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But, Mitt Romney was born in America, right? He was born on March 12, 1947 in Detroit, Michigan. That is not in dispute. But, what is in dispute is his father's citizenship at the time Willard was born with the exact same situation with Obama/Soetoro.

While I don't entirely trust Wikipedia, they at least get part of it right regarding Mitt Romney's father: "Romney was born to American parents in the Mormon Colonies in Mexico; events during the Mexican Revolution forced his family to move back to the United States when he was a child."

Mr. George W. Romney, was elected Governor of Michigan. Because there was talk George W. might run for the presidency, his citizenship eligibility came into question and because it extends to the child at the time of birth, there is now question regarding Willard (Mitt) Romney:

Mitt Romney's, father George W. Romney, Not A Natural Born Citizen of the United States of America, and was NOT, eligible for the Office of President, by Pinckney G. McElwee of D.C. Bar.)

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Nothing like a monkey wrench throned into the cog..

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Not another one. Here we go again.
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Not another one. Here we go again.
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I wonder If Orly is up to taking on this one? Ha!
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Willard??

How bizarre. The whole thing ... "George W.", "Willard", and the whole eligibility question.

Quoting from a recent White House gala, "curiouser and curiouser"...
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Mr. George W. Romney, was elected Governor of Michigan. Because there was talk George W. might run for the presidency, his citizenship eligibility came into question and because it extends to the child at the time of birth, there is now question regarding Willard (Mitt) Romney:


Mitt Romney's, father George W. Romney, Not A Natural Born Citizen of the United States of America, and was NOT, eligible for the Office of President, by Pinckney G. McElwee of D.C. Bar.)


Congressional Record (House) June 14, 1967


"I find no proper legal or historical basis on which to conclude that a person born outside of the United States could ever be eligible to occupy the Office of the President of the United States. In other words, In my opinion, Mr. George Romney of Michigan Is Ineligible to become President of the United States because he was born In Mexico and is, therefore, not a natural-born citizen as required by the United States Constitution."


Thus, we have the same situation as with Obama/Soetoro: A father born in a foreign country who never became a U.S. citizen. Several people have been doing some serious research on this:

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Maybe Congress will repeal born citizenship as a presidential requirement and Arnie will become president one day after all.

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Willard??

How bizarre. The whole thing ... "George W.", "Willard", and the whole eligibility question.

Quoting from a recent White House gala, "curiouser and curiouser"...
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I have to commend you on your thread last night GG. It was inspiring. Thanks..
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Nice one, Thanks
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Same for Rubio of Florida.
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No issue...George Romney was a naturalized citizen at the time...very different than Obama who's father was a foriegn national and wasn't then or ever was a US citizen.

Obama is NOT a "Natural Born" citizen btw....but the SCOTUS will never see a case before he's gone this Nov.
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Bye bye Mitty such a pity...


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No issue...George Romney was a naturalized citizen at the time...very different than Obama who's father was a foriegn national and wasn't then or ever was a US citizen.

Obama is NOT a "Natural Born" citizen btw....but the SCOTUS will never see a case before he's gone this Nov.
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I would like to hear what Edwin Vieira, would say on this. Edwin is a real constitutional scholar.
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Willard??

How bizarre. The whole thing ... "George W.", "Willard", and the whole eligibility question.

Quoting from a recent White House gala, "curiouser and curiouser"...
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I have to commend you on your thread last night GG. It was inspiring. Thanks..
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Aw, thank you, NS - I think Ron Paul has inspired many of us who would have otherwise given up. We may not win the election, but if we keep focused, we will eventually win :)
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The only mormon colonie in Mexico would be an FLDS compound which really makes you wonder.
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it only matters where you're born not where your parents born, anything else is made up meaningless bullshit.
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2 naturalized citizens can give birth to a natural born citizen.
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No issue...George Romney was a naturalized citizen at the time...very different than Obama who's father was a foriegn national and wasn't then or ever was a US citizen.

Obama is NOT a "Natural Born" citizen btw....but the SCOTUS will never see a case before he's gone this Nov.
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Do you have a clue?

There is a HUGE difference between "naturalized citizen" versus "natural-born citizen", Bucko.
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No issue...George Romney was a naturalized citizen at the time...very different than Obama who's father was a foriegn national and wasn't then or ever was a US citizen.

Obama is NOT a "Natural Born" citizen btw....but the SCOTUS will never see a case before he's gone this Nov.
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Do you have a clue?

There is a HUGE difference between "naturalized citizen" versus "natural-born citizen", Bucko.
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Ah, yes, but it is you, Russia Bucko, who cannot read.

Sorry to the other Bucko from America.
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While Romney was born in Mexico, he was still considered a viable and legal candidate for United States president. His Mormon grandfather and his three wives had fled to Mexico in 1886, but none of them ever relinquished U.S. citizenship. While the Constitution requires that a president must be a natural-born citizen, the first Congress of the United States in 1790 passed legislation stating: "The children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond the sea, or outside the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural-born citizens of the United States." Romney and his family fled Mexico in 1912 prior to the Mexican Revolution. However, the Naturalization Act of 1795 repealed the Act of 1790[citation needed] and removed the language explicitly stating that the children of U.S. citizens are natural-born citizens. As such, it is not clear that Romney was actually eligible for the office of president

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Barry was a fat little fucker !
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Now Barry is a skinny little fucker !
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Any candidate, Republican, Democrat, Green Party, Independent Party, Libertarian Party, Constitution Party - you name it - cannot expect to put a candidate on the ballot for president if that candidate isn't eligible under the Constitution. It doesn't matter if that candidate is a person of color, Caucasian, Asian or Hispanic. The only thing that matters for ballot qualification is constitutional eligibility. Will we see Romney held to the same standards as the effort to expose Soetoro for the fraud and liar he is?
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But, Mitt Romney was born in America, right? He was born on March 12, 1947 in Detroit, Michigan. That is not in dispute. But, what is in dispute is his father's citizenship at the time Willard was born with the exact same situation with Obama/Soetoro.

While I don't entirely trust Wikipedia, they at least get part of it right regarding Mitt Romney's father: "Romney was born to American parents in the Mormon Colonies in Mexico; events during the Mexican Revolution forced his family to move back to the United States when he was a child."

Mr. George W. Romney, was elected Governor of Michigan. Because there was talk George W. might run for the presidency, his citizenship eligibility came into question and because it extends to the child at the time of birth, there is now question regarding Willard (Mitt) Romney:

Mitt Romney's, father George W. Romney, Not A Natural Born Citizen of the United States of America, and was NOT, eligible for the Office of President, by Pinckney G. McElwee of D.C. Bar.)

Read more: [link to www.rense.com]
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Don't understand your point. George Romney is not running for president, Mitt is. Mitt was born in the US so he is eligible.

No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

Then there is this:

The weight of legal and historical authority indicates that the term natural born citizen would mean a person who is entitled to U.S. citizenship by birth or at birth, either by being born in the United States and under its jurisdiction, even those born to alien parents; by being born abroad to U.S. citizen-parents; or by being born in other situations meeting legal requirements for U.S. citizenship at birth.


Are you aware John McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone and McCain never released his birth certificate.
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But, Mitt Romney was born in America, right? He was born on March 12, 1947 in Detroit, Michigan. That is not in dispute. But, what is in dispute is his father's citizenship at the time Willard was born with the exact same situation with Obama/Soetoro.

While I don't entirely trust Wikipedia, they at least get part of it right regarding Mitt Romney's father: "Romney was born to American parents in the Mormon Colonies in Mexico; events during the Mexican Revolution forced his family to move back to the United States when he was a child."

Mr. George W. Romney, was elected Governor of Michigan. Because there was talk George W. might run for the presidency, his citizenship eligibility came into question and because it extends to the child at the time of birth, there is now question regarding Willard (Mitt) Romney:

Mitt Romney's, father George W. Romney, Not A Natural Born Citizen of the United States of America, and was NOT, eligible for the Office of President, by Pinckney G. McElwee of D.C. Bar.)

Read more: [link to www.rense.com]
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Don't understand your point. George Romney is not running for president, Mitt is. Mitt was born in the US so he is eligible.

No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

Then there is this:

The weight of legal and historical authority indicates that the term natural born citizen would mean a person who is entitled to U.S. citizenship by birth or at birth, either by being born in the United States and under its jurisdiction, even those born to alien parents; by being born abroad to U.S. citizen-parents; or by being born in other situations meeting legal requirements for U.S. citizenship at birth.


Are you aware John McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone and McCain never released his birth certificate.
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yeah you can't reason with birthtards dude they genuinely believe that it's possible for someone born on US soil to not be eligible to be president.
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if he was born on us soil he is a us born citizen

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