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samanthasunflower User ID: 5364986 United States 01/08/2012 01:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Both Romney and Newt have, on multiple occasions, endorsed forcing people to buy health insurance. Both have worked towards expanding government control of the healthcare industry. The Federal Reserve is an unconstitutional PRIVATE group that has complete control over our monetary system. They can give money to whoever they want for whatever reason they want. With the executive, judicial, and congressional branches of government having no say in how they do it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3331153 Russia 01/08/2012 01:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | PAUL: "I don't see how we can do well against Obama if we have any candidate that, you know, endorsed, you know, single payer systems and TARP bailouts and don't challenge the Federal Reserve's $15 trillion of injection bailing out their friends." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8461843 THE FACTS: First, there are no fans of government-run, single-payer health insurance in the Republican field, despite Paul's suggestion otherwise Sunday. Newt Gingrich once endorsed the idea of requiring everyone to have health insurance, and Romney introduced a mandate for health coverage as Massachusetts governor. But that's a far cry from a Canadian-style health system that makes government the primary payer of people's medical bills. TARP is the $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief Program that was proposed by President George W. Bush and passed by Congress in 2008 to help rescue imperiled financial institutions. Nearly all of the money has been paid back, with interest. [ For complete coverage of politics and policy, go to Yahoo! Politics ] Paul's slam against the Fed ignores the fact that most of the $15 trillion he is talking about involved loans that were quickly repaid, sometimes the next day. And that's if these Fed transactions can even be considered loans in the conventional sense. When the Fed lends money to banks, it creates the money out of thin air. When the banks pay it back, the money disappears from the system. If a bank borrows $5 billion from the Fed one day, then pays it back the next, and a week later borrows $5 billion more and quickly pays it back, the total would be listed as $10 billion, even though it's just the same money going back and forth and the treasury is in no sense being emptied. That's how a federal report counted a running total of about $15 trillion in emergency Fed loans to domestic banks and their foreign subsidiaries between 2007 and 2010. The actual loan total, once paybacks are accounted for, is estimated at $1.1 trillion. [link to old.news.yahoo.com] Listen -- we all know the Fed is a rip-off criminal organization of the Rothschilds that pays the Queen of England... We know this. So, |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 8471098 United States 01/08/2012 01:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | PAUL: "I don't see how we can do well against Obama if we have any candidate that, you know, endorsed, you know, single payer systems and TARP bailouts and don't challenge the Federal Reserve's $15 trillion of injection bailing out their friends." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8461843 THE FACTS: First, there are no fans of government-run, single-payer health insurance in the Republican field, despite Paul's suggestion otherwise Sunday. Newt Gingrich once endorsed the idea of requiring everyone to have health insurance, and Romney introduced a mandate for health coverage as Massachusetts governor. But that's a far cry from a Canadian-style health system that makes government the primary payer of people's medical bills. TARP is the $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief Program that was proposed by President George W. Bush and passed by Congress in 2008 to help rescue imperiled financial institutions. Nearly all of the money has been paid back, with interest. [ For complete coverage of politics and policy, go to Yahoo! Politics ] Paul's slam against the Fed ignores the fact that most of the $15 trillion he is talking about involved loans that were quickly repaid, sometimes the next day. And that's if these Fed transactions can even be considered loans in the conventional sense. When the Fed lends money to banks, it creates the money out of thin air. When the banks pay it back, the money disappears from the system. If a bank borrows $5 billion from the Fed one day, then pays it back the next, and a week later borrows $5 billion more and quickly pays it back, the total would be listed as $10 billion, even though it's just the same money going back and forth and the treasury is in no sense being emptied. That's how a federal report counted a running total of about $15 trillion in emergency Fed loans to domestic banks and their foreign subsidiaries between 2007 and 2010. The actual loan total, once paybacks are accounted for, is estimated at $1.1 trillion. [link to old.news.yahoo.com] obama is that you??? |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 8461843 United States 01/08/2012 01:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | PAUL: "I don't see how we can do well against Obama if we have any candidate that, you know, endorsed, you know, single payer systems and TARP bailouts and don't challenge the Federal Reserve's $15 trillion of injection bailing out their friends." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8461843 THE FACTS: First, there are no fans of government-run, single-payer health insurance in the Republican field, despite Paul's suggestion otherwise Sunday. Newt Gingrich once endorsed the idea of requiring everyone to have health insurance, and Romney introduced a mandate for health coverage as Massachusetts governor. But that's a far cry from a Canadian-style health system that makes government the primary payer of people's medical bills. TARP is the $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief Program that was proposed by President George W. Bush and passed by Congress in 2008 to help rescue imperiled financial institutions. Nearly all of the money has been paid back, with interest. [ For complete coverage of politics and policy, go to Yahoo! Politics ] Paul's slam against the Fed ignores the fact that most of the $15 trillion he is talking about involved loans that were quickly repaid, sometimes the next day. And that's if these Fed transactions can even be considered loans in the conventional sense. When the Fed lends money to banks, it creates the money out of thin air. When the banks pay it back, the money disappears from the system. If a bank borrows $5 billion from the Fed one day, then pays it back the next, and a week later borrows $5 billion more and quickly pays it back, the total would be listed as $10 billion, even though it's just the same money going back and forth and the treasury is in no sense being emptied. That's how a federal report counted a running total of about $15 trillion in emergency Fed loans to domestic banks and their foreign subsidiaries between 2007 and 2010. The actual loan total, once paybacks are accounted for, is estimated at $1.1 trillion. [link to old.news.yahoo.com] Listen -- we all know the Fed is a rip-off criminal organization of the Rothschilds that pays the Queen of England... We know this. So, Ti pu strau u gotchie. |
The Pale Rider User ID: 7415466 United States 01/08/2012 01:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | PAUL: "I don't see how we can do well against Obama if we have any candidate that, you know, endorsed, you know, single payer systems and TARP bailouts and don't challenge the Federal Reserve's $15 trillion of injection bailing out their friends." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8461843 THE FACTS: First, there are no fans of government-run, single-payer health insurance in the Republican field, despite Paul's suggestion otherwise Sunday. Newt Gingrich once endorsed the idea of requiring everyone to have health insurance, and Romney introduced a mandate for health coverage as Massachusetts governor. But that's a far cry from a Canadian-style health system that makes government the primary payer of people's medical bills. TARP is the $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief Program that was proposed by President George W. Bush and passed by Congress in 2008 to help rescue imperiled financial institutions. Nearly all of the money has been paid back, with interest. [ For complete coverage of politics and policy, go to Yahoo! Politics ] Paul's slam against the Fed ignores the fact that most of the $15 trillion he is talking about involved loans that were quickly repaid, sometimes the next day. And that's if these Fed transactions can even be considered loans in the conventional sense. When the Fed lends money to banks, it creates the money out of thin air. When the banks pay it back, the money disappears from the system. If a bank borrows $5 billion from the Fed one day, then pays it back the next, and a week later borrows $5 billion more and quickly pays it back, the total would be listed as $10 billion, even though it's just the same money going back and forth and the treasury is in no sense being emptied. That's how a federal report counted a running total of about $15 trillion in emergency Fed loans to domestic banks and their foreign subsidiaries between 2007 and 2010. The actual loan total, once paybacks are accounted for, is estimated at $1.1 trillion. [link to old.news.yahoo.com] I would love to see one of these anti Ron Paul posts come from someone that is not an anonymous coward. NO BALLS |
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IS-BE User ID: 6788562 United States 01/08/2012 01:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | PAUL: "I don't see how we can do well against Obama if we have any candidate that, you know, endorsed, you know, single payer systems and TARP bailouts and don't challenge the Federal Reserve's $15 trillion of injection bailing out their friends." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8461843 THE FACTS: First, there are no fans of government-run, single-payer health insurance in the Republican field, despite Paul's suggestion otherwise Sunday. Newt Gingrich once endorsed the idea of requiring everyone to have health insurance, and Romney introduced a mandate for health coverage as Massachusetts governor. But that's a far cry from a Canadian-style health system that makes government the primary payer of people's medical bills. TARP is the $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief Program that was proposed by President George W. Bush and passed by Congress in 2008 to help rescue imperiled financial institutions. Nearly all of the money has been paid back, with interest. [ For complete coverage of politics and policy, go to Yahoo! Politics ] Paul's slam against the Fed ignores the fact that most of the $15 trillion he is talking about involved loans that were quickly repaid, sometimes the next day. And that's if these Fed transactions can even be considered loans in the conventional sense. When the Fed lends money to banks, it creates the money out of thin air. When the banks pay it back, the money disappears from the system. If a bank borrows $5 billion from the Fed one day, then pays it back the next, and a week later borrows $5 billion more and quickly pays it back, the total would be listed as $10 billion, even though it's just the same money going back and forth and the treasury is in no sense being emptied. That's how a federal report counted a running total of about $15 trillion in emergency Fed loans to domestic banks and their foreign subsidiaries between 2007 and 2010. The actual loan total, once paybacks are accounted for, is estimated at $1.1 trillion. [link to old.news.yahoo.com] I would love to see one of these anti Ron Paul posts come from someone that is not an anonymous coward. NO BALLS You are joking, right? Thread: Ron Paul sucked in the debate Thread: Hurry! somebody put more starch in RP's collar Thread: why is it Paul supporters are just that Thread: Paul people are thugs, they have everyone scared to post anything anti |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 8394831 United States 01/08/2012 01:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We are all going to see who Ron Paul REALLY is. I can't wait until the MSM slams Paul for his recist newsletters that he made millions on. Ron Paul is just another Freemason bigot. HOw about your Master Obama??? How about his RACIST preacher of 20 years (oh that's right, he didn't hear any of the racist sermons) What a crock of crap! But Ron Paul is racist ...okay, now what? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 8461843 United States 01/08/2012 01:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | PAUL: "I don't see how we can do well against Obama if we have any candidate that, you know, endorsed, you know, single payer systems and TARP bailouts and don't challenge the Federal Reserve's $15 trillion of injection bailing out their friends." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8461843 THE FACTS: First, there are no fans of government-run, single-payer health insurance in the Republican field, despite Paul's suggestion otherwise Sunday. Newt Gingrich once endorsed the idea of requiring everyone to have health insurance, and Romney introduced a mandate for health coverage as Massachusetts governor. But that's a far cry from a Canadian-style health system that makes government the primary payer of people's medical bills. TARP is the $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief Program that was proposed by President George W. Bush and passed by Congress in 2008 to help rescue imperiled financial institutions. Nearly all of the money has been paid back, with interest. [ For complete coverage of politics and policy, go to Yahoo! Politics ] Paul's slam against the Fed ignores the fact that most of the $15 trillion he is talking about involved loans that were quickly repaid, sometimes the next day. And that's if these Fed transactions can even be considered loans in the conventional sense. When the Fed lends money to banks, it creates the money out of thin air. When the banks pay it back, the money disappears from the system. If a bank borrows $5 billion from the Fed one day, then pays it back the next, and a week later borrows $5 billion more and quickly pays it back, the total would be listed as $10 billion, even though it's just the same money going back and forth and the treasury is in no sense being emptied. That's how a federal report counted a running total of about $15 trillion in emergency Fed loans to domestic banks and their foreign subsidiaries between 2007 and 2010. The actual loan total, once paybacks are accounted for, is estimated at $1.1 trillion. [link to old.news.yahoo.com] I would love to see one of these anti Ron Paul posts come from someone that is not an anonymous coward. NO BALLS You are joking, right? Thread: Ron Paul sucked in the debate Thread: Hurry! somebody put more starch in RP's collar Thread: why is it Paul supporters are just that Thread: Paul people are thugs, they have everyone scared to post anything anti Thanks. Palerider is so fucking obsessed with wacko Ron Paul that he loses focus on everything around him just to kneel down and suck Ron Paul's dick. This is what happens when you can't think for yourself; you become a Paul Hobbit. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 8461843 United States 01/08/2012 01:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We are all going to see who Ron Paul REALLY is. I can't wait until the MSM slams Paul for his recist newsletters that he made millions on. Ron Paul is just another Freemason bigot. HOw about your Master Obama??? How about his RACIST preacher of 20 years (oh that's right, he didn't hear any of the racist sermons) What a crock of crap! But Ron Paul is racist ...okay, now what? We ain't talking about Obama. Stick to the subject or does that hurt? Typical Paultard response. If you can't refute my statements, you try to change the subject. Pathetic. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8404587 France 01/08/2012 01:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | PAUL: "I don't see how we can do well against Obama if we have any candidate that, you know, endorsed, you know, single payer systems and TARP bailouts and don't challenge the Federal Reserve's $15 trillion of injection bailing out their friends." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8461843 THE FACTS: First, there are no fans of government-run, single-payer health insurance in the Republican field, despite Paul's suggestion otherwise Sunday. Newt Gingrich once endorsed the idea of requiring everyone to have health insurance, and Romney introduced a mandate for health coverage as Massachusetts governor. But that's a far cry from a Canadian-style health system that makes government the primary payer of people's medical bills. TARP is the $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief Program that was proposed by President George W. Bush and passed by Congress in 2008 to help rescue imperiled financial institutions. Nearly all of the money has been paid back, with interest. [ For complete coverage of politics and policy, go to Yahoo! Politics ] Paul's slam against the Fed ignores the fact that most of the $15 trillion he is talking about involved loans that were quickly repaid, sometimes the next day. And that's if these Fed transactions can even be considered loans in the conventional sense. When the Fed lends money to banks, it creates the money out of thin air. When the banks pay it back, the money disappears from the system. If a bank borrows $5 billion from the Fed one day, then pays it back the next, and a week later borrows $5 billion more and quickly pays it back, the total would be listed as $10 billion, even though it's just the same money going back and forth and the treasury is in no sense being emptied. That's how a federal report counted a running total of about $15 trillion in emergency Fed loans to domestic banks and their foreign subsidiaries between 2007 and 2010. The actual loan total, once paybacks are accounted for, is estimated at $1.1 trillion. [link to old.news.yahoo.com] I would love to see one of these anti Ron Paul posts come from someone that is not an anonymous coward. NO BALLS so that is your real name and picture? |
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IS-BE User ID: 6788562 United States 01/08/2012 01:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That guy with the Mongo avatar is your big example? His IQ can't be much higher then his shoe size. Quoting: The Pale Rider Thread: Ron Paul mob mentality supporters on this forum are very gullible and SHOULD know better than... There are many more. Last Edited by IS-BE on 01/08/2012 01:38 PM |
Rabid_Wolf User ID: 8222026 United States 01/08/2012 01:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We are all going to see who Ron Paul REALLY is. I can't wait until the MSM slams Paul for his recist newsletters that he made millions on. Ron Paul is just another Freemason bigot. With 35 years of a public voting record to look back upon, comments from a recent debate is the best you can come up with to denounce Ron Paul as a contender? I don't give 2 shits in a shiny bucket what he says at debates. I care about how he votes and conducts himself on Capitol Hill. If you want to sway people from voting for Ron Paul, then show them where he voted against the constitutional principles he claims to hold dear. I have not found any such thing yet, so he is still under consideration for my vote. Last Edited by Rabid Wolf on 01/08/2012 01:38 PM |
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HYPERTlGER User ID: 1311260 Canada 01/08/2012 01:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dr. Ron Paul is against any universal health care scheme because within such a system...Doctors have to take a pay cut. In the other systams outside the USA...the ywere implemented decades ago...long before the pricing power that US doctors currently are addicted to enjoy. The thought that doctors will actually have to work for a living as opposed to taking the sick and dying to the cleaners is what really has Ron and Randal crapping their pants. Ron and Randal's position is that if you don't have Gold to pay for their enslavement to save your life...then die...thanks for showing up to planet Earth. Of course they would never admit to this...until their gold is money systam is set up...then they will say...sorry...It's the rules of the game... But other than that weakness Ron Paul is a pretty nice guy. HYPERTlGER |
Guarnere09 User ID: 3709274 United States 01/08/2012 01:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lol repaid?? With what ? Our gov prints money sends out trillons and it's paid back in like a day? Ya right these idiots who are journalist or whatever are so stupid and are completely ruieng my future. And it's paid back in american money so it's a re volving debt door. Unless we understand the monetary system we will never get any where period. It's a scam. The gov can do it but not us lol please the collapse is coming, war , war , war, new world order. |