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Women and the Bible----Christianity only gives us whores and virgins to identify with.

 
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Miriam, Ruth, Esther, Sarah...



Miriam abandoned her baby along the banks of a river. (Let's all be like her).

Ruth sleeps with some dude and then hopes that he will "redeem" her through marriage. Nice. So empowering.

Esther was part of a Persian harem. HAREM.

Sarah was the half-sister of Abraham her husband. Incest.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


Miriam was Moses sister, she looked after him as a babe when their mother sent him down the river to SAVE him from being SLAUGHTERED by pharoah.

The book of Esther is controversial and probably could have been left out of the canon.

Ruth and Sarah are part of the genealogy that produced Jesus Christ. That seed line HAD to be kept pure.
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Oh, so incest is godly?
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


It starts off with so many examples of incest then turns around and slaps you saying it's evil. Just one of the many contradictions of the oh so "perfect" and "pure" text.

cruise
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Well obviously at the start , incest had to be involved . And the Law had not been given at that time , that came later . Maybe you could learn something from this .

[link to www.gotquestions.org]
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Miriam was Moses sister, she looked after him as a babe when their mother sent him down the river to SAVE him from being SLAUGHTERED by pharoah.

The book of Esther is controversial and probably could have been left out of the canon.

Ruth and Sarah are part of the genealogy that produced Jesus Christ. That seed line HAD to be kept pure.
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Oh, so incest is godly?
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


It starts off with so many examples of incest then turns around and slaps you saying it's evil. Just one of the many contradictions of the oh so "perfect" and "pure" text.

cruise
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Well obviously at the start , incest had to be involved . And the Law had not been given at that time , that came later . Maybe you could learn something from this .

[link to www.gotquestions.org]
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So incest was okay at first, but it isn't anymore.

I think I get it.

Incest was needed, justified even for a time because that's how it was meant to be. By the way, it is no longer meant to be even though woman are told to exemplify and identify with characters like Sarah who committed incest with her half-brother.

That makes perfect sense. Let's just change our minds about incest when it's really needed, right?
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OP- sorry to break it to you, but women will and have sold themselves out and continue to do so on a regular, daily, hourly basis just to preserve the egos of men..

If women dare make themselves visible in any kind of way (visible as in VISIBLE.. not as in nudity, etc), they will be immediately perceived as a threat as they have been throughout all of history..

You know this. I know this. That's all there is to know.

And men envy the womb. It's fucked up to even have to type the words, but it is the TRUTH. You always want what you don't have. It's the ultimate human dilemma, especially when "genders" have been pitted against one another for the sole purpose of enslaving both.

Women might be awfully oppressed and there is no doubting that whatsoever, but which is worse? Women who actually know their power and actually have the self-restraint to keep mum about it? Or men who have been told they are powerful and "better than" only so governments of the world can take advantage of this inflated ego by making them live up to it until their death? Which one is more disillusioned about the state of things?

I would say women are wonderfully blessed to have the perspective they do for men are blinded by half-truths they only wish they could really believe about themselves to be true.

And I probably don't need to mention anything about the Holy Grail to you.. I'm sure you are well aware.

:)

hf

P.s. God is genderless/possesses equal parts man/woman, as do all humans. Your sex organ does not determine your behavior in life. That's purely socialization and brainwashing to the deepest root of our beings.
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Women are no threat to Men , where do you come up with this bullshit ? And to this , "And men envy the womb." no thanks , I am happy to not have periods and suffer the pain of birth .
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But according to freud , it is the other way around . Women have penis-envy !
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Only when I have to pee!

OP interesting topic. I personally think man and woman compliment each other perfectly tho it's very hard to see at times but with the right man there is no need to question your equality bible story be damned.
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It's ironic that you are concerned with incest yet you are ok with premarital casual sex with I'm assuming multiple partners.

Sex was created for the purpose of procreation. If a family does not procreate then a family name will simply die out. Apparently in biblical times it was important for a family to always have an heir. If that wasn't the case then we wouldn't have a population of 7 billion on this earth today. It's called survival instincts, isn't?

I wonder, if there were only 2 people alive on earth who happened to be related, would they let the human race become extinct or would they actually decide to do the deed to preserve mankind?
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Oh, so incest is godly?
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


It starts off with so many examples of incest then turns around and slaps you saying it's evil. Just one of the many contradictions of the oh so "perfect" and "pure" text.

cruise
 Quoting: Reikara


Well obviously at the start , incest had to be involved . And the Law had not been given at that time , that came later . Maybe you could learn something from this .

[link to www.gotquestions.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6170721


So incest was okay at first, but it isn't anymore.

I think I get it.

Incest was needed, justified even for a time because that's how it was meant to be. By the way, it is no longer meant to be even though woman are told to exemplify and identify with characters like Sarah who committed incest with her half-brother.

That makes perfect sense. Let's just change our minds about incest when it's really needed, right?
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Can you not read ? And you obviously did not read what I linked .
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It starts off with so many examples of incest then turns around and slaps you saying it's evil. Just one of the many contradictions of the oh so "perfect" and "pure" text.

cruise
 Quoting: Reikara


Well obviously at the start , incest had to be involved . And the Law had not been given at that time , that came later . Maybe you could learn something from this .

[link to www.gotquestions.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6170721


So incest was okay at first, but it isn't anymore.

I think I get it.

Incest was needed, justified even for a time because that's how it was meant to be. By the way, it is no longer meant to be even though woman are told to exemplify and identify with characters like Sarah who committed incest with her half-brother.

That makes perfect sense. Let's just change our minds about incest when it's really needed, right?
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


Can you not read ? And you obviously did not read what I linked .
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I did read it, it's more drivel using the bible to justify biblical incest.
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This was deliberately done to cause an imbalance of energies on this planet. Predominantly male or female is a dangerous position to be in. A balance between the two is what is required to create a stable condition. Of course, the creators of our current religious paradigms understood clearly the universal system of energies and how they manifest themselves upon the multiverse and all within it. In order to control us, they had to diminish our love for the feminine. It is the feminine essence within all of us that allows us to think rationally and intuitively. We then manifest our ideas through our masculine drive.

The positive thing that makes me smile, is that the shift in power has already begun. There are myriads amount of women in power these days, and I truly believe that with the next wave of feminine leaders, peace will truly come...and maybe we can use some of these ancient texts written to subjugate us, as a deterrent for future generations to never divert again from the universal truth.
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You are about as far from the truth as can be ! thats why you are a EvilBugger
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I'm sorry, Christians, but if you're a guy then clearly you are effeminate for worshiping another guy. Please realize how gay you sound.

You faggots need a goddess.

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I used to think along similar lines before God called. Now, with God and Jesus as my teachers only, I see that He loves women.

The first person to see Jesus after His resurrection was Mary Magdalene.

Two meanings:

1. Jesus and a church ("I came to smite the shepherds" so watch out; a woman is a "church" in the Bible)
2. Jesus will use women as His messengers coming up on His return.


Epilogue: The Wife of Noble Character

A wife of noble character who can find?

She is worth far more than rubies.

Her husband has full confidence in her and lacks nothing of value.

She brings him good, not harm, all the days of her life.

She selects wool and flax and works with eager hands.

She is like the merchant ships, bringing her food from afar.

She gets up while it is still dark; she provides food for her family and portions for her servant girls.

She considers a field and buys it; out of her earnings she plants a vineyard.

She sets about her work vigorously; her arms are strong for her tasks.

She sees that her trading is profitable, and her lamp does not go out at night.

In her hand she holds the distaff and grasps the spindle with her fingers.

She opens her arms to the poor and extends her hands to the needy.

When it snows, she has no fear for her household; for all of them are clothed in scarlet.

She makes coverings for her bed; she is clothed in fine linen and purple.

Her husband is respected at the city gate, where he takes his seat among the elders of the land.

She makes linen garments and sells them, and supplies the merchants with sashes.

She is clothed with strength and dignity; she can laugh at the days to come.

She speaks with wisdom, and faithful instruction is on her tongue.

She watches over the affairs of her household and does not eat the bread of idleness.

Her children arise and call her blessed; her husband also, and he praises her:

“Many women do noble things, but you surpass them all.”

Charm is deceptive, and beauty is fleeting; but a woman who fears the Lord is to be praised.

Give her the reward she has earned, and let her works bring her praise at the city gate.

Proverbs 31
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There are enough good women in the Bible to have supplied 2000 years of baby girls with given names. Look it up.

Nowhere in the Bible does it say that Mary Magdalene was a whore. That is modern day liberal opinion. Look it up. Find the quote for yourself.

Find some other translations for "virgin", or a hebrew scholar's opinion, don't use modern day english meaning of the word.

It sounds to me like you are reading somebody else's opinions and taking them for your own rather than taking up the book and reading for yourself.

Let's look at a few examples that were overlooked.

You forgot the other Mary, that is Mary, sister of Lazarus, and Martha, her sister. Mentioned many time in episodes of Jesus' life.

What about all the hundreds of women of the old Testament?

For heaven's sake, what about the Queen of Sheba? Now there is a role model, not only a queen, but an adventuresome, curious and probably very intelligent woman. She had a lot of guts.

If you are looking for in-your-face feminists, you won't find many, tho the contentious woman, who is mentioned more than once, might fit the bill.

Go do your own investigating to see what is really there, then make an honest informed opinion of your own.
 Quoting: waterlily


But the same names are being used over and over and over.

Do you know how many derivations of Mary have been recycled again and again? Mary, Marie, Maria, etc.

The women of the bible are extremely few.

A few Marys, and a Ruth, Judith, Esther, Jael, Deborah. Most only get a passing mention, like Martha.

Others are doomed only to wife of somebody and have no consequence on their own.
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But the same names are being used over and over and over.

Do you know how many derivations of Mary have been recycled again and again? Mary, Marie, Maria, etc.

The women of the bible are extremely few.

A few Marys, and a Ruth, Judith, Esther, Jael, Deborah. Most only get a passing mention, like Martha.

Others are doomed only to wife of somebody and have no consequence on their own.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


Men and women have different roles in life. You are not a man and are not as physically strong as a man. Thus women's role is different as a wife of the man. Men are leaders of the church and village thus they are recorded almost exclusively in the geneologies.

Again, you are just being rebellious. Women are subject to the men as men are subject to God. This is for many reasons. As you see Christian women today there is compromises on all sides. But women certainly do not run the house or churches. Such a thing is a failure.
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The bible isn't completely useless--it does make a good doorstop.
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But the same names are being used over and over and over.

Do you know how many derivations of Mary have been recycled again and again? Mary, Marie, Maria, etc.

The women of the bible are extremely few.

A few Marys, and a Ruth, Judith, Esther, Jael, Deborah. Most only get a passing mention, like Martha.

Others are doomed only to wife of somebody and have no consequence on their own.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


Men and women have different roles in life. You are not a man and are not as physically strong as a man. Thus women's role is different as a wife of the man. Men are leaders of the church and village thus they are recorded almost exclusively in the geneologies.

Again, you are just being rebellious. Women are subject to the men as men are subject to God. This is for many reasons. As you see Christian women today there is compromises on all sides. But women certainly do not run the house or churches. Such a thing is a failure.
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Failure is Christianity.

Just look at the past 2000 years.
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You should read about Esther, she was neither. Same with Sarah and many others.
 Quoting: Lion of Judah

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+1 And Miriam and Ruth .
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deborah the prophetess, esther, dorcas-tabitha, sarah, rahab
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You should read about Esther, she was neither. Same with Sarah and many others.
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Miriam, Ruth, Esther, Sarah...



Miriam abandoned her baby along the banks of a river. (Let's all be like her).

Ruth sleeps with some dude and then hopes that he will "redeem" her through marriage. Nice. So empowering.

Esther was part of a Persian harem. HAREM.

Sarah was the half-sister of Abraham her husband. Incest.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


Miriam was Mose's sister. After her mother put Moses in the river she had Miriam follow him. When Pharoah's daughter found him, Miriam told her she would bring a woman to take care of him. Of course that woman was Moses own MOTHER who got to raise him.
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This is what made me walk away from Christianity. There isn't much there for women, it becomes obvious that the bible was used in part to stamp out the feminine, or altogether obscure it.

This is what happened during the Crusades and the Inquisition---murder of those who were herbalists, naturalists and Gnostics.

What does a woman get from the bible aside from a male saviour archetype to which she could never identify--as a woman?

The other alternative is essentially, a whore or a virgin mother. These two are so at odds to one another. it seems like a set-up for failure.

If you're a mother and not a virgin--basically you're a whore or prostitute.

What does Christianity do for you girls? Please don't simply quote bible scripture, I'd like to hear your thoughts on the issue instead--I've read the bible many times over.

The best analogy the bible gives for the feminine is to refer to her as Wisdom in Proverbs.

Other than that, it doesn't leave much to go on for women.
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Much more has been left out than you know. Mary was not a whore and Jesus put her at his level. It's the feminine creative side that has been controlled by man.
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But the same names are being used over and over and over.

Do you know how many derivations of Mary have been recycled again and again? Mary, Marie, Maria, etc.

The women of the bible are extremely few.

A few Marys, and a Ruth, Judith, Esther, Jael, Deborah. Most only get a passing mention, like Martha.

Others are doomed only to wife of somebody and have no consequence on their own.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


Men and women have different roles in life. You are not a man and are not as physically strong as a man. Thus women's role is different as a wife of the man. Men are leaders of the church and village thus they are recorded almost exclusively in the geneologies.

Again, you are just being rebellious. Women are subject to the men as men are subject to God. This is for many reasons. As you see Christian women today there is compromises on all sides. But women certainly do not run the house or churches. Such a thing is a failure.
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Yes, we should mind our place, huh? Oh Look! Strong, smart men have brought us to the brink of destruction and women have sat on the sidelines looking at the absurdity of big, fat Humpty Dumpty.
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You should read about Esther, she was neither. Same with Sarah and many others.
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Miriam, Ruth, Esther, Sarah...



Miriam abandoned her baby along the banks of a river. (Let's all be like her).

Ruth sleeps with some dude and then hopes that he will "redeem" her through marriage. Nice. So empowering.

Esther was part of a Persian harem. HAREM.

Sarah was the half-sister of Abraham her husband. Incest.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


Ruth never had sex with Boaz before marriage. She crept in late at night with her mother in laws knowledge and laid down fully clothed at his feet while he was sleeping. She uncovered his feet so he would wake up and see her there. This was a custom of brother in law marriage since her husband had died. They later married and then consummated the marriage. This was a custom when the widow had not had a child and a brother in law marriage continued the family line for the deceased husband.

Their son was Obed, father of Jesse, and grandfather of David which line Jesus came from.


Esther was married to the king and she risked her life to save her people.

Half sibling and cousin marriage was accepted back then. Problems with genetics was not a problem as it is today as we see with the royals. Brother sister marriage was not accepted.
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"Women and the Bible----Christianity only gives us whores and virgins to identify with."

There is a great spiritual application there. But I don't expect you of all people (based on your posting history) to understand.

I would advise you to choose wisely, but I know it would be wasted advice.
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Miriam was Moses sister, she looked after him as a babe when their mother sent him down the river to SAVE him from being SLAUGHTERED by pharoah.

The book of Esther is controversial and probably could have been left out of the canon.

Ruth and Sarah are part of the genealogy that produced Jesus Christ. That seed line HAD to be kept pure.
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Oh, so incest is godly?
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


LOL what a stupid thing to say. The flesh never has anything to do with godliness.

You know the Rothschilds are also incestuous, they do this to keep their bloodline 'pure.'
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Well apparently divinity could only be preserved through incest?

Why?

Fact still remains that Sarah married and bore children with her half-brother. That is incest.

I am not the one justifying it--you are.
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It was different back then. Where do you think Cain got his wife? They were siblings. There was only one man and one woman and hence their children married one another. And since they were closer to perfection there were no genetic problems. Thousands of years later brother sister marriage was forbidden in the Bible.
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The OP believes that premarital sex is PURE genius. She believes that sex is for her own personal pleasure and NOT for procreation.

It's no wonder she's trying to say biblical women are either whores or virgins. That's because according to the bible she is a WHORE.

Here's her thread where she states this: Thread: Why don't people understand that PREMARITAL SEX IS PURE GENIIUS?
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Miriam was Moses sister, she looked after him as a babe when their mother sent him down the river to SAVE him from being SLAUGHTERED by pharoah.

The book of Esther is controversial and probably could have been left out of the canon.

Ruth and Sarah are part of the genealogy that produced Jesus Christ. That seed line HAD to be kept pure.
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Oh, so incest is godly?
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


LOL what a stupid thing to say. The flesh never has anything to do with godliness.

You know the Rothschilds are also incestuous, they do this to keep their bloodline 'pure.'
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Well apparently divinity could only be preserved through incest?

Why?

Fact still remains that Sarah married and bore children with her half-brother. That is incest.

I am not the one justifying it--you are.
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It was different back then. Where do you think Cain got his wife? They were siblings. There was only one man and one woman and hence their children married one another. And since they were closer to perfection there were no genetic problems. Thousands of years later brother sister marriage was forbidden in the Bible.
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Sorry OP, I don't agree. (I'm a woman btw)

The Bible is a love letter from God to His Bride(The Church).
In the Old Testament, He saw her and loved her with an everlasting love.
He courted her. He anointed her with oil and he gave her the finest of everything. He adorned her with gold and jewels. Ultimately, leading up to dying for her so that they can live for eternity together.
He is sharing his inheritance with her. They've become one. She is His everything even so much unto the point of His death so that she may have life. He is a gentleman and never forced her to be with Him. He gave her a choice. He protects her character and dignity. He absorbs the pain so she won't have to.
Christ is the perfect man and the model husband.


Ezekiel 16.
hf
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Bible has lots of examples on the male saviour. ie. how to be like the perfect husband, etc.

But it falls short on the feminine. and tells us to identify with Jesus--a man.

How can a woman identify as a man?
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


That AC gave a beautiful example and you completely missed the point. God's children are considered His bride. God's treatment to the bride of Christ should be unlifting to know that is how God expects men to treat women.
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How does the bible say a woman should act and/or be?

As a metaphorical bride or otherwise, she is just a powerless chattel for God's men.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


The Capable Wife Proverbs 31

10Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies.

11The heart of her husband doth safely trust in her, so that he shall have no need of spoil.

12She will do him good and not evil all the days of her life.

13She seeketh wool, and flax, and worketh willingly with her hands.

14She is like the merchants' ships; she bringeth her food from afar.

15She riseth also while it is yet night, and giveth meat to her household, and a portion to her maidens.

16She considereth a field, and buyeth it: with the fruit of her hands she planteth a vineyard.

17She girdeth her loins with strength, and strengtheneth her arms.

18She perceiveth that her merchandise is good: her candle goeth not out by night.

19She layeth her hands to the spindle, and her hands hold the distaff.

20She stretcheth out her hand to the poor; yea, she reacheth forth her hands to the needy.

21She is not afraid of the snow for her household: for all her household are clothed with scarlet.

22She maketh herself coverings of tapestry; her clothing is silk and purple.

23Her husband is known in the gates, when he sitteth among the elders of the land.

24She maketh fine linen, and selleth it; and delivereth girdles unto the merchant.

25Strength and honour are her clothing; and she shall rejoice in time to come.

26She openeth her mouth with wisdom; and in her tongue is the law of kindness.

27She looketh well to the ways of her household, and eateth not the bread of idleness.

28Her children arise up, and call her blessed; her husband also, and he praiseth her.

29Many daughters have done virtuously, but thou excellest them all.

30Favour is deceitful, and beauty is vain: but a woman that feareth the LORD, she shall be praised.

31Give her of the fruit of her hands; and let her own works praise her in the gates.


So you can see this woman is strong and industrious. She buys and sells land, she plants vineyards, she makes and sell clothing among the many other things she does. She is a business woman who takes care of her family. No small feat. She is very smart and is no shrinking violet and has a mind of her own.
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I am not a feminist.

Any child I might have would be none of your business.

I am not inspired by the bible as a woman, and the religions that PRE-DATE the bible have alot more for women.

What does christianity do for women?

I don't see it, and I used to be a christian.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


You already admitted - OP - you rejected Christianity because of your Feminist views.

There are no religions which pre-date the Bible - the oldest text on the planet. Moses only compiled ten firsthand accounts from creation itself. (see: Wiseman Hypothesis)

Now, i'm outta here!
 Quoting: Jay 7731991


I rejected Christianity for many reasons, one of which was that it only oppresses women further.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


Again, read about the capable wife. No one is oppressing her.
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not to forget that fine example Judethz lol
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Right, she ingratiates herself to the enemy and decapitates him whilst sleeping.

A murderess. Brilliant.
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Deborah was the prophetess with the game plan. Yael killed the enemy general with a tent peg. Rahab was the prostitute that hid the spies. Just clarifying, Deborah is one of the few "equal" women in that she's the only one mentioned as an actual Judge in Judges. She was neither virgin nor whore.
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Right, Deborah was the prophetess who helped win a war when Jeal murdered a man with a tent peg.

Rahab was the prostitute, like Mary and a few others mentioned in the bible.

Judeth murdered a man by decapitation.

Sarah committed incest with her half-brother.

Eve doomed innocent human babies forever to being born in sin.

Let's see here...who am I missing?
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And it was not Eve who doomed us. It was her HUSBAND Adam who took the fruit from her and ate it knowing full well not to do it. He could have said no and stayed on God's side but chose to disobey along with her. Adam did not have to follow her. Most likely he would have been given another woman.
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I am not a feminist.

Any child I might have would be none of your business.

I am not inspired by the bible as a woman, and the religions that PRE-DATE the bible have alot more for women.

What does christianity do for women?

I don't see it, and I used to be a christian.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


You already admitted - OP - you rejected Christianity because of your Feminist views.

There are no religions which pre-date the Bible - the oldest text on the planet. Moses only compiled ten firsthand accounts from creation itself. (see: Wiseman Hypothesis)

Now, i'm outta here!
 Quoting: Jay 7731991


There were Gnostics before the racist bible and Mary was one. They knew they didn't need an outside mediator to commune with their god within. I also reject the war mongering lords of the bible.
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I am not a feminist.

Any child I might have would be none of your business.

I am not inspired by the bible as a woman, and the religions that PRE-DATE the bible have alot more for women.

What does christianity do for women?

I don't see it, and I used to be a christian.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


You already admitted - OP - you rejected Christianity because of your Feminist views.

There are no religions which pre-date the Bible - the oldest text on the planet. Moses only compiled ten firsthand accounts from creation itself. (see: Wiseman Hypothesis)

Now, i'm outta here!
 Quoting: Jay 7731991


I rejected Christianity for many reasons, one of which was that it only oppresses women further.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


Again, read about the capable wife. No one is oppressing her.
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Really? When did women finally win the right to vote? Women have been oppressed for centuries and we see the result of this religion especially in the Middle East.
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The OP believes that premarital sex is PURE genius. She believes that sex is for her own personal pleasure and NOT for procreation.

It's no wonder she's trying to say biblical women are either whores or virgins. That's because according to the bible she is a WHORE.

Here's her thread where she states this: Thread: Why don't people understand that PREMARITAL SEX IS PURE GENIIUS?
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Didn't you know that thread is a spoof on this thread..

Thread: Why don't people understand that PREMARTIAL SEX IS A SIN?

Probably not.

I bet your eyes got big when you stumbled upon it as though you'd found something really incriminating.

lol
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The OP believes that premarital sex is PURE genius. She believes that sex is for her own personal pleasure and NOT for procreation.

It's no wonder she's trying to say biblical women are either whores or virgins. That's because according to the bible she is a WHORE.

Here's her thread where she states this: Thread: Why don't people understand that PREMARITAL SEX IS PURE GENIIUS?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2566322


Didn't you know that thread is a spoof on this thread..

Thread: Why don't people understand that PREMARTIAL SEX IS A SIN?

Probably not.

I bet your eyes got big when you stumbled upon it as though you'd found something really incriminating.

lol
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


Hah, no I didn't catch the spoof, nor was I looking for anything incriminating. Just thought I'd gain insight on your views with your posts. Can't help it if it was on your profile.
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You already admitted - OP - you rejected Christianity because of your Feminist views.

There are no religions which pre-date the Bible - the oldest text on the planet. Moses only compiled ten firsthand accounts from creation itself. (see: Wiseman Hypothesis)

Now, i'm outta here!
 Quoting: Jay 7731991


I rejected Christianity for many reasons, one of which was that it only oppresses women further.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


Again, read about the capable wife. No one is oppressing her.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1466838


Really? When did women finally win the right to vote? Women have been oppressed for centuries and we see the result of this religion especially in the Middle East.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1444651


I am talking about Proverbs 31 and the role of women in Bible times. She is called the capable wife. According to the Bible women were not meant to be oppressed. But of course humans have other ideas. Man dominates man to his injury. That is not how God wanted it to be.