people enjoy murder, and they are good at it.
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Re: Why do christians join the military?
genuine christians don't.

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i was asked, so i went
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Re: Why do christians join the military?
Because they have cool weapons with scriptures on them.

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Re: Why do christians join the military?
For the most part they do not. We have state schools turning out a bunch of confused morans.
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Re: Why do christians join the military?
Because they have cool weapons with scriptures on them.

[link to www.cbn.com]
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WTF. that is just wack.
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Re: Why do christians join the military?
Simple, there is not such a thing as Christians in the military, because is Cristian or is military you can not serve both. Military is another way of servitude to the empire, and not GOD
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Re: Why do christians join the military?
Simple, there is not such a thing as Christians in the military, because is Cristian or is military you can not serve both. Military is another way of servitude to the empire, and not GOD
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Are you a Christian?
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Re: Why do christians join the military?
A real Christian would not be in the military.
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This is true.

The use of force of any kind is diametrically opposed to everything that Jesus stands for and taught.
The Truth About Thread: The FINAL EVENTS Of Bible Prophecy

"We here are of the conviction that the papacy is the seat of the true and real Antichrist." - Martin Luther (Aug. 18, 1520)

"While God has given ample evidence for faith, He will never remove all excuse for unbelief. All who look for hooks to hang their doubts upon will find them. And those who refuse to accept and obey God's Word until every objection has been removed, and there is no longer an opportunity for doubt, will never come to the light" (The Great Controversy, p. 527).

"Jesus did not come to change the law, but he came to explain it, and that very fact shows that it remains, for there is no need to explain that which is abrogated." - Charles Spurgeon

"Jesuit Adam Weishaupt established the modern version of the Illuminati specifically to be a front organization behind which the Jesuits could hide. After being formally abolished by Pope Clement XIV in 1773, the Jesuits used the Illuminati and other organizations to carry out their operations. Thus, the front organizations would be blamed for the trouble caused by the Jesuits."
Bill Hughes (Author of The Secret Terrorists and The Enemy Unmasked)
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Re: Why do christians join the military?
Nah..christians LOVE murder.

Every time you disagree with them..in their hearts rises a self righteous loathing of you..a wishing of hell and death on you..and inside..deep down..they have already murdered you in their heart.

According to Jesus..its as GOOD as murder.

But some will join the military so they can put into practice what most of them only wish to do.

Its all about DOOM and DEATH with them.

Thay are OBSESSED with it.

Anytime there is doom they all have a doomgasm screaming.. "GREAT..all this DOOM and DEATH and MISERY means JESUS is coming back and we can get outta here like the COWARDS we are while all those SINNERS we wanted DEAD...FINALLY DIE..as they deserve...for DARING not to beleive us and out crazed blood obsessed rantings.
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^^ all that and a can of brew


besides satan said do what thou will and Ill forgive you....
Old GOD did not share this view, nor placing ANYONE in front of him, funny how they overlook these things like the son of man, man is sin, and who sets beside GOD on what side in the end.

Perhaps minds not simple enough to see the simple things....
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Re: Why do christians join the military?
Why Not? Nothing in scripture precludes participation in the military. "Some" christian denominations that tend toward being overly legalistic in regards to doctrine equate military with killing and killing being prohibited by one of the Ten Commandments. In truth, the commandment is to not "murder", very different from killing to protect ones own life, ones family, the life of another or in a just cause. So, to answer your question(s)...yes as a Christian, I am capable and prepared to kill FOR THE RIGHT REASON. The problem now is that the lines and reasons have been blurred so much by people like some of the anti-christian idiots who wouldn't know a real christian if they met one and absolutely wouldn't know anything about sound biblical doctrine if their life depended on it.....which oddly enough it does.
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Re: Why do christians join the military?
Following religion and following the state are almost the exact same mindset. It's a very short step from one to the other. Both require you not to think for yourself. Critical thought blows up both belief systems.
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Re: Why do christians join the military?
Why Not? Nothing in scripture precludes participation in the military. "Some" christian denominations that tend toward being overly legalistic in regards to doctrine equate military with killing and killing being prohibited by one of the Ten Commandments. In truth, the commandment is to not "murder", very different from killing to protect ones own life, ones family, the life of another or in a just cause. So, to answer your question(s)...yes as a Christian, I am capable and prepared to kill FOR THE RIGHT REASON. The problem now is that the lines and reasons have been blurred so much by people like some of the anti-christian idiots who wouldn't know a real christian if they met one and absolutely wouldn't know anything about sound biblical doctrine if their life depended on it.....which oddly enough it does.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7453416


Clearly you haven't read the Bible.
The Truth About Thread: The FINAL EVENTS Of Bible Prophecy

"We here are of the conviction that the papacy is the seat of the true and real Antichrist." - Martin Luther (Aug. 18, 1520)

"While God has given ample evidence for faith, He will never remove all excuse for unbelief. All who look for hooks to hang their doubts upon will find them. And those who refuse to accept and obey God's Word until every objection has been removed, and there is no longer an opportunity for doubt, will never come to the light" (The Great Controversy, p. 527).

"Jesus did not come to change the law, but he came to explain it, and that very fact shows that it remains, for there is no need to explain that which is abrogated." - Charles Spurgeon

"Jesuit Adam Weishaupt established the modern version of the Illuminati specifically to be a front organization behind which the Jesuits could hide. After being formally abolished by Pope Clement XIV in 1773, the Jesuits used the Illuminati and other organizations to carry out their operations. Thus, the front organizations would be blamed for the trouble caused by the Jesuits."
Bill Hughes (Author of The Secret Terrorists and The Enemy Unmasked)
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Re: Why do christians join the military?
they are infiltrators.
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Re: Why do christians join the military?
they are infiltrators.
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Satanic infiltrators?
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Re: Why do christians join the military?
Because they have cool weapons with scriptures on them.

[link to www.cbn.com]
 Quoting: Psych


Really gets to the heart of it for a lot of people eh?
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Re: Why do christians join the military?
Simple, there is not such a thing as Christians in the military, because is Cristian or is military you can not serve both. Military is another way of servitude to the empire, and not GOD
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Christians would reply that it is their belief that actions don't matter. all that matters is that you believe in Jesus. Don't even try to be a good person, that's just offensive to Jesus god.
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Re: Why do christians join the military?
LOL, thanks for the responses. I am hoping that some devout Christian will try and give me some reason for this strange phenomenon. I really can not understand it.

I am anti religious (and pro spirituality) and I would never kill, or assist in killing, unless I was protecting myself or my loved ones.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6289134
I tend to agree with you OP. Protecting yourself and your loved ones is a personal choice but once you have joined the military - you give up the right to act on your own personal choices and you have become slaves and cannon fodder!
 Quoting: Ozicell


I like your quote btw.

Have you ever read "The Jamais Vu Papers"? King Solomon makes an epic appearance in it :)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6289134


No I haven't but will look out for it.

Cheers
That which is - has already been, And what is to be - has already been. Quote: King Solomon.
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Re: Why do christians join the military?
Nothing in scripture precludes participation in the military
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Really? I thought Christians were instructed to be imitators of Christ. Assuming this to be true, then how about these verses?

Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you. (Matthew 5:44)

Do not resist one who is evil. But if any one strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. (Matthew 5:39)

All they that take the sword shall perish with the sword. (Matthew 26:52)

When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies...Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the city get out, and let those in the country not enter the city. (Luke 21:20-21)

Give to Caesar what is Caesar's, and to God what is God's. (Matthew 22:21) [To whom does the life of man belong? God, or Caesar?]

Do not repay anyone evil for evil. (Romans 12:17)

And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ. (Romans 8:9) [Didn't Jesus willing lay down his life rather than defend it? Could he not call down thousands of angels to prevent his death, but he refused the temptation?]

Imitate me, just as I also imitate Christ. (1 Corinthians 11:1) [Did the apostle Paul defend his life using a sword? Did any of Jesus' disciples?]

Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God; for it is written, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord." (Romans 12:19)

Must I go on and on?


the Ten Commandments. In truth, the commandment is to not "murder", very different from killing to protect ones own life
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward


The choice to render the Hebrew "rtsh" as "murder" is only found in the modern translations. For hundreds of years, the English translations rendered the sixth commandment, "Thou shalt not kill." Keep in mind, the word "murder" is actually a legal term, and what constitutes murder varies from locality to locality.

I'd suggest that Anonymous Coward read chapter 31 of the book "Blood Guilt: Christian Responses to America's War on Terror" (see Amazon.com or New Covenant Press ( [link to covenant.nu] ). Chapter 31 is aptly titled "Thou Shalt Not What?" It has a very lengthy exposition of this question regarding the sixth commandment.

I hope this helps.

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Re: Why do christians join the military?
Nah..christians LOVE murder.

Every time you disagree with them..in their hearts rises a self righteous loathing of you..a wishing of hell and death on you..and inside..deep down..they have already murdered you in their heart.

According to Jesus..its as GOOD as murder.

But some will join the military so they can put into practice what most of them only wish to do.

Its all about DOOM and DEATH with them.

Thay are OBSESSED with it.

Anytime there is doom they all have a doomgasm screaming.. "GREAT..all this DOOM and DEATH and MISERY means JESUS is coming back and we can get outta here like the COWARDS we are while all those SINNERS we wanted DEAD...FINALLY DIE..as they deserve...for DARING not to beleive us and out crazed blood obsessed rantings.
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You are gravely mistaken.

Christianity is about unconditional love and a relationship with your Creator.
Seeking Him because you want to seek Him, and in turn, he fills you with His Spirit. Although, do not be lead to believe that the life of a Christian is an easy one. True Christians are persecuted and attacked on a daily basis.
Living the life Christ describes and truly wishes us to live is one of the most difficult tasks one can undertake and a main reason there are so many false/failed Christians in the world.
Would you be willing to sell all you had and live a life dedicated to helping the lame, the poor and the sick? Would you be willing to entrust all of your life, family, savings, and earthly possessions at the foot of the cross?
Christ hates the sin, yet loves the sinner. No one is beyond redemption. Do not mistake the falsehood of Christianity you see in the media for the reality that is Christ's message. Read the entirety of the Scriptures and then come to a conclusion.
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Re: Why do christians join the military?
I thought that murder was wrong in the eyes of christians?
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War is not murder.Murder is plotting and killing a specific individual or individuals. War is random killing.

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