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LuciousGideon

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let me see if i you right OP,

you were brainwashed into thinking, the 1st world nation state slave system, of each fist world nation on planet,
cared ever about the slaves that are the back bone of
said slave system?

i cut you a brake, and say, yes it is hard to understand
how after world war 1 and then world war 2, a normal poor worker, who is spoon fed propoganda and brainwashing threw the slave school system could find it impossable to understand how, fucked over the system dose anyone not rich,

bit your troll GLP, so you have to be beyond that allready,
so what's the deal,
you knowvery well it's the same systemthat has been in places
for 1000's of years.

only funny thing is people still want to beleave the brainwashing they are told their whole lives.
come op,

if your not rich and part of the ruling class, or their employess, you were never , ever really promised anything.

the truth is the truth.
as slaves go, we have it better the russia or china,
at least right now, enjoy your life.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8390191


i don't know if that was bad typing or bad spelling.. but it was bad. i agree with OP in a lot of ways. yes, yes.. the entire 'free world' is all brute farce and we're all the ones not laughing.. etc etc and so on. but people need to bitch, need to take notice, get upset. doesnt matter if you believe in a powerful secret society ruling the world from the shadows, or that thing's have just gone terribly wrong. people got us into this mess. 'the people' can get us out.
we just have to take action.

Start by voting Ron Paul 2012. ;)
 Quoting: LuciousGideon


well if you want to belive the mainstream view of american history,
it was rich men, who were strait up slave owner who started the country,
i have no idea, who told you that brainwahed bit about the "people" that is a myth and has allways been one.

i could point at world war one and world war two,
thenask you wich class of people, died the most,
:fighing " those wars,
but if you really think the "people" will ever do anything,
your nuts.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8390191


are you suggesting the one's you keep referring to.. the ones in power, arent.. people?
LuciousGideon

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What one man can do, another man can undo.

etc
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Same in Europe my friend,straight from Frankfurt school of subversion,
Cold Russia was a huge experiment (successful) now our turn no worries tho mate football's on today and x factors on tonight so alls good
bumpbumpbumpyoda::5a::
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That sums it up nicely. Excellent post OP.

However I do think we are at a stepping stone in the planet's evolutionary path to no longer think that the American Republic's constitutional ideas apply to just the member's of the North American continent and it's Nation States.

If we are to match ambitions with TPTB we should consider expanding our conversation to those who are suffering in the Mediterranean coasts. We should encourage education by those being swindled through economic warfare throughout Europe. Help release those imprisoned by their religions in the middle east, being convinced that their efforts in life give them sanctuary in death. To bring freedom through autonomy to those who are enslaved through strict government authority in the great continent of Asia. To reach out across all lands and give the whole world a fighting chance at becoming something more than a bickering bunch of squirrels fighting over a few nuts before a great, dark, winter.

It would be best, however, to stop talking about what is so wrong or continue to allow that which is wrong, as negative energy begets negative results.

We should, instead, talk about what we can make right or continue to support that which is right, as positive begets positive results.

Fear and anger will not solve this problem. Love and understanding will.


*edited for grammar reasons
 Quoting: tuesday451





I'm sorry... but I must disagree.

We've talked until we're blue in the face. Everybody has spent YEARS talking about their own little theories on what will "fix" things, and what needs to be done, yada, yada, yada...

The very point is, they will never ALLOW us to put our "positive" ideas into effect. That's the whole point. THEY are TOTALLY in control. And THEY do not WANT things "fixed".

Do you understand this?

There are simple solutions to all kinds of problems, but common sense and REASON are simply not ever going to be ALLOWED to be put into effect.

Do you get it yet?


I do agree that fear will not solve any problems, but anger has often solved problems when NOTHING else will. Just read history.

Need I say more?

Love and understanding? LOL... Please... Give me a break here. tyrants do not LISTEN to love and understanding. Do you think STALIN, or HITLER, or MAO, or CASTRO would ever listen to "love and understanding"?

You have seriously got to be kidding.

I've got absolutely nothing against love and understanding, but even the Bible makes it perfectly clear that there is a season for everything. Even for war.

Look, I'm not trying to be argumentative here but only realistic. Do you really think that the solution is to love and to understand the Marxist that just signed away 220 years of this nations history on New Years eve??

C'mon.
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let me see if i you right OP,

you were brainwashed into thinking, the 1st world nation state slave system, of each fist world nation on planet,
cared ever about the slaves that are the back bone of
said slave system?

i cut you a brake, and say, yes it is hard to understand
how after world war 1 and then world war 2, a normal poor worker, who is spoon fed propoganda and brainwashing threw the slave school system could find it impossable to understand how, fucked over the system dose anyone not rich,

bit your troll GLP, so you have to be beyond that allready,
so what's the deal,
you knowvery well it's the same systemthat has been in places
for 1000's of years.

only funny thing is people still want to beleave the brainwashing they are told their whole lives.
come op,

if your not rich and part of the ruling class, or their employess, you were never , ever really promised anything.

the truth is the truth.
as slaves go, we have it better the russia or china,
at least right now, enjoy your life.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8390191


i don't know if that was bad typing or bad spelling.. but it was bad. i agree with OP in a lot of ways. yes, yes.. the entire 'free world' is all brute farce and we're all the ones not laughing.. etc etc and so on. but people need to bitch, need to take notice, get upset. doesnt matter if you believe in a powerful secret society ruling the world from the shadows, or that thing's have just gone terribly wrong. people got us into this mess. 'the people' can get us out.
we just have to take action.

Start by voting Ron Paul 2012. ;)
 Quoting: LuciousGideon


well if you want to belive the mainstream view of american history,
it was rich men, who were strait up slave owner who started the country,
i have no idea, who told you that brainwahed bit about the "people" that is a myth and has allways been one.

i could point at world war one and world war two,
thenask you wich class of people, died the most,
:fighing " those wars,
but if you really think the "people" will ever do anything,
your nuts.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8390191


are you suggesting the one's you keep referring to.. the ones in power, arent.. people?
 Quoting: LuciousGideon


no , but if you think about it,
all anyons see are "front men" for media, and "employess",
of the rule class, not the real rulers.

who's to say who or what really rules anymore.

after all , all we have is the bull shit they tell us to
understand the system we live under.
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Not true.

The Ultra level elites know what's coming, know they will lose, Know this is just a wicked party on their part,


After the party the world goes back to NORMAL

pre 20th century normal.


The ultra level elites know it's almost over, they are living it up before the party ends.


After the party we get 1,000 years of paradise ie No wars , no evil, etc...


the joke is on the mid and low level elites,

they think they are getting the Brave New World/ THX 1138 society.


The ultra level know when its over its over






It is simply because their god Lucifer was able the determine the timing of the 4th seal of Revelation after the second seal was broken in the fall of 2001. So he has been pushing his servants to move everything out of the 1/4th part of the world that will be wiped out when the 4th seal is broken.

The crazy bastard actually thinks he can win the war with his maker ...
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6739256


Actually, their god is the father of lies and they do not know and never will. Because if they did they would stop serving him. They actually believe they will win, and know nothing about the fourth seal of Revelation. Prophecy is being fulfilled (and always has been) by men acting in UNBELIEF.

I will grant you that maybe the "inner echelon" knows what is going, but they will never pass that down to their cronies.
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do doo do doo do doo do doo
Anonymous Coward
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01/07/2012 09:12 AM
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Sorry for the typo in the title.

Should read:

"Let me SEE if I got this straight..."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8388705
You Just woken up ? lifes a bitch , ain't it .
 Quoting: deep in thought


This is one of the most destructive and annoying qualities in human beings today. The whole "life is a bitch" attitude is not one of a revolutionist or somebody who wants to make change. Instead, it is exactly the attitude they hope the majority of us take on.

"life is a bitch, ain't it"

no life is not a bitch, it's beautiful and innocent until it is raped as OP states. Life is only a bitch if you treat her as such, same goes for any situation you are in.

Get up off your ass and start recognizing this "bitch" you envision to be life only exist because of the filters in which you view it through. Take off the filiters and begin to treat life better, which means getting off your ass and doing something about.
 Quoting: Life is a Lady 8395491


Beautifully stated!
hf
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The government forces (through taxation, regulation, etc...) the exportation of all our jobs overseas...

Enables and encourages the massive invasion by tens of millions of illegal aliens, at firs taking jobs that teenagers should work, and later taking jobs in many different blue collar areas...

Hands over our county's wealth, and our childrens future, over to wall street and the banking cartels. Stealing and looting everything in sight, handing it all over to the corporate oligarchs...

Makes making a simple living, a living fucking nightmare...

Makes almost anything and everything illegal...

Builds FEMA prison camps all over the nation, by the HUNDREDS...

Violates the constitution at every turn, even outright eliminating the 4th, 6th, and 14th amendments (while crippling the 1st and working on the 2nd), and makes it LEGAL to arrest people with no charge, and give them a LIFE SENTENCE, or even the DEATH PENALTY, never having been given a trial, and found guilty of ANYTHING...

And meanwhile, the people that brought all this about, are guilty of high treason against this nation, and can violate every law on the books, without being prosecuted, including insider trading, and hundreds of other laws, to help enrich themselves, and consolidate their power...

And then they label YOU as "anti-government", or as a "terrorist", if you hold the opinion that the "government is full of traitors, criminals, thieves, liars, hypocrites, perverts, racketeers, and every other sort of evil imaginable...


So YOU can be put away, tortured and executed for doing NOTHING but acknowledging or speaking the truth, but THEY cannot be prosecuted for any and all felonies imaginable?

Is this REALLY the country that Thomas Jefferson, John Hancock, Patrick Henry, George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, and all of the other "terrorists founded?

Am I living in the twilight zone, or is this a total Soviet/Deutschland repeat of history?

Just checking to see if I got this straight.
 Quoting: Alexander Solzhenitsyn 8388705




clappa
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The typo in your title is no typo IMO, SS is a good description os the current Police force.

And you are absolutely spot on with your view. I am joining the lawful rebellion movement in the uk, we are facing the same, what happens in the us is reflected over here, its really bad in the uk also. We have corrupt judges, corrupt police and corrupt politicians all run by corrupt bankers. I am fed up with it.

I am now highlighting a move back to common law and the right to bear arms in the uk to avoid the rise of a tyrannical government. Its time for everyone in the Uk just to say, heck no, we know whats right and wrong and we refuse to live by these draconian laws and we no longer wan to be poisoned through our water and food supplies.

We are Great Britain, and no one will ever take that away from us. I am a law obiding citizen but i have reached my own tipping point. I aint putting up with it any longer.
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That sums it up nicely. Excellent post OP.

However I do think we are at a stepping stone in the planet's evolutionary path to no longer think that the American Republic's constitutional ideas apply to just the member's of the North American continent and it's Nation States.

If we are to match ambitions with TPTB we should consider expanding our conversation to those who are suffering in the Mediterranean coasts. We should encourage education by those being swindled through economic warfare throughout Europe. Help release those imprisoned by their religions in the middle east, being convinced that their efforts in life give them sanctuary in death. To bring freedom through autonomy to those who are enslaved through strict government authority in the great continent of Asia. To reach out across all lands and give the whole world a fighting chance at becoming something more than a bickering bunch of squirrels fighting over a few nuts before a great, dark, winter.

It would be best, however, to stop talking about what is so wrong or continue to allow that which is wrong, as negative energy begets negative results.

We should, instead, talk about what we can make right or continue to support that which is right, as positive begets positive results.

Fear and anger will not solve this problem. Love and understanding will.


*edited for grammar reasons
 Quoting: tuesday451





I'm sorry... but I must disagree.

We've talked until we're blue in the face. Everybody has spent YEARS talking about their own little theories on what will "fix" things, and what needs to be done, yada, yada, yada...

The very point is, they will never ALLOW us to put our "positive" ideas into effect. That's the whole point. THEY are TOTALLY in control. And THEY do not WANT things "fixed".

Do you understand this?

There are simple solutions to all kinds of problems, but common sense and REASON are simply not ever going to be ALLOWED to be put into effect.

Do you get it yet?


I do agree that fear will not solve any problems, but anger has often solved problems when NOTHING else will. Just read history.

Need I say more?

Love and understanding? LOL... Please... Give me a break here. tyrants do not LISTEN to love and understanding. Do you think STALIN, or HITLER, or MAO, or CASTRO would ever listen to "love and understanding"?

You have seriously got to be kidding.

I've got absolutely nothing against love and understanding, but even the Bible makes it perfectly clear that there is a season for everything. Even for war.

Look, I'm not trying to be argumentative here but only realistic. Do you really think that the solution is to love and to understand the Marxist that just signed away 220 years of this nations history on New Years eve??

C'mon.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8388705


of course not, all you can do make more slave for the system, over and over again, waiting for
"what ever event" the propoganda tell you will set you free.
well,
intell the slave master no longer need human slaves.

but really now, withthe WMD's each 1st world nation state system has, the slaves will never ever see change,
sadly thats the truth,
and people won't belive it, but like i said at least we don't live in russia or china.
tranny witch nli
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it is right for people to hold their constitution in a sort of reverent respect because it represents rule by law as opposed to rule by criminals.

That said, it is a mistake tmake mythical heroes of a bunch of rich and venal slave owners like Jefferson and Washington. They wrote the constitution with its system of checks and balances because they saw that the House of Commons was becoming too powerful in Britain.

Get it. They wanted to prevent the common people from becoming too powerful. They were especially pissed off because Britain had just outlawed slavery in 1773, and recognised native rights in North America (1763).

Thomas Jefferson had sex with slave women and allowed his own children to be sold as slaves. The entire work force on George Washington's plantation deserted to Nova Scotia, finding the promise of free land more real than all the fancy words in the Declaration of Independence.

Washington was such a dinosaur that he tried to make restoration of "his property" a demand in the peace negotiations.

Instead of trying to figure out who won the Iowa primary, it would be better to figure out a new constitution that allows multi-party democracy.
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That sums it up nicely. Excellent post OP.

However I do think we are at a stepping stone in the planet's evolutionary path to no longer think that the American Republic's constitutional ideas apply to just the member's of the North American continent and it's Nation States.

If we are to match ambitions with TPTB we should consider expanding our conversation to those who are suffering in the Mediterranean coasts. We should encourage education by those being swindled through economic warfare throughout Europe. Help release those imprisoned by their religions in the middle east, being convinced that their efforts in life give them sanctuary in death. To bring freedom through autonomy to those who are enslaved through strict government authority in the great continent of Asia. To reach out across all lands and give the whole world a fighting chance at becoming something more than a bickering bunch of squirrels fighting over a few nuts before a great, dark, winter.

It would be best, however, to stop talking about what is so wrong or continue to allow that which is wrong, as negative energy begets negative results.

We should, instead, talk about what we can make right or continue to support that which is right, as positive begets positive results.

Fear and anger will not solve this problem. Love and understanding will.


*edited for grammar reasons
 Quoting: tuesday451





I'm sorry... but I must disagree.

We've talked until we're blue in the face. Everybody has spent YEARS talking about their own little theories on what will "fix" things, and what needs to be done, yada, yada, yada...

The very point is, they will never ALLOW us to put our "positive" ideas into effect. That's the whole point. THEY are TOTALLY in control. And THEY do not WANT things "fixed".

Do you understand this?

There are simple solutions to all kinds of problems, but common sense and REASON are simply not ever going to be ALLOWED to be put into effect.

Do you get it yet?


I do agree that fear will not solve any problems, but anger has often solved problems when NOTHING else will. Just read history.

Need I say more?

Love and understanding? LOL... Please... Give me a break here. tyrants do not LISTEN to love and understanding. Do you think STALIN, or HITLER, or MAO, or CASTRO would ever listen to "love and understanding"?

You have seriously got to be kidding.

I've got absolutely nothing against love and understanding, but even the Bible makes it perfectly clear that there is a season for everything. Even for war.

Look, I'm not trying to be argumentative here but only realistic. Do you really think that the solution is to love and to understand the Marxist that just signed away 220 years of this nations history on New Years eve??

C'mon.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8388705


Yes, still even the ULTIMATE love -- God, has an "evil" that he will address.

Soon.
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No. You have not got it straight.

That doesn't happen anywhere in the world but dumb-ass nations filled with ignorant hillbillies like the USA.
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Hey Canucktard...

The world is FULL of places where these kinds of things have happened. History is LOADED with much worse examples than the soft tyranny that we live under at the moment. The point is, we are rapidly movinfg form a soft tyranny, into the endgame phase.

And leave it up to a brain dead Canucktard like you, to imply that the USA is comprised of nothing but ignorant hillbillies.

Besides... An ignorant hillbilly would still have 10X the brains and common sense than you do, shit-fer-brains.
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The government forces (through taxation, regulation, etc...) the exportation of all our jobs overseas...

Enables and encourages the massive invasion by tens of millions of illegal aliens, at firs taking jobs that teenagers should work, and later taking jobs in many different blue collar areas...

Hands over our county's wealth, and our childrens future, over to wall street and the banking cartels. Stealing and looting everything in sight, handing it all over to the corporate oligarchs...

Makes making a simple living, a living fucking nightmare...

Makes almost anything and everything illegal...

Builds FEMA prison camps all over the nation, by the HUNDREDS...

Violates the constitution at every turn, even outright eliminating the 4th, 6th, and 14th amendments (while crippling the 1st and working on the 2nd), and makes it LEGAL to arrest people with no charge, and give them a LIFE SENTENCE, or even the DEATH PENALTY, never having been given a trial, and found guilty of ANYTHING...

And meanwhile, the people that brought all this about, are guilty of high treason against this nation, and can violate every law on the books, without being prosecuted, including insider trading, and hundreds of other laws, to help enrich themselves, and consolidate their power...

And then they label YOU as "anti-government", or as a "terrorist", if you hold the opinion that the "government is full of traitors, criminals, thieves, liars, hypocrites, perverts, racketeers, and every other sort of evil imaginable...


So YOU can be put away, tortured and executed for doing NOTHING but acknowledging or speaking the truth, but THEY cannot be prosecuted for any and all felonies imaginable?

Is this REALLY the country that Thomas Jefferson, John Hancock, Patrick Henry, George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, and all of the other "terrorists founded?

Am I living in the twilight zone, or is this a total Soviet/Deutschland repeat of history?

Just checking to see if I got this straight.
 Quoting: Alexander Solzhenitsyn 8388705


Read Behold a Pale Horse by William Cooper - that'll wake you up. Then, perhaps, you could move on to Dulce Wars by Branton

Here's a free pdf of Behold a Pale Horse (Dulce is also available online) [link to www.hourofthetime.com]
What is the Strong Delusion? What is the Lie, What causes the Falling Away?

[link to www.tribulation-now.org]
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It's because of people with special needs, i.e., psychopath.

There is always a small percentage of people born with different brains, who could survive due to evolution around game theory. In game theory it makes sense to take more than give, unless mitigated by reputation. A small percentage of people could get by this reputation requirement.

Psychopaths have existed for thousands of years. Genghis Khan and so on, mass murderers, were all psychopaths. They basically created government by preying on farmers, who could not leave their land, once humans evolved to agricultural society. They extorted protection money, and passed these households down to their children--the start of hereditary monarchy and taxes, evolving into today's government also run by psychopaths.

There would be people with bubonic plague, smallpox, or so on who could bring half a population down. Well there is also mental illness. These people look healthy but they're not.

So basically human evolution and history is a story partly of science over diseases and mental illness.

The study of psychopathy is just getting serious, now with genetics, brain imaging, neuroscience, and so on.

It wasn't too long ago people discovered bacteria and that they cause disease. It was only a matter of time before people got to DNA causing illness.

Could you imagine a bunch of Ted Bundy's in suits, walking around? Well basically that is what we have.

"The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist."
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ss ? eh oh you work and then all of a sudden you have weekend and then your alone without money not able to live again.

scratching

not that fema is normal when you get born as a fine lets get it started human.
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it is right for people to hold their constitution in a sort of reverent respect because it represents rule by law as opposed to rule by criminals.

That said, it is a mistake tmake mythical heroes of a bunch of rich and venal slave owners like Jefferson and Washington. They wrote the constitution with its system of checks and balances because they saw that the House of Commons was becoming too powerful in Britain.

Get it. They wanted to prevent the common people from becoming too powerful. They were especially pissed off because Britain had just outlawed slavery in 1773, and recognised native rights in North America (1763).

Thomas Jefferson had sex with slave women and allowed his own children to be sold as slaves. The entire work force on George Washington's plantation deserted to Nova Scotia, finding the promise of free land more real than all the fancy words in the Declaration of Independence.

Washington was such a dinosaur that he tried to make restoration of "his property" a demand in the peace negotiations.

Instead of trying to figure out who won the Iowa primary, it would be better to figure out a new constitution that allows multi-party democracy.
 Quoting: tranny witch nli 1432972




It was a different time, and era.

Nevertheless, the US Constitution and associated documents, are the single most brilliant compilation of laws and government structure ever devised by man.

WHEN RESPECTED, OBEYED, and HONORED.

It's the ABANDONMENT of the Constitution that has brought about ALL of our major problems and woes.

You don't need to agree. It's a fact, agree with it or not.

Were the men who wrote it "perfect"? Of COURSE not. No one IS. But they were 1000X more intelligent, honorable, noble, and well-intentioned than we've seen in the last 100 years.


Any other opinionated Canucks out there want to chime in, on OUR problem here?
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it is right for people to hold their constitution in a sort of reverent respect because it represents rule by law as opposed to rule by criminals.

That said, it is a mistake tmake mythical heroes of a bunch of rich and venal slave owners like Jefferson and Washington. They wrote the constitution with its system of checks and balances because they saw that the House of Commons was becoming too powerful in Britain.

Get it. They wanted to prevent the common people from becoming too powerful. They were especially pissed off because Britain had just outlawed slavery in 1773, and recognised native rights in North America (1763).

Thomas Jefferson had sex with slave women and allowed his own children to be sold as slaves. The entire work force on George Washington's plantation deserted to Nova Scotia, finding the promise of free land more real than all the fancy words in the Declaration of Independence.

Washington was such a dinosaur that he tried to make restoration of "his property" a demand in the peace negotiations.

Instead of trying to figure out who won the Iowa primary, it would be better to figure out a new constitution that allows multi-party democracy.
 Quoting: tranny witch nli 1432972


I am a American, and I can say I would not shoot anyone over a cup of tea.
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You nailed it ope. Meanwhile, the zombies continue to ignore everything.
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This is because your government is not run by patriots. It is run by lobbies & multinationals that have their own and other countries' interests at heart.
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Great Post OP. I agree
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it is right for people to hold their constitution in a sort of reverent respect because it represents rule by law as opposed to rule by criminals.

That said, it is a mistake tmake mythical heroes of a bunch of rich and venal slave owners like Jefferson and Washington. They wrote the constitution with its system of checks and balances because they saw that the House of Commons was becoming too powerful in Britain.

Get it. They wanted to prevent the common people from becoming too powerful. They were especially pissed off because Britain had just outlawed slavery in 1773, and recognised native rights in North America (1763).

Thomas Jefferson had sex with slave women and allowed his own children to be sold as slaves. The entire work force on George Washington's plantation deserted to Nova Scotia, finding the promise of free land more real than all the fancy words in the Declaration of Independence.

Washington was such a dinosaur that he tried to make restoration of "his property" a demand in the peace negotiations.

Instead of trying to figure out who won the Iowa primary, it would be better to figure out a new constitution that allows multi-party democracy.
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I am a American, and I can say I would not shoot anyone over a cup of tea.
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coffee4 I am a brit thats glad to hear it :)
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it is right for people to hold their constitution in a sort of reverent respect because it represents rule by law as opposed to rule by criminals.

That said, it is a mistake tmake mythical heroes of a bunch of rich and venal slave owners like Jefferson and Washington. They wrote the constitution with its system of checks and balances because they saw that the House of Commons was becoming too powerful in Britain.

Get it. They wanted to prevent the common people from becoming too powerful. They were especially pissed off because Britain had just outlawed slavery in 1773, and recognised native rights in North America (1763).

Thomas Jefferson had sex with slave women and allowed his own children to be sold as slaves. The entire work force on George Washington's plantation deserted to Nova Scotia, finding the promise of free land more real than all the fancy words in the Declaration of Independence.

Washington was such a dinosaur that he tried to make restoration of "his property" a demand in the peace negotiations.

Instead of trying to figure out who won the Iowa primary, it would be better to figure out a new constitution that allows multi-party democracy.
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It was a different time, and era.

Nevertheless, the US Constitution and associated documents, are the single most brilliant compilation of laws and government structure ever devised by man.

WHEN RESPECTED, OBEYED, and HONORED.

It's the ABANDONMENT of the Constitution that has brought about ALL of our major problems and woes.

You don't need to agree. It's a fact, agree with it or not.

Were the men who wrote it "perfect"? Of COURSE not. No one IS. But they were 1000X more intelligent, honorable, noble, and well-intentioned than we've seen in the last 100 years.


Any other opinionated Canucks out there want to chime in, on OUR problem here?
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" But they were 1000X more intelligent, honorable, noble, and well-intentioned than we've seen in the last 100 years"

i didn't know you knew these men, wow.

even the propoganda dosen't make them out to be all that.

lolz
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the war needs to be with the bankers and their families. A well regulated militia of 100 men could return the balance of power to the people by neutralizing the bankers. They don't have an army.
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You have got to look at this from my point of view....

The government forces (through taxation, regulation, etc...) the exportation of all our jobs overseas...

This is evolution in practice, you ask for more money and I move the jobs to where its cheaper, that good capatalism dont you think, and whats more you have no say in the matter


Enables and encourages the massive invasion by tens of millions of illegal aliens, at firs taking jobs that teenagers should work, and later taking jobs in many different blue collar areas...

Your missing the big picture here, I have to dumb down education so that the local workers dont expect high rewards, but in return I've created millions of jobs at McD's and Kurger King. You dont need to have a well paid job when I can get you to eat this shit and get my wages back as profit.

Hands over our county's wealth, and our childrens future, over to wall street and the banking cartels. Stealing and looting everything in sight, handing it all over to the corporate oligarchs...

Hey thats what makes the world go around, and how am I going to afford to buy that next country and election if I dont have all the money, Get real here.

Makes making a simple living, a living fucking nightmare...

I gotta tax you till the hilt, after all I've got to squeeze every little drop out of this dieing country, i dont want to laeve anything over now do I.

Makes almost anything and everything illegal...

Taxes and fines make good business sense. It would not make good business sense to bribe all those goverment officials and judges if I could not skim a little more off the top of your pay packet now would it.

Builds FEMA prison camps all over the nation, by the HUNDREDS...

Dont worry about those, they are reserved for trouble makers, you know the types. They want free speech and transparent goverment. I sure you know the kind.

Violates the constitution at every turn, even outright eliminating the 4th, 6th, and 14th amendments (while crippling the 1st and working on the 2nd), and makes it LEGAL to arrest people with no charge, and give them a LIFE SENTENCE, or even the DEATH PENALTY, never having been given a trial, and found guilty of ANYTHING...

Hey that legislation cost good money in donations and bribes, dont go bad mouthing off like that unless you want to see the inside of one of those camps now, move along.

And meanwhile, the people that brought all this about, are guilty of high treason against this nation, and can violate every law on the books, without being prosecuted, including insider trading, and hundreds of other laws, to help enrich themselves, and consolidate their power...

Hey bud I make the laws in this place, Jesus I paid enough for the privilage, so I'm hardly going to fall foul of these made up laws am I.

And then they label YOU as "anti-government", or as a "terrorist", if you hold the opinion that the "government is full of traitors, criminals, thieves, liars, hypocrites, perverts, racketeers, and every other sort of evil imaginable...

Hey all goverments are made up of traitors, criminals, thieves, liars, hypocrites, perverts, racketeers, and every other sort of evil imaginable, thats why I love them and look after them so well. Do you know how long it take to put that sort of system in place. My forefathers worked there socks off to make sure goverment was crooked from the start.


So YOU can be put away, tortured and executed for doing NOTHING but acknowledging or speaking the truth, but THEY cannot be prosecuted for any and all felonies imaginable?

I see you begining to understand my system now, thats good, now get back to work there's a good man.

Is this REALLY the country that Thomas Jefferson, John Hancock, Patrick Henry, George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, and all of the other "terrorists founded?

See my goverment answer above.

Am I living in the twilight zone, or is this a total Soviet/Deutschland repeat of history?

Hey It worked for the family there, it can work here just as well, dont knock a good think until you try it,

Just checking to see if I got this straight.

Sounds just fine to me

Your sincerly
The Rockefeller's

P.S. I really like this forum, its interesting to watch have the minds of the underling's work stuff out.
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The government forces (through taxation, regulation, etc...) the exportation of all our jobs overseas...

Enables and encourages the massive invasion by tens of millions of illegal aliens, at firs taking jobs that teenagers should work, and later taking jobs in many different blue collar areas...

Hands over our county's wealth, and our childrens future, over to wall street and the banking cartels. Stealing and looting everything in sight, handing it all over to the corporate oligarchs...

Makes making a simple living, a living fucking nightmare...

Makes almost anything and everything illegal...

Builds FEMA prison camps all over the nation, by the HUNDREDS...

Violates the constitution at every turn, even outright eliminating the 4th, 6th, and 14th amendments (while crippling the 1st and working on the 2nd), and makes it LEGAL to arrest people with no charge, and give them a LIFE SENTENCE, or even the DEATH PENALTY, never having been given a trial, and found guilty of ANYTHING...

And meanwhile, the people that brought all this about, are guilty of high treason against this nation, and can violate every law on the books, without being prosecuted, including insider trading, and hundreds of other laws, to help enrich themselves, and consolidate their power...

And then they label YOU as "anti-government", or as a "terrorist", if you hold the opinion that the "government is full of traitors, criminals, thieves, liars, hypocrites, perverts, racketeers, and every other sort of evil imaginable...


So YOU can be put away, tortured and executed for doing NOTHING but acknowledging or speaking the truth, but THEY cannot be prosecuted for any and all felonies imaginable?

Is this REALLY the country that Thomas Jefferson, John Hancock, Patrick Henry, George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, and all of the other "terrorists founded?

Am I living in the twilight zone, or is this a total Soviet/Deutschland repeat of history?

Just checking to see if I got this straight.
 Quoting: Alexander Solzhenitsyn 8388705


Read Behold a Pale Horse by William Cooper - that'll wake you up. Then, perhaps, you could move on to Dulce Wars by Branton

Here's a free pdf of Behold a Pale Horse (Dulce is also available online) [link to www.hourofthetime.com]
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Wake me up?

LOL... I was in major-market talk radio for 10 years, waking people up, sweetheart. I've been wide awake and a student of the NWO for 25 YEARS. I have an autographed copy of "Behold a Pale Horse", By Bill Cooper, who I had on my show twice, back in 1993.
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the war needs to be with the bankers and their families. A well regulated militia of 100 men could return the balance of power to the people by neutralizing the bankers. They don't have an army.
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yes they do,
stop smoke what you are on and go read books,
lolz,

man the brain wahing is think here to day.
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You have got to look at this from my point of view....

The government forces (through taxation, regulation, etc...) the exportation of all our jobs overseas...

This is evolution in practice, you ask for more money and I move the jobs to where its cheaper, that good capatalism dont you think, and whats more you have no say in the matter


Enables and encourages the massive invasion by tens of millions of illegal aliens, at firs taking jobs that teenagers should work, and later taking jobs in many different blue collar areas...

Your missing the big picture here, I have to dumb down education so that the local workers dont expect high rewards, but in return I've created millions of jobs at McD's and Kurger King. You dont need to have a well paid job when I can get you to eat this shit and get my wages back as profit.

Hands over our county's wealth, and our childrens future, over to wall street and the banking cartels. Stealing and looting everything in sight, handing it all over to the corporate oligarchs...

Hey thats what makes the world go around, and how am I going to afford to buy that next country and election if I dont have all the money, Get real here.

Makes making a simple living, a living fucking nightmare...

I gotta tax you till the hilt, after all I've got to squeeze every little drop out of this dieing country, i dont want to laeve anything over now do I.

Makes almost anything and everything illegal...

Taxes and fines make good business sense. It would not make good business sense to bribe all those goverment officials and judges if I could not skim a little more off the top of your pay packet now would it.

Builds FEMA prison camps all over the nation, by the HUNDREDS...

Dont worry about those, they are reserved for trouble makers, you know the types. They want free speech and transparent goverment. I sure you know the kind.

Violates the constitution at every turn, even outright eliminating the 4th, 6th, and 14th amendments (while crippling the 1st and working on the 2nd), and makes it LEGAL to arrest people with no charge, and give them a LIFE SENTENCE, or even the DEATH PENALTY, never having been given a trial, and found guilty of ANYTHING...

Hey that legislation cost good money in donations and bribes, dont go bad mouthing off like that unless you want to see the inside of one of those camps now, move along.

And meanwhile, the people that brought all this about, are guilty of high treason against this nation, and can violate every law on the books, without being prosecuted, including insider trading, and hundreds of other laws, to help enrich themselves, and consolidate their power...

Hey bud I make the laws in this place, Jesus I paid enough for the privilage, so I'm hardly going to fall foul of these made up laws am I.

And then they label YOU as "anti-government", or as a "terrorist", if you hold the opinion that the "government is full of traitors, criminals, thieves, liars, hypocrites, perverts, racketeers, and every other sort of evil imaginable...

Hey all goverments are made up of traitors, criminals, thieves, liars, hypocrites, perverts, racketeers, and every other sort of evil imaginable, thats why I love them and look after them so well. Do you know how long it take to put that sort of system in place. My forefathers worked there socks off to make sure goverment was crooked from the start.


So YOU can be put away, tortured and executed for doing NOTHING but acknowledging or speaking the truth, but THEY cannot be prosecuted for any and all felonies imaginable?

I see you begining to understand my system now, thats good, now get back to work there's a good man.

Is this REALLY the country that Thomas Jefferson, John Hancock, Patrick Henry, George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, and all of the other "terrorists founded?

See my goverment answer above.

Am I living in the twilight zone, or is this a total Soviet/Deutschland repeat of history?

Hey It worked for the family there, it can work here just as well, dont knock a good think until you try it,

Just checking to see if I got this straight.

Sounds just fine to me

Your sincerly
The Rockefeller's

P.S. I really like this forum, its interesting to watch have the minds of the underling's work stuff out.
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only shills and or bot write the way you did,
no one read crap in red dude
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You have got to look at this from my point of view....

The government forces (through taxation, regulation, etc...) the exportation of all our jobs overseas...

This is evolution in practice, you ask for more money and I move the jobs to where its cheaper, that good capatalism dont you think, and whats more you have no say in the matter


Enables and encourages the massive invasion by tens of millions of illegal aliens, at firs taking jobs that teenagers should work, and later taking jobs in many different blue collar areas...

Your missing the big picture here, I have to dumb down education so that the local workers dont expect high rewards, but in return I've created millions of jobs at McD's and Kurger King. You dont need to have a well paid job when I can get you to eat this shit and get my wages back as profit.

Hands over our county's wealth, and our childrens future, over to wall street and the banking cartels. Stealing and looting everything in sight, handing it all over to the corporate oligarchs...

Hey thats what makes the world go around, and how am I going to afford to buy that next country and election if I dont have all the money, Get real here.

Makes making a simple living, a living fucking nightmare...

I gotta tax you till the hilt, after all I've got to squeeze every little drop out of this dieing country, i dont want to laeve anything over now do I.

Makes almost anything and everything illegal...

Taxes and fines make good business sense. It would not make good business sense to bribe all those goverment officials and judges if I could not skim a little more off the top of your pay packet now would it.

Builds FEMA prison camps all over the nation, by the HUNDREDS...

Dont worry about those, they are reserved for trouble makers, you know the types. They want free speech and transparent goverment. I sure you know the kind.

Violates the constitution at every turn, even outright eliminating the 4th, 6th, and 14th amendments (while crippling the 1st and working on the 2nd), and makes it LEGAL to arrest people with no charge, and give them a LIFE SENTENCE, or even the DEATH PENALTY, never having been given a trial, and found guilty of ANYTHING...

Hey that legislation cost good money in donations and bribes, dont go bad mouthing off like that unless you want to see the inside of one of those camps now, move along.

And meanwhile, the people that brought all this about, are guilty of high treason against this nation, and can violate every law on the books, without being prosecuted, including insider trading, and hundreds of other laws, to help enrich themselves, and consolidate their power...

Hey bud I make the laws in this place, Jesus I paid enough for the privilage, so I'm hardly going to fall foul of these made up laws am I.

And then they label YOU as "anti-government", or as a "terrorist", if you hold the opinion that the "government is full of traitors, criminals, thieves, liars, hypocrites, perverts, racketeers, and every other sort of evil imaginable...

Hey all goverments are made up of traitors, criminals, thieves, liars, hypocrites, perverts, racketeers, and every other sort of evil imaginable, thats why I love them and look after them so well. Do you know how long it take to put that sort of system in place. My forefathers worked there socks off to make sure goverment was crooked from the start.


So YOU can be put away, tortured and executed for doing NOTHING but acknowledging or speaking the truth, but THEY cannot be prosecuted for any and all felonies imaginable?

I see you begining to understand my system now, thats good, now get back to work there's a good man.

Is this REALLY the country that Thomas Jefferson, John Hancock, Patrick Henry, George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, and all of the other "terrorists founded?

See my goverment answer above.

Am I living in the twilight zone, or is this a total Soviet/Deutschland repeat of history?

Hey It worked for the family there, it can work here just as well, dont knock a good think until you try it,

Just checking to see if I got this straight.

Sounds just fine to me

Your sincerly
The Rockefeller's

P.S. I really like this forum, its interesting to watch have the minds of the underling's work stuff out.
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Wonderful... Now we've got an internationalist shill from the UK chiming in with a bunch of distortions, and outright BULLSHIT.

How about all of you foreign fucks just stepping off, and getting the fuck out of here.
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Fabulous post OP.applause
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