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Salt![]() Forum Moderator User ID: 1313099 01/07/2012 06:56 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | all the angels are created as beings of light. when the fallen angels left, they became beings of fire. these are the ones who need craft to travel to and fro. light travels differently and can do so without the aid of machines and instruments. "The only religion that God the Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being ensnared by the world." --James 1:27 -- “Read everything, listen to everybody, don’t trust anything unless you can prove it with your own research” --William Cooper --- He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you? To seek justice, to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God. --Michah 6:8 |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1201807 01/07/2012 06:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is very interesting. Quoting: ThereIsOnlyONElaw when you get into the ufo info it is said that the Orion group uses UFOs. this shouldn't imply that all 'aliens' are evil, but a being doing work for Creator (such as angels and light beings) won't need technology to appear to you. I believe that as well. God doesn't need spaceships to travel in a universe that He created. |
| Lisa*Lisa (OP) User ID: 1106916 01/07/2012 07:00 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is very interesting. Quoting: ThereIsOnlyONElaw when you get into the ufo info it is said that the Orion group uses UFOs. this shouldn't imply that all 'aliens' are evil, but a being doing work for Creator (such as angels and light beings) won't need technology to appear to you. I believe that as well. God doesn't need spaceships to travel in a universe that He created. all the angels are created as beings of light. when the fallen angels left, they became beings of fire. these are the ones who need craft to travel to and fro. light travels differently and can do so without the aid of machines and instruments. Quoting: Salt Yep! Have You Accepted Jesus As Your Savior Yet? What Are You Waiting For? Do you have questions about God or need someone to talk to? Email me at Lisalovesjesus7@gmail.com ____________________________ "If love were a tree, compassion would be its fruit." "If the mountain were smooth, you couldn't climb it." "Tell them, I love them" - Jesus Christ ____________________________ A dear friend's website [link to www.savemenowjesus.com] _____________________________ 2 Corinthians 12:9 - "Each time he said, "My grace is all you need. My power works best in weakness." So now I am glad to boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ can work through me." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1506155 01/07/2012 07:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is really interesting, just sharing this article I came across this morning. Quoting: Lisa*Lisa "Lift up your eyes and see what this is that goes forth...and this is their resemblance throughout the earth...Here is a metallic disk lifted up...This is Wickedness" Zechariah 5:5-8p "Many People have asked why they cannot find "metallic disk" in this text of scripture. In the King James version, it says, "talent of lead". The NIV which is not a word by word translation but a translation based on idea and concepts, calls this a "cover of lead". In context ,while this object is used as a cover, this form of translation ignores the actual Hebrew word and its literal meaning, which is describing the shape. By going back to the literal words and their consistent usage elsewhere in the Bible we find these facts: There are two words used to describe a cover. One describes the shape, one describes the color combined, they are telling you the overall appearance of something that is used as a cover. Here are the actual words and their meaning: Talent in the Hebrew, is the word Kikkar Strong's number 3603 it means a circle, round and flat i.e. disk the same word is used for describing a type of coin and bread (eastern bread was round and flat just like their coins.) Lead, the other word in Hebrew, is Owphereth Strong's number 5777, it means lead from it's dusty color. It is a feminine participle of Strong's number 6080 a primitive root, to be gray. The overall emphasis is not the lead itself but it's appearance; lead being a metal and a dusty gray color is therefore a dull gray or metallic appearance. The main description means round and flat what we would call a disk and a metallic appearance. So there is no scripture twisting going on here. I am not injecting anything into this scripture but rather bringing out what is already there based on the potential meaning of the ancient words. This object is used as a cover for an evil which is inside the ephah. Ephah (#374) is a Hebrew word for a measurement. It is a standard unit of measurement or an object (in this case a woven basket) which holds that quantity of something. It culturally is the same as our use of the word cup. Something symbolizing evil is inside the measurement. The woman in the measurement is symbolic of the woman who rides the beast of Revelation 19, the whore of Babylon. She is the false religious system who has been the focus of worship in every major empire ( 7 ) that has ever existed and will be the final one of the eighth empire. She is introduced in a measurement, (This ties into my friend Dave Flynn's work on the occult significance of the Roswell crash of 1947 as deciphered measurements and date which were determined by his understanding of the occult. It reveals a plan from Satan to deceive the whole world at a location and time: ie: Roswell 1947.)" Read the whole article at the link below: [link to www.echoesofenoch.com] This is what I read Zechariah 5:5-8 King James Version (KJV) 5Then the angel that talked with me went forth, and said unto me, Lift up now thine eyes, and see what is this that goeth forth. 6And I said, What is it? And he said, This is an ephah that goeth forth. He said moreover, This is their resemblance through all the earth. 7And, behold, there was lifted up a talent of lead: and this is a woman that sitteth in the midst of the ephah. 8And he said, This is wickedness. And he cast it into the midst of the ephah; and he cast the weight of lead upon the mouth thereof. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 2081064 01/07/2012 07:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Aliens are not demons. Quoting: Water Wizard Matthias Out of the trillions of stars and billions of planets, there is no way we are the only one with intelligent life (capable of meta-thinking, which is using our brains to analyze the way we think. Using thinking to think about thinking). Other species are out there. It is a matter of simple probability. One (Earth) / (Divided by) # (planets capable of supporting life = the . (point) something chance we are the only ones with life. 1 / x = .???????????????????????... where the .???... is the chances we are the only planet with life. So preach all day about aliens not being real.... ![]() ![]() ![]() aliens do exist. If you believe in the Bible, then aliens ARE fallen angels. their is no difference whatsoever. Of course their are other lifeforms other than humans, we all know that. If fallen angels can transform into "beautiful" angels of light from their decayed serpent appearance, they can certainly shapeshift their molecular structure to that of what many know as a grey. This could be done physically OR metaphysically in dreams and such through astral projection. Aliens and demons ARE the same thing. As are demons and fallen angels. "If you believe the Bible" thats the key. Have to remember that the bible was translated from earlier, closer to the source writtings. Then you get the Romans & the Pope getting involved with Constantine at Nascea. They specifally left our parts that point to the origin of man coming from another planet, and painting that anything from elswhere is evil like what you call an alien. This was done to give more power to the Catholic church and Vatican. They twisted the truths for money and power consolidation. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 2081064 01/07/2012 07:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is very interesting. Quoting: ThereIsOnlyONElaw when you get into the ufo info it is said that the Orion group uses UFOs. this shouldn't imply that all 'aliens' are evil, but a being doing work for Creator (such as angels and light beings) won't need technology to appear to you. I believe that as well. God doesn't need spaceships to travel in a universe that He created. I'm sure since he's been around for millions of years his technology has surpassed the need for spaceships |
| Amy_A User ID: 1447484 01/07/2012 07:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lisa your aliens that you call demonic run this country. If you want to see real evil just turn on the tube and watch them kill millions of humans. I get sick of seeing people talk about Aliens in space ships when they are here now. They control the churches, business, food supply, water, air. They are the real enemies from another dimension but people want to look outside the earth. Do you think Jesus enjoys the modern day church, and all the two faced hypocrites that come from it? The church has been taken over years ago in order to control peoples minds. If you don't think the Gov. runs the church find out if they are tax deductible. If they are then they have to follow what they are told to preach. Peace Amy |
| Lisa*Lisa (OP) User ID: 1106916 01/07/2012 07:15 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lisa your aliens that you call demonic run this country. If you want to see real evil just turn on the tube and watch them kill millions of humans. I get sick of seeing people talk about Aliens in space ships when they are here now. They control the churches, business, food supply, water, air. They are the real enemies from another dimension but people want to look outside the earth. Quoting: Amy_A Do you think Jesus enjoys the modern day church, and all the two faced hypocrites that come from it? The church has been taken over years ago in order to control peoples minds. If you don't think the Gov. runs the church find out if they are tax deductible. If they are then they have to follow what they are told to preach. Peace I know. Have You Accepted Jesus As Your Savior Yet? What Are You Waiting For? Do you have questions about God or need someone to talk to? Email me at Lisalovesjesus7@gmail.com ____________________________ "If love were a tree, compassion would be its fruit." "If the mountain were smooth, you couldn't climb it." "Tell them, I love them" - Jesus Christ ____________________________ A dear friend's website [link to www.savemenowjesus.com] _____________________________ 2 Corinthians 12:9 - "Each time he said, "My grace is all you need. My power works best in weakness." So now I am glad to boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ can work through me." |
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| Amy_A User ID: 1447484 01/07/2012 07:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lisa your aliens that you call demonic run this country. If you want to see real evil just turn on the tube and watch them kill millions of humans. I get sick of seeing people talk about Aliens in space ships when they are here now. They control the churches, business, food supply, water, air. They are the real enemies from another dimension but people want to look outside the earth. Quoting: Amy_A Do you think Jesus enjoys the modern day church, and all the two faced hypocrites that come from it? The church has been taken over years ago in order to control peoples minds. If you don't think the Gov. runs the church find out if they are tax deductible. If they are then they have to follow what they are told to preach. Peace I know. That is the real scary part. Have no fear if you believe in God. I became much closer to God when I left the church and all the liars I saw there. Peace to you friend Last Edited by Amy_A on 01/07/2012 07:20 PM Amy |
| Lisa*Lisa (OP) User ID: 1106916 01/07/2012 07:19 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lisa your aliens that you call demonic run this country. If you want to see real evil just turn on the tube and watch them kill millions of humans. I get sick of seeing people talk about Aliens in space ships when they are here now. They control the churches, business, food supply, water, air. They are the real enemies from another dimension but people want to look outside the earth. Quoting: Amy_A Do you think Jesus enjoys the modern day church, and all the two faced hypocrites that come from it? The church has been taken over years ago in order to control peoples minds. If you don't think the Gov. runs the church find out if they are tax deductible. If they are then they have to follow what they are told to preach. Peace I know. That is the real scary part. Have no fear if you believe in God. Peace to you friend Yep, absolutely! Trust in Him and everything will be ok. Scary times we live in. Have You Accepted Jesus As Your Savior Yet? What Are You Waiting For? Do you have questions about God or need someone to talk to? Email me at Lisalovesjesus7@gmail.com ____________________________ "If love were a tree, compassion would be its fruit." "If the mountain were smooth, you couldn't climb it." "Tell them, I love them" - Jesus Christ ____________________________ A dear friend's website [link to www.savemenowjesus.com] _____________________________ 2 Corinthians 12:9 - "Each time he said, "My grace is all you need. My power works best in weakness." So now I am glad to boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ can work through me." |
| ttowngirl User ID: 4925200 01/07/2012 07:20 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | EPHAH meaning Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1506155 Hebrew unit of dry measure: an ancient Hebrew unit of dry measure, roughly equivalent to a bushel or 33 liters why did you insert metallic disk and change the verse and omit EPHAH? maybe that is why the ufos make images in fields |
| Amy_A User ID: 1447484 01/07/2012 07:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lisa your aliens that you call demonic run this country. If you want to see real evil just turn on the tube and watch them kill millions of humans. I get sick of seeing people talk about Aliens in space ships when they are here now. They control the churches, business, food supply, water, air. They are the real enemies from another dimension but people want to look outside the earth. Quoting: Amy_A Do you think Jesus enjoys the modern day church, and all the two faced hypocrites that come from it? The church has been taken over years ago in order to control peoples minds. If you don't think the Gov. runs the church find out if they are tax deductible. If they are then they have to follow what they are told to preach. Peace I know. That is the real scary part. Have no fear if you believe in God. Peace to you friend Yep, absolutely! Trust in Him and everything will be ok. Scary times we live in. Amy |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 2238185 01/07/2012 07:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lisa your aliens that you call demonic run this country. If you want to see real evil just turn on the tube and watch them kill millions of humans. I get sick of seeing people talk about Aliens in space ships when they are here now. They control the churches, business, food supply, water, air. They are the real enemies from another dimension but people want to look outside the earth. Quoting: Amy_A Do you think Jesus enjoys the modern day church, and all the two faced hypocrites that come from it? The church has been taken over years ago in order to control peoples minds. If you don't think the Gov. runs the church find out if they are tax deductible. If they are then they have to follow what they are told to preach. Peace not ALL of the churches....there are still few that walk in the spirit of Christ. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1336018 01/07/2012 07:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is really interesting, just sharing this article I came across this morning. Quoting: Lisa*Lisa "Lift up your eyes and see what this is that goes forth...and this is their resemblance throughout the earth...Here is a metallic disk lifted up...This is Wickedness" Zechariah 5:5-8p "Many People have asked why they cannot find "metallic disk" in this text of scripture. In the King James version, it says, "talent of lead". The NIV which is not a word by word translation but a translation based on idea and concepts, calls this a "cover of lead". In context ,while this object is used as a cover, this form of translation ignores the actual Hebrew word and its literal meaning, which is describing the shape. By going back to the literal words and their consistent usage elsewhere in the Bible we find these facts: There are two words used to describe a cover. One describes the shape, one describes the color combined, they are telling you the overall appearance of something that is used as a cover. Here are the actual words and their meaning: Talent in the Hebrew, is the word Kikkar Strong's number 3603 it means a circle, round and flat i.e. disk the same word is used for describing a type of coin and bread (eastern bread was round and flat just like their coins.) Lead, the other word in Hebrew, is Owphereth Strong's number 5777, it means lead from it's dusty color. It is a feminine participle of Strong's number 6080 a primitive root, to be gray. The overall emphasis is not the lead itself but it's appearance; lead being a metal and a dusty gray color is therefore a dull gray or metallic appearance. The main description means round and flat what we would call a disk and a metallic appearance. So there is no scripture twisting going on here. I am not injecting anything into this scripture but rather bringing out what is already there based on the potential meaning of the ancient words. This object is used as a cover for an evil which is inside the ephah. Ephah (#374) is a Hebrew word for a measurement. It is a standard unit of measurement or an object (in this case a woven basket) which holds that quantity of something. It culturally is the same as our use of the word cup. Something symbolizing evil is inside the measurement. The woman in the measurement is symbolic of the woman who rides the beast of Revelation 19, the whore of Babylon. She is the false religious system who has been the focus of worship in every major empire ( 7 ) that has ever existed and will be the final one of the eighth empire. She is introduced in a measurement, (This ties into my friend Dave Flynn's work on the occult significance of the Roswell crash of 1947 as deciphered measurements and date which were determined by his understanding of the occult. It reveals a plan from Satan to deceive the whole world at a location and time: ie: Roswell 1947.)" Read the whole article at the link below: [link to www.echoesofenoch.com] What a load of bull. The bible never mentioned metallic disk. It is made up as you go along crap. I am fairly sure if there is such thing as evil it resides on Earth already. It is the world leaders for starters and what exactly has religion done to help the world and it's current mess? Yes God does not need a UFO to travel but I bet in this vast universe that he has created other beings which would probably be alot more advanced then a human being. After all it is the humans that have wars and persecute each other etc, not aliens. Religion has kept with the same rants since dark ages and beyond. Nothing new, nothing at all. Same old cult minds. |
| Lisa*Lisa (OP) User ID: 1106916 01/07/2012 07:29 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is really interesting, just sharing this article I came across this morning. Quoting: Lisa*Lisa "Lift up your eyes and see what this is that goes forth...and this is their resemblance throughout the earth...Here is a metallic disk lifted up...This is Wickedness" Zechariah 5:5-8p "Many People have asked why they cannot find "metallic disk" in this text of scripture. In the King James version, it says, "talent of lead". The NIV which is not a word by word translation but a translation based on idea and concepts, calls this a "cover of lead". In context ,while this object is used as a cover, this form of translation ignores the actual Hebrew word and its literal meaning, which is describing the shape. By going back to the literal words and their consistent usage elsewhere in the Bible we find these facts: There are two words used to describe a cover. One describes the shape, one describes the color combined, they are telling you the overall appearance of something that is used as a cover. Here are the actual words and their meaning: Talent in the Hebrew, is the word Kikkar Strong's number 3603 it means a circle, round and flat i.e. disk the same word is used for describing a type of coin and bread (eastern bread was round and flat just like their coins.) Lead, the other word in Hebrew, is Owphereth Strong's number 5777, it means lead from it's dusty color. It is a feminine participle of Strong's number 6080 a primitive root, to be gray. The overall emphasis is not the lead itself but it's appearance; lead being a metal and a dusty gray color is therefore a dull gray or metallic appearance. The main description means round and flat what we would call a disk and a metallic appearance. So there is no scripture twisting going on here. I am not injecting anything into this scripture but rather bringing out what is already there based on the potential meaning of the ancient words. This object is used as a cover for an evil which is inside the ephah. Ephah (#374) is a Hebrew word for a measurement. It is a standard unit of measurement or an object (in this case a woven basket) which holds that quantity of something. It culturally is the same as our use of the word cup. Something symbolizing evil is inside the measurement. The woman in the measurement is symbolic of the woman who rides the beast of Revelation 19, the whore of Babylon. She is the false religious system who has been the focus of worship in every major empire ( 7 ) that has ever existed and will be the final one of the eighth empire. She is introduced in a measurement, (This ties into my friend Dave Flynn's work on the occult significance of the Roswell crash of 1947 as deciphered measurements and date which were determined by his understanding of the occult. It reveals a plan from Satan to deceive the whole world at a location and time: ie: Roswell 1947.)" Read the whole article at the link below: [link to www.echoesofenoch.com] What a load of bull. The bible never mentioned metallic disk. It is made up as you go along crap. I am fairly sure if there is such thing as evil it resides on Earth already. It is the world leaders for starters and what exactly has religion done to help the world and it's current mess? Yes God does not need a UFO to travel but I bet in this vast universe that he has created other beings which would probably be alot more advanced then a human being. After all it is the humans that have wars and persecute each other etc, not aliens. Religion has kept with the same rants since dark ages and beyond. Nothing new, nothing at all. Same old cult minds. Before you make a judgment call on the guy, check out his website, a ton of info on there and it's very well researched. Have You Accepted Jesus As Your Savior Yet? What Are You Waiting For? Do you have questions about God or need someone to talk to? Email me at Lisalovesjesus7@gmail.com ____________________________ "If love were a tree, compassion would be its fruit." "If the mountain were smooth, you couldn't climb it." "Tell them, I love them" - Jesus Christ ____________________________ A dear friend's website [link to www.savemenowjesus.com] _____________________________ 2 Corinthians 12:9 - "Each time he said, "My grace is all you need. My power works best in weakness." So now I am glad to boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ can work through me." |
| bigD111 User ID: 4221691 01/07/2012 07:41 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | that is interesting Anonymous, about the Dome being a lead disc. It just points out how many ways things can be interpreted. I believe it is referring to ufos, but I can see your point. Fortunately it is not a salvation issue and therefore is not of critical importance. It just points out how diverse the bible is and can be interpreted. Did you know there are 36,000 denominations in the USA alone. Crazy. I have observed a ufo last Mar 29 for nearly two hours as it did all sorts of things in the sky. Amazing. Two years ago or so, I had a dream of a ufo shooting down an american air force plane by my house. The plane though was a two seater?? Several months back, the air force announced they were taking F15's away from the Air National Guard and replacing them with these two seaters made for short runways. I about crapped my pants, because it was the plane I saw in my dream. |
| CharlotteTheHarlot User ID: 2238185 01/07/2012 07:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is really interesting, just sharing this article I came across this morning. Quoting: Lisa*Lisa "Lift up your eyes and see what this is that goes forth...and this is their resemblance throughout the earth...Here is a metallic disk lifted up...This is Wickedness" Zechariah 5:5-8p "Many People have asked why they cannot find "metallic disk" in this text of scripture. In the King James version, it says, "talent of lead". The NIV which is not a word by word translation but a translation based on idea and concepts, calls this a "cover of lead". In context ,while this object is used as a cover, this form of translation ignores the actual Hebrew word and its literal meaning, which is describing the shape. By going back to the literal words and their consistent usage elsewhere in the Bible we find these facts: There are two words used to describe a cover. One describes the shape, one describes the color combined, they are telling you the overall appearance of something that is used as a cover. Here are the actual words and their meaning: Talent in the Hebrew, is the word Kikkar Strong's number 3603 it means a circle, round and flat i.e. disk the same word is used for describing a type of coin and bread (eastern bread was round and flat just like their coins.) Lead, the other word in Hebrew, is Owphereth Strong's number 5777, it means lead from it's dusty color. It is a feminine participle of Strong's number 6080 a primitive root, to be gray. The overall emphasis is not the lead itself but it's appearance; lead being a metal and a dusty gray color is therefore a dull gray or metallic appearance. The main description means round and flat what we would call a disk and a metallic appearance. So there is no scripture twisting going on here. I am not injecting anything into this scripture but rather bringing out what is already there based on the potential meaning of the ancient words. This object is used as a cover for an evil which is inside the ephah. Ephah (#374) is a Hebrew word for a measurement. It is a standard unit of measurement or an object (in this case a woven basket) which holds that quantity of something. It culturally is the same as our use of the word cup. Something symbolizing evil is inside the measurement. The woman in the measurement is symbolic of the woman who rides the beast of Revelation 19, the whore of Babylon. She is the false religious system who has been the focus of worship in every major empire ( 7 ) that has ever existed and will be the final one of the eighth empire. She is introduced in a measurement, (This ties into my friend Dave Flynn's work on the occult significance of the Roswell crash of 1947 as deciphered measurements and date which were determined by his understanding of the occult. It reveals a plan from Satan to deceive the whole world at a location and time: ie: Roswell 1947.)" Read the whole article at the link below: [link to www.echoesofenoch.com] What a load of bull. The bible never mentioned metallic disk. It is made up as you go along crap. I am fairly sure if there is such thing as evil it resides on Earth already. It is the world leaders for starters and what exactly has religion done to help the world and it's current mess? Yes God does not need a UFO to travel but I bet in this vast universe that he has created other beings which would probably be alot more advanced then a human being. After all it is the humans that have wars and persecute each other etc, not aliens. Religion has kept with the same rants since dark ages and beyond. Nothing new, nothing at all. Same old cult minds. IF there is such thing as evil? have you NOT been alive the within the PAST several decades? yes, it resides on Earth, YES THAT evil runs the planet. Religion is MAN made laws...Check out the Vatican & other 'cult' churches. God is spirit, there are God-like spirits, there are evil spirits, they happen to be IN BODIES. God tells us that what we are at war with is NOT of our flesh & blood.....alien? I would suggest that you do some RESEARCH on WHO runs the world & HAS since the beginning of man....same bloodline, same wickedness. Don't 'make up' what you 'think' makes sense. You have been blindly mislead. Remember...Satans biggest trick was teaching the world that he doesn't exist. He is throughout in EVERYTHING in society. Please, wake up to KNOW the difference. |
| bigD111 User ID: 4221691 01/07/2012 07:47 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In regards to the Zechariah verses dealing with the lead disc. It states in Zechariah that there is a woman in it, and then says it is evil. I read an account from the 1800's on another site of a Japanese fishing village who discovered a ufo floating in the water. They retrieved it and a woman was inside that had red hair. She was clutching a metal box in her hands and would not allow anyone access to it. After discussion, they decided she was evil and put her back out to sea. When I read this account I thought of the verse in Zechariah. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1336018 01/07/2012 07:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is really interesting, just sharing this article I came across this morning. Quoting: Lisa*Lisa "Lift up your eyes and see what this is that goes forth...and this is their resemblance throughout the earth...Here is a metallic disk lifted up...This is Wickedness" Zechariah 5:5-8p "Many People have asked why they cannot find "metallic disk" in this text of scripture. In the King James version, it says, "talent of lead". The NIV which is not a word by word translation but a translation based on idea and concepts, calls this a "cover of lead". In context ,while this object is used as a cover, this form of translation ignores the actual Hebrew word and its literal meaning, which is describing the shape. By going back to the literal words and their consistent usage elsewhere in the Bible we find these facts: There are two words used to describe a cover. One describes the shape, one describes the color combined, they are telling you the overall appearance of something that is used as a cover. Here are the actual words and their meaning: Talent in the Hebrew, is the word Kikkar Strong's number 3603 it means a circle, round and flat i.e. disk the same word is used for describing a type of coin and bread (eastern bread was round and flat just like their coins.) Lead, the other word in Hebrew, is Owphereth Strong's number 5777, it means lead from it's dusty color. It is a feminine participle of Strong's number 6080 a primitive root, to be gray. The overall emphasis is not the lead itself but it's appearance; lead being a metal and a dusty gray color is therefore a dull gray or metallic appearance. The main description means round and flat what we would call a disk and a metallic appearance. So there is no scripture twisting going on here. I am not injecting anything into this scripture but rather bringing out what is already there based on the potential meaning of the ancient words. This object is used as a cover for an evil which is inside the ephah. Ephah (#374) is a Hebrew word for a measurement. It is a standard unit of measurement or an object (in this case a woven basket) which holds that quantity of something. It culturally is the same as our use of the word cup. Something symbolizing evil is inside the measurement. The woman in the measurement is symbolic of the woman who rides the beast of Revelation 19, the whore of Babylon. She is the false religious system who has been the focus of worship in every major empire ( 7 ) that has ever existed and will be the final one of the eighth empire. She is introduced in a measurement, (This ties into my friend Dave Flynn's work on the occult significance of the Roswell crash of 1947 as deciphered measurements and date which were determined by his understanding of the occult. It reveals a plan from Satan to deceive the whole world at a location and time: ie: Roswell 1947.)" Read the whole article at the link below: [link to www.echoesofenoch.com] What a load of bull. The bible never mentioned metallic disk. It is made up as you go along crap. I am fairly sure if there is such thing as evil it resides on Earth already. It is the world leaders for starters and what exactly has religion done to help the world and it's current mess? Yes God does not need a UFO to travel but I bet in this vast universe that he has created other beings which would probably be alot more advanced then a human being. After all it is the humans that have wars and persecute each other etc, not aliens. Religion has kept with the same rants since dark ages and beyond. Nothing new, nothing at all. Same old cult minds. IF there is such thing as evil? have you NOT been alive the within the PAST several decades? yes, it resides on Earth, YES THAT evil runs the planet. Religion is MAN made laws...Check out the Vatican & other 'cult' churches. God is spirit, there are God-like spirits, there are evil spirits, they happen to be IN BODIES. God tells us that what we are at war with is NOT of our flesh & blood.....alien? I would suggest that you do some RESEARCH on WHO runs the world & HAS since the beginning of man....same bloodline, same wickedness. Don't 'make up' what you 'think' makes sense. You have been blindly mislead. Remember...Satans biggest trick was teaching the world that he doesn't exist. He is throughout in EVERYTHING in society. Please, wake up to KNOW the difference. Oh please, spare the rant!!. I know who runs the world. Greedy business CEO's and world leaders. All human who put greed before anything else. Has nothing to do with aliens. I am not the one blindly mislead. I believe you are. I will not research misinformation. There is enough of that shit going on and please, the world is in a mess so tell me what religion is doing to help? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1826244 01/07/2012 07:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You need to do the 20/20 method on this. 20 verses back and 20 ahead. The flying roll is to show that those who sin openly will not hinder Gods work, because Gods judgment is upon them and they will not escape. For the Israel of the future the vision indicates that at the coming of the Messiah God is going to pour out His judgment on all the world and remove every sinner from the land. The seventh vision is of the woman in the ephah.The significance of the vision for the Israel of Zechariahs day is that wickedness must be removed entirely from the land. This is an impossible task from mans viewpoint, but from Gods viewpoint it is simply and efficiently accomplished. So the people should not let any form of wickedness deter them from their task of bringing the temple to completion. For the future of Israel, the vision looks toward the seventieth week of Daniel, when God will remove every system and form of wickedness that manifests itself against Him. Ps 145:18 The Lord is near to all them that call upon Him, to all that call upon Him in truth. Is 30:19 ....He will be very gracious to you, at the voice of your cry; when He shall hear it He will answer you. :cross sin: Godbless |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1826244 01/07/2012 08:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. 13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. 14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; 15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; 16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. 17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: :armor of god: Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! 13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: 14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. :devil vs jesus: |
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| cmgj User ID: 8427737 01/07/2012 08:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | thats verse is incorrect its actually "Then the angel who talked with me came forward and said to me, i“Lift your eyes and see what this is that is going out.” 6 And I said, “What is it?” He said, “This is jthe basket1 that is going out.” And he said, “This is their iniquity2 in all the land.” 7 And behold, the leaden cover was lifted, and there was a woman sitting in the basket! 8 And he said, “This is Wickedness.” And he thrust her back into the basket, and thrust down jthe leaden weight on its opening". or something like that |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1337834 01/07/2012 08:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The real bible is long gone and corrupted by people from all kinds of religions. Every religion has its goal. The goals go beyond teaching the word of god. Their goals are mainly financial. The church is really rich. They don't pay taxes in the US and yet they own land, real estate and property all over the world. The managers of every religion preach the word of the lord during service, however during the night their ministers visit prostitutes, have homosexual encounters and abuse children. If you don't believe me why don't you read the money the church had to pay for their sexual abuses. You can also read what the ministers of those born again christian churches do when no one is looking. So talking bad about aliens and people coming from other planets is the best thing to do to keep our minds away from their abuses. The church is afraid of the awaken around us. The church is doom forever. The real religion founded by prophets like Jesus no longer exist. It disappeared at least 2000 years ago. Those people who stole the real teachings of the bible rewrote it for their own benefit to control humanity. When I need to talk to god I will search inside myself. In my heart is where god lives. The church wants you to go to some building so you give the managers of that building your hard earned money. I am a very spiritual man but I will not follow what some corrupted man is telling me to do and obey. Look at the churches' record and be the judge. |