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A Solemn CALL & WARNING to all Followers of Jesus Christ. We have very little time!

 
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Only one true christian church founded by the Apostle Peter it's called Roman Catholic Church the only true church of Jesus Christ all others are pure heresy and not of Christ but given to you by a false prophet!
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You are talking about the Antichrist of Bible Prophecy. Peter founded no church. It was Jesus who is the 'PETRA', the ROCK, who founded the Christian church upon Himself. Peter is the 'PETROS', a stone, or pebble in the Greek.

The Roman Catholic Church was essentially founded by the Roman Emperor Constantine when he mixed paganism with Christianity, creating an abomination to God and commanded all to worship on the day of the sun, sunday, in opposition to the seventh-day Sabbath as the true believers were doing. It is THIS system which martyred over 69,000,000 believers during the dark ages.

THIS is BABYLON, the Mother of all churches and abominations of the earth. COME OUT!
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OP don't let the facts get in the way of a good story.

It is so patently obvious and yet they will never listen!

How anyone can just ignore the Inquisition and it's crimes against humanity, I'll never understand!

How anyone can know the Constantine history and not realise they have been taught wrongly, I will also never understand.
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Ive been trying to find God on my own by reading the Word. I heard that KJV is best but honestly its hard for me to understand. Ive been using the ESV. is this ok?
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Christians,

Humble yourselves,

Seek His face,

Turn from your evil ways,

and pray.....

HE will forgive us our sins,

and heal our land.

That is a promise from 2 Chronicles 7:14


OP, thanks for the video.....great preaching!!!
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Deuteronomy 28:15-61 is what is in store if there is no repentence.
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The Brit Chadashah is the Torah written upon the hearts and minds of those who are born from above

This is the Covenant that YESHUA haMashiyach Mediates

Many will come and say Adonai Adonai havn't we done this or that in your name, wonders even, But Yeshua will tell them

I never knew you, workers of Torahlessnes

If you Love Me Keep My Commandments Exodus 20:6 John 14:15
Keep means to guard, never has Elohiym said you are saved by keeping His Torah, But He does say those who are saved will keep the Torah

For not the hearers of the Torah are just before ELOHIYM, but the doers of the Torah shall be justified

There is One Torahgiver who is able to save and destroy

My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to Me: seeing thou hast forgotten the Torah of thy ELOHIYM, I will also forget thy children. Hosea 4:6

Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. MatisYahu 5:19

Saved by Grace, Yet they are Least in His Kingdom , they will not be priest to Him or reign with Him in His Kingdom

They will still be alot better off than the unbeliever, destroyed anihilated no more forever, because they deemed themselves unworthy of Immortality and Eternal Life by Messiah YESHUA
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True. It is the grace of YAHVEH which saves us, through the blood of Yeshua, Jesus Christ.

We RETAIN our salvation by demonstrating our love and appreciation of what He had done for us by ceasing to sin, through His power, and living in harmony with His Holy Law, which are but a reflection of His awesome character.

Faith saves us. Works of Jesus demonstrate that we have been saved.
 Quoting: A Voice In The Wilderness


The Elijah Message

Remember ye the Torah of Moses my servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, with the statutes and judgments.

Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of YHWH: Mal 4:4-5

And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of ELOHIYM.

And they sing the song of Moses the servant of ELOHIYM, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, ADONAY EL SHADDAY; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints. Revelation 15:2-3

The ones who will get the victory in the coming days are singing two songs, the song of Moses/Torah and the song of The Lamb/Yeshua haMashiyach

The Spirit of EliYahu Remember the Torah of Moses

The Testimony of Yeshua is the Spirit of Prophecy

Shema Yisra'EL Yahuwah Eloheynu Yahuwah Echad Deuteronomy 6:4
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Ive been trying to find God on my own by reading the Word. I heard that KJV is best but honestly its hard for me to understand. Ive been using the ESV. is this ok?
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I commend you for taking the matter of your salvation into your own hands. The LORD will guide you and bless you as you continue to do so, and if you are honest with yourself and in your heart, He WILL lead you into all truth.

I understand that the King James Version may be a little difficult to read at first, particularly the Old Testament, or some of Paul's epistles in the New Testament. I think it is great idea to have a companion Bible to help you when you are having difficulty understanding the wording of the KJV.

Probably the best thing you can do is find a Parallel Bible. It is a Bible which has two versions side my side, allowing you to easily compare verse for better understanding. This is the kind of Bible that I use.

Here's an example of one: [link to www.christianbook.com]

The reason for the KJV being the most reliable is that most of the newer versions of the Bible have been corrupted in some areas. Words and verses have been twisted, changed, or even taken out completely, in an attempt to water down the truth. That's why it is a great idea to compare the newer versions with the most-trusted KJV. It will give you deeper understanding and will help you from being swayed in the wrong direction.

hf
The Truth About Thread: The FINAL EVENTS Of Bible Prophecy

"We here are of the conviction that the papacy is the seat of the true and real Antichrist." - Martin Luther (Aug. 18, 1520)

"While God has given ample evidence for faith, He will never remove all excuse for unbelief. All who look for hooks to hang their doubts upon will find them. And those who refuse to accept and obey God's Word until every objection has been removed, and there is no longer an opportunity for doubt, will never come to the light" (The Great Controversy, p. 527).

"Jesus did not come to change the law, but he came to explain it, and that very fact shows that it remains, for there is no need to explain that which is abrogated." - Charles Spurgeon

"Jesuit Adam Weishaupt established the modern version of the Illuminati specifically to be a front organization behind which the Jesuits could hide. After being formally abolished by Pope Clement XIV in 1773, the Jesuits used the Illuminati and other organizations to carry out their operations. Thus, the front organizations would be blamed for the trouble caused by the Jesuits."
Bill Hughes (Author of The Secret Terrorists and The Enemy Unmasked)
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Ive been trying to find God on my own by reading the Word. I heard that KJV is best but honestly its hard for me to understand. Ive been using the ESV. is this ok?
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I commend you for taking the matter of your salvation into your own hands. The LORD will guide you and bless you as you continue to do so, and if you are honest with yourself and in your heart, He WILL lead you into all truth.

I understand that the King James Version may be a little difficult to read at first, particularly the Old Testament, or some of Paul's epistles in the New Testament. I think it is great idea to have a companion Bible to help you when you are having difficulty understanding the wording of the KJV.

Probably the best thing you can do is find a Parallel Bible. It is a Bible which has two versions side my side, allowing you to easily compare verse for better understanding. This is the kind of Bible that I use.

Here's an example of one: [link to www.christianbook.com]

The reason for the KJV being the most reliable is that most of the newer versions of the Bible have been corrupted in some areas. Words and verses have been twisted, changed, or even taken out completely, in an attempt to water down the truth. That's why it is a great idea to compare the newer versions with the most-trusted KJV. It will give you deeper understanding and will help you from being swayed in the wrong direction.

hf
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Ok great. I found a program called e-sword which is actually free and it allows you to put bibles next to each other to read verse by verse what each one says. Ill start using the program.


Thank You.
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I fear that your post is utterly hopeless, Voice.

To declare obedience to His Law these days gets us labeled "legalizers" or "judaizers". Usually stated with contempt.

Modern Christians don't want to hear it. I prefer to call the vast majority of Christians "Paulians". Why? Because they, indeed, follow Paul, not HaMoshiach. This is demonstrated by the fact that any time you point out what Yahushua said concerning the law, they ALWAYS reply with "But Paul said ..." or quote something from Paul's letters.

Now, I'm not bashing poor ol' Paul here, even if it sounds like it. The problem comes from the fact that the RCC "cherry picked" and then applied a lot of spin to his letters as if they were scripture.

Most often when Paul's letters are saying that the law is not important to salvation it comes down to one of two things:

1) He is referring to Oral Torah ... aka the Talmud. Man made tradition that has been accepted by the Pharisee (aka Orthodox or Hasidic jewish people) as if it were YHWH's commandments.

or

2) He's trying to get Hebrews to understand that a gentile does not need to learn 100% Torah before being "saved". Upon the gentile's acceptance of Yahushua HaMoshiach, he is indeed "saved". However, it's expected that he will then work out his salvation with fear and trembling by learning the commandments and learning to follow them, aka "repentance".

I, personally, get quite frustrated by the "But Paul says ..." argument. I tend to look at it like this: Since when does a shift manager outrank the asst manager or general manager? So, even if Paul WAS saying that the law was abolished ... so what? The General manager (YHWH) says otherwise, as does the asst manager (Yahushua).

Let's take a look at what Yahushua says concerning the law:

Matt. 5:17-19 KJV
17 "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven."

I personally prefer the JNT version because it's FAR more accurate of a translation:

Matt. 5:17-19 (JNT)
17 "Don't think that I have come to abolish the Torah or the Prophets. I have come not to abolish but to complete. 18 Yes indeed! I tell you that until heaven and earth pass away, not so much as a yud or a stroke [smallest elements of the Hebrew alphabet] will pass from the Torah-not until everything that must happen has happened. 19 So whoever disobeys the least of these mitzvot [commandments] and teaches others to do so will be called the least in the Kingdom of Heaven. But whoever obeys them and so teaches will be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven."

Matthew 7:21-27 (ESV)
21 "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 On that day many will say to me, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?' 23 And then will I declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.' 24 "Everyone then who hears these words of mine and does them will be like a wise man who built his house on the rock. 25 And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house, but it did not fall, because it had been founded on the rock. 26 And everyone who hears these words of mine and does not do them will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand. 27 And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell, and great was the fall of it."

A similar warning is found in Luke 13:24-27

Luke 13:24-27
24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able. 25 When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are: 26 Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets. 27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.

Matt. 7:23 And then will I declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.'

Matt. 13:41 The Son of Man will send his angels, and they will gather out of his kingdom all causes of sin and all law-breakers, 42 and throw them into the fiery furnace. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth."

Luke 13:27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.

The word "iniquity" is tossed around quite often by pastors and traditional Christians ... but it seems that they ignore what the word really means.

"Iniquity" is the Greek is "Anomia".

A - Without.
Nomia - Law.


The Greek word translated "lawlessness" in the NASB and "transgression of the law" in the KJV is one and the same word - anomia - and is shown from Strong's lexicon to be:

458 anomia {an-om-ee'-ah}
from 459; TDNT - 4:1085,646; n f
AV - iniquity 12, unrighteousness 1, transgress the law + 4160 1, transgression of the law 1; 15
1) the condition of without law
1a) because ignorant of it
1b) because of violating it
2) contempt and violation of law, iniquity, wickedness


Additionally, Thayer's Greek lexicon defines anomia the same as:

458 anomia {an-om-ee'-ah}
from 459; TDNT - 4:1085,646; n f
AV - iniquity 12, unrighteousness 1, transgress the law + 4060 1, transgression of the law 1; 15
1) the condition of without law
1a) because ignorant of it
1b) because of violating it
2) contempt and violation of law, iniquity, wickedness


The point to grasp is that in Matthew 7:23 and 13:41 HaMoshiach DIRECTLY condemns, in an undeniable FUTURE reference, those who have "contempt and violation of the Law" and/or who promote "the condition without Law (torah)". Those are not my words. Those are the words of Yahushua HaMoshiach, and individuals who do not like them provide proof of their choice to reject and oppose Him!

Though the precise same Greek word, anomia, is not used in Luke 13:27 for the term of "workers of iniquity" as shown in the KJV, a very similar word is used. That Greek word is adikia. Among Thayer's Greek Lexicion's definition of this word is: a deed violating law and justice, act of unrighteousness. Furthermore, given the almost identical nature of the three statements we can be reasonably certain that the same meaning applies to all – that meaning being “contempt and violation of Torah.”

There are many other examples coming right from the mouth of the Messiyah these Christians claim to follow ... yet they deny His words in favor of "numbered sound bytes" taken out of context from the letters of Paul. Often quoting "All scripture is good for reproof." ... failing to comprehend that when that letter was written, it's VERY unlikely that Paul was referring to his own letters when writing that statement. At the time, the ONLY "scripture" was TORAH.

It always makes me kind of shake my head in amazement when I hear traditional Christians today say things like "Dancing is a sin!" or some other insane garbage ... all the while totally ignoring the 4th commandment to keep holy the sabbath day. Little do these poor, misguided folks realize, they're following the RCC when attending church on the venerable day of the Sun.

topope

Well, I think I've rambled long enough. So, in closing: I don't mean to offend or upset anyone. To paraphrase a line I heard once: "I bring you only the truth, does my bringing you the truth make me your enemy?"
"When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" — John M. Keynes
"The way to see by [blind] faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Benjamin Franklin
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Real men keep Torah.
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Avinu shebashamayim, yitkadesh shimkha. Tavo malkhutekha ye'aseh r'tzonekha ba'aretz ka'asher na'asah vashamayimTen-lanu haiyom lechem chukeinu. u'selach-lanu et-ashmateinu ka'asher solechim anachnu la'asher ashmu lanu. Ve'al-tevieinu lidei massah, ki im-hatsileinu min-hara. Ki lekha ha-mamlakha vehagevurah veha-tiferet l'olemei olamim. Amen.
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Here the LEADER JAMES of the Apostles (hint hint)

Tribe of Yahudah

James the Jerk was not the leader of anything (hint hint)
He was the 1/2 baked bishop of Yerusalem.

Only in his being martyred by the Yahudines (hint hint)
did he clear his name.

One needs to write the Torah so as to be in school under Messiah and also to learn more of His nature.

We do not do animal sacrifice nor circumcision of the foreskin, now we circumcise the heart and the ear.

The law will judge all non-believers. All believers are to follow the law as best they can and are saved by by Messiah
as NO MAN CAN KEEP THE LAW PERFECTLY, but we still try for His sake.

If we are not under the law, please someone with a Cadillac leave the keys in it for me so I can legally steal it.

Uriah the Hittite
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Probably the best thing you can do is find a Parallel Bible. It is a Bible which has two versions side my side, allowing you to easily compare verse for better understanding. This is the kind of Bible that I use.
 Quoting: A Voice In The Wilderness


I'm rather obsessive about translations. I personally prefer to use an Interlinear Bible.

Here is one online so you can see why it's such a powerful tool:

[link to www.scripture4all.org]

This combined with a Strong's Concordance transforms the reader into a full on Hebrew/Greek scholar!
"When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" — John M. Keynes
"The way to see by [blind] faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Benjamin Franklin
The Self Defining Hebrew System: [link to www.thechronicleproject.org]
Real men keep Torah.
Knighted into the Army of Yahuwah on 10-9-10.

Avinu shebashamayim, yitkadesh shimkha. Tavo malkhutekha ye'aseh r'tzonekha ba'aretz ka'asher na'asah vashamayimTen-lanu haiyom lechem chukeinu. u'selach-lanu et-ashmateinu ka'asher solechim anachnu la'asher ashmu lanu. Ve'al-tevieinu lidei massah, ki im-hatsileinu min-hara. Ki lekha ha-mamlakha vehagevurah veha-tiferet l'olemei olamim. Amen.
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The Blue Kachina, which has already happened in Oct, nov 2011

Three days of darkness very soon.

dimensional shift.
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Ive been trying to find God on my own by reading the Word. I heard that KJV is best but honestly its hard for me to understand. Ive been using the ESV. is this ok?
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I commend you for taking the matter of your salvation into your own hands. The LORD will guide you and bless you as you continue to do so, and if you are honest with yourself and in your heart, He WILL lead you into all truth.

I understand that the King James Version may be a little difficult to read at first, particularly the Old Testament, or some of Paul's epistles in the New Testament. I think it is great idea to have a companion Bible to help you when you are having difficulty understanding the wording of the KJV.

Probably the best thing you can do is find a Parallel Bible. It is a Bible which has two versions side my side, allowing you to easily compare verse for better understanding. This is the kind of Bible that I use.

Here's an example of one: [link to www.christianbook.com]

The reason for the KJV being the most reliable is that most of the newer versions of the Bible have been corrupted in some areas. Words and verses have been twisted, changed, or even taken out completely, in an attempt to water down the truth. That's why it is a great idea to compare the newer versions with the most-trusted KJV. It will give you deeper understanding and will help you from being swayed in the wrong direction.

hf
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Ok great. I found a program called e-sword which is actually free and it allows you to put bibles next to each other to read verse by verse what each one says. Ill start using the program.


Thank You.
 Quoting: DOOM-N-GLOOM


My pleasure! That sounds like a great tool.

I personally use BlueLetterBible.org, it allows you to switch to different versions with the click of the mouse, and also enables the reader to look up the wording in the original Greek and Hebrew, as it has a built-in Strong's Concordance.

May the Great I AM continue to lead you as you seek to live according to His Word. hf
The Truth About Thread: The FINAL EVENTS Of Bible Prophecy

"We here are of the conviction that the papacy is the seat of the true and real Antichrist." - Martin Luther (Aug. 18, 1520)

"While God has given ample evidence for faith, He will never remove all excuse for unbelief. All who look for hooks to hang their doubts upon will find them. And those who refuse to accept and obey God's Word until every objection has been removed, and there is no longer an opportunity for doubt, will never come to the light" (The Great Controversy, p. 527).

"Jesus did not come to change the law, but he came to explain it, and that very fact shows that it remains, for there is no need to explain that which is abrogated." - Charles Spurgeon

"Jesuit Adam Weishaupt established the modern version of the Illuminati specifically to be a front organization behind which the Jesuits could hide. After being formally abolished by Pope Clement XIV in 1773, the Jesuits used the Illuminati and other organizations to carry out their operations. Thus, the front organizations would be blamed for the trouble caused by the Jesuits."
Bill Hughes (Author of The Secret Terrorists and The Enemy Unmasked)
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Probably the best thing you can do is find a Parallel Bible. It is a Bible which has two versions side my side, allowing you to easily compare verse for better understanding. This is the kind of Bible that I use.
 Quoting: A Voice In The Wilderness


I'm rather obsessive about translations. I personally prefer to use an Interlinear Bible.

Here is one online so you can see why it's such a powerful tool:

[link to www.scripture4all.org]

This combined with a Strong's Concordance transforms the reader into a full on Hebrew/Greek scholar!
 Quoting: Sir Phydeau


Hey buddy :)

I LIKE THIS! One look at it and I think I'm gonna give it a regular use. Unfortunately, my knowledge of Hebrew and Greek is very, very poor, as I only know and understand a few words and phrases, but this will be a great help.

I have found that researching the Hebrew and Greek often time brings great additional meaning to the Word, particularly when it comes to prophecy. Thank you! hf
The Truth About Thread: The FINAL EVENTS Of Bible Prophecy

"We here are of the conviction that the papacy is the seat of the true and real Antichrist." - Martin Luther (Aug. 18, 1520)

"While God has given ample evidence for faith, He will never remove all excuse for unbelief. All who look for hooks to hang their doubts upon will find them. And those who refuse to accept and obey God's Word until every objection has been removed, and there is no longer an opportunity for doubt, will never come to the light" (The Great Controversy, p. 527).

"Jesus did not come to change the law, but he came to explain it, and that very fact shows that it remains, for there is no need to explain that which is abrogated." - Charles Spurgeon

"Jesuit Adam Weishaupt established the modern version of the Illuminati specifically to be a front organization behind which the Jesuits could hide. After being formally abolished by Pope Clement XIV in 1773, the Jesuits used the Illuminati and other organizations to carry out their operations. Thus, the front organizations would be blamed for the trouble caused by the Jesuits."
Bill Hughes (Author of The Secret Terrorists and The Enemy Unmasked)
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Solemn Call & Warning?

Really? Do any of you even have a clue?
I discern none here that are Ezekiel 36 Born-Again.
"I consider myself to be..." one Hebrews 12:8 Bastard says.
What you "consider yourself to be" means nothing...
If you have ever given your life Unto The Father in Full Surrender, you would KNOW HIM and have been Brought Into HIS Accord. Just like 26&27 of Ezekiel 36 Witnesses...
26. A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
27. And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.


Got no witness? Can't testify that you Know those verses as Operative & True in your life?

Christ Jesus IS The Way Unto The Father. If you Love HIM and Know WHO HE IS, then The Father Put that Knowledge upon your heart and called you Unto HIM. Yet, you have not responded. Can't Trust HIM Fully with your life is the reason...

Soon, God's Angel will Witness the message of Revelation 14:7. The Age of Faith will thereby be ended/closed. No more Coming Unto The Father by Faith... The door will be closed to them who don't Know HIM; see Matt 7:21 and Luke 13:28... All them workers of iniquity who will knock and be told "Depart from me, I Know you not!"


There is no validity to being a "follower of Jesus". You either admit to being a Christian, or you are not!

All the bullshit and self-will you have devised in your adaptation of religion does nothing but rationalize your alienation from The Father and The Son. You cannot be "Spirit-Filled without surrender and being Born-Again. God does not Abide with those who aren't Born-Again.


This is the Laodicean Church Age. Almost all Christians are mired in self-will and cannot Trust God fully with anything in their lives, much less their whole enchilada.

God Sent HIS Son to Redeem mankind so that those who might Come Unto HIM could do so. If you Love Christ with a True Heart, your heart was Called By The Father. If you cannot act on your Love For HIM, you are a failed vessel.

All you need to Know is WHO Christ Jesus IS and that you can Absolutely Trust God The Father with every aspect of your life. You open your heart Unto HIM in earnest and sincere prayer and tell HIM so. Make your offering holding nothing back. Acknowledge Christ Jesus. Admit & repent of your sins. Claim your share of Father's Infinite Mercy & Grace. Give up your life, without reservation Unto The Father. Ask Father to Send HIS Holy Spirit to Guide you the rest of your days.

That is all that counts in your life.
Your surrender allows God to Give you A New Heart Of HIS Flesh and Bring you Into HIS Accord.

It will happen if you are honest and sincere.

Maranatha!!!
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I find "church" today, (and when i was a kid) to feel much like torture.
I grew up Catholic. They pounded the "guilt" thing home pretty well, but I had no understanding of why I was fearful. Come to think of it, I don't think we ever touched upon Revelation, and the urgency to "get right with God". It was passion-less, mindless, stand up/sit down, repeat verbatim, not much biblical understanding stuff.

These days, the modern Christian church services are like attending motivational speaking. They might throw a bible verse or two into the mix. I definitely get the sense it's all prosperity speaking, and what people would like to hear as opposed to what they NEED to hear.
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You are 100% correct. Nearly all 'Christian' churches of today have dried up like a fig tree in the desert. "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge... this is a rebellious people, lying children, children that will not hear the law of the LORD: Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits." Hosea 4:6, Isaiah 30:9,10

Friend, look for a congregation which preaches the most Bible truth. We are instructed not to "forsake the assembling of yourselves together, even more so as ye see the day approaching", but at the same time the Creator does not desire for us to remain in a fallen, corrupt, and dead church.

Find the church which can explain to you clearly Biblical prophecy, both the books of Daniel and the book of Revelation. Remember, that the ministry of John the Baptist, of Jesus, of the Apostles, and of the Reformers ALL began with PROPHECY, both the fulfillment of it and the preaching of it. Prophecy, as it is in Jesus, is to be the foundation of the faith of the small company of faithful believers at the end of time. These are and will be the ones most dearly regarded by God and the most despised and hated by Satan.

Notice Revelation 12:17, "And the dragon was wroth with the woman(Gods church), and went to make war with the remnant of her seed(the few remaining believers at the end of time), those who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ."

What is the Testimony of Jesus Christ? The Bible always explains itself. Revelation 19:10, "Worship God, for the testimony of Jesus Christ is the Spirit of Prophecy." That true faithful remnant will be those who are able to lay out before you the prophetic books with clarity and understanding.

They are few, but they exist. Find them, and you will have found where God wants you to be at this time. hf
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You are very kind. But I am reminded of this:


Lk. 11.2-4
5 ¶ And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Lk. 18.10-14 Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
7 ¶ But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
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Probably the best thing you can do is find a Parallel Bible. It is a Bible which has two versions side my side, allowing you to easily compare verse for better understanding. This is the kind of Bible that I use.
 Quoting: A Voice In The Wilderness


I'm rather obsessive about translations. I personally prefer to use an Interlinear Bible.

Here is one online so you can see why it's such a powerful tool:

[link to www.scripture4all.org]

This combined with a Strong's Concordance transforms the reader into a full on Hebrew/Greek scholar!
 Quoting: Sir Phydeau


Hey buddy :)

I LIKE THIS! One look at it and I think I'm gonna give it a regular use. Unfortunately, my knowledge of Hebrew and Greek is very, very poor, as I only know and understand a few words and phrases, but this will be a great help.

I have found that researching the Hebrew and Greek often time brings great additional meaning to the Word, particularly when it comes to prophecy. Thank you! hf
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Oh, you're so very welcome. I actually have an Interlinear in hard copy. Barnes & Nobles: $80, Amazon: Around $30.

It's a bit on the big side, but with that and my Concordance, a whole world of meaning has been opened to me. What's more, it helps to filter out the mistranslations that abound in multitude.

EDIT TO ADD: I almost forgot to mention that in the hard copy, the Strong's Concordance reference number is directly over each word. Making looking up meanings and root words SO much easier!

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Avinu shebashamayim, yitkadesh shimkha. Tavo malkhutekha ye'aseh r'tzonekha ba'aretz ka'asher na'asah vashamayimTen-lanu haiyom lechem chukeinu. u'selach-lanu et-ashmateinu ka'asher solechim anachnu la'asher ashmu lanu. Ve'al-tevieinu lidei massah, ki im-hatsileinu min-hara. Ki lekha ha-mamlakha vehagevurah veha-tiferet l'olemei olamim. Amen.
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Probably the best thing you can do is find a Parallel Bible. It is a Bible which has two versions side my side, allowing you to easily compare verse for better understanding. This is the kind of Bible that I use.
 Quoting: A Voice In The Wilderness


I'm rather obsessive about translations. I personally prefer to use an Interlinear Bible.

Here is one online so you can see why it's such a powerful tool:

[link to www.scripture4all.org]

This combined with a Strong's Concordance transforms the reader into a full on Hebrew/Greek scholar!
 Quoting: Sir Phydeau




Ok how does this Interlinear Bible help me? Does it make the word more clear or since it comes from the actual way the words were written provide more information.

And Thanks for this.
My relationship with death hasnt changed......I am strongly against it.
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Jesus never exsisted you dumb sheep. It is time to wake up. Religion is used to control.
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No university history for you I see.Even my atheist history teacher taught Jesus was historical.He just argued about his divinity and miracles.
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I fear that your post is utterly hopeless, Voice.

To declare obedience to His Law these days gets us labeled "legalizers" or "judaizers". Usually stated with contempt.

Modern Christians don't want to hear it. I prefer to call the vast majority of Christians "Paulians". Why? Because they, indeed, follow Paul, not HaMoshiach. This is demonstrated by the fact that any time you point out what Yahushua said concerning the law, they ALWAYS reply with "But Paul said ..." or quote something from Paul's letters.

Now, I'm not bashing poor ol' Paul here, even if it sounds like it. The problem comes from the fact that the RCC "cherry picked" and then applied a lot of spin to his letters as if they were scripture.

Most often when Paul's letters are saying that the law is not important to salvation it comes down to one of two things:

1) He is referring to Oral Torah ... aka the Talmud. Man made tradition that has been accepted by the Pharisee (aka Orthodox or Hasidic jewish people) as if it were YHWH's commandments.

or

2) He's trying to get Hebrews to understand that a gentile does not need to learn 100% Torah before being "saved". Upon the gentile's acceptance of Yahushua HaMoshiach, he is indeed "saved". However, it's expected that he will then work out his salvation with fear and trembling by learning the commandments and learning to follow them, aka "repentance".

I, personally, get quite frustrated by the "But Paul says ..." argument. I tend to look at it like this: Since when does a shift manager outrank the asst manager or general manager? So, even if Paul WAS saying that the law was abolished ... so what? The General manager (YHWH) says otherwise, as does the asst manager (Yahushua).

Let's take a look at what Yahushua says concerning the law:

Matt. 5:17-19 KJV
17 "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven."

I personally prefer the JNT version because it's FAR more accurate of a translation:

Matt. 5:17-19 (JNT)
17 "Don't think that I have come to abolish the Torah or the Prophets. I have come not to abolish but to complete. 18 Yes indeed! I tell you that until heaven and earth pass away, not so much as a yud or a stroke [smallest elements of the Hebrew alphabet] will pass from the Torah-not until everything that must happen has happened. 19 So whoever disobeys the least of these mitzvot [commandments] and teaches others to do so will be called the least in the Kingdom of Heaven. But whoever obeys them and so teaches will be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven."

Matthew 7:21-27 (ESV)
21 "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 On that day many will say to me, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?' 23 And then will I declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.' 24 "Everyone then who hears these words of mine and does them will be like a wise man who built his house on the rock. 25 And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house, but it did not fall, because it had been founded on the rock. 26 And everyone who hears these words of mine and does not do them will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand. 27 And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell, and great was the fall of it."

A similar warning is found in Luke 13:24-27

Luke 13:24-27
24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able. 25 When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are: 26 Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets. 27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.

Matt. 7:23 And then will I declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.'

Matt. 13:41 The Son of Man will send his angels, and they will gather out of his kingdom all causes of sin and all law-breakers, 42 and throw them into the fiery furnace. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth."

Luke 13:27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.

The word "iniquity" is tossed around quite often by pastors and traditional Christians ... but it seems that they ignore what the word really means.

"Iniquity" is the Greek is "Anomia".

A - Without.
Nomia - Law.


The Greek word translated "lawlessness" in the NASB and "transgression of the law" in the KJV is one and the same word - anomia - and is shown from Strong's lexicon to be:

458 anomia {an-om-ee'-ah}
from 459; TDNT - 4:1085,646; n f
AV - iniquity 12, unrighteousness 1, transgress the law + 4160 1, transgression of the law 1; 15
1) the condition of without law
1a) because ignorant of it
1b) because of violating it
2) contempt and violation of law, iniquity, wickedness


Additionally, Thayer's Greek lexicon defines anomia the same as:

458 anomia {an-om-ee'-ah}
from 459; TDNT - 4:1085,646; n f
AV - iniquity 12, unrighteousness 1, transgress the law + 4060 1, transgression of the law 1; 15
1) the condition of without law
1a) because ignorant of it
1b) because of violating it
2) contempt and violation of law, iniquity, wickedness


The point to grasp is that in Matthew 7:23 and 13:41 HaMoshiach DIRECTLY condemns, in an undeniable FUTURE reference, those who have "contempt and violation of the Law" and/or who promote "the condition without Law (torah)". Those are not my words. Those are the words of Yahushua HaMoshiach, and individuals who do not like them provide proof of their choice to reject and oppose Him!

Though the precise same Greek word, anomia, is not used in Luke 13:27 for the term of "workers of iniquity" as shown in the KJV, a very similar word is used. That Greek word is adikia. Among Thayer's Greek Lexicion's definition of this word is: a deed violating law and justice, act of unrighteousness. Furthermore, given the almost identical nature of the three statements we can be reasonably certain that the same meaning applies to all – that meaning being “contempt and violation of Torah.”

There are many other examples coming right from the mouth of the Messiyah these Christians claim to follow ... yet they deny His words in favor of "numbered sound bytes" taken out of context from the letters of Paul. Often quoting "All scripture is good for reproof." ... failing to comprehend that when that letter was written, it's VERY unlikely that Paul was referring to his own letters when writing that statement. At the time, the ONLY "scripture" was TORAH.

It always makes me kind of shake my head in amazement when I hear traditional Christians today say things like "Dancing is a sin!" or some other insane garbage ... all the while totally ignoring the 4th commandment to keep holy the sabbath day. Little do these poor, misguided folks realize, they're following the RCC when attending church on the venerable day of the Sun.

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Well, I think I've rambled long enough. So, in closing: I don't mean to offend or upset anyone. To paraphrase a line I heard once: "I bring you only the truth, does my bringing you the truth make me your enemy?"
 Quoting: Sir Phydeau


I agree wholeheartedly. Those who look for an excuse to continue to live in sin will always find it, as the first quote in my signature brings out very clearly. As you pointed out, they will 'cherry-pick' a few passages from the Bible, take them out of context, and build an entire theology on them. Indeed this most often happens with the writings of Paul.

Peter himself said in 2 Peter 3:15,16, "Our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction."

The truth is that nothing of what Paul wrote contradicts any part of the Bible. Many forget that certain epistles addressed specific issues, controversies, and problems in specific churches in Asia Minor. But people will take them and attempt to apply these specific corrections, reproof, and instructions to other issues or doctrines of the Bible. Colossians 2:16 being the prime example. This verse is almost always taken out of context and used to attempt to say that we are not to keep the seventh-day Sabbath, when in fact Paul was speaking of the sacrificial/ceremonial system which the unbelieving jewish people were trying to force the Christian believers to keep, the system which had been fulfilled at the death of Jesus Christ. Paul speaks of the Feasts, which included the High Sabbaths, such as Passover, as not being binding anymore. Yet, professed Christians twist this for their own sinful purposes.

Thank you for that article. I have added it to my 'repertoire' of information. hf


Here's a few quotes of interest regarding the same issue.


"Sunday is our mark of authority..... The church is above the Bible, and this transference of sabbath observance is proof of that fact." The Catholic Record, London, Ontario, September 1, 1923.

"Sunday is a Catholic institution and its claim to observance can be defended only on Catholic principles..... From beginning to end of Scripture there is not a single passage that warrants the transfer of weekly public worship from the last day of the week to the first." Catholic Press, Sydney, Australia, August 1900.

Speaking of the Antichrist, "And he would think to change times and laws..." Daniel 7
The Truth About Thread: The FINAL EVENTS Of Bible Prophecy

"We here are of the conviction that the papacy is the seat of the true and real Antichrist." - Martin Luther (Aug. 18, 1520)

"While God has given ample evidence for faith, He will never remove all excuse for unbelief. All who look for hooks to hang their doubts upon will find them. And those who refuse to accept and obey God's Word until every objection has been removed, and there is no longer an opportunity for doubt, will never come to the light" (The Great Controversy, p. 527).

"Jesus did not come to change the law, but he came to explain it, and that very fact shows that it remains, for there is no need to explain that which is abrogated." - Charles Spurgeon

"Jesuit Adam Weishaupt established the modern version of the Illuminati specifically to be a front organization behind which the Jesuits could hide. After being formally abolished by Pope Clement XIV in 1773, the Jesuits used the Illuminati and other organizations to carry out their operations. Thus, the front organizations would be blamed for the trouble caused by the Jesuits."
Bill Hughes (Author of The Secret Terrorists and The Enemy Unmasked)
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Probably the best thing you can do is find a Parallel Bible. It is a Bible which has two versions side my side, allowing you to easily compare verse for better understanding. This is the kind of Bible that I use.
 Quoting: A Voice In The Wilderness


I'm rather obsessive about translations. I personally prefer to use an Interlinear Bible.

Here is one online so you can see why it's such a powerful tool:

[link to www.scripture4all.org]

This combined with a Strong's Concordance transforms the reader into a full on Hebrew/Greek scholar!
 Quoting: Sir Phydeau




Ok how does this Interlinear Bible help me? Does it make the word more clear or since it comes from the actual way the words were written provide more information.

And Thanks for this.
 Quoting: DOOM-N-GLOOM


Well, an Interlinear bible has the Hebrew or Greek words (with the strong's concordance reference number above it), with a transliteration (how you'd say it) beneath that and the english translation beneath that. Over in the margin, it has the KJV. This allows the reader to translate it as he/she goes. The primary advantage to using a concordance comes down to being able to accurately define each word as well as track down the root words that word came from to help clarify the meaning.

Just as words change in English over time, the same can be said for Hebrew and Greek.

For example: "Oh that's wicked!" today can mean it's very impressive and cool. Where if you read this in a letter written 50 years ago, it would obviously mean "That's evil!".

This is where tracing the root words comes in handy.

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Avinu shebashamayim, yitkadesh shimkha. Tavo malkhutekha ye'aseh r'tzonekha ba'aretz ka'asher na'asah vashamayimTen-lanu haiyom lechem chukeinu. u'selach-lanu et-ashmateinu ka'asher solechim anachnu la'asher ashmu lanu. Ve'al-tevieinu lidei massah, ki im-hatsileinu min-hara. Ki lekha ha-mamlakha vehagevurah veha-tiferet l'olemei olamim. Amen.
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Probably the best thing you can do is find a Parallel Bible. It is a Bible which has two versions side my side, allowing you to easily compare verse for better understanding. This is the kind of Bible that I use.
 Quoting: A Voice In The Wilderness


I'm rather obsessive about translations. I personally prefer to use an Interlinear Bible.

Here is one online so you can see why it's such a powerful tool:

[link to www.scripture4all.org]

This combined with a Strong's Concordance transforms the reader into a full on Hebrew/Greek scholar!
 Quoting: Sir Phydeau




Ok how does this Interlinear Bible help me? Does it make the word more clear or since it comes from the actual way the words were written provide more information.

And Thanks for this.
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If you are just getting acquainted with the Word, I would suggest holding off on the interlinear just yet. It is an advanced tool, and you need to familiarize yourself with the Word. Though, I would keep it at hand, for as you use the parallel Bible and compare Scripture you will find certain passages in the newer version which is directly opposite of what the KJV says. That is when it would be good to use BlueLetterBible or the Interlinear and find the true meaning of that particular word in the Greek or Hebrew, giving you the correct understanding.
The Truth About Thread: The FINAL EVENTS Of Bible Prophecy

"We here are of the conviction that the papacy is the seat of the true and real Antichrist." - Martin Luther (Aug. 18, 1520)

"While God has given ample evidence for faith, He will never remove all excuse for unbelief. All who look for hooks to hang their doubts upon will find them. And those who refuse to accept and obey God's Word until every objection has been removed, and there is no longer an opportunity for doubt, will never come to the light" (The Great Controversy, p. 527).

"Jesus did not come to change the law, but he came to explain it, and that very fact shows that it remains, for there is no need to explain that which is abrogated." - Charles Spurgeon

"Jesuit Adam Weishaupt established the modern version of the Illuminati specifically to be a front organization behind which the Jesuits could hide. After being formally abolished by Pope Clement XIV in 1773, the Jesuits used the Illuminati and other organizations to carry out their operations. Thus, the front organizations would be blamed for the trouble caused by the Jesuits."
Bill Hughes (Author of The Secret Terrorists and The Enemy Unmasked)
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Probably the best thing you can do is find a Parallel Bible. It is a Bible which has two versions side my side, allowing you to easily compare verse for better understanding. This is the kind of Bible that I use.
 Quoting: A Voice In The Wilderness


I'm rather obsessive about translations. I personally prefer to use an Interlinear Bible.

Here is one online so you can see why it's such a powerful tool:

[link to www.scripture4all.org]

This combined with a Strong's Concordance transforms the reader into a full on Hebrew/Greek scholar!
 Quoting: Sir Phydeau




Ok how does this Interlinear Bible help me? Does it make the word more clear or since it comes from the actual way the words were written provide more information.

And Thanks for this.
 Quoting: DOOM-N-GLOOM


Well, an Interlinear bible has the Hebrew or Greek words (with the strong's concordance reference number above it), with a transliteration (how you'd say it) beneath that and the english translation beneath that. Over in the margin, it has the KJV. This allows the reader to translate it as he/she goes. The primary advantage to using a concordance comes down to being able to accurately define each word as well as track down the root words that word came from to help clarify the meaning.

Just as words change in English over time, the same can be said for Hebrew and Greek.

For example: "Oh that's wicked!" today can mean it's very impressive and cool. Where if you read this in a letter written 50 years ago, it would obviously mean "That's evil!".

This is where tracing the root words comes in handy.
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You are correct. Though, in reality the meaning has never changed, just as the meaning behind Christmas and Easter has never changed, it has always been a pagan, sun worship celebration.

What has happened is nothing else but fulfillment of prophecy. "Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!" Isaiah 5:20

That's what the world does today.
The Truth About Thread: The FINAL EVENTS Of Bible Prophecy

"We here are of the conviction that the papacy is the seat of the true and real Antichrist." - Martin Luther (Aug. 18, 1520)

"While God has given ample evidence for faith, He will never remove all excuse for unbelief. All who look for hooks to hang their doubts upon will find them. And those who refuse to accept and obey God's Word until every objection has been removed, and there is no longer an opportunity for doubt, will never come to the light" (The Great Controversy, p. 527).

"Jesus did not come to change the law, but he came to explain it, and that very fact shows that it remains, for there is no need to explain that which is abrogated." - Charles Spurgeon

"Jesuit Adam Weishaupt established the modern version of the Illuminati specifically to be a front organization behind which the Jesuits could hide. After being formally abolished by Pope Clement XIV in 1773, the Jesuits used the Illuminati and other organizations to carry out their operations. Thus, the front organizations would be blamed for the trouble caused by the Jesuits."
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Probably the best thing you can do is find a Parallel Bible. It is a Bible which has two versions side my side, allowing you to easily compare verse for better understanding. This is the kind of Bible that I use.
 Quoting: A Voice In The Wilderness


I'm rather obsessive about translations. I personally prefer to use an Interlinear Bible.

Here is one online so you can see why it's such a powerful tool:

[link to www.scripture4all.org]

This combined with a Strong's Concordance transforms the reader into a full on Hebrew/Greek scholar!
 Quoting: Sir Phydeau




Ok how does this Interlinear Bible help me? Does it make the word more clear or since it comes from the actual way the words were written provide more information.

And Thanks for this.
 Quoting: DOOM-N-GLOOM


Well, an Interlinear bible has the Hebrew or Greek words (with the strong's concordance reference number above it), with a transliteration (how you'd say it) beneath that and the english translation beneath that. Over in the margin, it has the KJV. This allows the reader to translate it as he/she goes. The primary advantage to using a concordance comes down to being able to accurately define each word as well as track down the root words that word came from to help clarify the meaning.

Just as words change in English over time, the same can be said for Hebrew and Greek.

For example: "Oh that's wicked!" today can mean it's very impressive and cool. Where if you read this in a letter written 50 years ago, it would obviously mean "That's evil!".

This is where tracing the root words comes in handy.
 Quoting: Sir Phydeau



Understood ...Thanks.
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I'm rather obsessive about translations. I personally prefer to use an Interlinear Bible.

Here is one online so you can see why it's such a powerful tool:

[link to www.scripture4all.org]

This combined with a Strong's Concordance transforms the reader into a full on Hebrew/Greek scholar!
 Quoting: Sir Phydeau




Ok how does this Interlinear Bible help me? Does it make the word more clear or since it comes from the actual way the words were written provide more information.

And Thanks for this.
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Well, an Interlinear bible has the Hebrew or Greek words (with the strong's concordance reference number above it), with a transliteration (how you'd say it) beneath that and the english translation beneath that. Over in the margin, it has the KJV. This allows the reader to translate it as he/she goes. The primary advantage to using a concordance comes down to being able to accurately define each word as well as track down the root words that word came from to help clarify the meaning.

Just as words change in English over time, the same can be said for Hebrew and Greek.

For example: "Oh that's wicked!" today can mean it's very impressive and cool. Where if you read this in a letter written 50 years ago, it would obviously mean "That's evil!".

This is where tracing the root words comes in handy.
 Quoting: Sir Phydeau


You are correct. Though, in reality the meaning has never changed, just as the meaning behind Christmas and Easter has never changed, it has always been a pagan, sun worship celebration.

What has happened is nothing else but fulfillment of prophecy. "Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!" Isaiah 5:20

That's what the world does today.
 Quoting: A Voice In The Wilderness



Understood as well...Ill start slow and grow from there.


Thank You.
My relationship with death hasnt changed......I am strongly against it.
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just as the meaning behind Christmas and Easter has never changed, it has always been a pagan, sun worship celebration.
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lol ... DON'T get me started on this one. ;)
"When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" — John M. Keynes
"The way to see by [blind] faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Benjamin Franklin
The Self Defining Hebrew System: [link to www.thechronicleproject.org]
Real men keep Torah.
Knighted into the Army of Yahuwah on 10-9-10.

Avinu shebashamayim, yitkadesh shimkha. Tavo malkhutekha ye'aseh r'tzonekha ba'aretz ka'asher na'asah vashamayimTen-lanu haiyom lechem chukeinu. u'selach-lanu et-ashmateinu ka'asher solechim anachnu la'asher ashmu lanu. Ve'al-tevieinu lidei massah, ki im-hatsileinu min-hara. Ki lekha ha-mamlakha vehagevurah veha-tiferet l'olemei olamim. Amen.
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Mal 3:3 And he shall sit as a refiner and purifier of silver: and he shall purify the sons of Levi, and purge them as gold and silver, that they may offer unto the LORD an offering in righteousness.
 Quoting: 1COR15:22


I've always loved this piece.

What so few grasp is what happens during the refinement of silver.

It's melted down. As the impurities are burnt away, the surface becomes like a mirror. Where the refiner can see his own reflection.

It's poetic when you think about it.
"When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" — John M. Keynes
"The way to see by [blind] faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Benjamin Franklin
The Self Defining Hebrew System: [link to www.thechronicleproject.org]
Real men keep Torah.
Knighted into the Army of Yahuwah on 10-9-10.

Avinu shebashamayim, yitkadesh shimkha. Tavo malkhutekha ye'aseh r'tzonekha ba'aretz ka'asher na'asah vashamayimTen-lanu haiyom lechem chukeinu. u'selach-lanu et-ashmateinu ka'asher solechim anachnu la'asher ashmu lanu. Ve'al-tevieinu lidei massah, ki im-hatsileinu min-hara. Ki lekha ha-mamlakha vehagevurah veha-tiferet l'olemei olamim. Amen.
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[link to www.e-sword.net] start by downloading the KJV + with Strongs

This is one of the best study tools...parallel Translations, Hebrew & Greek dictionaries

and you don't need to be on the internet to use it.

Free
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I find "church" today, (and when i was a kid) to feel much like torture.
I grew up Catholic. They pounded the "guilt" thing home pretty well, but I had no understanding of why I was fearful. Come to think of it, I don't think we ever touched upon Revelation, and the urgency to "get right with God". It was passion-less, mindless, stand up/sit down, repeat verbatim, not much biblical understanding stuff.

These days, the modern Christian church services are like attending motivational speaking. They might throw a bible verse or two into the mix. I definitely get the sense it's all prosperity speaking, and what people would like to hear as opposed to what they NEED to hear.
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You are 100% correct. Nearly all 'Christian' churches of today have dried up like a fig tree in the desert. "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge... this is a rebellious people, lying children, children that will not hear the law of the LORD: Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits." Hosea 4:6, Isaiah 30:9,10

Friend, look for a congregation which preaches the most Bible truth. We are instructed not to "forsake the assembling of yourselves together, even more so as ye see the day approaching", but at the same time the Creator does not desire for us to remain in a fallen, corrupt, and dead church.

Find the church which can explain to you clearly Biblical prophecy, both the books of Daniel and the book of Revelation. Remember, that the ministry of John the Baptist, of Jesus, of the Apostles, and of the Reformers ALL began with PROPHECY, both the fulfillment of it and the preaching of it. Prophecy, as it is in Jesus, is to be the foundation of the faith of the small company of faithful believers at the end of time. These are and will be the ones most dearly regarded by God and the most despised and hated by Satan.

Notice Revelation 12:17, "And the dragon was wroth with the woman(Gods church), and went to make war with the remnant of her seed(the few remaining believers at the end of time), those who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ."

What is the Testimony of Jesus Christ? The Bible always explains itself. Revelation 19:10, "Worship God, for the testimony of Jesus Christ is the Spirit of Prophecy." That true faithful remnant will be those who are able to lay out before you the prophetic books with clarity and understanding.

They are few, but they exist. Find them, and you will have found where God wants you to be at this time. hf
 Quoting: A Voice In The Wilderness


THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU FOR POSTING THIS DREAM

HAD A SIMILAR VISION. PRAISES IN THE HEAVENLIES.

The Lord showed me that it is true: God INHABITS the praises of His people.
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just as the meaning behind Christmas and Easter has never changed, it has always been a pagan, sun worship celebration.
 Quoting: A Voice In The Wilderness


lol ... DON'T get me started on this one. ;)
 Quoting: Sir Phydeau


No, no. Don't get ME started on this one! hf

The second worst abomination that God's professed people would be keeping at the end of time according to Ezekiel 8... and my the brothers and sisters of my church have swallowed it hook, line, and sinker.
The Truth About Thread: The FINAL EVENTS Of Bible Prophecy

"We here are of the conviction that the papacy is the seat of the true and real Antichrist." - Martin Luther (Aug. 18, 1520)

"While God has given ample evidence for faith, He will never remove all excuse for unbelief. All who look for hooks to hang their doubts upon will find them. And those who refuse to accept and obey God's Word until every objection has been removed, and there is no longer an opportunity for doubt, will never come to the light" (The Great Controversy, p. 527).

"Jesus did not come to change the law, but he came to explain it, and that very fact shows that it remains, for there is no need to explain that which is abrogated." - Charles Spurgeon

"Jesuit Adam Weishaupt established the modern version of the Illuminati specifically to be a front organization behind which the Jesuits could hide. After being formally abolished by Pope Clement XIV in 1773, the Jesuits used the Illuminati and other organizations to carry out their operations. Thus, the front organizations would be blamed for the trouble caused by the Jesuits."
Bill Hughes (Author of The Secret Terrorists and The Enemy Unmasked)
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THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU FOR POSTING THIS DREAM

HAD A SIMILAR VISION. PRAISES IN THE HEAVENLIES.

The Lord showed me that it is true: God INHABITS the praises of His people.
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Are you referring to the part of the dream I posted from ForMyPeople.org?

If so, I would LOVE to hear/read about what you saw! hf
The Truth About Thread: The FINAL EVENTS Of Bible Prophecy

"We here are of the conviction that the papacy is the seat of the true and real Antichrist." - Martin Luther (Aug. 18, 1520)

"While God has given ample evidence for faith, He will never remove all excuse for unbelief. All who look for hooks to hang their doubts upon will find them. And those who refuse to accept and obey God's Word until every objection has been removed, and there is no longer an opportunity for doubt, will never come to the light" (The Great Controversy, p. 527).

"Jesus did not come to change the law, but he came to explain it, and that very fact shows that it remains, for there is no need to explain that which is abrogated." - Charles Spurgeon

"Jesuit Adam Weishaupt established the modern version of the Illuminati specifically to be a front organization behind which the Jesuits could hide. After being formally abolished by Pope Clement XIV in 1773, the Jesuits used the Illuminati and other organizations to carry out their operations. Thus, the front organizations would be blamed for the trouble caused by the Jesuits."
Bill Hughes (Author of The Secret Terrorists and The Enemy Unmasked)
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false half gospel???...is this the latest way some fundamentalists are getting around the parts of the bible they dont like?
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There is no 'fundamentalists', no 'conservatives', no 'liberals'.

There is only Biblical and unBiblical. The moment one begins to attach man-made labels to himself or his group of believers, he is on the wrong path and the enemy of souls has already deceived him.
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love how you avoided answering the question

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