Bible Reveals UFO's and Their Wickedness

Here is were most people are confused.

There are malak/messengers that also server YaH Most High, and there are malak/messengers that have chosen to rebel against YaH Most High.

People are led astray by the evil malak because they reject YaH's Torah.

Torah means Instruction in Righteousness, and in a nutshell it simply means to do what is right towards others.

hasatan knew the plan of YaH, that is why he tried to destroy the lineage of Mashiyach, the Seed of the women.

hasatan tried to breed out the human race.

Noach/Noah was found right in his generation, in other words, his DNA was NOT tainted and the Mashiyach lineage was preserved through his son, Shem. Through Shem comes Avraham, etc...

Remember hasatan tried to kill Moshe as well. hasatan also worked through Herod to try and kill the young Mashiyach, too.

All in all, there are malak that serve YaH, and there are malak that are in rebellion against YaHWeH and His Mashiyach. Read Tehillim/Psalms 2. The entire system is anti-Mashiyach.

Shabbat Shalom,

Eliyah

The Bible as we know it specifically the old testament as well as the Hebrew bible are taken loosely & sometimes word for word from much older documents, most people put that around 6000yrs ago, those being the Sumerians Cuneiform script tablets. If you read these stories which are said to be historical documents earliest written record, you will see how the Gods who came to earth, created man, gave man culture, farming, law, medicine etc. This documents mention how the Gods would build Huge walled cities to protect their flying ships (UFO's) using stones that NO MAN with any equipment they had at that time could have moved or constructed. Many famous paintings depict what we term religious figures (Jesus, Mary) with what clearly look like saucer shaped glowing object observing from the sky. Also there is a 3000-year old Temple,located several hundred miles south of Cairo and the Giza Plateau, at Abydos that has carved in the ceiling beam a modern helicopter, various planes, a submarine & things that look like what our typical portrayal of UFO's (disk & saucer shaped). Every religion has a holy man (Jesus, Mohammed, Joseph Smith/Mormon etc) either descending or ascending into the clouds in beams of light. Jacob talks about a ladder with a glowing white light at the top and "angels" going up and down. Joseph Smith who started the Mormons had his room fill with light and then "Moroni" a messenger from God appeared and spoke to him. Isn't it possible that what we called God, Gods were an older race of people from another planet who can here a long time ago (as TONS of artifacts suggest) & jumped started the created of modern man & every one in a while when we needed some guidance a messenger was sent down from above to put of on the right path (aka Jesus, Mohammed, John Smith - every culture has someone like this so I'm not buying into ALL aliens from another planet are Demons. I feel there is 1 supreme being or GOD who has many messengers that are sent to direct people/planet thru-out the galaxy's towards the truth that the universe is amazing, huge & with love for each and every person, creature, plant & everything we've been given we can ascend into the light that will take us to a place beyond anything you can imagine. To find out more about the Sumarians and the 6000 yr. old records read ZACHARIA SITCHIN. btw: Sitchin met privately with a senior Vatican official & was given a very high award for his work on the Sumerians & the Vatican purchased a $15 Million dollar infrared telescope they named "Lucifer".. Hmmm sounds like the Vatican knew the real history all along. What we call Aliens are just a much older race who started this human race, they have watchers or monitors who at time appear at night, possible to experiments on tissue samples etc to know how we are destroying ourselves with Chemtrails, drugs, food additives etc. There will be a time in the near future that we will go thru an upgrade of sorts it happens roughly every 26,000 years and it's called procession of the equinoxes. You can trace back every 26,000 years there has been a major change in people, plants & animals. It's the light energy (photons) from the center of the galaxy that will restructure our mind & DNA to better suit the creator

NOTHING TO DO WITH UFO

The Flying Roll and The Woman in the Ephah

These two visions in this chapter are related and have the same purpose. That is, rooting out dishonesty and reviving basic decency in the remnant of disorganized, returned exiles. Because of the context of the imminent rebuilding of the Temple to which all this first series of visions is related, these two visions speak of a purge of evil from the nation which will result from the revival of the Temple worship and the Law of Moses.

There are two sins that are singled out in this chapter: They are false swearing (lying) and theft. Not that there are only two sins of the nation but these two must have been endemic among those who returned and needed to be expunged from the settled-returnees (Hebrew: "yishuv.") The first vision of the flying roll is especially designed to clearly cut out this sin from the "yishuv," and under the symbol of the roll enters into the houses of those practicing these sins and consumes the houses--timbers, stones and all.

The second symbol shows an ephah, which is a container of dry measure, like a bushel, and a lead stone which was used as a measure of weight, and a woman. The woman is personified evil which has been expunged by the first vision of the flying roll, as we shall see. The angel throws the woman into the ephah and covers the opening of the ephah with the lead stone, whereupon two women with wings bear it to Babylon. Dishonesty in daily business conditions in Judea is implied by this vision. The ephah is the most common dry measure in trade and the lead stone is the standard of weights. The symbol of the ephah and the lead with the woman cast into the ephah therefore imply dishonest conditions in trade. The symbols show dishonesty in weights and measures. It would seem as if you could not do business with anybody without being cheated! [It would be much like Britain, but more magnified, where non-violent crime--burglary and petty theft, con schemes and deception are endemic among some classes.] This general and poor condition of the social life of the "yishuv" is to be cut out and exported back where it came from. Whether it is fair or not to say that these practices were learned in Babylon, that is what is implied in the vision.

Zec. 5:1 Then I turned, and lifted up my eyes, and looked, and behold a flying roll.

"Roll." Hebrew "megillah" , is a noun form of the verb which means to roll as rolling stones. Gilgal, which is derived from the same root, is so named because they rolled stones into a heap to memorialize the dry-land crossing of Jordan. (Joshua 4:19-21) Megillah, then, is the name given in Hebrew to a scroll which is rolled together when it is stored and unrolled to be read. The flying roll is unrolled, as is seen in the next verse.

Zec. 5:2 And he said to me, What do you see? And I answered, I see a flying roll; the length of it is twenty cubits, and the breadth of it ten cubits.

The cubit is a little more than a foot and a half. Thus the scroll is more than 30 feet long and 15 feet wide--a large book. It would be the equivalent of 3,000 pages if written on both sides, which is what the next verse implies.

Zec. 5:3 Then said he to me, This is the curse that goes forth over the face of the whole earth: for every one that steals shall be cut off as on this side according to it; and every one that swears shall be cut off as on that side according to it.

"Curse." Hebrew "'alah," . Gesinius says, "a covenant made by an oath." This is an epitome of what is written on the scroll.

"According to it." Hebrew "kamoha," , a preposition and feminine suffix which means "like her" and here means in comparison to her; "her" is the scroll.

"Cut off." Hebrew "niqqah," , is a passive verb which means to be cleansed or purified. Most translations (ASV, KJV and NIV) and commentaries consistently follow the idea of removing of the guilty parties through punishment. However the literal meaning in the words is that the content of the roll will cleanse and purify the sinner. This is the direct meaning of the passage while the context speaks of removing the houses, timber and all. The context may have led the commentators to use the secondary meaning of the word, that is, the sinners are to be cleaned out, removed, or as they say "cut off" from the land. The more natural meaning of the passage which is consistent with the grammar and vocabulary used is: "The words on one side of the scroll will cleanse the liar when he compares himself to it and the words on the other side of the scroll will cleanse the thief when he compares himself to it."

Zec. 5:4 I will bring it forth, says the LORD of hosts, and it shall enter into the house of the thief, and into the house of him that swears falsely by my name: and it shall remain in the midst of his house, and shall consume it with the timber of it and the stones of it.

Again, the house is to be removed as the container of the wickedness. In the next vision, when the evil is personified and purged, it is the evil that is cast out and deported, not the people. They will have been cleansed by the revival of the written law when the social condition, or house of lies and dishonesty, is destroyed by the same written law. This is a glimpse of the important place that the Scriptures were to play in the life of the "yishuv" from then on.

The Vision Changes: The Ephah

Zec. 5:5 Then the angel that talked with me went forth, and said unto me, Lift up now your eyes, and see what is this that goes forth. 5:6 And I said, What is it? And he said, This is an ephah that goes forth. He said moreover, This is their resemblance through all the earth.

"Their resemblance:" Hebrew "'eynam" , that is "their eye." This figure is not satisfactorily explained by commentators although Exell and Spence give verses where the word "eye" is used idiomatically to mean that which is seen. (Num. 11:7) The Septuagint has "unrighteousness" for resemblance which may be implied in the text.

Zec. 5:7 And, behold, there was lifted up a talent of lead: and this is a woman that sits in the midst of the ephah.

"There was lifted." Hebrew "nise'th" , or lifted, is a passive participle used to describe the talent. Literally it is "And behold, a having been lifted talent..." Thus the ephah is presented as having a lead stone as a cover which was lifted or opened to allow Zechariah to see inside.

"A talent of lead," Hebrew "kikar" , is a frequent idiom used to refer to a weight or talent. The word itself means a circuit or round shape, like a flat round loaf of bread. It is used here because of its round shape to fit the mouth of the ephah and because it represents a standard weight.

"This is a woman." The "is" is misplaced. The text says "This woman."

"That sits." Hebrew "yosheveth," , is a feminine participle modifying woman. Since there is no "present tense" in Hebrew, both modern Hebrew and Biblical Hebrew use this grammatical form to show current action in progress. It means "is sitting" or more commonly "is dwelling."

A correct and meaningful translation of this verse: "And behold, an opened lead talent [cover] and this woman is sitting in the midst of the ephah."

Zec. 5:8 And he said, This is wickedness. And he cast it into the midst of the ephah; and he cast the weight of lead upon the mouth of it.

"This is wickedness." Hebrew "zoth ha-rish'ah." . Zoth is a feminine demonstrative and rish'ah has an added feminine noun-ending to more plainly refer to the woman in the ephah. Thus: "She is wickedness." Thus the woman represents the wickedness that has been ferreted out by the Scriptures of the flying scroll.

"Wickedness." Hebrew "rish'ah" , means criminal. Gesinius gives also "wickedness in ethical relations."

"Cast it." Hebrew for "it" is "othah" , which is feminine, not "it" but "her."

"Weight." The KJV translators here used the implied "weight" for the Hebrew "'eben" . or stone.

Thus the woman as personified dishonesty is cast into and sealed in the symbols of her dishonesty in weights and measures where she has been residing or dwelling for some time. She has now been prepared and made ready for deportation.

Zec. 5:9 Then lifted I up my eyes, and looked, and, behold, there came out two women, and the wind was in their wings; for they had wings like the wings of a stork; and they lifted up the ephah between the earth and the heaven.

It is not necessary to identify the two women (but see the next verse) who are part of a beautiful and poetic description of their appearance and service. They lift up the ephah but the wind assists them and bears them swiftly away.

Zec. 5:10 Then said I to the angel that talked with me, Where do these bear the ephah? 5:11 And he said to me, To build it a house in the land of Shinar: and it shall be established, and set there upon her own base.

"Where do these bear." This phrase meaning the two winged women do the bearing, links them also with the building of the house for personified evil and fixing her on a firm base of her own in Babylon. They therefore must be Babylonian systems of some sort which can be represented by the symbol of these winged women.

Babylon is the source of these dishonest practices so back to Babylon they ("she") will go where she belongs and where she can have a house and be set on a lasting foundation. They ("she") will not be expunged by the law of God in that place as she has been in Israel but rather will dwell securely there for a long time. This of course does not speak well for Babylon nor the jewish people who chose to stay there

Revelation speaks of what will happen to hasatan/heelel/lucifer. he is definitely NOT forgiven. :)

In the Sumerian telling of Noah & the flood his name was Ziasudra & he was told to build an ark. This is the original telling of the flood and PREDATES the bible by a few thousand years. The bible as we know it is derived from from these older texts and then modified by Constantine council of Nicaea. So I don't think the bible should be taken verbatim but more as a guild to the original Sumerian texts.

Let's not forget how much trouble the Israelites got into for "bowing down to the starry hosts"

Now . . .what do believe those "starry hosts" were?

Whatever they were, they must of been pretty powerful to make them forget "the Lord their God who delivered them from the hand of the Egyptians"

Much love

Sumerians and Nephilim, one and the same.

you cannot deem completely credible the ancient sumerian writings. they were written by the fallen angel/human hybrids.

This is very interesting.

when you get into the ufo info it is said that the Orion group uses UFOs.

this shouldn't imply that all 'aliens' are evil, but a being doing work for Creator (such as angels and light beings) won't need technology to appear to you.

After reading 12th planet all the question I had a kid, who? when? how? why? all became clear. Then I read the whole series and suddenly your get a flash in your brain & the dots start connecting themselves.. Great stuff..

the Orion group being warmongering entities seeking to serve themselves by enslaving all other selves.

Awesome thread my friend!!!

Great post!

Oh, absolutely not! Satan is NOT our neighbor. We are not to love or forgive him at all. He is not a human. We are to forgive our fellow humans, but not satan and his fallen angels. They have already been judged and condemned by God.

Hey my buddy!

Sumerian & Nephilim are NOT 1 in the same. Sumerians from Sumer/Iraq are a people who lived there. Nephilim are the result of when some of the Anunnaki's who were on earth in those day's went against orders & found earth women beautiful & mated with them, the offspring were genetic freaks giants. Gen. 6.2. This was prior to great flood, the flood, the ruling Anunnaki were disgusted with this hybrid so they kept the secret of the flood from them, all but Ziasudra/translated to the bible as Noah

Satan will use the people around you, without them knowing or understanding what they are doing, so you cannot blame them directly.

They will try to advise you, while genuinely believing they have tyour best interests at heart.

However, they will be advising you from a material and human point to view; not a spiritual point of view because they do not know about the TRUE Gods spiritual matters.


You cant let humans stray you away from God. I think that's how most people fall from Him...

Interdimensional shmeemons.

Hello Lisa I am appealing to you only because I have grown to respect you and many others of course. Greys are God's creation and they are very beautiful and they are loved of the Lord very much so. Some unfortunately fell from grace. There are many races of Angels just as there are many races of humans. Angelic races live in many universes hence the Lord's title; Lord of Hosts! The universe is teaming with life. It is imperative that we spend our time getting to know the Lord as we do this He will at times share His secrets with us. The more we remove error the more we will see truth. Walk in the light as He is in the light for He is the Light. It is not only the elect Greys that are covered in a radiant glory so are we who walk in the Lord's Light. Sincerely Patch

What is it with Radford VA.? My sister moved to Radford & instantly became a bible thumper & closed her mind to anything else, even family. It got kinda strange for a while... But I do love the area, everyones super friendly & when I go to visit as soon I speak to anyone in a store or gas-station I get "you're not from a around here" "you're a yankee" all in good fun tho...

how many wars have Ufos started?

Great post... Col. William Corso who was the top guy for the Army's reseach & delv. group in the Pentagon wrote a book called "The day after Roswell" he admits it happened, has documents, names, dates. He was responsible for handing out the technology to the private contractors to see what they did and whether they (US Military) could use any of the Technology. What we got from that crash was: Night Vision, Kevlar, Lasers, brain sensing movement & the micro-chip.

He mentions from the autopsy that the Greys seemed engineered for travel based on the body's structure. This ties into Sitchins writings that there are watchers that the Anunnaki have built called "Enkidu's) a sort of Biological Android.

Great post!!! I agree

I completely and totally disagree. But thank you for being kind and respectful about it.

If you believe in the Bible, then aliens ARE fallen angels. their is no difference whatsoever. Of course their are other lifeforms other than humans, we all know that.

If fallen angels can transform into "beautiful" angels of light from their decayed serpent appearance, they can certainly shapeshift their molecular structure to that of what many know as a grey. This could be done physically OR metaphysically in dreams and such through astral projection.

Aliens and demons ARE the same thing. As are demons and fallen angels.

Hi Lisa... interesting thread which encourages thought and personal study.

and also THANK YOU OP! I biblecc'd the verses you posted in the KJV I like to read and was like hey wait a minute and was about to counterpost, but you ARE right. Even words and sentences in the KJV can be improperly mistranslated like you have shown. and that is VERY interesting, I have never seen that verse in the last 6 or 7 years I've been studying this stuff. 5 star thread!

AMEN Lisa! We can however bless them our enemies, and that releases spiritual fire according to whether they live by His Word or not. :) I'm glad I'm on the right side!

It's always a good thing to study and study some more.

your argument would be all the stronger without the insults and swearing - you just come off as idiotic thats all you have achieved here.