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GOD has certainly revealed hIS LOVE for the world through hIS only begotten son JESUS CHRIST !!! [[Summary Page 33]]

 
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hi Lisa, what's new?
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 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


hi Lisa, what's new?
 Quoting: Once4All


Oh, nothing much. How about you?

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How are you possibly going to find Love with that kind of attitude? I don't know what is 'blocking' you from finding God. Perhaps you need to forgive someone or even yourself. But, i can tell you this, God manifests Himself to the MEEK and the POOR IN SPIRIT. I'm not hearing either one of those from you. Humble yourself before God and He will lift you up. Placing demands on Him won't do it!
 Quoting: Once4All


I am not DEMANDING anything..just asking for what is a natural huamn thing..to be LOVED..and to KNOW I am loved..not just told from some parrot..or book.

Is LOVE too much to ask for?

I used to be so soft..so gentle...so poor in spirit like you said..

But years have passed..all I DID have in my life that HAD any love vanished one by one...

IT HURTS..especially for a soft hearted person like me..

So am I to be CONDEMNED because I HURT??...cause I just want to be LOVED??

Time keeps ticking..soon will tick the final seconds of what has turned out for ME to be a complte waste of a life..

WHY?

I started out so well..so full of hope and joy and..well..its all gone...nothing left now but death..and an empty shell of what ONCE was a vibrant hope filled very much alive man..

What happenned to me??..where did my heart go?

Where did life go?

What was it all about anyway?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10978371


I don't believe your pity party. If you were meek and sought God wholeheartedly you would find Him. End of story.
 Quoting: Once4All


Wholeheartedly??

How can you search for God wholeheartedly when you dont have a WHOLE HEART?

What does it mean anyway??

Ive heard it so often..ive tried to do it..I spent years searching..looking...wondering...and ive come to the conclusion that I must have missed something along the way..IF there was something to be found then by now I SHOULD have found it.


How does one look for God wholeheartedly as YOU describe it?

I might have been taught wrong..I MUST have been taught wrong..because after over 40 years of journey..I have not found yet.

Seen glimpses..a few false hopes..mirages in the desert...but still no closer to when I set out to find.

Have I been going in circles then?

..following WORDS..that only lead to more emptyness?

Thats why at this stage of my life ive had enough...I have looked long and far...and found nothing but more words..more books..more doctrines..more CRAP..all meaningless.

I have looked up all my life asking WHERE..WHY?..HOW?

But silence reigns..

People talk about a PERSONAL encounter...thats all well and good if you have actually HAD one.

The last time I felt anything was over 30 years ago....and I was young and impressionable and blinly beleived whatever bullshit I was told..and blindly felt whatever THEy wanted me to feel.

So how does one find the answer among so many confusing and contradictory paths?

Seek and you shall find...

But ehere was no time limit on that...do I have to search another 30 years..not that I have that long..to finally FIND what it is I am looking for?

LOVE?..thats all..just love...

But all I find is more...emptiness.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10978371


I can tell you how to find Jesus, and once you do, HE will reveal His love towards you. No, not in person, but through the Holy spirit, which shall dwell in you once you accept Jesus into your heart. This might be hard for you to comprehend, b/c it is a supernatual event that occurs within ones soul/heart. I cannot describe it, nor do I totally understand it. I just know b/c it has happen to me personally.

BTW- its not too late at age 40, or for that matter at any age. I was 40 yrs of age when I found Jesus, I am now 56. Believe me or not, I know just where you are coming from, for I had those exact feeling you have described.

Now, how to find Jesus: I am sure there are other ways, but this is how I found the Lord Jesus Christ. Though I was quite skeptical, I decided to find out once and for all if Jesus was real or just a fairy tail. I prayed for Him to reveal Himself to me while reading the four gospels. I read the NIV version b/c at the time it was easier for me to understand. Well, to make a long story shorter, before I finished reading them for the first time the Lord had opened my eyes that He was indeed the Son of God, the savior of mankind, the messiah, and yes, He loved me with a love that was unseachable. At that very moment I fell on my kness and begged the Lord to forgive me and I asked Him to come into my life and become the Lord of my life. Thats when the power of the Holy Spirit came indwelled inside of me. Anyway I continued to read them (4 gospels) over and over again. I couldn't get enough of His Word, and by doing so my faith just kept growing and growing. since then I have read the bible in its entirety many times. It really is amazing that the more you read God's Word the more enlighten you become that it is indeed the true Word of God.

Sorry for rambling on, I just though that maybe my testimony might be of some value to you.

I hope you will make an honest effert to seek Him out. I would like to pray for you if you wouldn't mind.

Much love,
In Christ Jesus,
TW hf
DUST TO GLORY!!!
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love215985
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


hi Lisa, what's new?
 Quoting: Once4All


Oh, nothing much. How about you?

hf
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Just went for a walk in the snow with my kids.

Took about an hour!!!


tired
John 11:35 Jesus wept.

[link to www.savemenowjesus.com]

Have you given good points today?

EVERYONE who calls upon the LORD JESUS will be saved! [Romans 10:13]


Jesus Christ will return as King of all kings and Lord of all lords. :hf:
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I am not DEMANDING anything..just asking for what is a natural huamn thing..to be LOVED..and to KNOW I am loved..not just told from some parrot..or book.

Is LOVE too much to ask for?

I used to be so soft..so gentle...so poor in spirit like you said..

But years have passed..all I DID have in my life that HAD any love vanished one by one...

IT HURTS..especially for a soft hearted person like me..

So am I to be CONDEMNED because I HURT??...cause I just want to be LOVED??

Time keeps ticking..soon will tick the final seconds of what has turned out for ME to be a complte waste of a life..

WHY?

I started out so well..so full of hope and joy and..well..its all gone...nothing left now but death..and an empty shell of what ONCE was a vibrant hope filled very much alive man..

What happenned to me??..where did my heart go?

Where did life go?

What was it all about anyway?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10978371


I don't believe your pity party. If you were meek and sought God wholeheartedly you would find Him. End of story.
 Quoting: Once4All


Wholeheartedly??

How can you search for God wholeheartedly when you dont have a WHOLE HEART?

What does it mean anyway??

Ive heard it so often..ive tried to do it..I spent years searching..looking...wondering...and ive come to the conclusion that I must have missed something along the way..IF there was something to be found then by now I SHOULD have found it.


How does one look for God wholeheartedly as YOU describe it?

I might have been taught wrong..I MUST have been taught wrong..because after over 40 years of journey..I have not found yet.

Seen glimpses..a few false hopes..mirages in the desert...but still no closer to when I set out to find.

Have I been going in circles then?

..following WORDS..that only lead to more emptyness?

Thats why at this stage of my life ive had enough...I have looked long and far...and found nothing but more words..more books..more doctrines..more CRAP..all meaningless.

I have looked up all my life asking WHERE..WHY?..HOW?

But silence reigns..

People talk about a PERSONAL encounter...thats all well and good if you have actually HAD one.

The last time I felt anything was over 30 years ago....and I was young and impressionable and blinly beleived whatever bullshit I was told..and blindly felt whatever THEy wanted me to feel.

So how does one find the answer among so many confusing and contradictory paths?

Seek and you shall find...

But ehere was no time limit on that...do I have to search another 30 years..not that I have that long..to finally FIND what it is I am looking for?

LOVE?..thats all..just love...

But all I find is more...emptiness.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10978371


I can tell you how to find Jesus, and once you do, HE will reveal His love towards you. No, not in person, but through the Holy spirit, which shall dwell in you once you accept Jesus into your heart. This might be hard for you to comprehend, b/c it is a supernatual event that occurs within ones soul/heart. I cannot describe it, nor do I totally understand it. I just know b/c it has happen to me personally.

BTW- its not too late at age 40, or for that matter at any age. I was 40 yrs of age when I found Jesus, I am now 56. Believe me or not, I know just where you are coming from, for I had those exact feeling you have described.

Now, how to find Jesus: I am sure there are other ways, but this is how I found the Lord Jesus Christ. Though I was quite skeptical, I decided to find out once and for all if Jesus was real or just a fairy tail. I prayed for Him to reveal Himself to me while reading the four gospels. I read the NIV version b/c at the time it was easier for me to understand. Well, to make a long story shorter, before I finished reading them for the first time the Lord had opened my eyes that He was indeed the Son of God, the savior of mankind, the messiah, and yes, He loved me with a love that was unseachable. At that very moment I fell on my kness and begged the Lord to forgive me and I asked Him to come into my life and become the Lord of my life. Thats when the power of the Holy Spirit came indwelled inside of me. Anyway I continued to read them (4 gospels) over and over again. I couldn't get enough of His Word, and by doing so my faith just kept growing and growing. since then I have read the bible in its entirety many times. It really is amazing that the more you read God's Word the more enlighten you become that it is indeed the true Word of God.

Sorry for rambling on, I just though that maybe my testimony might be of some value to you.

I hope you will make an honest effert to seek Him out. I would like to pray for you if you wouldn't mind.

Much love,
In Christ Jesus,
TW hf
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


Excellent testimony TW. Maybe it will be its own

thread someday!!!


hf
John 11:35 Jesus wept.

[link to www.savemenowjesus.com]

Have you given good points today?

EVERYONE who calls upon the LORD JESUS will be saved! [Romans 10:13]


Jesus Christ will return as King of all kings and Lord of all lords. :hf:
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So true Once4All


Do not let any of that stuff stand between you and Lord. Cry out to Him. He is there......and even here right now.


Best wishes to you Simon.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10901497


:colorbump:

Amen. I think God is a lot closer to him than he

even knows!!! Otherwise, like he said, he wouldn't even

be talking about any of this.
 Quoting: Once4All


Simon, it sounds like at one time you knew Jesus. Sometimes I think its harder when you've walked away because its like your heart has become hardened. In my teenage years, I was on fire for God. I even went witnessing to the homeless in the parks. I had a passionate love for Jesus then that I have never been able to quite get back. I love Jesus, but I'vs lost the fire and drive that I had back then. I don't know if maybe it was because I was young and innocent, and hadn't been effected by this sinful world we live in.

Anyway, through prayer, and visiting with other Christians on this site, its coming back! I still need to read the Bible more, but there is another thing that seems to greatly help a hardened heart; Christian music. I thought I'd post a couple of my favorites. If you get time, please listen to the words and sing along to them as a prayer. It seems to really work. I believe God really loves us to sing to him in worship. I can really feel his presence through music more than at any time. Please give it a try! I'll be praying for you!







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hf
 Quoting: MercyMe


I Knew Him alright.

No one can tell me He is not real. Ive seen some amazing things.

In a way ive always known Him. I can see His fingerptints all over my life..even and especially during the times I was off doing my own thing...He was still there organising events..steeing the direction...when I could not walk..or WOULD not walk..even then He carried me.

He has let me walk whichever way I wanted too..but within guidlines and boundaries I could not cross. Like a racehorse..I was free to run anywhere I wanted on the track..I was free to run backwards if I liked..but I could never LEAVE the track....I am sure you know what I mean.

Once He has Got you..He has GOT you..and even in the times you just dont give a shit..or try NOT to give a shit (because deep down you always DO)....He is still there..directing..waiting..teaching..guiding...and yes..chastising.

Ive been doing a lot of questioning of late...letting it all out as it were. Ive had a lifetime of doctrinal crap..and dead ends lined up in front of me. I can see where I went wrong now...and thats why I dont go to church anymore..going to church is where I went wrong.

Church..with its systems..its arrogance..its greed and selfishness...is what took me away from the REAL path..onto a "RELIGIOUS" path of lies and deciet dressed up as ""Christianity"..when in fact its the darkest most deceptive place one can go.

If you want to destroy your relationship with Jesus...go to church.

If you want to learn how to be self righteous and learn how to hate people..go to church..if you want to feel all "Elite" and "Special" and "CHOSEN"..and inflate the pride and the ego..GO to church....

Church is the best way ti kill off a TRUE relationship with Jesus..because you have MEN..always trying to SELL something..a feeling..a good time..an "Anointing"..a book..a doctrine..all confusing and treacherous..

The focus is always on SELF and POWER...never on Jesus except as a way to boost ego..make more dollars...or feel "Special"..PRIDE..always pride...

I tried to Go to church last night..and God made sure I could not go..so I will not go to church ever again.

Church is what took me away from Him to start with.

I have grown more..learnt more..and matured far more since I STOPPED going to church. I have open eyes now that the "System" has no hold on me.

The anger I expressed in some of my other rants was a result of all that "Programming" coming out..and finding its release from within me.

Years of LIES..half truths..and distorted truths..all washing out.

Just in time too.

The end HAS come.

Seen it coming for a very very long time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10978371
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love215985
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


hi Lisa, what's new?
 Quoting: Once4All


Oh, nothing much. How about you?

hf
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Just went for a walk in the snow with my kids.

Took about an hour!!!


tired
 Quoting: Once4All


LMAO! That picture!!!!!! LOL!

banana2
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hi Lisa, what's new?
 Quoting: Once4All


Oh, nothing much. How about you?

hf
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Just went for a walk in the snow with my kids.

Took about an hour!!!


tired
 Quoting: Once4All


LMAO! That picture!!!!!! LOL!

banana2
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


ohyeah I just typed in 'tired' and that's what

came out! chorus

No school tomorrow..... yeah.
John 11:35 Jesus wept.

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Oh, nothing much. How about you?

hf
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Just went for a walk in the snow with my kids.

Took about an hour!!!


tired
 Quoting: Once4All


LMAO! That picture!!!!!! LOL!

banana2
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


ohyeah I just typed in 'tired' and that's what

came out! chorus

No school tomorrow..... yeah.
 Quoting: Once4All


Yeah, a day off!!!! Lord knows you need it!

afro
Have You Accepted Jesus As Your Savior Yet? What Are You Waiting For? Do you have questions about God or need someone to talk to? Email me at Lisalovesjesus7@gmail.com

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"If love were a tree, compassion would be its fruit." - unknown
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Just went for a walk in the snow with my kids.

Took about an hour!!!


tired
 Quoting: Once4All


LMAO! That picture!!!!!! LOL!

banana2
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


ohyeah I just typed in 'tired' and that's what

came out! chorus

No school tomorrow..... yeah.
 Quoting: Once4All


Yeah, a day off!!!! Lord knows you need it!

afro
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa



ana
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Jesus Christ will return as King of all kings and Lord of all lords. :hf:
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choruschoruschoruschoruschoruschoruschorus


penguinpenguinpenguin
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10901497


lol
John 11:35 Jesus wept.

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Hope that you are doing well OP.....and everyone.....on this day.



"The Lord is near to those who have a broken heart, and saves such as have a contrite spirit."


Ps 34:18


David



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Hope that you are doing well OP.....and everyone.....on this day.



"The Lord is near to those who have a broken heart, and saves such as have a contrite spirit."


Ps 34:18


David



penguin
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10901497


I'm doing very well, David, thanks for asking.

I've been enjoying this brief snowstorm that has been passing through. Looks like about 3 inches today but then it goes back to 50 degrees tomorrow. It is very pretty outside now!

Are you doing alright?
John 11:35 Jesus wept.

[link to www.savemenowjesus.com]

Have you given good points today?

EVERYONE who calls upon the LORD JESUS will be saved! [Romans 10:13]


Jesus Christ will return as King of all kings and Lord of all lords. :hf:
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Hope that you are doing well OP.....and everyone.....on this day.



"The Lord is near to those who have a broken heart, and saves such as have a contrite spirit."


Ps 34:18


David



penguin
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10901497


I'm doing very well, David, thanks for asking.

I've been enjoying this brief snowstorm that has been passing through. Looks like about 3 inches today but then it goes back to 50 degrees tomorrow. It is very pretty outside now!

Are you doing alright?
 Quoting: Once4All


Wow........snow. We have not had much of that here in Illinois this year. Very weird winter. Mild and dry.


I am doing OK....with God's help. Seems like there are more things to do with each passing year.......and it also seems like time is accelerating......making it harder to keep up with stuff. I have written reminder notes all over the place to do things......but then the notes get buried or lost.

:)


Oh well....you do what you can........and learn not to let the other stuff bother you.


Take Care and Best Wishes

David
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Hope that you are doing well OP.....and everyone.....on this day.



"The Lord is near to those who have a broken heart, and saves such as have a contrite spirit."


Ps 34:18


David



penguin
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10901497


I'm doing very well, David, thanks for asking.

I've been enjoying this brief snowstorm that has been passing through. Looks like about 3 inches today but then it goes back to 50 degrees tomorrow. It is very pretty outside now!

Are you doing alright?
 Quoting: Once4All


Wow........snow. We have not had much of that here in Illinois this year. Very weird winter. Mild and dry.


I am doing OK....with God's help. Seems like there are more things to do with each passing year.......and it also seems like time is accelerating......making it harder to keep up with stuff. I have written reminder notes all over the place to do things......but then the notes get buried or lost.

:)


Oh well....you do what you can........and learn not to let the other stuff bother you.


Take Care and Best Wishes

David
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10901497


I agree. There is a lot going on in the world right now...

especially with Iran [Persia]. The battle lines are drawn

and the players all have their warships in the area. God

help us all if someone decides to pull the trigger!!!


May the Lord Jesus Christ keep you in His peace. hf
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(Quoted by Simon) I thought I'd shorten this posting a little.

I Knew Him alright.


No one can tell me He is not real. Ive seen some amazing things.

In a way ive always known Him. I can see His fingerptints all over my life..even and especially during the times I was off doing my own thing...He was still there organising events..steeing the direction...when I could not walk..or WOULD not walk..even then He carried me.

He has let me walk whichever way I wanted too..but within guidlines and boundaries I could not cross. Like a racehorse..I was free to run anywhere I wanted on the track..I was free to run backwards if I liked..but I could never LEAVE the track....I am sure you know what I mean.

Once He has Got you..He has GOT you..and even in the times you just dont give a shit..or try NOT to give a shit (because deep down you always DO)....He is still there..directing..waiting..teaching..guiding...and yes..chastising.

Ive been doing a lot of questioning of late...letting it all out as it were. Ive had a lifetime of doctrinal crap..and dead ends lined up in front of me. I can see where I went wrong now...and thats why I dont go to church anymore..going to church is where I went wrong.

Church..with its systems..its arrogance..its greed and selfishness...is what took me away from the REAL path..onto a "RELIGIOUS" path of lies and deciet dressed up as ""Christianity"..when in fact its the darkest most deceptive place one can go.

If you want to destroy your relationship with Jesus...go to church.

If you want to learn how to be self righteous and learn how to hate people..go to church..if you want to feel all "Elite" and "Special" and "CHOSEN"..and inflate the pride and the ego..GO to church....

Church is the best way ti kill off a TRUE relationship with Jesus..because you have MEN..always trying to SELL something..a feeling..a good time..an "Anointing"..a book..a doctrine..all confusing and treacherous..

The focus is always on SELF and POWER...never on Jesus except as a way to boost ego..make more dollars...or feel "Special"..PRIDE..always pride...

I tried to Go to church last night..and God made sure I could not go..so I will not go to church ever again.

Church is what took me away from Him to start with.

I have grown more..learnt more..and matured far more since I STOPPED going to church. I have open eyes now that the "System" has no hold on me.

The anger I expressed in some of my other rants was a result of all that "Programming" coming out..and finding its release from within me.

Years of LIES..half truths..and distorted truths..all washing out.

Just in time too.

The end HAS come.

Seen it coming for a very very long time.



Hi Simon! You've probably heard the old saying, "You can run, but you can't hide!" I think that is how it is with Jesus. Once you've accepted him as your Lord and Savior, he is not going to stop dealing with you, even if you turn your back on him. The Holy Spirit will keep at you until you come back into the fold. It sounds like he is really dealing with you strongly now. I think you should not totally dismiss seeking out a good church. A non-denominational one or just a Bible church where they don't teach doctrine, but just read scripture and sing songs might be a good place to start.

If you still totally reject the idea of finding a church, then just start reading the Bible and listen to the new Christian music video's that are posted alot on the different Christian threads here on GLP. Get involved with the other Christians here. They will help steer you down the right path. Search out threads started by Once4all, Troubled Waters, Lisa*Lisa, AmazingGrace, and Koffee. They are all strong Christians that can help you. They've helped me!

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(Quoted by Simon) I thought I'd shorten this posting a little.

I Knew Him alright.


No one can tell me He is not real. Ive seen some amazing things.

In a way ive always known Him. I can see His fingerptints all over my life..even and especially during the times I was off doing my own thing...He was still there organising events..steeing the direction...when I could not walk..or WOULD not walk..even then He carried me.

He has let me walk whichever way I wanted too..but within guidlines and boundaries I could not cross. Like a racehorse..I was free to run anywhere I wanted on the track..I was free to run backwards if I liked..but I could never LEAVE the track....I am sure you know what I mean.

Once He has Got you..He has GOT you..and even in the times you just dont give a shit..or try NOT to give a shit (because deep down you always DO)....He is still there..directing..waiting..teaching..guiding...and yes..chastising.

Ive been doing a lot of questioning of late...letting it all out as it were. Ive had a lifetime of doctrinal crap..and dead ends lined up in front of me. I can see where I went wrong now...and thats why I dont go to church anymore..going to church is where I went wrong.

Church..with its systems..its arrogance..its greed and selfishness...is what took me away from the REAL path..onto a "RELIGIOUS" path of lies and deciet dressed up as ""Christianity"..when in fact its the darkest most deceptive place one can go.

If you want to destroy your relationship with Jesus...go to church.

If you want to learn how to be self righteous and learn how to hate people..go to church..if you want to feel all "Elite" and "Special" and "CHOSEN"..and inflate the pride and the ego..GO to church....

Church is the best way ti kill off a TRUE relationship with Jesus..because you have MEN..always trying to SELL something..a feeling..a good time..an "Anointing"..a book..a doctrine..all confusing and treacherous..

The focus is always on SELF and POWER...never on Jesus except as a way to boost ego..make more dollars...or feel "Special"..PRIDE..always pride...

I tried to Go to church last night..and God made sure I could not go..so I will not go to church ever again.

Church is what took me away from Him to start with.

I have grown more..learnt more..and matured far more since I STOPPED going to church. I have open eyes now that the "System" has no hold on me.

The anger I expressed in some of my other rants was a result of all that "Programming" coming out..and finding its release from within me.

Years of LIES..half truths..and distorted truths..all washing out.

Just in time too.

The end HAS come.

Seen it coming for a very very long time.
 Quoting: MercyMe



Hi Simon! You've probably heard the old saying, "You can run, but you can't hide!" I think that is how it is with Jesus. Once you've accepted him as your Lord and Savior, he is not going to stop dealing with you, even if you turn your back on him. The Holy Spirit will keep at you until you come back into the fold. It sounds like he is really dealing with you strongly now. I think you should not totally dismiss seeking out a good church. A non-denominational one or just a Bible church where they don't teach doctrine, but just read scripture and sing songs might be a good place to start.

If you still totally reject the idea of finding a church, then just start reading the Bible and listen to the new Christian music video's that are posted alot on the different Christian threads here on GLP. Get involved with the other Christians here. They will help steer you down the right path. Search out threads started by Once4all, Troubled Waters, Lisa*Lisa, AmazingGrace, and Koffee. They are all strong Christians that can help you. They've helped me!

hf


===============MercyMe above here, Once4All below=======
Hi Simon, I'm sorry i did not see your post. Thanks Mercy Me for highlighting it!

Jesus Christ is the most important thing in your life....

that is what matters Most. I'm happy He has you and you

have Him. May the Lord Jesus keep you in His peace.


hf

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Best Wishes Simon


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hi TW

Praise God!!!
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Thanks Friend for the bump
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So true Once4All


Do not let any of that stuff stand between you and Lord. Cry out to Him. He is there......and even here right now.


Best wishes to you Simon.
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colorbump

Amen. I think God is a lot closer to him than he

even knows!!! Otherwise, like he said, he wouldn't even

be talking about any of this.
 Quoting: Once4All


Simon, it sounds like at one time you knew Jesus. Sometimes I think its harder when you've walked away because its like your heart has become hardened. In my teenage years, I was on fire for God. I even went witnessing to the homeless in the parks. I had a passionate love for Jesus then that I have never been able to quite get back. I love Jesus, but I'vs lost the fire and drive that I had back then. I don't know if maybe it was because I was young and innocent, and hadn't been effected by this sinful world we live in.

Anyway, through prayer, and visiting with other Christians on this site, its coming back! I still need to read the Bible more, but there is another thing that seems to greatly help a hardened heart; Christian music. I thought I'd post a couple of my favorites. If you get time, please listen to the words and sing along to them as a prayer. It seems to really work. I believe God really loves us to sing to him in worship. I can really feel his presence through music more than at any time. Please give it a try! I'll be praying for you!







edited to add 1 more favorite:



hf
 Quoting: MercyMe


I Knew Him alright.

No one can tell me He is not real. Ive seen some amazing things.

In a way ive always known Him. I can see His fingerptints all over my life..even and especially during the times I was off doing my own thing...He was still there organising events..steeing the direction...when I could not walk..or WOULD not walk..even then He carried me.

He has let me walk whichever way I wanted too..but within guidlines and boundaries I could not cross. Like a racehorse..I was free to run anywhere I wanted on the track..I was free to run backwards if I liked..but I could never LEAVE the track....I am sure you know what I mean.

Once He has Got you..He has GOT you..and even in the times you just dont give a shit..or try NOT to give a shit (because deep down you always DO)....He is still there..directing..waiting..teaching..guiding...and yes..chastising.

Ive been doing a lot of questioning of late...letting it all out as it were. Ive had a lifetime of doctrinal crap..and dead ends lined up in front of me. I can see where I went wrong now...and thats why I dont go to church anymore..going to church is where I went wrong.

Church..with its systems..its arrogance..its greed and selfishness...is what took me away from the REAL path..onto a "RELIGIOUS" path of lies and deciet dressed up as ""Christianity"..when in fact its the darkest most deceptive place one can go.

If you want to destroy your relationship with Jesus...go to church.

If you want to learn how to be self righteous and learn how to hate people..go to church..if you want to feel all "Elite" and "Special" and "CHOSEN"..and inflate the pride and the ego..GO to church....

Church is the best way ti kill off a TRUE relationship with Jesus..because you have MEN..always trying to SELL something..a feeling..a good time..an "Anointing"..a book..a doctrine..all confusing and treacherous..

The focus is always on SELF and POWER...never on Jesus except as a way to boost ego..make more dollars...or feel "Special"..PRIDE..always pride...

I tried to God to church last night..and God made sure I could not go..so I will not go to church ever again.

Church is what took me away from Him to start with.

I have grown more..learnt more..and matured far more since I STOPPED going to church. I have open eyes now that the "System" has no hold on me.

The anger I expressed in some of my other rants was a result of all that "Programming" coming out..and finding its release from within me.

Years of LIES..half truths..and distorted truths..all washing out.

Just in time too.

The end HAS come.

Seen it coming for a very very long time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10978371


Simon,

With regards to churches, there are the good, the bad and the worst. Unfortunately, in these last days, finding a good church is rare.

The LORD has shown me quite a few things about the today's church. They are sleeping. As a matter of fact, I got another 'word' last week about....

'they are sound asleep.'

Here are the two lessons I've learned lately about the churches that I feel are VERY important:

1) You MUST forgive all people in the churches who have hurt or offended you in any way. THIS IS OF UTMOST importance. Do not harbor any bitterness or anger. Forgive them so your HEAVENLY FATHER can forgive you.

2) In looking for a 'good' church, it must have 2 things working in unison: the preaching of the WORD and the SPIRIT working with the gifts of the Spirit. One without the other will produce wrong fruit and will cause all kinds of problems. This is what I believe is happening today in the churches. They have one but not the other.
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^^^^Great Advice^^^^

Thanks Grace


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God loves you this much:

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However, sin will destroy you if YOU let it!
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Good morning Once4all and everyone else ! May Jesus Bless your day completely ! The Love of Jesus is the most Magnificent , indescribable Love I have ever felt in my entire life !! Our God is a merciful God ! I never knew what His Love was until it happened to me and I was finally able to see how he loves ALL of us..wow..overwhelming and inner dwelling most powerful Love of all..Nothing compares !!!!!!y_lovin
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"If you love Me, keep My commandments, And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever, even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you.

"I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you.


"These things I have spoken to you while being present with you. But the Comforter, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.



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Good morning Once4all and everyone else ! May Jesus Bless your day completely ! The Love of Jesus is the most Magnificent , indescribable Love I have ever felt in my entire life !! Our God is a merciful God ! I never knew what His Love was until it happened to me and I was finally able to see how he loves ALL of us..wow..overwhelming and inner dwelling most powerful Love of all..Nothing compares !!!!!!y_lovin
 Quoting: Lion of Judah


Well said my dear friend. Thanks for posting!


hf
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Have you given good points today?

EVERYONE who calls upon the LORD JESUS will be saved! [Romans 10:13]


Jesus Christ will return as King of all kings and Lord of all lords. :hf:

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